1 2017-12-17 03:04:59	0|CryptoMann|Welkomen
 2 2017-12-17 07:02:32	0|bitcoin-git|[13bitcoin] 15comradekingu opened pull request #11920: python → Python (06master...06patch-1) 02https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11920
 3 2017-12-17 07:28:17	0|cluelessperson|bitcoin.org 's downloads are slow as balls
 4 2017-12-17 07:28:18	0|cluelessperson|why is that?
 5 2017-12-17 07:36:05	0|jonasschnelli|cluelessperson: use http://bitcoincore.org/bin/?
 6 2017-12-17 07:39:24	0|cluelessperson|jonasschnelli: thanks, but we should fix the first things users see
 7 2017-12-17 07:44:01	0|jonasschnelli|Download from http://bitcoin.org/ seems pretty fast on my end
 8 2017-12-17 07:44:13	0|cluelessperson|bitcoin.org is kinda infuriating
 9 2017-12-17 07:44:20	0|cluelessperson|needs a "download" link on the homepage
10 2017-12-17 07:45:01	0|sipa|well bitcoin.org is not primarily about bitcoin core
11 2017-12-17 08:02:58	0|cluelessperson|I guess
12 2017-12-17 08:03:09	0|cluelessperson|sipa: I would still make it better
13 2017-12-17 08:03:20	0|cluelessperson|"choose your wallet" should be first thing
14 2017-12-17 08:04:31	0|sipa|cluelessperson: i'm sure people will appreciate help on https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org
15 2017-12-17 08:23:14	0|cluelessperson|jesus christ
16 2017-12-17 08:23:45	0|cluelessperson|I'm looking at the Bitcoin Core UI and it needs serious revamping
17 2017-12-17 08:35:35	0|cluelessperson|Who made this UI?  I have recommendations
18 2017-12-17 08:36:25	0|Varunram|cluelessperson: bitcoin-qt?
19 2017-12-17 08:36:46	0|cluelessperson|yeah
20 2017-12-17 08:38:26	0|cluelessperson|The first thing on the receiving tab should be "Receiving Address: <ADDRESS>" "NEW"
21 2017-12-17 08:38:52	0|cluelessperson|This should be DUMB simple for braindead laymen to use, dead and center
22 2017-12-17 08:46:16	0|fanquake|cluelessperson open a pull request with your recommended changes.
23 2017-12-17 08:47:32	0|cluelessperson|I'm sorry if I'm being insulting
24 2017-12-17 08:47:36	0|cluelessperson|fanquake: I don't know C++
25 2017-12-17 08:47:42	0|fanquake|There's no doubt the GUI could be more user-friendly, but there's a lack of people willing/able to do the work.
26 2017-12-17 08:48:23	0|fanquake|cluelessperson If you can't contribute code, open an issue with recommendations, mockups/screenshots etc.
27 2017-12-17 08:48:47	0|fanquake|I think there might even be a few open with new design ideas.
28 2017-12-17 08:52:25	0|cluelessperson|fanquake: I'm putting togeether design mockups
29 2017-12-17 09:14:50	0|cluelessperson|fanquake: here's what I'm going for
30 2017-12-17 09:14:53	0|cluelessperson|https://i.imgur.com/0vJ5a3d.png
31 2017-12-17 09:15:39	0|sipa|cluelessperson: i don't think an address should be shown until you request one
32 2017-12-17 09:15:45	0|cluelessperson|sipa: why?
33 2017-12-17 09:15:48	0|sipa|it's very hard to prevent reuse otherwise
34 2017-12-17 09:16:14	0|cluelessperson|sipa: Have core generate a new address when it detects a transaction come through
35 2017-12-17 09:16:33	0|sipa|cluelessperson: that's what we used to do. it makes people freak out their address changed
36 2017-12-17 09:16:35	0|cluelessperson|sipa: Or, just have it start out blank, and it won't show you one until you ask for it. :)
37 2017-12-17 09:17:28	0|sipa|still shouldn't show it afterwards anymore
38 2017-12-17 09:18:04	0|sipa|the whole "this is your address" causes more problems than understanding
39 2017-12-17 09:18:10	0|cluelessperson|sipa: then I'll add the subtext, "old addresses are stored in history" and you make them show up in the transactions/history tab
40 2017-12-17 09:18:26	0|sipa|an address is something that is per requested paymemt
41 2017-12-17 09:18:35	0|sipa|not something "belonging" to you
42 2017-12-17 09:20:18	0|cluelessperson|sipa: What?
43 2017-12-17 09:20:24	0|cluelessperson|of course addresses belond to you
44 2017-12-17 09:20:31	0|sipa|yes, of course they do
45 2017-12-17 09:20:40	0|sipa|but i mean people shouldn't see them as such
46 2017-12-17 09:20:55	0|sipa|they should see it as an invoice number
47 2017-12-17 09:21:01	0|sipa|more than as an account number
48 2017-12-17 09:21:19	0|cluelessperson|sipa: Sure, you definitely want to make it easy as hell to use, just toss out a QR code to scan, but you cannot hide it when people want it
49 2017-12-17 09:21:32	0|cluelessperson|it's also currently a fundamental of how people understand bitcoin to work.
50 2017-12-17 09:22:20	0|sipa|cluelessperson: i don't care about easy as hell
51 2017-12-17 09:22:28	0|sipa|if it results in lost funds later
52 2017-12-17 09:24:51	0|cluelessperson|sipa: https://i.imgur.com/5L7DLat.png
53 2017-12-17 09:25:04	0|cluelessperson|sipa: That's a good resolve to have, you're right, so let's do both. :)
54 2017-12-17 09:25:17	0|cluelessperson|Easy as hell AND No losing of funds.
55 2017-12-17 09:25:53	0|sipa|i dislike "your current receiving address" :)
56 2017-12-17 09:26:13	0|sipa|that sounds like ot's still sometging designed to last for a period of timr
57 2017-12-17 09:26:53	0|cluelessperson|sipa: That's just verbiage, I'm absolutely open to changing that and the layout.   My mock up is to demonstrate the fundamental requirements that should be on the receiving tab, and the organization that would make sense "no questions asked" to all users.
58 2017-12-17 09:27:20	0|sipa|ok
59 2017-12-17 09:27:22	0|sipa|sure
60 2017-12-17 09:27:48	0|cluelessperson|sipa: I agree with you, what would you like to rename the "current receiving addrss" assuming I myself try to patch together a ... pull request
61 2017-12-17 09:30:56	0|cluelessperson|sipa: Thanks for your input, you are absolutely right
62 2017-12-17 09:31:02	0|cluelessperson|I'll put more thought into how to handle it as well
63 2017-12-17 11:23:52	0|bitcoin-git|[13bitcoin] 15laanwj pushed 11 new commits to 060.15: 02https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a69cc077d946...2559a19e6fdb
64 2017-12-17 11:23:53	0|bitcoin-git|13bitcoin/060.15 146372a75 15Jonas Schnelli: [Wallet] always show help-line of wallet encryption calls...
65 2017-12-17 11:23:53	0|bitcoin-git|13bitcoin/060.15 147026845 15Russell Yanofsky: Fix uninitialized URI in batch RPC requests...
66 2017-12-17 11:23:54	0|bitcoin-git|13bitcoin/060.15 14305f768 15Russell Yanofsky: Limit AuthServiceProxyWrapper.__getattr__ wrapping...
67 2017-12-17 11:41:33	0|bitcoin-git|[13bitcoin] 15canselcik opened pull request #11921: Fixing env variables/arguments in OpenBSD build instructions (06master...06master) 02https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11921
68 2017-12-17 11:53:00	0|_destin243|07,13â–„05,07â–„10,10â–„07,12â–„04,13â–„03,02â–„13,02â–„10,05â–„12,06â–„08,08â–„10,11â–„08,07â–„09,12â–„08 HAPPY NIGGER DAY!! PLEASE SAY HI TO ALL THE DUMB NIGGERS IN #FREENODE...quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697dhyyhu: TheV01d dlb76 Seven_ eck fanquake asoltys tripleslash Dyaheon ryan-c chjj sipa lifeofguenter booyah Emcy gaf_ justanotheruser whphhg stevenroose twill zxzzt gribble ghost43 Arokh schnerchi owo
69 2017-12-17 11:53:00	0|_destin243|08,08â–„11,09â–„05,07â–„02,07â–„08,11â–„07,06â–„03,09â–„09,12â–„06,04â–„03,02â–„06,08â–„05,12â–„12,08â–„12,10â–„03,08â–„03 HAPPY NIGGER DAY!! PLEASE SAY HI TO ALL THE DUMB NIGGERS IN #FREENODE...quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697lukcelkfu: c40d9b0753a91f40 Ge0rges victorSN sturles lrvick xHire ryan-c achow101 commavir michagogo pierre_rochard twill unholymachine zxzzt justanotheruser Cory cryptapus peterto
70 2017-12-17 11:53:00	0|_destin243|08,10â–„04,05â–„07,05â–„06,08â–„09,03â–„12,12â–„10,11â–„07,05â–„06,03â–„02,13â–„11,07â–„10,06â–„06,07â–„13,03â–„02 HAPPY NIGGER DAY!! PLEASE SAY HI TO ALL THE DUMB NIGGERS IN #FREENODE...quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697ogwsnbju: twill booyah StopAndDecrypt Lightsword Giszmo dcousens LeMiner2 arubi_ AaronvanW Seven_ roadcrap andytoshi vicenteH puff Emcy ghost43 chjj meshcollider d9b4bef9 quantbot PaulCapest
71 2017-12-17 11:54:25	0|dlb76|+kb
72 2017-12-17 15:53:39	0|bitcoin-git|[13bitcoin] 15JavadSM closed pull request #11895: Moving to python3 (06master...06master) 02https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11895
73 2017-12-17 16:22:43	0|bitcoin-git|[13bitcoin] 15PierreRochard opened pull request #11923: Wallet : remove unused fNoncriticalErrors variable from CWalletDB::FindWalletTx (06master...062017-12-17-FindWalletTx) 02https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11923
74 2017-12-17 16:34:20	0|adminj|cluelessperson it can be helpful to draw proposed design changes on top of  an existing screenshot, as it makes it easier to understand the relative change. Your last sketch looks completely different from the current look and feel. As much as I'd love a complete revamp, smaller incremental improvements are more likely to actually happen.
75 2017-12-17 16:34:45	0|cluelessperson|adminj: that's a good suggestion
76 2017-12-17 16:38:05	0|sturles|I have been education my users for a while to use segwit compatible wallets.  The result is that now most of my outgoing transactions are to bc1.. and 3.. type addresses, with the change output being the only one to and1...
77 2017-12-17 16:38:11	0|sturles|Eoh.
78 2017-12-17 16:38:20	0|sturles|to an 1... address.
79 2017-12-17 16:38:26	0|sturles|This makes it very easy to single out.
80 2017-12-17 16:38:46	0|wumpus|sturles: what wallet are you using?
81 2017-12-17 16:38:50	0|sturles|Bitcoin Core.
82 2017-12-17 16:39:02	0|wumpus|sturles: with #11403?
83 2017-12-17 16:39:08	0|gribble|https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11403 | SegWit wallet support by sipa · Pull Request #11403 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
84 2017-12-17 16:39:23	0|provoostenator|(setting up ZNC is a pain...)
85 2017-12-17 16:39:48	0|wumpus|if so, you can change the changetype with -changetype
86 2017-12-17 16:40:51	0|sturles|Ah, thanks!  Don't know why I haven't found this one before.
87 2017-12-17 16:41:16	0|sturles|Is it production ready?
88 2017-12-17 16:41:55	0|wumpus|definitely not, it needs testing
89 2017-12-17 16:42:03	0|sturles|Hmm. :-/
90 2017-12-17 16:42:08	0|wumpus|and review and all the things unmerged PR need
91 2017-12-17 16:42:26	0|sturles|I don't test much, but when I do I do it in production. :-)
92 2017-12-17 19:21:55	0|jonasschnelli|My nighly gitian builds for linux do fail since 1st of december... could be a local issue... but more likely a build thing
93 2017-12-17 19:22:06	0|jonasschnelli|https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/builds/407/build_linux.log
94 2017-12-17 23:48:01	0|adam_|hey guys
95 2017-12-17 23:48:15	0|adam_|does anyone still communicate on herE?
96 2017-12-17 23:48:56	0|asdfasdf|I'm here for the first time. I'm just wondering how this works