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7 2011-09-10 00:03:20 <Diablo-D3> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2421292&cid=37358454
8 2011-09-10 00:03:20 <leetcharmer> Hey all
9 2011-09-10 00:03:22 <Diablo-D3> hah!
10 2011-09-10 00:03:32 <leetcharmer> How's it going?
11 2011-09-10 00:04:22 <leetcharmer> Does anyone know what's going on over at #bitcoin?
12 2011-09-10 00:04:37 <leetcharmer> Seems flooded with trolls
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22 2011-09-10 00:13:49 <makomk> leetcharmer: I think something awful happened to #bitcoin, yeah.
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27 2011-09-10 00:16:02 <leetcharmer> Just #bitcoin or all of bitcoins?
28 2011-09-10 00:16:35 <leetcharmer> Seems like value took a dive today
29 2011-09-10 00:18:18 <cjdelisle> haha at least they didn't fail like they did in #bitcoin-police
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47 2011-09-10 00:48:20 <wardearia> https://gitorious.org/bitcoin-markets/bitcoin-markets Feel free to offer feedback. bbl sleep
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50 2011-09-10 00:59:52 <wtfman> god damn, how much time did the hacker invest in the deface
51 2011-09-10 01:00:46 <noagendamarket> a lot
52 2011-09-10 01:00:55 <noagendamarket> Its a goddamn masterpiece
53 2011-09-10 01:01:02 <noagendamarket> Like the bruce video
54 2011-09-10 01:01:20 <wtfman> which one?
55 2011-09-10 01:01:55 <wtfman> the one where he admits to scam all people on mybitcoin.com?
56 2011-09-10 01:02:29 <noagendamarket> yea
57 2011-09-10 01:02:31 <noagendamarket> lol
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59 2011-09-10 01:02:34 <noagendamarket> http://buttcoin.org/bruce-wagner-admits-to-the-hacking-of-mybitcoin-com
60 2011-09-10 01:03:01 <wtfman> nice effort yep
61 2011-09-10 01:03:53 <wtfman> he is alike alan harper
62 2011-09-10 01:03:57 <wtfman> imo
63 2011-09-10 01:04:33 <k9quaint> ironically, this will probably generate lots of press for bitcoin, which is always good :)
64 2011-09-10 01:05:26 <wtfman> i know, every publicity == good, but not sure if this is true for a currency
65 2011-09-10 01:06:01 <k9quaint> well, the power of bitcoin is that it exists everywhere simultaneously
66 2011-09-10 01:06:06 <wtfman> i never heard of ppl buying zimbabwe $$$ when they were in the news :>
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68 2011-09-10 01:06:28 <k9quaint> you can't just print more bitcoins, you can print more zimbabwe dollars
69 2011-09-10 01:06:38 <wtfman> j/k .. but i find its a problem because most news are bad
70 2011-09-10 01:06:50 <k9quaint> thats good
71 2011-09-10 01:06:54 <wtfman> bitcoin needs more stories like a pizza for 20k BTC
72 2011-09-10 01:07:03 <wtfman> success stories
73 2011-09-10 01:07:06 <wtfman> not hacker stories
74 2011-09-10 01:07:20 <k9quaint> if we get lots of good news, morons will join and bitcoin can act like a democracy
75 2011-09-10 01:07:33 <k9quaint> if 51% of the hash power make a change, it sticks
76 2011-09-10 01:07:41 <k9quaint> or rather, it can stick
77 2011-09-10 01:08:02 <k9quaint> too much good news early on leads to the Eternal September for bitcoin
78 2011-09-10 01:08:25 <k9quaint> thank god solidcoin siphoned off a bunch into a cyst :P
79 2011-09-10 01:09:12 <wtfman> http://bitcoinpool.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=788
80 2011-09-10 01:09:35 <wtfman> what a news ..
81 2011-09-10 01:10:02 <k9quaint> the uninformed will look at that and say "bitcoin sucks!", and that is good
82 2011-09-10 01:10:15 <wtfman> but why is this good?
83 2011-09-10 01:10:22 <k9quaint> as long as bitcoin attracts people who are aware of it's strengths, it will continue to function
84 2011-09-10 01:10:32 <k9quaint> if it is overwhelmed by retards early on, it will die
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87 2011-09-10 01:11:32 <wtfman> it definitely needs more development
88 2011-09-10 01:11:39 <wtfman> not only the client, but services overall
89 2011-09-10 01:11:46 <Disposition> well if anything there needs to be more good information for aspiring developers
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91 2011-09-10 01:11:55 <Disposition> i could care less what the eventual "users" think
92 2011-09-10 01:12:04 <wtfman> dont mind the prize drop, I just hope difficulty will go down soon too
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94 2011-09-10 01:12:35 <k9quaint> Disposition: there needs to be a developer/clue bitcoin forum that has a timed IQ test as part of the registration phase :P
95 2011-09-10 01:12:41 <Disposition> I spoken to some other developers, some are put off about bitcoins simply because of the media, though they still support the core after I steered them into the right direction
96 2011-09-10 01:13:01 <Disposition> k9quaint: a developer only forum would be nice.
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98 2011-09-10 01:13:22 <Disposition> but since bitcoin is p2p to begin with
99 2011-09-10 01:13:26 <k9quaint> Disposition: glad you agree, let us know when we can sign up for your new developer oriented forums
100 2011-09-10 01:13:28 <Disposition> anything centralized seems silly.
101 2011-09-10 01:13:32 <noagendamarket> You should need to answer questions about bitcoin to join ?
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103 2011-09-10 01:13:50 <Disposition> k9quaint: not sure if srs :P
104 2011-09-10 01:13:56 <k9quaint> noagendamarket: no, you should need to complete difficult math problems to join
105 2011-09-10 01:14:03 <wtfman> oO
106 2011-09-10 01:14:06 <k9quaint> Disposition: I am also unsure if serious ;P
107 2011-09-10 01:14:11 <k9quaint> beer does that
108 2011-09-10 01:14:15 <noagendamarket> lol wolfram alpha ftw
109 2011-09-10 01:14:15 <Disposition> lol.
110 2011-09-10 01:14:43 <Disposition> I mean if bitcointalk doesn't come back online soon I'll make one I suppose
111 2011-09-10 01:14:54 <Disposition> but ovciously I don't just want to be "another forum"
112 2011-09-10 01:14:56 <Disposition> cuz that's stupid
113 2011-09-10 01:14:58 <Disposition> and purposeless
114 2011-09-10 01:15:04 <wtfman> go buy a vbulletin
115 2011-09-10 01:15:08 <k9quaint> you could probably farm google cache and recreate the whole history :P
116 2011-09-10 01:15:22 <wtfman> vbulletin = successssss
117 2011-09-10 01:15:32 <Disposition> I thought tht was ipboard
118 2011-09-10 01:15:49 <k9quaint> write your own forums in VB6 imo
119 2011-09-10 01:16:02 <k9quaint> god, that must be what hell looks like for software developers
120 2011-09-10 01:16:02 * Disposition doesn't know vb6
121 2011-09-10 01:16:04 <Disposition> LOL.
122 2011-09-10 01:16:30 <Disposition> pre dotnet 3.0 is toture.
123 2011-09-10 01:16:40 <Disposition> torture*
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125 2011-09-10 01:17:16 <k9quaint> I have only seen the boils and pustules that result from touching that stuff, I have never actually touched it myself
126 2011-09-10 01:21:32 <Disposition> make a bitcoindev sub reddit
127 2011-09-10 01:21:35 <Disposition> and call it a day :P
128 2011-09-10 01:21:45 <Disposition> I think I'll just do that instead
129 2011-09-10 01:22:41 <wtfman> i will wait for you bitcoin
130 2011-09-10 01:22:49 <wtfman> i will waaaaaaaaaaaaaaait for you
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135 2011-09-10 01:32:16 <wtfman> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ELzM_S573r8/SHxO2M3D8UI/AAAAAAAAGRs/PnIfOU-Eazc/s400/sell%2Band%2Bbuy.jpg
136 2011-09-10 01:37:27 <Diablo-D3> classic
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148 2011-09-10 02:00:37 <Disposition> I made the bitcoindev subreddit and gave it to Yifu Guo from Bit Navigator who will be covering the Open Video Conference tomorrow for now; feel free to suggest other moderators.
149 2011-09-10 02:01:23 <Diablo-D3> >bitcoin
150 2011-09-10 02:01:25 <Diablo-D3> >subreddit
151 2011-09-10 02:01:30 <Diablo-D3> whyyyyyyy
152 2011-09-10 02:02:20 <cjdelisle> to troll people
153 2011-09-10 02:02:45 <Diablo-D3> oh thats okay then
154 2011-09-10 02:02:46 <Disposition> ^, not to mention why reinvent the wheel.
155 2011-09-10 02:02:47 <Diablo-D3> continue
156 2011-09-10 02:03:13 <Disposition> since the forums is down, and a developer forum is needed.
157 2011-09-10 02:03:32 <Diablo-D3> as a developer
158 2011-09-10 02:03:34 <Diablo-D3> no we dont.
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160 2011-09-10 02:03:37 <Diablo-D3> github isnt down
161 2011-09-10 02:03:50 <cjdelisle> developers use a [REDACTED] which you only know about if you are a developer
162 2011-09-10 02:04:05 <Disposition> that's not exactly what I meant.
163 2011-09-10 02:04:29 <Disposition> the public doesn't know anything e.g. m-of-n proposal
164 2011-09-10 02:04:41 <Disposition> or w/e patches that was submitted, and no one talks about it.
165 2011-09-10 02:04:48 <Diablo-D3> Disposition: dude
166 2011-09-10 02:04:50 <Diablo-D3> fuck proposals
167 2011-09-10 02:04:54 <Diablo-D3> we only care about code
168 2011-09-10 02:04:58 <Disposition> ...
169 2011-09-10 02:05:03 <k9quaint> I propose to code
170 2011-09-10 02:05:09 <k9quaint> but it never gets signoff
171 2011-09-10 02:05:32 <Diablo-D3> Disposition: seriously, find master branch on github, press fork
172 2011-09-10 02:05:35 <cjdelisle> my first pull request was merged :]
173 2011-09-10 02:05:37 <Diablo-D3> code, press merge request
174 2011-09-10 02:05:59 <cjdelisle> it's huge and complex https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/509/files
175 2011-09-10 02:06:55 <Disposition> Diablo-D3: yeah that's how it works, I'm saying there needs to be more news regarding these merges and new patches
176 2011-09-10 02:07:04 <Diablo-D3> the real fun, though
177 2011-09-10 02:07:06 <Disposition> also, proposal becomes code.
178 2011-09-10 02:07:12 <Diablo-D3> is doing all your github shit from inside eclipse
179 2011-09-10 02:07:18 <Diablo-D3> github mylyn connector <#
180 2011-09-10 02:07:19 <Diablo-D3> er <3
181 2011-09-10 02:07:30 * cjdelisle uses gedit
182 2011-09-10 02:07:57 <cjdelisle> it may not be superior to eclipse but it is within the relm of my understanding
183 2011-09-10 02:08:13 <k9quaint> vim!
184 2011-09-10 02:08:20 <Disposition> vim here, unless I get lazy and use nano
185 2011-09-10 02:08:23 <cjdelisle> vim is complecated
186 2011-09-10 02:08:24 <Diablo-D3> I abuse the shit out of eclipse to the point that its no longer eclipse
187 2011-09-10 02:08:27 <Diablo-D3> vim is easy dude
188 2011-09-10 02:08:33 * Diablo-D3 used vim for over a decade
189 2011-09-10 02:08:51 <cjdelisle> It can be easy but there are a ton of features I don't know/use
190 2011-09-10 02:08:58 <k9quaint> vim = hit colon and then faceroll on the keyboard
191 2011-09-10 02:09:01 <cjdelisle> /want
192 2011-09-10 02:09:02 <Disposition> speaking of which Diablo-D3 http://i.imgur.com/5HC3f.jpg
193 2011-09-10 02:11:09 <Diablo-D3> my nick very famously predates blizzard entertainment, co.
194 2011-09-10 02:15:28 <cjdelisle> blizzard went downhill when it stopped being about owning little people and making them chop wood and stuff
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196 2011-09-10 02:17:15 <theymos> I have backups of all forum resources, so I could set up a clone of the Bitcoin forum anywhere in a few minutes. How long should I wait to do this? If Sirius gets my email, it can be done properly.
197 2011-09-10 02:18:15 <Disposition> can you forward to domain to some index.txt explaining to people who weren't around what happened?
198 2011-09-10 02:18:30 <theymos> No.
199 2011-09-10 02:18:34 <Disposition> why not.
200 2011-09-10 02:18:43 <k9quaint> theymos: wait until it can be done right
201 2011-09-10 02:18:51 <theymos> Because I don't have control over the DNS, and I can't access the server.
202 2011-09-10 02:19:15 <Disposition> just wait until you can set up correctly then
203 2011-09-10 02:19:25 <Disposition> or enable the maintance mode.
204 2011-09-10 02:19:38 <Disposition> or you can just remove that stupid smiley from the admin panel.
205 2011-09-10 02:19:57 <theymos> The HTTP server is down, and I can't bring it back up.
206 2011-09-10 02:20:38 <Disposition> oh balls.
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208 2011-09-10 02:21:10 <Disposition> oh there you are.
209 2011-09-10 02:22:31 * k9quaint scratches out the pentagram and cleans up the goat blood
210 2011-09-10 02:23:01 <k9quaint> ok, one sirius produced, that will be 10BTC for the summoning and the binding to your will is free with groupon
211 2011-09-10 02:23:09 <noagendamarket> Its not a bad thing that the forums are down :)
212 2011-09-10 02:23:23 <noagendamarket> its a cesspool
213 2011-09-10 02:23:26 <Diablo-D3> the forums were shitty anyhow
214 2011-09-10 02:23:31 <Diablo-D3> even my superior mod poewrs couldnt stop it
215 2011-09-10 02:23:36 <Diablo-D3> theymos wouldnt let me ban people
216 2011-09-10 02:23:41 <noagendamarket> lol
217 2011-09-10 02:23:53 * noagendamarket votes D3 as head mod
218 2011-09-10 02:24:04 <noagendamarket> get rid of the douchebags
219 2011-09-10 02:24:15 * Diablo-D3 starts with luke
220 2011-09-10 02:24:17 <Disposition> add like a voting system
221 2011-09-10 02:24:22 <noagendamarket> ahaha\
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223 2011-09-10 02:25:26 <Namegduf> Disposition: I recommend trying to found an Internet community and run it like a democracy
224 2011-09-10 02:25:33 <Namegduf> Disposition: Before suggesting it to others
225 2011-09-10 02:25:34 <Namegduf> :P
226 2011-09-10 02:25:43 <k9quaint> the forums hit Eternal September a while back
227 2011-09-10 02:26:06 <noagendamarket> they suffered the "evaporative cooling effect"
228 2011-09-10 02:26:35 <Namegduf> The evaporative cooling effect indicates a moderation failure
229 2011-09-10 02:26:47 <Namegduf> The principal role of a moderator is to prevent it
230 2011-09-10 02:26:53 <Namegduf> By stopping the community from sucking such that it occurs
231 2011-09-10 02:26:58 <noagendamarket> Just forward the domain to bitcoin.co.uk
232 2011-09-10 02:27:15 <noagendamarket> Vladamir will kick their asses
233 2011-09-10 02:27:34 <k9quaint> bladamir could't kick his own ass
234 2011-09-10 02:27:38 <noagendamarket> lolo
235 2011-09-10 02:28:00 <noagendamarket> The forum isnt shit
236 2011-09-10 02:28:17 <k9quaint> man, the goons are turning #bitcoin into an awesome display of chaos
237 2011-09-10 02:28:23 <noagendamarket> ya
238 2011-09-10 02:28:41 <k9quaint> noagendamarket: your lack the faculties to determine what is and what isn't shit
239 2011-09-10 02:29:10 <noagendamarket> Shit = bitcointalk
240 2011-09-10 02:29:38 <Disposition> Namegduf: nope, didn't suggest it to others, I think I'm just gonna repost all the development news on it, and local coverage
241 2011-09-10 02:29:47 <Disposition> such as the open video conference tomorrow
242 2011-09-10 02:30:13 <Disposition> instead of drama, or some fox news article
243 2011-09-10 02:30:25 <Disposition> and try to cover all the meet up and conferences
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245 2011-09-10 02:30:43 <cjdelisle> btcban
246 2011-09-10 02:31:25 <cjdelisle> for each user on the forum, add a bitcoin address, once a week the address with the most money in it, that user is banned
247 2011-09-10 02:31:33 <noagendamarket> heh
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260 2011-09-10 02:55:35 <kjj> ok, I guess I was wrong. the Cosby infestation in #bitcoin was an improvement.
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266 2011-09-10 03:10:59 <DaQatz> beer
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268 2011-09-10 03:23:09 <noagendamarket> http://solidcointalk.org/topic/192-announcement-cosbycoins/
269 2011-09-10 03:23:10 <noagendamarket> http://bitcoinmedia.com/announcement-cosbycoins
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290 2011-09-10 04:00:45 <gribble> gavinandresen was last seen in #bitcoin-dev 8 hours, 9 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <gavinandresen> yeah, forum looks just fine to me (in Chrome)
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301 2011-09-10 04:23:15 <CIA-101> poolserverj: shadders * 469d3f6e76b4 r45 /src/main/java/com/shadworld/poolserver/ (5 files in 2 dirs): - added a temporary logger to record all stages of submission where a real solution is found.
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312 2011-09-10 04:55:16 <lfm> ;;bc,stats
313 2011-09-10 04:55:19 <gribble> Current Blocks: 144721 | Current Difficulty: 1777774.4820015 | Next Difficulty At Block: 145151 | Next Difficulty In: 430 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 0 hours, 8 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1784503.15362704
314 2011-09-10 04:55:54 <lfm> still seems to be even money if the difficulty will go up or down this time.
315 2011-09-10 04:56:32 <lfm> ;;bc,spotestimate
316 2011-09-10 04:56:33 <gribble> 1778786.01983
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334 2011-09-10 06:17:35 <ymirhotfoot> ;;ticker
335 2011-09-10 06:17:36 <gribble> Best bid: 5.2485, Best ask: 5.24867, Bid-ask spread: 0.00017, Last trade: 5.24849, 24 hour volume: 192314, 24 hour low: 4.18, 24 hour high: 6.19936
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357 2011-09-10 06:46:37 <ymirhotfoot> ;;ticker
358 2011-09-10 06:46:38 <gribble> Best bid: 5.24997, Best ask: 5.25, Bid-ask spread: 2.99999999998e-05, Last trade: 5.24998, 24 hour volume: 191317, 24 hour low: 4.18, 24 hour high: 6.1
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371 2011-09-10 07:13:41 <ymirhotfoot> BlueMatt and tcatm, thak you for published copies of the blockchain!
372 2011-09-10 07:14:01 <ymirhotfoot> ;;ticker
373 2011-09-10 07:14:02 <gribble> Best bid: 5.24997, Best ask: 5.24998, Bid-ask spread: 9.99999999962e-06, Last trade: 5.24997, 24 hour volume: 191244, 24 hour low: 4.18, 24 hour high: 6.1
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386 2011-09-10 07:38:44 <shadders> any idea's why a bitcoind 0.3.24 would fail to return a verack message? client connects, sends version, receives version, sends verack, then the bitcoind just starts sending addr and inv messages but never the last verack
387 2011-09-10 07:40:09 <shadders> protocol version 31800 (using bitcoinj)
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394 2011-09-10 08:05:11 <lfm> shadders: I think you read the spec wrong. it wont send another verack
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396 2011-09-10 08:07:14 <sirius> The forum is being relocated and should be up some time today. There was an exploit that allowed to upload javascript as a smiley and embed it. The database should be safe.
397 2011-09-10 08:10:28 <shadders> lfm: so only client side is meant to send a verack?
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399 2011-09-10 08:11:33 <shadders> lfm: was going on bitcoinj connection code:
400 2011-09-10 08:11:34 <shadders> // Send an ACK message stating we accept the peers protocol version.
401 2011-09-10 08:11:35 <shadders> writeMessage(new VersionAck());
402 2011-09-10 08:11:35 <shadders> // And get one back ...
403 2011-09-10 08:11:35 <shadders> readMessage();
404 2011-09-10 08:12:09 <shadders> I notice it doesn't actually check what message type it got back...
405 2011-09-10 08:12:25 <lfm> the reply to the first version is the second version, not a verack
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407 2011-09-10 08:15:42 <shadders> lfm: just checked and one of the unit tests for bitcoinj gets a verack back after it sends it's verack...
408 2011-09-10 08:16:12 <shadders> I think there's something squiffy with my wire serialization...
409 2011-09-10 08:16:21 <lfm> well if they both accept the other's version of the protocol, then which one will they use?
410 2011-09-10 08:19:51 <shadders> good point... though atm I think I've got worse problems than that...
411 2011-09-10 08:20:10 <shadders> subVer is getting mangled "BitCoinJ 0.3-SNAPSHO" <- should end with T
412 2011-09-10 08:20:32 <shadders> and 0 block height is ending up as: blocks=1131702594
413 2011-09-10 08:21:06 <lfm> doesnt sound good, you see the "U" in front of the BitCoinJ there?
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416 2011-09-10 08:21:31 <lfm> its reverse video on my screen
417 2011-09-10 08:21:37 <shadders> Is it a U? I just a square box with
418 2011-09-10 08:21:42 <shadders> 0 0
419 2011-09-10 08:21:44 <shadders> 1 5
420 2011-09-10 08:21:57 <lfm> ya some sorta control char I guess
421 2011-09-10 08:23:07 <shadders> might have an offset 1 less than it should be... or maybe not decoding varstring length properly
422 2011-09-10 08:23:58 <lfm> i know how that serialization can get tricky to get it just right
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425 2011-09-10 08:27:07 <noagendamarket> http://forum.bitcoin.com.au/ if youre suffering forum withdrawal.
426 2011-09-10 08:32:57 <lfm> that just teases withdrawal
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443 2011-09-10 08:58:05 <Blitzboom> http://cosbycoin.com/
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445 2011-09-10 08:58:41 <cacheson> I'm going through cosby withdrawal
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447 2011-09-10 08:59:06 <cacheson> will bitcointalk still have the new features when it comes back up?
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449 2011-09-10 09:06:24 <AnnihilaT> perhaps we should add some cosby to: https://bitcoin.org.uk/forums/
450 2011-09-10 09:06:32 <AnnihilaT> to help you out a bit
451 2011-09-10 09:06:39 <AnnihilaT> i know its a tough habit to kick
452 2011-09-10 09:10:29 <cacheson> AnnihilaT: :D
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468 2011-09-10 10:01:37 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: hearn@google.com * r201 /trunk/src/com/google/bitcoin/core/PeerGroup.java: Remove stray import. Gotta love IDEs. Resolves issue 78.
469 2011-09-10 10:02:18 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: hearn@google.com * r202 /trunk/README: Update README.
470 2011-09-10 10:03:50 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: hearn@google.com * r203 /trunk/src/com/google/bitcoin/core/Sha256Hash.java: Add a serialVersionUID to Sha256Hash. Resolves issue 77.
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473 2011-09-10 10:05:14 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: hearn@google.com * r204 /trunk/src/com/google/bitcoin/core/PeerGroup.java: Tweak PeerGroup thread priority. Resolves issue 67.
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490 2011-09-10 10:55:52 <shadders> *sigh* fixed serialization issue... wasn't the problem..
491 2011-09-10 10:56:03 * shadders wonders how long it take to build wireshark
492 2011-09-10 10:58:08 <lianj> only one way to find out :P
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496 2011-09-10 11:03:25 <shadders> I was finding out when I wrote that... I'm still finding out ;)
497 2011-09-10 11:03:52 <shadders> sources are about 170mb
498 2011-09-10 11:05:28 <lianj> what OS are you on, is there no pkg already?
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500 2011-09-10 11:07:25 <shadders> ubuntu - building it with bitcoin-dissector
501 2011-09-10 11:08:00 <shadders> there is a package but I've never used it before and wouldn't have a clue how to import the dissector...
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503 2011-09-10 11:08:11 <lianj> ah ok
504 2011-09-10 11:08:11 <shadders> don't even know it's possible without building
505 2011-09-10 11:08:20 <shadders> just finished...
506 2011-09-10 11:08:27 <lianj> yay :D
507 2011-09-10 11:08:46 <shadders> now how the hell do I start it... :S
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512 2011-09-10 11:19:10 <CIA-101> libbitcoin: genjix * r23b10e6c4090 / (4 files in 3 dirs): Fixed unit test by having configurable barrier settings.
513 2011-09-10 11:19:10 <CIA-101> libbitcoin: genjix * r70eefca1e587 /doc/scripts/ (4 files): Python showcase scripts.
514 2011-09-10 11:19:11 <CIA-101> libbitcoin: genjix * rf8dc06720daa / (4 files in 3 dirs): check_block() and accept_block()
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518 2011-09-10 11:26:41 <shadders> so anyone actually using bitcoin dissector?
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520 2011-09-10 11:34:14 <shadders> compiled with patch but can't see bitcoin in the protocol list'
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522 2011-09-10 11:40:13 <lfm> shadders: does it snoop packets?
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524 2011-09-10 11:42:33 <shadders> yeah... I presume the dissector actually breaks down the packets
525 2011-09-10 11:43:04 <shadders> I can see the raw hex data but it's not even split by message so it's pretty hard to read...
526 2011-09-10 11:44:26 <shadders> I want to compare what mine sends over the wire compared to bitcoinj... using all bitcoinj code except I'm using netty for transport where bitcoinj uses blocking IO sockets
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528 2011-09-10 11:44:42 <shadders> something down there is messing it up I think...
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593 2011-09-10 14:16:33 <gribble> Current Blocks: 144774 | Current Difficulty: 1777774.4820015 | Next Difficulty At Block: 145151 | Next Difficulty In: 377 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 15 hours, 40 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1782313.35559546
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599 2011-09-10 14:28:32 <gribble> Best bid: 5.15, Best ask: 5.195, Bid-ask spread: 0.045, Last trade: 5.199, 24 hour volume: 122708, 24 hour low: 4.18, 24 hour high: 5.495
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632 2011-09-10 15:51:06 <luke-jr> fwiw, list of authors of over 100 bitcoin patches, sorted by patch count: Con Kolivas, Gavin Andresen, Amir Taaki, "Kiba", Satoshi Nakamoto, Jeff Garzik, David FRANCOIS, Luke Dashjr, Pavel Karoukin, Nils Schneider, "davux", John Tobey, Daniel Folkinshteyn, Patrick McFarland, Patrick Strateman, Matt Corallo, Pieter Wuille, "m0mchil", "Artefact2", Ehud Ben-Reuven
633 2011-09-10 15:51:33 <Optimo> congrats to the contributors
634 2011-09-10 15:51:37 <Optimo> and thanks
635 2011-09-10 15:52:12 <luke-jr> conman obviously works very hard on cgminer O.o
636 2011-09-10 15:52:16 <phantomcircuit> luke-jr, and amir is no longer on bitcoin.org
637 2011-09-10 15:52:18 <phantomcircuit> yeah
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639 2011-09-10 15:52:21 <phantomcircuit> no politics there at all
640 2011-09-10 15:53:04 * luke-jr notes sipa really deserves to be on the list, and he's #17
641 2011-09-10 15:53:18 <luke-jr> (Pieter Wuille)
642 2011-09-10 15:53:36 <Diablo-D3> yeah
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644 2011-09-10 15:54:00 <Diablo-D3> btw, how did you do patch count?
645 2011-09-10 15:54:09 <Diablo-D3> because it seems strange ck has such a high patch count
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647 2011-09-10 15:54:46 <luke-jr> Diablo-D3: find -type d -name '*.git' | while read r; do export GIT_DIR="$PWD/$r"; git branch | cut -b 3- | while read b; do git log --format=format:'%H %aN%n' "$b"; done; done | sort | uniq | cut -b 42- | sort | uniq -c | sort -n
648 2011-09-10 15:55:01 <luke-jr> within BitGit's root
649 2011-09-10 15:55:12 <Diablo-D3> huh
650 2011-09-10 15:55:21 <Diablo-D3> conman: you commit shit entirely too much
651 2011-09-10 15:55:24 <luke-jr> LOl
652 2011-09-10 15:57:03 <luke-jr> cgminer *does* have more commits than the SC
653 2011-09-10 15:57:06 <luke-jr> Satoshi Client*
654 2011-09-10 15:57:43 <luke-jr> looking through cgminer's commits, they seem quite sanely done (as I would have expected from conman)
655 2011-09-10 15:58:04 <luke-jr> one might argue Satoshi's initial commit should count as more than one though
656 2011-09-10 15:58:17 * luke-jr wonders if a LOC analysis would be worthwhile
657 2011-09-10 16:03:53 <Optimo> whoever has the most curly braces wins
658 2011-09-10 16:04:01 <Optimo> duh
659 2011-09-10 16:04:14 <luke-jr> Optimo: well, to eliminate dupes across branches, it'd have to hash each line and compare ;)
660 2011-09-10 16:04:25 <luke-jr> and curly braces will only hash to one thing
661 2011-09-10 16:04:30 <Optimo> I put my open-brace on a newline ;p
662 2011-09-10 16:05:01 <Optimo> the ages-old debate
663 2011-09-10 16:06:57 <luke-jr> Optimo: { will only hash once
664 2011-09-10 16:07:06 <luke-jr> trivial in the big picture
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668 2011-09-10 16:07:22 <Optimo> true
669 2011-09-10 16:07:22 <luke-jr> the problem I hit is, git blame requires working trees
670 2011-09-10 16:08:24 <Optimo> somehow I've been duped into playing the IT guy today and I have to clean 2 PCs that got rootkit'd >< pray for me
671 2011-09-10 16:08:48 <Optimo> (I would charge mega $ but it's family)
672 2011-09-10 16:09:37 <luke-jr> Optimo: that's easy
673 2011-09-10 16:09:43 <luke-jr> it's just a fresh Debian install, right?
674 2011-09-10 16:09:50 <Optimo> heheh
675 2011-09-10 16:09:56 <Optimo> if only..
676 2011-09-10 16:10:14 <luke-jr> that's the only sane way to clean up a rootkit
677 2011-09-10 16:10:16 <Optimo> more than likely is Vista MY GAWD WHY
678 2011-09-10 16:10:54 <luke-jr> I refuse to support family who uses Windows :D
679 2011-09-10 16:10:55 <Optimo> it probably involves a pirate dvd of vista so I can do it as quick as possible -fresh install
680 2011-09-10 16:11:02 <luke-jr> XD
681 2011-09-10 16:11:12 <Optimo> hoefully before teh sun goes down
682 2011-09-10 16:11:18 <luke-jr> yeah, if I did support it, I probably would use pirated copies just to avoid the activation hassle
683 2011-09-10 16:11:33 <zeropointo> Optimo: atleast upgrade them to win7
684 2011-09-10 16:11:55 <Optimo> zeropointo: well they are family == retarded
685 2011-09-10 16:12:02 <Optimo> I don't want to train them
686 2011-09-10 16:12:11 <Optimo> I just want to finish and go camping
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688 2011-09-10 16:13:23 <cjdelisle> free tech support is a trap
689 2011-09-10 16:13:30 <Optimo> I know it is
690 2011-09-10 16:13:57 <Optimo> once a year is not terrible tho.. in exchange I get a fully prepared thanksgiving meal supposedly
691 2011-09-10 16:14:06 <cjdelisle> liability insurance isn't free so why should computer repair?
692 2011-09-10 16:14:17 <Optimo> barter for food
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694 2011-09-10 16:14:25 <Optimo> me fix vista for grub
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696 2011-09-10 16:15:08 <cjdelisle> the problem is they use shitty software and they need someone to blame
697 2011-09-10 16:15:22 <cjdelisle> and they have your phone number and they don't have bill gates's
698 2011-09-10 16:15:24 <Optimo> one thing I am doing for sure is moving them to chrome from firefox
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700 2011-09-10 16:15:43 <Optimo> firefox was the former savior, now a target
701 2011-09-10 16:15:48 <Optimo> (probably how they got rootkit)
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703 2011-09-10 16:15:58 * cjdelisle uses FF
704 2011-09-10 16:16:04 <cjdelisle> w/noscript
705 2011-09-10 16:16:50 <Optimo> merry coining all
706 2011-09-10 16:16:59 <cjdelisle> There are a lot of attacks out there but heap spraying with javascript is just so easy that noscript generally 0wns
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710 2011-09-10 16:21:04 <luke-jr> Optimo: don't forget to put GPU miners in them all
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744 2011-09-10 17:19:22 <sytse> ;;bc,stats
745 2011-09-10 17:19:25 <gribble> Current Blocks: 144788 | Current Difficulty: 1777774.4820015 | Next Difficulty At Block: 145151 | Next Difficulty In: 363 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 13 hours, 24 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1776625.43092457
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747 2011-09-10 17:20:20 <sytse> hm, almost everybody seems to just go on mining even though it's no longer profitable at the spot price without ridiculous hardware
748 2011-09-10 17:21:56 <k9quaint> sytse: it depends on how much you pay for electricity
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750 2011-09-10 17:26:06 <denisx> is there c code to calculate the difficulty as double from the hex value in the getwork?
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756 2011-09-10 17:36:14 <leetcharmer> Difficulty goes down when less people are mining, correct?
757 2011-09-10 17:36:47 <phantomcircuit> yes
758 2011-09-10 17:37:16 <phantomcircuit> ;;bc,calc 145151-144788
759 2011-09-10 17:37:17 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 145151-144788 Khps, given current difficulty of 1777774.4820015 , is 0 seconds
760 2011-09-10 17:37:21 <phantomcircuit> er
761 2011-09-10 17:37:29 <phantomcircuit> ;;calc 145151-144788
762 2011-09-10 17:37:29 <gribble> 145Â 151 - 144Â 788 = 363
763 2011-09-10 17:37:36 <phantomcircuit> ;;bc,calc 145151-144788 * 10 minutes
764 2011-09-10 17:37:37 <gribble> Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
765 2011-09-10 17:37:40 <phantomcircuit> ;;bc,calc 145151-144788 * 10
766 2011-09-10 17:37:41 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 145151-144788 * 10 Khps, given current difficulty of 1777774.4820015 , is 0 seconds
767 2011-09-10 17:37:46 <phantomcircuit> nvm
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780 2011-09-10 18:13:27 <xelister> what is going own with #bitcoin
781 2011-09-10 18:13:30 <xelister> who's in charge
782 2011-09-10 18:13:34 <iocor> yo
783 2011-09-10 18:13:43 <iocor> that'd be me, and you need to give me five bitcoins :)
784 2011-09-10 18:13:52 * xelister pokes nanotube
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787 2011-09-10 18:17:03 <phantomcircuit> xelister, sigh i guess i am
788 2011-09-10 18:18:08 <xelister> phantomcircuit: should we set some rules about cosbycoin?
789 2011-09-10 18:18:24 <phantomcircuit> no spamming
790 2011-09-10 18:18:29 <xelister> freedom of speach rocks, on the same time the channel can not drawn in crap
791 2011-09-10 18:18:31 <phantomcircuit> other than that i dont think so
792 2011-09-10 18:18:56 <phantomcircuit> if it continues for too long i'll just direct people to #cosbycoin
793 2011-09-10 18:18:59 <xelister> perhaps there should be some advanced channel with only pro talk and serious supporters...
794 2011-09-10 18:19:03 <xelister> well I guess this is what this -dev is.
795 2011-09-10 18:19:57 <b4epoch__> have to set up a secret room like iphone jailbreakers did
796 2011-09-10 18:20:32 <b4epoch__> wow⦠my tail is growing
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803 2011-09-10 18:30:13 <genjix> i've been organising a uk bitcoin meetup... http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Project:Bitcoin/Bitcoin_Meeting_2011-09-24#Day_0_schedule
804 2011-09-10 18:30:29 <genjix> we have bitcoin cake, bitcoin song, economists and a documentary showing as well as the talks :)
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810 2011-09-10 18:32:31 <genjix> it's an open event
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813 2011-09-10 18:35:21 <xelister> genjix: entry is free? whos paying for organization
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815 2011-09-10 18:37:34 <phantomcircuit> xelister, why would anybody need to be paid for organization?
816 2011-09-10 18:37:52 <genjix> xelister: yes it is free
817 2011-09-10 18:38:22 <xelister> phantomcircuit: cathering, conference space, tables/chairs, audivideo, cake, etc dpeending whats pallne
818 2011-09-10 18:38:36 <phantomcircuit> lol catering
819 2011-09-10 18:38:37 <phantomcircuit> xD
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821 2011-09-10 18:38:43 <xelister> dunno whats included
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827 2011-09-10 18:40:17 <genjix> it's sponsored by the people providing us the space :) i'm sonsoring the cake
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829 2011-09-10 18:41:26 <xelister> will the cake be goxed? :P
830 2011-09-10 18:41:34 <xelister> after all we all know what cake is
831 2011-09-10 18:41:49 <genjix> i dont get it
832 2011-09-10 18:41:54 <xelister> lie
833 2011-09-10 18:42:00 <xelister> the cake is a lie
834 2011-09-10 18:42:11 <genjix> cake pan will be greased with the skin of a child
835 2011-09-10 18:42:28 <genjix> and topped with some lovely man cream
836 2011-09-10 18:42:36 <phantomcircuit> ew
837 2011-09-10 18:42:50 * xelister vomits
838 2011-09-10 18:42:54 <xelister> wtf genjix
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840 2011-09-10 18:43:11 <xelister> yo p0s
841 2011-09-10 18:43:43 <luke-jr> list of authors of over 100 bitcoin patches, sorted by patch count: Con Kolivas, Gavin Andresen, Amir Taaki, "Kiba", Satoshi Nakamoto, Jeff Garzik, David FRANCOIS, Luke Dashjr, Pavel Karoukin, Nils Schneider, "davux", John Tobey, Daniel Folkinshteyn, Patrick McFarland, Patrick Strateman, Matt Corallo, Pieter Wuille, "m0mchil", "Artefact2", Ehud Ben-Reuven
842 2011-09-10 18:43:53 <luke-jr> in case anyone missed it :P
843 2011-09-10 18:44:10 <gavinandresen> who is con kolivas?
844 2011-09-10 18:44:16 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: conman, cgminer
845 2011-09-10 18:44:42 <gavinandresen> how do you decide which bitcoin projects are worthy of counting?
846 2011-09-10 18:44:50 <luke-jr> I don't, I count them all.
847 2011-09-10 18:44:57 <luke-jr> at least all I know about
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849 2011-09-10 18:45:12 <gavinandresen> ... so if somebody wanted CosbyCoin to be on the list, all they'd need to do is fork a git repo and then....
850 2011-09-10 18:45:30 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: obvious troll attempts would I presume be obvious
851 2011-09-10 18:45:31 <phantomcircuit> cosbycoin totally counts
852 2011-09-10 18:45:39 <gavinandresen> Mmm.
853 2011-09-10 18:45:58 <luke-jr> also, since it's per-commit, a single commit renaming everything wouldn't do much
854 2011-09-10 18:46:05 <tcatm> gavinandresen: I got parsing contributors/collaborators data from github working to create a git-scm like list
855 2011-09-10 18:46:18 <gavinandresen> tcatm: nice!
856 2011-09-10 18:46:20 <genjix> xelister: http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Project:Bitcoin/Bitcoin_Meeting_2011-09-24#Features
857 2011-09-10 18:46:26 <genjix> don't be mad.
858 2011-09-10 18:46:26 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: FWIW, I did look at conman's commits, and they all look rather sensible. ;)
859 2011-09-10 18:46:31 <genjix> mad from jealousy.
860 2011-09-10 18:46:46 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: I'm just always looking for ways "they" will try to hack things.
861 2011-09-10 18:46:54 <luke-jr> tcatm: but that leaves out everyone who doesn't work on the Satoshi Client
862 2011-09-10 18:47:03 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: well, this list need not be automated ;)
863 2011-09-10 18:47:19 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: a human can update it monthly or something, verifying it looks sane
864 2011-09-10 18:47:45 <tcatm> luke-jr: it's pretty flexible so you could add a 2nd repo and it will merge the data correctly
865 2011-09-10 18:48:23 <gavinandresen> Mmm. I still want a "these are the people who contributed to the satoshi client" list. Hopefully in a year there will be too many bitcoin-related projects to even find them all, let along figure out who commited what/when/where
866 2011-09-10 18:48:28 <xelister> genjix: if I see a huge mtgox banner at this even
867 2011-09-10 18:48:32 <xelister> then I think we failed
868 2011-09-10 18:48:43 <luke-jr> tcatm: there's like 100
869 2011-09-10 18:48:44 <phantomcircuit> we will gladly accept all peoples moneyz
870 2011-09-10 18:48:44 <xelister> we are totally centralized around mtgox (they bought the forums?!)
871 2011-09-10 18:48:54 <genjix> xelister: how about a giant person dressed as a bitcoin :)
872 2011-09-10 18:49:05 <phantomcircuit> genjix, zomg yes
873 2011-09-10 18:49:09 <xelister> which is twice bad as mtgox is not particullary competent eg in security
874 2011-09-10 18:49:10 <xelister> genjix: good =)
875 2011-09-10 18:49:14 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: a page like that belongs on a S.C.-specific site, not a general Bitcoin site
876 2011-09-10 18:49:18 <phantomcircuit> lol i just realized
877 2011-09-10 18:49:25 <phantomcircuit> shipping this desktop is going to be a bitch
878 2011-09-10 18:49:28 <tcatm> luke-jr: so the script could query those 100 repos if we decide to count their commits, too
879 2011-09-10 18:49:42 <luke-jr> xelister: MtGox is very competent in security
880 2011-09-10 18:49:53 <phantomcircuit> luke-jr, loll
881 2011-09-10 18:49:55 <luke-jr> tcatm: shrug, my script is pretty simple :p
882 2011-09-10 18:49:59 <xelister> luke-jr: this must be why everyones emails where leaked to internet lolol
883 2011-09-10 18:50:01 <luke-jr> Diablo-D3: find -type d -name '*.git' | while read r; do export GIT_DIR="$PWD/$r"; git branch | cut -b 3- | while read b; do git log --format=format:'%H %aN%n' "$b"; done; done | sort | uniq | cut -b 42- | sort | uniq -c | sort -n
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887 2011-09-10 18:50:14 <luke-jr> phantomcircuit: don't sink to xelister's level :p
888 2011-09-10 18:50:25 <luke-jr> anyhow, time for me to go
889 2011-09-10 18:50:28 <phantomcircuit> lolllll
890 2011-09-10 18:50:28 <luke-jr> ttyl
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892 2011-09-10 18:50:32 <genjix> cya luke-jr
893 2011-09-10 18:50:36 <xelister> luke-jr: once you said mtgox is competent we all know you are trolling as always =)
894 2011-09-10 18:50:47 <luke-jr> MtGox *is* competent.
895 2011-09-10 18:51:10 <phantomcircuit> i have a bridge you might be interested in
896 2011-09-10 18:51:18 <xelister> luke-jr: can you troll in #bitcoin instead? would be good to have one quality channel.
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898 2011-09-10 18:52:26 <mabus> /j #bitcoin-quality
899 2011-09-10 18:52:37 <gavinandresen> So is there a definitive answer on how the forums were hacked? WAS it a flash exploit?
900 2011-09-10 18:53:38 <phantomcircuit> how could it possibly have been a flash exploit?
901 2011-09-10 18:53:48 <genjix> gavinandresen: you could insert js in the smileys
902 2011-09-10 18:54:04 <gavinandresen> ... so just javascript insertion in an uploaded file
903 2011-09-10 18:54:05 <phantomcircuit> genjix, i dont think that's it either
904 2011-09-10 18:54:10 <phantomcircuit> final.js was included after </html> on every page
905 2011-09-10 18:54:29 <jrmithdobbs> genjix: no after talking with theymos last night that's just a bunch of FUD
906 2011-09-10 18:54:31 <genjix> phantomcircuit: nope? that's what srs said today
907 2011-09-10 18:54:38 <genjix> ah ok
908 2011-09-10 18:54:41 <phantomcircuit> i dont think he's correct
909 2011-09-10 18:54:47 <phantomcircuit> i think that was a bit of misdirection
910 2011-09-10 18:55:06 <jrmithdobbs> ya, i'm pretty sure it was a problem in their mods to smf 1.1.14 and the fact that they had a writable doc root
911 2011-09-10 18:55:13 <phantomcircuit> actually i suspect they had a rootkit since when theymos tried to restart sshd it crashed
912 2011-09-10 18:55:34 <jrmithdobbs> ya, good chance the whole thing was compromised
913 2011-09-10 18:55:36 <genjix> ok
914 2011-09-10 18:55:38 <genjix> cya
915 2011-09-10 18:55:39 <phantomcircuit> but that is just speculation
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918 2011-09-10 18:56:19 <denisx> what happened? did I miss something?
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920 2011-09-10 18:56:47 <phantomcircuit> no you did not
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922 2011-09-10 18:57:53 <cjdelisle> cosbycoin was an inside job, nevar forget
923 2011-09-10 18:58:16 <jrmithdobbs> http://cosbycoin.com
924 2011-09-10 18:58:19 <jrmithdobbs> puddin pops for all
925 2011-09-10 18:58:50 <cjdelisle> jrmithdobbs: are you planning on using the satoshi genesys block in the "cosbycoin chain" because that would be massive lols
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927 2011-09-10 18:59:05 <Guest24106> there was a lot of good developer material on the forum. How do we access that?
928 2011-09-10 18:59:10 <jrmithdobbs> cjdelisle: it is 100% chain and p2p compatible
929 2011-09-10 18:59:13 <Guest24106> are there plans to bring the forum back up ?
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932 2011-09-10 18:59:42 <cjdelisle> jrmithdobbs: so it's just bitcoin with a different name?
933 2011-09-10 18:59:59 <cjdelisle> realsolid is gonna be mad
934 2011-09-10 19:00:30 <jrmithdobbs> no it's a fully interoperable crypto currency powered by the hilarity of The Cos
935 2011-09-10 19:00:36 <jrmithdobbs> it's all about framing it
936 2011-09-10 19:00:51 <cjdelisle> sure sure
937 2011-09-10 19:01:08 <cjdelisle> it has my good trolling stamp of approval
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944 2011-09-10 19:11:16 <forrestv> gavinandresen, my bitcoind just hung, and i was running with DEBUG_LOCKORDER ... see http://pastebin.com/7cwiCUu6 for stack traces and a portion of the debug.log
945 2011-09-10 19:11:34 <gavinandresen> forrestv: what version of bitcoin?
946 2011-09-10 19:11:44 <forrestv> latest version from the bitcoin repo
947 2011-09-10 19:11:54 <gavinandresen> thanks
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949 2011-09-10 19:13:13 <Guest24106> is the forum going to be back up at some point ?
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953 2011-09-10 19:13:33 <gavinandresen> at some point... might take a day or four
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955 2011-09-10 19:13:45 <Guest24106> ok. thx
956 2011-09-10 19:14:10 <tcatm> try out the bitcoin stackexchange :)
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958 2011-09-10 19:15:22 <Guest24106> oh yeah, i'll check it out
959 2011-09-10 19:16:14 <AnnihilaT> or bitcoin.org.uk
960 2011-09-10 19:16:15 <cosurgi> tcatm: currency selector is nice. How with a single click can I see only PLN ?
961 2011-09-10 19:16:18 <AnnihilaT> another nice forum
962 2011-09-10 19:16:29 <Guest24106> luckily i had some tabs open with some of casacuis work
963 2011-09-10 19:16:48 <cosurgi> tcatm: unselecting 20 other currencies is quite a lot of work
964 2011-09-10 19:16:53 <Guest24106> keep me busy for a few days on fun stuff
965 2011-09-10 19:17:05 <tcatm> cosurgi: it will be improved with the next release
966 2011-09-10 19:18:24 <Guest24106> there is good history on the board we cant get anywhere else right now :(
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968 2011-09-10 19:25:12 <gavinandresen> forrestv: I don't see the deadlock. According to the gdb traces, the locks at lines 1531 and 1340 are involved, but I don't see how they could deadlock-- for both, only the cs_vNodes mutex is held.
969 2011-09-10 19:27:27 <forrestv> gavinandresen, it wasn't really a deadlock, i don't think .. lines like the ones in the debug.log snippet were being output really fast
970 2011-09-10 19:27:35 <forrestv> continuously
971 2011-09-10 19:28:05 <gavinandresen> ... yes, if you run -debug compiled with -DDEBUG_LOCKORDER every mutex lock/unlock is reported
972 2011-09-10 19:28:41 <forrestv> ah, grah ... yeah, a while after i resumed it it started responding again
973 2011-09-10 19:28:56 <gavinandresen> ok, phew, good.
974 2011-09-10 19:29:12 <forrestv> sorry!
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998 2011-09-10 20:37:05 <diki> what is the formula for expected generation?
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1000 2011-09-10 20:37:35 <diki> expected generation per day i mean
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1002 2011-09-10 20:40:39 <YifuGuo> Hello I'm at the Open Video Conference Alterantive Currency Model Session now, here are the notes so far https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hDkqwzqm0UpsSW60kTpSDKiCD1TM0S-PKGXFboP_gnA/edit?hl=en_US
1003 2011-09-10 20:42:37 <altamic> diki: The difficulty is automatically adjusted regularly so that the number of solutions found globally, by everyone, is constant: an average of 6 per hour. Hence 6 * 24 per day
1004 2011-09-10 20:43:04 <diki> lolwut?
1005 2011-09-10 20:43:10 <diki> that was not my question altamic
1006 2011-09-10 20:43:19 <altamic> sorry
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1008 2011-09-10 20:49:53 <RAWRwins254> Hey guys. I would like to be able to have transactions work (such as with p2pool) in the windows bitcoin binary. Is this a possibility at all?
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1011 2011-09-10 20:55:41 <JFK911> sure why not
1012 2011-09-10 20:57:53 <RAWRwins254> I honestly don't want to have to switch to Linux as my Main OS as some of my games and applications rely on windows-only programs. (I play EVE Online and run EVEHQ as an EVE API reader which requires several windows-only frameworks) :(
1013 2011-09-10 20:58:32 <CutAndPaste> playing eve online is literally a fate worse than linux
1014 2011-09-10 20:59:23 <diki> RAWRwins254:why did we need to hear that?
1015 2011-09-10 20:59:55 <jrmithdobbs> os is tux just going to buy up every hacked bitcoin site except mybitcoin?
1016 2011-09-10 21:00:00 <jrmithdobbs> s/os/so/
1017 2011-09-10 21:00:45 <RAWRwins254> CutAndPaste: honestly, WoW is worse than EVE... and Eve runs on linux fine... it's EveHQ that doesn't :(
1018 2011-09-10 21:01:40 <cacheson> jrmithdobbs: seems like he's got his hands full with mtgox as it is, not sure why he's doing it
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1020 2011-09-10 21:05:37 <CutAndPaste> RAWRwins254: ok well good luck
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1042 2011-09-10 21:50:43 <xelister> we have technical discussion
1043 2011-09-10 21:50:46 <xelister> about bitcoin security
1044 2011-09-10 21:50:47 <YifuGuo> OVC Session ended, here's the last updated pad - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hDkqwzqm0UpsSW60kTpSDKiCD1TM0S-PKGXFboP_gnA/edit?hl=en_US&ndplr=1&pli=1
1045 2011-09-10 21:50:48 <xelister> in #btc-value
1046 2011-09-10 21:50:51 <xelister> fell invited everyone
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1085 2011-09-10 22:36:56 <wtfman> anyone know whats currently better? pushpool : poolserverJ?
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1110 2011-09-10 23:19:13 <xelister> #btc-value - Restoring confidence in BitCoin - everyone is invited
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1117 2011-09-10 23:41:36 <CIA-101> poolserverj: shadders * 3f8fb56aee29 r47 /src/main/java/com/shadworld/poolserver/WorkProxy.java: - fix from <Eleuthria>: convert submitted data to lowercase, some miners return in uppercase resulting in failed work lookup from map.
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1121 2011-09-10 23:54:42 <twobits> Is the change in the makefiles to link bdb 4.8 being done for any technical reasons, or just a case of using it because it is newer?
1122 2011-09-10 23:58:23 <cjdelisle> did it not specify the version before and now it specifies it as 4.8?
1123 2011-09-10 23:59:36 <cjdelisle> because 5.0+ uses a different file format and if bitcoin is built and linked against 5.0+, it will silently convert all of the .dat files into the 5.0 format but 4.8- will not be able to read them or convert them back.