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  28 2011-08-20 00:16:41 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * rf062765c94ac cgminer/ (Makefile.am README configure.ac): Explicitly link in ws2_32 on the windows build and update README file on how to compile successfully on windows.
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  46 2011-08-20 00:50:05 <jjjrmy> Hey
  47 2011-08-20 00:50:55 <cjdelisle> hai
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  49 2011-08-20 00:55:15 <jjjrmy> I'm working on BTC Android app
  50 2011-08-20 00:56:20 <cjdelisle> nice
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  54 2011-08-20 00:58:52 <cjdelisle> so it woll read qrcodes?
  55 2011-08-20 00:59:09 <jjjrmy> well, this is for my site, so no
  56 2011-08-20 00:59:18 <cjdelisle> ahh
  57 2011-08-20 01:00:31 <Nicksasa> hmm, how is an genesis block created ?
  58 2011-08-20 01:00:39 <Nicksasa> couldn't really find that on the wiki
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  61 2011-08-20 01:07:45 <cjdelisle> Nicksasa: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24209.0 <-- sacarlson has instructions for making a new genesis block but I can't find them right now, route around in that stuff and you'll probably run in to them.
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  63 2011-08-20 01:08:04 <Nicksasa> thanks
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  70 2011-08-20 01:27:54 <CIA-101> DiabloMiner: Patrick McFarland master * r29cec09 / (2 files in 2 dirs):
  71 2011-08-20 01:27:54 <CIA-101> DiabloMiner: Increase speed 1.3% on SDK 2.1 and 0.2% on SDK 2.5, use Deque instead of
  72 2011-08-20 01:27:54 <CIA-101> DiabloMiner: AtomicReference for incoming new work - http://bit.ly/qn2lcX
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  80 2011-08-20 01:51:59 <diki> how fast is sipa's show wallet patch with the import priv key rpc command compared to pywallet's import privkey?
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  83 2011-08-20 02:02:05 <upb> 3 orders of magnitude faster
  84 2011-08-20 02:02:24 <upb> but the space complexity is O(n^n)
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  86 2011-08-20 02:06:54 <CIA-101> poolserverj: shadders * b543d0f5f885 r28 / (9 files in 4 dirs):
  87 2011-08-20 02:06:54 <CIA-101> poolserverj: - fix: cache size set to 1/2 maxCacheSize due to partially implement dynamic cache sizing
  88 2011-08-20 02:06:54 <CIA-101> poolserverj: - fix: shares accepted below difficult due to f***ing endian issues setting difficulty target. (thanks luke-jr for the help)
  89 2011-08-20 02:06:54 <CIA-101> poolserverj: - fix: duplicate work checks not working properly due to race conditions. Moved atomic duplicate check/update operations into synchronized block.
  90 2011-08-20 02:06:54 <CIA-101> poolserverj: - fix: duplicate work not being logged
  91 2011-08-20 02:06:54 <CIA-101> poolserverj: - updated json-rpc and utils libs
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 102 2011-08-20 02:17:35 <diki> why does rpc.cpp take much more time to compile than any of the other files?
 103 2011-08-20 02:17:47 <diki> its already been 15 minutes
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 105 2011-08-20 02:19:22 <Nicksasa> hmm so i generated a new genesis block trough multicoin
 106 2011-08-20 02:19:59 <Nicksasa> updated hashGenesisBlock, merkleroot, ntime, nnonce etc
 107 2011-08-20 02:20:01 <Nicksasa> but i get ERROR: CheckProofOfWork() : nBits below minimum work
 108 2011-08-20 02:23:13 <sacarlson> Nicksasa: the minimum work is also setable
 109 2011-08-20 02:23:57 <Nicksasa> i think i found my mistake already, used the outputted hashGenesisBlock as hashGenesisBlock in the code
 110 2011-08-20 02:24:07 <sacarlson> Nicksasa: I'm not sure what you had nBits set to at genesis so I'm not sure what you should set it to
 111 2011-08-20 02:24:09 <Nicksasa> but that should be block.GetHash eh
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 113 2011-08-20 02:24:31 <Nicksasa> sacarlson, i've set it to the same value that multicoin outputted
 114 2011-08-20 02:26:13 <sacarlson> Nicksasa: like I said I don't know what you have anything set to so ???  maybe you have this value set too high ProofOfWorkLimit=32
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 118 2011-08-20 02:26:55 <sacarlson> Nicksasa: or is this with a merge mine setup?
 119 2011-08-20 02:27:11 <Nicksasa> no
 120 2011-08-20 02:27:41 <sacarlson> Nicksasa: so what is this value set to ProofOfWorkLimit=32 ?
 121 2011-08-20 02:28:44 <sacarlson> Nicksasa: and what is this value set to block_nBits=486604799 ?
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 123 2011-08-20 02:35:46 <RealSolid> sacarlson: proofofwork limit is to ensure a certain amount of work is done, the more bits the harder it is
 124 2011-08-20 02:35:58 <RealSolid> nbits im not sure
 125 2011-08-20 02:36:27 <sacarlson> RealSolid: nbits is the value that the genesis block difficulty starts
 126 2011-08-20 02:36:56 <RealSolid> perhaps
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 128 2011-08-20 02:37:39 <sacarlson> proofOfWorkLimit is the bottom that the difficulty goes as it measures itself
 129 2011-08-20 02:37:59 <sacarlson> RealSolid: I speak of that what it does in multicion config
 130 2011-08-20 02:39:39 <sacarlson> RealSolid: so how would you generate a new scriptPubKey before a new chain is created?  just steal it from another chain set?
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 133 2011-08-20 02:40:13 <sacarlson> RealSolid: or I guess just create a random number that no one can collect
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 135 2011-08-20 02:41:31 <RealSolid> sacarlson: same way you have in your wallet.dat
 136 2011-08-20 02:42:09 <sacarlson> RealSolid: but it's like what came first the chicken or the egg,  there is no wallet before there is a chain
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 138 2011-08-20 02:43:50 <RealSolid> yes but public keys arent tied to a particular system per se
 139 2011-08-20 02:43:55 <RealSolid> unless they arent using escda
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 141 2011-08-20 02:44:17 <RealSolid> ecdsa rather
 142 2011-08-20 02:44:25 <sacarlson> RealSolid: well then you would need some tool to create a set for a new chain then
 143 2011-08-20 02:45:22 <sacarlson> RealSolid: as they probly already exist then a procedure would be needed on how to use the tool to create the public private key set, how to store it and how to import export it
 144 2011-08-20 02:46:27 <sacarlson> RealSolid: one of the pull request in MultiCoin is an import export for keys
 145 2011-08-20 02:46:33 <RealSolid> yes or you can just use the app itself as it does it
 146 2011-08-20 02:46:48 <RealSolid> to generate pub/priv keys for wallet.dat
 147 2011-08-20 02:47:08 <sacarlson> RealSolid: it still needs to be imported into a wallet
 148 2011-08-20 02:47:11 <RealSolid> but yeah its not for some laymen to just go in there and get the key
 149 2011-08-20 02:47:18 <RealSolid> sacarlson: indeed
 150 2011-08-20 02:47:56 <sacarlson> RealSolid: so that would be another use for the import export feature then
 151 2011-08-20 02:48:07 <RealSolid> yup
 152 2011-08-20 02:48:12 <RealSolid> you also dont mention alert keys
 153 2011-08-20 02:48:38 <RealSolid> which is the same principle, basically allowing messages and whatnot to be sent by "Someone"
 154 2011-08-20 02:48:57 <sacarlson> RealSolid: nope I never used them,  do they also work on the bitcoind also or is that only for the gui?
 155 2011-08-20 02:49:14 <RealSolid> only the bitcoin developers can send them
 156 2011-08-20 02:49:20 <RealSolid> whoever the key owner is anyhow
 157 2011-08-20 02:49:47 <sacarlson> RealSolid: I've glanced at the code for them but again I didn't know how to create a key set
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 159 2011-08-20 02:51:07 <RealSolid> theres also the stop key
 160 2011-08-20 02:51:25 <RealSolid> unless thats tied into the alert system, i havent checked
 161 2011-08-20 02:51:31 <sacarlson> RealSolid: cool to shutdown a client?
 162 2011-08-20 02:52:15 <RealSolid> the network i believe
 163 2011-08-20 02:52:43 <sacarlson> RealSolid: you can stop an entire network with a key?
 164 2011-08-20 02:53:14 <sacarlson> RealSolid: why would you want to?
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 166 2011-08-20 02:53:56 <BitcoinForNewegg> BECAUSE YOU CAN
 167 2011-08-20 02:54:04 <BitcoinForNewegg> and someone told you you couldnt
 168 2011-08-20 02:54:19 <BitcoinForNewegg> why do people do anything noteworthy
 169 2011-08-20 02:54:26 <sacarlson> BitcoinForNewegg:  they should also add the key to format everyones hard disk then
 170 2011-08-20 02:54:40 <BitcoinForNewegg> nah they cant do that
 171 2011-08-20 02:54:46 <BitcoinForNewegg> see what I did there?
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 173 2011-08-20 02:54:59 <RealSolid> BitcoinForNewegg for president
 174 2011-08-20 02:55:13 <BitcoinForNewegg> just say no u cant and I will do it
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 177 2011-08-20 02:55:40 <sacarlson> BitcoinForNewegg: lucky I don't run my clients as root
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 179 2011-08-20 02:59:56 <sacarlson> I'm having some problems with making a i0coin config for MultiCoin for something as little as the spanish letter I can't add to the config
 180 2011-08-20 03:01:03 <sacarlson> aprobación  this letter "ó"
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 182 2011-08-20 03:02:08 <BitcoinForNewegg> this sounds like a challewnge
 183 2011-08-20 03:02:20 <BitcoinForNewegg> create a key that erases hard drives form limited user
 184 2011-08-20 03:03:37 <sacarlson> BitcoinForNewegg: that challenge has already been done 1000's of times by viruses,  it's not that hard
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 186 2011-08-20 03:04:53 <sacarlson> BitcoinForNewegg: and since I see a majority of users still use windows OS it gets scarry how easy it would be
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 195 2011-08-20 03:14:11 <CIA-101> poolserverj: shadders * dd1f87bf2483 r29 /doc/config-samples/local-daemon.properties: - update sample properties file to reflect recent changes.
 196 2011-08-20 03:14:12 <CIA-101> poolserverj: shadders * bc5f9d3f20cb r30 /etc/lib/lib_non-maven/ (4 files): -commit updated libs, missed in previous commit
 197 2011-08-20 03:14:13 <CIA-101> poolserverj: shadders * da6c27178dcc r31 /changelog.txt: - update changelog for 0.2.8 release
 198 2011-08-20 03:14:13 <CIA-101> poolserverj: shadders * 82360143de6e r32 /.hgtags: Added tag 0.2.8 for changeset da6c27178dcc
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 201 2011-08-20 03:20:49 <jjjrmy> BitcoinForNewegg: Hi
 202 2011-08-20 03:21:02 <jjjrmy> Anyone good with Google App Inventor?
 203 2011-08-20 03:21:25 <sacarlson> so my attempted fix for the pszTimestamp  spanish letter problem aprobaci"ó"n  was to add an option to enter the pszTimestamphex  so you could in theory enter any coded text from the config,  but it still won't work, even when I compare the original value to the new
 204 2011-08-20 03:22:05 <sacarlson> if (strcmp(pszTimestamp,pszTimestamp2) != 0)  shows the original matches the new entered with hex
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 318 2011-08-20 08:06:50 <CIA-101> libbitcoin: genjix * rb7879b12e878 /bitcoin.sql: PSQL functions to calculate difficulty.
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 328 2011-08-20 08:43:22 <Delme> Anyone have the formula to find (approximate) hashrate by number of shares submitted over a timeframe?
 329 2011-08-20 08:47:34 <kreal-> many
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 336 2011-08-20 09:13:09 <lfm> delme number of shares * 2^32 -> number of hashes
 337 2011-08-20 09:14:31 <lfm> ;;bc,nethash
 338 2011-08-20 09:14:35 <gribble> 12496.21706630554
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 340 2011-08-20 09:16:43 <coingenuity> devs!
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 346 2011-08-20 09:26:45 <lfm> coingenuity: hi
 347 2011-08-20 09:27:27 <coingenuity> heya lfm
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 350 2011-08-20 09:35:55 <coingenuity> http://tattlecoin.com/2011/factbritcoin-intersango-offering-bounty-private-hackers/
 351 2011-08-20 09:36:34 <lfm> luke-jr you awake?
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 354 2011-08-20 09:44:55 <lfm> ;;tell luke-jr check out http://blockexplorer.com/t/6jSt3dAnar
 355 2011-08-20 09:45:49 <lfm> ;;seen luke-jr
 356 2011-08-20 09:45:50 <gribble> luke-jr was last seen in #bitcoin-dev 15 hours, 39 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <luke-jr> samr7: either use mlock or don't, but don't have it in there doing nothing
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 368 2011-08-20 10:30:06 <knotwork> does rpcconnect notwork on local nets? I set rpcallowip=192.168.2.9 and try to getinfo from that box but it claims it cannot connect
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 370 2011-08-20 10:35:24 <neofutur> check firewall ?
 371 2011-08-20 10:38:51 <knotwork> yep you got it, somehow one box had its firewall still on un noticed all this time until now
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 417 2011-08-20 12:48:06 <UukGoblin> hm, friend is reporting that his bitcoin client stops downloading blocks after a while, despite still having connections
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 419 2011-08-20 12:48:29 <UukGoblin> continues to download after a restart, for a while, then stops again -- any ideas?
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 421 2011-08-20 13:03:19 <BitcoinForNewegg> has he tried blowing the program away and reinstalling it?
 422 2011-08-20 13:09:57 <UukGoblin> don't think so... that'd make him download all the shit again
 423 2011-08-20 13:13:07 <BitcoinForNewegg>  its a good first step, just to ensure it was installed properly with no errors
 424 2011-08-20 13:13:13 <BitcoinForNewegg> then we dont have to worry about that part
 425 2011-08-20 13:16:44 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * r75018d0d4802 cgminer/main.c: Release cl resources should the gpu mining thread abort.
 426 2011-08-20 13:16:46 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * r1b228ee3d41f cgminer/main.c: Re-enable devices immediately after ther old threads would have been killed off in case the first attempt to restart them fails but we still want them emabled.
 427 2011-08-20 13:16:48 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * r324d849bf247 cgminer/ (main.c miner.h):
 428 2011-08-20 13:16:48 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Attempt to restart a GPU once every minute while it's sick. Don't kill off the
 429 2011-08-20 13:16:48 <CIA-101> bitcoin: reinit thread if it fails to init a GPU but returns safely. Only declare a GPU
 430 2011-08-20 13:16:48 <CIA-101> bitcoin: dead if there's been no sign of activity from the reinit thread for 10 mins.
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 434 2011-08-20 13:26:46 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * rb358bdc07ef1 cgminer/main.c: Never automatically disable any pools but just specify them as idle if they're unresponsive at startup.
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 447 2011-08-20 14:31:39 <BitcoinForNewegg> hey, any server dudes here that I coudl ask a few questions in a PM?
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 450 2011-08-20 14:37:47 <phungus> server dudes?
 451 2011-08-20 14:37:50 <phungus> like sysadmins?
 452 2011-08-20 14:38:11 * phungus <- sysadmin
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 454 2011-08-20 14:41:06 <BitcoinForNewegg> nah
 455 2011-08-20 14:41:11 <BitcoinForNewegg> 'server dudes'
 456 2011-08-20 14:41:21 <asher^> half dude half server?
 457 2011-08-20 14:41:24 <BitcoinForNewegg> well, I got a sysadmin question too
 458 2011-08-20 14:41:41 <BitcoinForNewegg> is there any to check on windows updates release date history?
 459 2011-08-20 14:42:08 <BitcoinForNewegg> like get a list of dates updates were released besides the normal 2nd tuesday ones
 460 2011-08-20 14:43:15 <BitcoinForNewegg> I think windows updates broke my network at home
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 462 2011-08-20 14:45:23 <BitcoinForNewegg> it broke at 3:00 AM
 463 2011-08-20 14:45:31 <BitcoinForNewegg> one of my ESXi hosts died :(
 464 2011-08-20 14:46:10 <phungus> hmm
 465 2011-08-20 14:46:24 <phungus> you can look at the Software Distribution directory
 466 2011-08-20 14:46:30 <phungus> at file mod times
 467 2011-08-20 14:46:34 <phungus> directory create times, etc
 468 2011-08-20 14:46:42 <BitcoinForNewegg> ahhh that may work :)
 469 2011-08-20 14:46:54 <BitcoinForNewegg> unless M$ copies files + attributes
 470 2011-08-20 14:47:07 <phungus> there are logs too
 471 2011-08-20 14:47:09 <edcba> windowsupdate.log ?
 472 2011-08-20 14:47:31 <phungus> c:\windows\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore\Logs
 473 2011-08-20 14:47:42 <phungus> what's up with your esxi?
 474 2011-08-20 14:47:50 <BitcoinForNewegg> 1000v died :(
 475 2011-08-20 14:48:04 <phungus> 1000w?
 476 2011-08-20 14:48:05 <BitcoinForNewegg> I think it was windows updates
 477 2011-08-20 14:48:06 <phungus> PSU?
 478 2011-08-20 14:48:09 <BitcoinForNewegg> no v
 479 2011-08-20 14:48:17 <BitcoinForNewegg> its a virtual switch
 480 2011-08-20 14:48:20 <phungus> oh
 481 2011-08-20 14:48:29 <phungus> not familiar with the plug-in switches
 482 2011-08-20 14:48:31 <BitcoinForNewegg> I have 10 gig going to 1 gig with no QOS...
 483 2011-08-20 14:48:52 <phungus> hmm
 484 2011-08-20 14:49:11 <BitcoinForNewegg> I think it caused packet drops
 485 2011-08-20 14:49:17 <BitcoinForNewegg> and the 1000v lost connection
 486 2011-08-20 14:49:25 <BitcoinForNewegg> which caused it to die
 487 2011-08-20 14:49:30 <BitcoinForNewegg> for some reason I dont know yet
 488 2011-08-20 14:50:56 <BitcoinForNewegg> well, I can wait for next update tuesday and see if it happens again after fixing my QOS
 489 2011-08-20 14:52:41 <phungus> sounds like a plan
 490 2011-08-20 14:52:45 <BitcoinForNewegg> and thanks for letting me know about windows update.log
 491 2011-08-20 14:52:47 <phungus> wish I knew more about the ESX switches
 492 2011-08-20 14:52:58 <phungus> I've done ESX setups with SAN and all that
 493 2011-08-20 14:53:01 <phungus> but no switches. :-)
 494 2011-08-20 14:53:05 <BitcoinForNewegg> 1000v is fun and has 60 day trial :)_
 495 2011-08-20 14:53:09 <phungus> I know Cisco has one
 496 2011-08-20 14:53:15 <BitcoinForNewegg> ya 1000v is Cisco one
 497 2011-08-20 14:53:20 <phungus> oh there ya go
 498 2011-08-20 14:53:20 <phungus> ok
 499 2011-08-20 14:53:30 <phungus> sounds neat. :-)
 500 2011-08-20 14:53:34 <BitcoinForNewegg> it is awesome
 501 2011-08-20 14:53:47 <BitcoinForNewegg> a bit overkill for a home network tho
 502 2011-08-20 14:53:51 <phungus> if I had an ESX host I'd play with it. I only admin guests at the moment
 503 2011-08-20 14:53:53 <BitcoinForNewegg> but so is my sup720-3b :)
 504 2011-08-20 14:53:59 <phungus> heh
 505 2011-08-20 14:54:08 <phungus> I used to have a bunch of router gear at home
 506 2011-08-20 14:54:14 <phungus> when I was still a CCNP
 507 2011-08-20 14:54:25 <BitcoinForNewegg> i dont have CCNP yet... stupid lacp sim
 508 2011-08-20 14:54:26 <phungus> it's so much easier today
 509 2011-08-20 14:54:31 <phungus> mine expired in 2005
 510 2011-08-20 14:54:31 <phungus> heh
 511 2011-08-20 14:54:43 <BitcoinForNewegg> you didnt get the expeience of the SWITCH exam :)
 512 2011-08-20 14:54:49 <BitcoinForNewegg> its brutal
 513 2011-08-20 14:54:51 <phungus> I had to do Remote Access
 514 2011-08-20 14:54:53 <phungus> and it was so broken
 515 2011-08-20 14:55:01 <phungus> this was 2001
 516 2011-08-20 14:55:06 <BitcoinForNewegg> ahhh
 517 2011-08-20 14:55:34 <phungus> yeah we had to learn all the old obsolete stuff
 518 2011-08-20 14:55:39 <phungus> it was ok though
 519 2011-08-20 14:55:51 <phungus> I went from no certs through CCNA to CCNP in 6 months
 520 2011-08-20 14:55:52 <BitcoinForNewegg> now they got ipv6 fo rliek 10% of the test :/
 521 2011-08-20 14:56:00 <phungus> ick
 522 2011-08-20 14:56:03 <phungus> :-)
 523 2011-08-20 14:56:08 <phungus> though we should all learn/know it
 524 2011-08-20 14:56:14 <Dagger3> but IPv6 is easy :-)
 525 2011-08-20 14:56:19 <BitcoinForNewegg> yes we shoudl ahve known it for 3 years now
 526 2011-08-20 14:56:27 <BitcoinForNewegg> its just ipv4 withotu friendly numbers :)
 527 2011-08-20 14:56:39 <phungus> yeah, it's the bit math I never liked
 528 2011-08-20 14:56:42 <BitcoinForNewegg> and new crazy features nobody will ever use
 529 2011-08-20 14:56:59 <BitcoinForNewegg> srsly.... mac address embedded in IP address
 530 2011-08-20 14:57:09 <phungus> yuk
 531 2011-08-20 14:57:13 <phungus> I don't like the sound of that
 532 2011-08-20 14:57:32 <BitcoinForNewegg> we have 128 bits, so we must find a use for them
 533 2011-08-20 14:57:43 <phungus> probably military request
 534 2011-08-20 14:57:44 <phungus> or something
 535 2011-08-20 14:57:52 <phungus> know the device from end to end
 536 2011-08-20 14:57:52 <BitcoinForNewegg> maybe with ipv10 we will have a poem in the address
 537 2011-08-20 14:58:00 <phungus> Haiku
 538 2011-08-20 14:58:14 <Dagger3> the idea was to allow autoconf of addresses; you know the address you pick will be unique because your MAC address has to be unique anyway
 539 2011-08-20 14:58:27 <BitcoinForNewegg> but macs arent always unique
 540 2011-08-20 14:58:33 <phungus> yeah but that's also a neat way to identify users too
 541 2011-08-20 14:58:37 <BitcoinForNewegg> they onlyhave to be unique per vlan
 542 2011-08-20 14:58:47 <phungus> manufacturers can track MAC address assignments
 543 2011-08-20 14:58:49 <Dagger3> if you don't like the privacy issue, use privacy extensions... and if you don't like the "it's long" issue, assign short addresses manually
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 545 2011-08-20 14:59:03 <phungus> hmm
 546 2011-08-20 14:59:05 <BitcoinForNewegg> but with virtual stull you can pick a mac address
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 548 2011-08-20 14:59:15 <BitcoinForNewegg> stuff*
 549 2011-08-20 14:59:17 <phungus> well, you can pick one in Linux today anyhow
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 551 2011-08-20 14:59:30 <Dagger3> they have to be unique per L2 broadcast domain, and you can't span an L3 subnet over multiple L2 broadcast domains, so it's unique enough
 552 2011-08-20 14:59:39 <BitcoinForNewegg> are the vmware macs random in a specific range, or are they all assigned to the license?
 553 2011-08-20 15:00:04 <jrmithdobbs> random
 554 2011-08-20 15:00:14 <jrmithdobbs> with a given 2 byte prefix
 555 2011-08-20 15:00:21 <BitcoinForNewegg> you can span a l3 subnet across broadcast comains if ypou try really hard :)
 556 2011-08-20 15:00:22 <jrmithdobbs> maybe 4 bytes i forget
 557 2011-08-20 15:00:53 <phungus> well, I'm getting closer.... I'm having to hack up the libraries at the same time as my app and these references are getting confusing.... :-)
 558 2011-08-20 15:00:56 <phungus> Bot> Deposit Address: {Finance::Bitcoin::Address=HASH(0x227a8f0)}
 559 2011-08-20 15:01:10 <BitcoinForNewegg> thats stupid
 560 2011-08-20 15:01:14 <BitcoinForNewegg> 4 bytes is notning
 561 2011-08-20 15:01:28 <jrmithdobbs> why's it stupid
 562 2011-08-20 15:01:31 <BitcoinForNewegg> that limits u to 65536 addresses
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 564 2011-08-20 15:01:47 <jrmithdobbs> no
 565 2011-08-20 15:01:55 <BitcoinForNewegg> oh stupid me
 566 2011-08-20 15:02:00 <BitcoinForNewegg> 4B
 567 2011-08-20 15:02:01 <jrmithdobbs> it has a 4 byte PREFIX not a 4 byte random section
 568 2011-08-20 15:02:04 <BitcoinForNewegg> thats fine :)
 569 2011-08-20 15:02:08 <jrmithdobbs> ya
 570 2011-08-20 15:02:25 <BitcoinForNewegg> 48-32=16
 571 2011-08-20 15:02:32 <BitcoinForNewegg> so 65536
 572 2011-08-20 15:02:36 <BitcoinForNewegg> i was wrong again
 573 2011-08-20 15:03:18 <BitcoinForNewegg> there wil be tons of dupes with that
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 576 2011-08-20 15:06:11 <BitcoinForNewegg> anyone know a cheap way to get a FC SAN?
 577 2011-08-20 15:06:14 <BitcoinForNewegg> for home
 578 2011-08-20 15:10:41 <jrmithdobbs> BitcoinForNewegg: i just opened the fusion prefs on my laptop, it is only 2 bytes
 579 2011-08-20 15:11:04 <jrmithdobbs> there's no way to get cheap fc san
 580 2011-08-20 15:11:14 <jrmithdobbs> you're better off with a decent gig switch and iscsi
 581 2011-08-20 15:11:27 <jrmithdobbs> just dedicate the switch like you would a fibre switch
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 594 2011-08-20 15:53:11 <BitcoinForNewegg> ya, im just too cheap to get 10 gig nics
 595 2011-08-20 15:53:20 <BitcoinForNewegg> and I want 'more than 1 gig'
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 597 2011-08-20 15:53:41 <phungus> cheap fc san is relative
 598 2011-08-20 15:53:42 <jrmithdobbs> but gige nics are like $15-50
 599 2011-08-20 15:53:44 <phungus> check out Infortrend
 600 2011-08-20 15:53:50 <jrmithdobbs> hbas are $500-1500
 601 2011-08-20 15:53:56 <BitcoinForNewegg> 10 gig are $500
 602 2011-08-20 15:54:02 <BitcoinForNewegg> and I woudl need like 4
 603 2011-08-20 15:54:17 <BitcoinForNewegg> and a 10 gig linecard
 604 2011-08-20 15:54:23 <BitcoinForNewegg> so like $20k
 605 2011-08-20 15:54:27 <phungus> that is some serious bandwidth
 606 2011-08-20 15:54:29 <phungus> wtf are you doing?
 607 2011-08-20 15:54:33 <phungus> :-)
 608 2011-08-20 15:54:34 <BitcoinForNewegg> home network
 609 2011-08-20 15:54:36 <Eliel> there was some python code somewhere that could parse blk0001.dat (and maybe blkindex.dat) but I can't remember what words to give google, where was it?
 610 2011-08-20 15:54:38 <jrmithdobbs> you probably don't need 10g no matter what you think
 611 2011-08-20 15:54:39 <phungus> gah
 612 2011-08-20 15:54:41 <phungus> wasteful
 613 2011-08-20 15:54:58 <phungus> I used to collect gear
 614 2011-08-20 15:55:01 <BitcoinForNewegg> my switches only have 2x 10 gig ports
 615 2011-08-20 15:55:06 <BitcoinForNewegg> well, had...
 616 2011-08-20 15:55:08 <BitcoinForNewegg> I upgraded
 617 2011-08-20 15:55:11 <phungus> had piles of Sun stations, NeXT, NCDs, etc
 618 2011-08-20 15:55:22 <phungus> had to throw all of that out after the millenium
 619 2011-08-20 15:55:22 <BitcoinForNewegg> awesome
 620 2011-08-20 15:55:32 <BitcoinForNewegg> ya I threw out my collection of old computers
 621 2011-08-20 15:55:47 <BitcoinForNewegg> I used to go to university surplus and get whatever servers thye ahd for $1
 622 2011-08-20 15:55:57 <phungus> I used to spend too much money. :-(
 623 2011-08-20 15:56:27 <BitcoinForNewegg> i found a dual PII that could have 4 GB ram with 64 meg sticks
 624 2011-08-20 15:56:32 <Eliel> ah, nevermind, found it
 625 2011-08-20 15:56:58 <jrmithdobbs> so you like to live in a jet engine and waste several hundred kWhs or power
 626 2011-08-20 15:56:59 <jrmithdobbs> i see
 627 2011-08-20 15:57:07 <BitcoinForNewegg> nah just 5 KW
 628 2011-08-20 15:57:11 <BitcoinForNewegg> so $35 a month
 629 2011-08-20 15:57:14 <BitcoinForNewegg> $350
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 632 2011-08-20 15:57:54 <BitcoinForNewegg> i got me a 6506 with sup720-3b and 7648 with dfc3b :)
 633 2011-08-20 15:58:03 <BitcoinForNewegg> 6748*
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 637 2011-08-20 15:59:59 <BitcoinForNewegg> ebay rules :)
 638 2011-08-20 16:01:10 <diki> erm
 639 2011-08-20 16:01:15 <diki> i have disabled the paytxfee
 640 2011-08-20 16:01:20 <diki> but it still charges me 0.0005
 641 2011-08-20 16:02:27 <diki> why is that?
 642 2011-08-20 16:02:31 <diki> no way to disable it?
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 648 2011-08-20 16:10:38 <phungus> can't you just emulate those with software now?
 649 2011-08-20 16:10:39 <phungus> heh
 650 2011-08-20 16:10:55 <phungus> I think you can even do CallMgr/Unity virtual now
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 652 2011-08-20 16:11:09 <phungus> or maybe it's that it requires one FXO/FXS port or something
 653 2011-08-20 16:11:30 <phungus> to setup a purely virtual Cisco voice lab
 654 2011-08-20 16:11:34 <BitcoinForNewegg> well, u always need fxs/fxo ports for POTS
 655 2011-08-20 16:11:40 <BitcoinForNewegg> and for real phones
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 657 2011-08-20 16:12:06 <BitcoinForNewegg> and no you cant emulate a sup720 in software
 658 2011-08-20 16:12:12 <phungus> ah
 659 2011-08-20 16:12:23 <phungus> does it have specific commands?
 660 2011-08-20 16:12:26 <BitcoinForNewegg> it does 400mpps and 1M routes I think, or is that the 3bxl
 661 2011-08-20 16:12:46 <BitcoinForNewegg> thats 400gbps roughly, with a full internet routeing table
 662 2011-08-20 16:12:56 <phungus> sounds like a bad-ass supervisor
 663 2011-08-20 16:12:57 <phungus> heh
 664 2011-08-20 16:13:02 <BitcoinForNewegg> ya
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 666 2011-08-20 16:13:05 <phungus> those weren't out when I was managing 65XX
 667 2011-08-20 16:13:13 <phungus> or they were hella-expensive
 668 2011-08-20 16:13:16 <phungus> and our shop didn't have them
 669 2011-08-20 16:13:31 <BitcoinForNewegg> well, you need DFCs to get that much
 670 2011-08-20 16:13:47 <BitcoinForNewegg> mind if I explain how it works in here ir shoudl I go in private chat?
 671 2011-08-20 16:13:55 <phungus> go4it
 672 2011-08-20 16:14:03 <BitcoinForNewegg> ok, the linecards each have a DFC
 673 2011-08-20 16:14:17 <BitcoinForNewegg> it can hold 1M routes and handle a crapload of bandwidth
 674 2011-08-20 16:14:24 <BitcoinForNewegg> the DFC is programmed by the supervisor
 675 2011-08-20 16:14:40 <BitcoinForNewegg> so when a packet comes in to one of th elinecards...
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 677 2011-08-20 16:14:42 <phungus> man they had to really pull out some tricks
 678 2011-08-20 16:15:10 <BitcoinForNewegg> the linecard's DFC already has the FIB table and can do a lookup to see which port it is destined to
 679 2011-08-20 16:15:25 <BitcoinForNewegg> if it is local to that linecard it sends it out the other port
 680 2011-08-20 16:15:32 <phungus> werd
 681 2011-08-20 16:15:51 <BitcoinForNewegg> if it is on a different linecard, the switch has a 40 gbps fabric so it sends it directly over a 'private' 40 gbps connection to that linecard
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 683 2011-08-20 16:16:05 <BitcoinForNewegg> the supervisor never sees the packet
 684 2011-08-20 16:16:21 <BitcoinForNewegg> its called distributed Cisco Express FOrwarding I think
 685 2011-08-20 16:16:26 <BitcoinForNewegg> or dCEF
 686 2011-08-20 16:16:43 <BitcoinForNewegg> and each linecard can send 40 gbps to other linecards at the same time
 687 2011-08-20 16:17:18 <BitcoinForNewegg> 6509 has 7 linecards (common) so max 280 gpbs
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 689 2011-08-20 16:17:45 <BitcoinForNewegg> its called a 720 cause it does 720 gpbs
 690 2011-08-20 16:17:59 <BitcoinForNewegg> theres 9 slots with 40 gpbs bicirectional fabric
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 692 2011-08-20 16:18:35 <BitcoinForNewegg> and I forget if multicast is replicated in fabric, or where all that happens :(
 693 2011-08-20 16:18:40 <jjjrmy> anyone know Google App Inventor?
 694 2011-08-20 16:18:42 <BitcoinForNewegg> now the cool thing...
 695 2011-08-20 16:18:52 <BitcoinForNewegg> if you do not have DFC, and have jsut CFC that comes with it
 696 2011-08-20 16:19:27 <BitcoinForNewegg> each linecard takes the packet header and sends it to the supervisor over the legacy 20gbps buss and the supervisor tells it which card to send the packet to
 697 2011-08-20 16:19:44 <BitcoinForNewegg> then it gets sent over the fabric
 698 2011-08-20 16:20:02 <BitcoinForNewegg> any special packets get sent to the supervisor, but thats another story for anothr day
 699 2011-08-20 16:20:45 <BitcoinForNewegg> and if ypou take a legacy card and put it in a chassis that uses CFCs...
 700 2011-08-20 16:20:51 <BitcoinForNewegg> it gives u half the bandwidth
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 702 2011-08-20 16:21:14 <BitcoinForNewegg> cause it has to ahcnge the encapsulization on the buss to allow legacy cards to talk as well
 703 2011-08-20 16:21:28 <BitcoinForNewegg> but thats not a big problem, 10gpbs of headers is a lot
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 705 2011-08-20 16:22:57 <BitcoinForNewegg> try to do just that in hardware... and account for head of line blocking, queueing, ACLS, NAT in hardware...
 706 2011-08-20 16:23:08 <BitcoinForNewegg> err repalce first hardware with software :)
 707 2011-08-20 16:23:26 <BitcoinForNewegg> you woudl probably need an emulator for each asic
 708 2011-08-20 16:24:41 <BitcoinForNewegg> and the sup32 do the same thing but have 20 gbps of fabric basically
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 710 2011-08-20 16:26:14 <BitcoinForNewegg> I assume you got bored and are no longer listening :)
 711 2011-08-20 16:26:16 <phungus> whoa
 712 2011-08-20 16:26:18 <phungus> no
 713 2011-08-20 16:26:22 <phungus> had to get kids ready to go
 714 2011-08-20 16:26:31 <phungus> now I'm trying to process all that
 715 2011-08-20 16:26:44 <phungus> thx for the info
 716 2011-08-20 16:26:44 <BitcoinForNewegg> its like a city in somethign the size of a minifridge
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 718 2011-08-20 16:27:10 <BitcoinForNewegg> anyways the cool part is how old it is
 719 2011-08-20 16:27:15 <BitcoinForNewegg> the 6500 is from liek 1999
 720 2011-08-20 16:27:17 <BitcoinForNewegg> or older
 721 2011-08-20 16:27:23 <BitcoinForNewegg> it started as the 6000
 722 2011-08-20 16:27:33 <BitcoinForNewegg> and only worked wiht the sup1, and had no fabric and no routing
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 724 2011-08-20 16:27:48 <phungus> oh
 725 2011-08-20 16:27:56 <phungus> I meant emulating for training purposes
 726 2011-08-20 16:28:02 <BitcoinForNewegg> you can take a sup1 and put it in the newest 6500 and it will still work :)
 727 2011-08-20 16:28:21 <BitcoinForNewegg> good luck debugging head of line blocking on an enulator :)
 728 2011-08-20 16:28:24 <phungus> so you just want to be running a big bad switch
 729 2011-08-20 16:28:33 <BitcoinForNewegg> its my favorite
 730 2011-08-20 16:28:38 <phungus> gotta run man, thx for the info
 731 2011-08-20 16:28:41 <phungus> sounds nice
 732 2011-08-20 16:28:41 <phungus> :-)
 733 2011-08-20 16:28:42 <BitcoinForNewegg> sure :)
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 736 2011-08-20 16:33:08 <BitcoinForNewegg> anyone here know if I coudl mine on a 6500?
 737 2011-08-20 16:33:41 <BitcoinForNewegg> i was thinking sup2 + 12 WS-SVC-FWM-1-K9
 738 2011-08-20 16:43:55 <BitcoinForNewegg> anyone use puttyconnectionmanager?
 739 2011-08-20 16:44:25 <jjjrmy> :)
 740 2011-08-20 16:44:28 <jjjrmy> :(
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 742 2011-08-20 16:45:16 <BitcoinForNewegg> if anyone can fix it so it doenst die randomly I woudl give bitcoins
 743 2011-08-20 16:45:24 <diki> fix what?
 744 2011-08-20 16:45:51 <BitcoinForNewegg> putty connecxtion manager
 745 2011-08-20 16:45:54 <diki> oh, pussyconnectionmanager. If you can't fix that yourself..
 746 2011-08-20 16:45:57 <diki> no one can ;)
 747 2011-08-20 16:46:04 <BitcoinForNewegg> lol
 748 2011-08-20 16:46:14 <diki> connection to the pussy is easy
 749 2011-08-20 16:46:16 <BitcoinForNewegg> not even bitcoins?
 750 2011-08-20 16:46:28 <cjdelisle> I should start naming classes like that :)
 751 2011-08-20 16:47:55 <genjix> what is jei's name?
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 768 2011-08-20 17:26:34 <Doktor99> wierd problem: two miners behind same firewall and when they are both mining on btcguild, long polling is not pushing new work
 769 2011-08-20 17:26:46 <Doktor99> so there are strings of rejects
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 771 2011-08-20 17:27:12 <Doktor99> it is like the LP is not pushing the new work and yet the phoenix keeps going, finding invalid blocks
 772 2011-08-20 17:28:20 <Eliel> diki: there are transactions that the network won't accept without a fee. In those cases, it still takes the fee.
 773 2011-08-20 17:32:20 <luke-jr> Doktor99: maybe BTCGuild is broken. try #Eligius ;)
 774 2011-08-20 17:33:08 <Doktor99> like-jr: really? i would rather confirm the problem then switch...
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 776 2011-08-20 17:34:06 <luke-jr> Doktor99: switching would do both :D
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 778 2011-08-20 17:34:21 <luke-jr> Doktor99: and support a better pool!
 779 2011-08-20 17:36:31 <ThomasV> a catholic pool!
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 781 2011-08-20 17:37:49 <Doktor99> luke-jr: you guys are at 463 GH/s, i see
 782 2011-08-20 17:37:53 <luke-jr> ThomasV: that's almost redundant
 783 2011-08-20 17:38:06 <luke-jr> Doktor99: usually closer to 600, but that hardly matters
 784 2011-08-20 17:38:08 <ThomasV> do they mine on sundays ?
 785 2011-08-20 17:38:24 <luke-jr> Doktor99: it doesn't make a difference unless you have some huge hashrate yourselg
 786 2011-08-20 17:38:27 <luke-jr> yourself*
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 788 2011-08-20 17:40:59 <ThomasV> how long will it take until a miner writes prayers to Satan in the blockchain ?
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 790 2011-08-20 17:42:03 <Doktor99> luke-jr: payouts how often
 791 2011-08-20 17:42:17 <luke-jr> Doktor99: every 0.34 BTC
 792 2011-08-20 17:42:32 <luke-jr> sometimes up to 3 days delay when luck is bad
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 794 2011-08-20 17:43:06 <luke-jr> when luck is OK, instant
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 799 2011-08-20 18:01:26 <someone42> does anyone know if variable length integers in transactions are stored little-endian or big-endian?
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 801 2011-08-20 18:03:37 <marf_away> median endian
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 806 2011-08-20 18:22:13 <BitcoinForNewegg> they start with the even bits then move on to the odd
 807 2011-08-20 18:24:32 <someone42> dw i figured it's little-endian
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 818 2011-08-20 18:53:25 <diki> what was bitcoin's p2p port?
 819 2011-08-20 18:53:35 <diki> the one it uses to accept connections?
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 884 2011-08-20 21:25:11 <TiagoTiago> hi
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 886 2011-08-20 21:25:23 <TiagoTiago> how risky it is to copy your wallet without closing the client?
 887 2011-08-20 21:26:15 <phantomcircuit> TiagoTiago, dont do that
 888 2011-08-20 21:26:20 <tcatm> TiagoTiago: very risky
 889 2011-08-20 21:26:25 <phantomcircuit> it *probably* wont be an issue
 890 2011-08-20 21:26:28 <phantomcircuit> but dont do that
 891 2011-08-20 21:26:49 <tcatm> TiagoTiago: do it only if you can afford losing all your coins
 892 2011-08-20 21:27:16 <TiagoTiago> Now that's gonna make setting up an automated backup a whole more complicated :(
 893 2011-08-20 21:27:30 <phantomcircuit> TiagoTiago, there is an rpc call for backing up the wallet
 894 2011-08-20 21:27:43 <TiagoTiago> Where does the copy go?
 895 2011-08-20 21:28:04 <zamgo> wherever you tell it to go
 896 2011-08-20 21:28:52 <TiagoTiago> Hm, RPC? Is there a way to do it via commandline parameter? (i don't wanna have to write a program, currently i'm doing it with just the task scheduler and a bat file)
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 898 2011-08-20 21:29:12 <zamgo> ouch, my head hurts
 899 2011-08-20 21:29:12 <TiagoTiago> running WinXP here, not sure if that changes anything
 900 2011-08-20 21:29:23 <TiagoTiago> lol
 901 2011-08-20 21:29:27 <zamgo> taigo: type:   bitcoind help backupwallet
 902 2011-08-20 21:29:35 <TiagoTiago> ok
 903 2011-08-20 21:31:29 <TiagoTiago> error: couldn't connect to server
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 905 2011-08-20 21:34:36 <zamgo> it helps to actually have bitcoin running first
 906 2011-08-20 21:35:27 <TiagoTiago> it is
 907 2011-08-20 21:35:34 <TiagoTiago> i can see the icon on my traybar
 908 2011-08-20 21:35:47 <TiagoTiago> yep, it's still running
 909 2011-08-20 21:35:54 <zamgo> you need real support from a person who cares
 910 2011-08-20 21:35:59 <zamgo> that's not me, sorry
 911 2011-08-20 21:36:01 <TiagoTiago> lol
 912 2011-08-20 21:36:07 <zamgo> ;)
 913 2011-08-20 21:36:47 <TiagoTiago> i don't think the default startup shortcut launches it in server mode though, i guess that could be it
 914 2011-08-20 21:41:01 <cjdelisle> It's insulting enough to get advertised to when you try to watch the vid but "advertisement incoming in 20 seconds" is the icing on the cake :(
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 917 2011-08-20 21:44:58 <cjdelisle> Raft of ads incoming, starboard side, 10'oclock, all hands on deck, ready the guns!
 918 2011-08-20 21:47:56 <Eliel> ads? where?
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 920 2011-08-20 21:50:19 <cjdelisle> the tv stream
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 924 2011-08-20 21:55:53 <TiagoTiago> bitcoin backupwallet thensomefolderpath is giving me an empty dialog box...
 925 2011-08-20 21:56:07 <Eliel> TiagoTiago: bitcoind, not bitcoin
 926 2011-08-20 21:56:39 <TiagoTiago> does it matter? I thought the only difference between the two was whether it showed a GUI
 927 2011-08-20 21:58:14 <TiagoTiago> ok, using the daemon it gives more information, the error is the file is already there. Well, now that isn't very helpfull when i'm doing an automated backup *sighs* gotta add another line to the batch file to delete the backup before doing it again...
 928 2011-08-20 21:59:19 <lfm> if you are using bitcoin gui you need the -server command line flag
 929 2011-08-20 22:00:13 <TiagoTiago> instead of doing all this useless copying over, can i just use a command to tell the client to stop touching the wallet file for a little while so i can run this automated file synchronisation proggie that will only make copies when there is a change?
 930 2011-08-20 22:00:41 <TiagoTiago> (i have that proggie, all i need is to have a way to be safe to copy the wallet file)
 931 2011-08-20 22:00:51 <lfm> TiagoTiago: youd just STOP the client to tell it to stop touching the files
 932 2011-08-20 22:01:32 <TiagoTiago> how long does it take when for ti to stop when it is in the middle of writing to the wallet? (just to be safe)
 933 2011-08-20 22:02:04 <lfm> ya it can take 30 second or so to shut down fully
 934 2011-08-20 22:02:29 <TiagoTiago> Oh, that command closes the program itself?
 935 2011-08-20 22:02:55 <TiagoTiago> Is there nothing to just make it keep it's hand off the wallet for a little bit while i copy it?
 936 2011-08-20 22:02:59 <lfm> ya, thats how you make it stop fiddling with files
 937 2011-08-20 22:03:25 <lfm> its the only way
 938 2011-08-20 22:03:29 * TiagoTiago sighs
 939 2011-08-20 22:04:01 <TiagoTiago> How do people usually do automated wallet backups?
 940 2011-08-20 22:04:21 <lfm> use the -server flag and bitcoin backupwallet command
 941 2011-08-20 22:04:40 <TiagoTiago> and keep deleting the backup or creating new folders each time?
 942 2011-08-20 22:05:09 <lfm> you can write over top the previous one or dlete old ones whatever you wish
 943 2011-08-20 22:05:44 <TiagoTiago> people doing automated backups have to do that?
 944 2011-08-20 22:06:08 <TiagoTiago> how do i tell Bitcoin to overwrite the backup?
 945 2011-08-20 22:06:19 <lfm> use the same name as last time
 946 2011-08-20 22:06:28 <TiagoTiago> it complains the file already exists
 947 2011-08-20 22:06:35 <lfm> bitcoin(d) backupwallet name
 948 2011-08-20 22:06:52 <lfm> oh, sorry, I guess you have t use a new name
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 950 2011-08-20 22:08:32 <TiagoTiago> can i specify a filename for the backup or it will always call it wallet.dat?
 951 2011-08-20 22:08:49 <lfm> bitcoin(d) backupwallet name
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 953 2011-08-20 22:09:50 <TiagoTiago> aight, thanx
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 957 2011-08-20 22:13:31 <diki> anyone ever had this issue with chrome?:
 958 2011-08-20 22:13:45 <diki> basically as soon as i scroll down to the footer of a forum it freezes
 959 2011-08-20 22:13:57 <diki> it happens on bitcointalk.org as well
 960 2011-08-20 22:15:35 <TiagoTiago> tried a new profile? (does Chrome use profiles like Firefox?)
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 962 2011-08-20 22:16:14 <diki> i have no idea
 963 2011-08-20 22:16:29 <diki> but this is a really annoying thing
 964 2011-08-20 22:16:38 <diki> i looked at the html of the footers
 965 2011-08-20 22:16:45 <diki> and there is no JS that could cause this
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 998 2011-08-20 23:11:50 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * r7c6dfaccf1b9 cgminer/main.c: Display which longpoll failed and don't free the ram for lp_url since it belongs to the pool hdr path.
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1010 2011-08-20 23:32:34 <Vladimir> daily https://bitcoin.org.uk roll:
1011 2011-08-20 23:32:49 <Vladimir> ;;dice 1d98
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