1 2011-10-06 00:07:05 <gjs278> STEVE JOBOS IS -oh you already have it here
2 2011-10-06 00:07:16 <gjs278> http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5594/screenshotrs.png
3 2011-10-06 00:07:33 <gjs278> Diablo-D3 it's come to the AP's attention that you've basically stolen their entire article. expect massive lawsuits
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93 2011-10-06 02:31:35 <Diablo-D3> the front page of HN is all steve jobs except for the two bottom stories
94 2011-10-06 02:31:52 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * r6dc10efaa56a cgminer/main.c: Don't try to build adl features without having adl.
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99 2011-10-06 02:37:13 <EvanR> im not sure if anyones heard yet
100 2011-10-06 02:37:19 <EvanR> jobs is dead
101 2011-10-06 02:37:26 <EvanR> joking
102 2011-10-06 02:38:07 <luke-jr> "In memory of the late Steve Jobs, Apple will be using our emergency remote access to temporarily put all Macbooks, Macbook Pros, Macbook Airs, iPhones, iPads, iTouches and iMacs into sleep mode for 1 minute of digital silence at 13:00EST October 10. These are all devices that were the labor of Steve's love and this can be your way of saying thanks."
103 2011-10-06 02:38:56 <EvanR> are you serious?
104 2011-10-06 02:39:13 <luke-jr> dunno, ask TPB
105 2011-10-06 02:39:53 <EvanR> im not sure if the peanut butter has much to say on the matter
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122 2011-10-06 03:10:08 <Diablo-D3> heh
123 2011-10-06 03:10:39 <Diablo-D3> top 30 stories, the whole front page, of hn is steve jobs
124 2011-10-06 03:12:44 <log0s> people tend to get upset about losing jobs
125 2011-10-06 03:20:10 <jgarzik> Obama wants to create more jobs
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127 2011-10-06 03:22:29 <shadders> *happy dance*... just added checksum caching to bitcoinj optimisation patch and boosted performance gain from avg 54% across the test set to 218%. Now need to make a good list of reasons why caching checksum is a bad idea to see if I've addressed them all
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137 2011-10-06 03:29:10 <shadders> luke-jr: you're good at telling my why my code's wrong... any input?
138 2011-10-06 03:42:01 <luke-jr> shadders: um, what checksum?
139 2011-10-06 03:42:17 <shadders> header checksum
140 2011-10-06 03:42:27 <shadders> when sending msg over the wire
141 2011-10-06 03:42:39 <shadders> bitcoin protocol
142 2011-10-06 03:43:24 <luke-jr> I don't know bitcoin protocol at all
143 2011-10-06 03:43:32 <luke-jr> sorry
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155 2011-10-06 04:00:57 <Diablo-D3> [11:09:13] <jgarzik> Obama wants to create more jobs
156 2011-10-06 04:01:13 <Diablo-D3> I wouldnt mind more jobs either.
157 2011-10-06 04:02:12 <jrmithdobbs> but there'll never be another jobs :(
158 2011-10-06 04:02:20 <Diablo-D3> who knows
159 2011-10-06 04:02:40 <Diablo-D3> it just takes someone whos insane enough to take an idea and run with it
160 2011-10-06 04:02:40 <log0s> it's obama
161 2011-10-06 04:02:48 <log0s> oops
162 2011-10-06 04:02:52 <Diablo-D3> periodically, people like that show up
163 2011-10-06 04:03:19 <log0s> it's obama's fault...he killed jobs during the process of trying to create more jobs
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165 2011-10-06 04:03:37 <Diablo-D3> log0s: oh shut up
166 2011-10-06 04:03:40 <Diablo-D3> today isnt a day to troll
167 2011-10-06 04:08:29 <log0s> Diablo-D3: actually, it was apparently a very sad attempt at making a joke...wasn't trying to troll
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198 2011-10-06 04:59:44 <TuxBlackEdo_> rescued: 48169 MB, errsize: 803 kB, current rate: 720 kB/s
199 2011-10-06 04:59:44 <TuxBlackEdo_> ipos: 48170 MB, errors: 3, average rate: 1164 kB/s
200 2011-10-06 04:59:44 <TuxBlackEdo_> opos: 48170 MB, time from last successful read: 0 s
201 2011-10-06 04:59:51 <TuxBlackEdo_> from ddrescue
202 2011-10-06 04:59:58 <TuxBlackEdo_> 32gb left to go
203 2011-10-06 05:00:27 <TuxBlackEdo_> ;;calc (80000-48169)/60 minutes
204 2011-10-06 05:00:28 <gribble> (80Â 000 - 48Â 169) / (60 minutes) = 8.84194444 hertz
205 2011-10-06 05:00:33 <TuxBlackEdo_> ;;calc (80000-48169)/60 minutes
206 2011-10-06 05:00:33 <gribble> (80Â 000 - 48Â 169) / (60 minutes) = 8.84194444 hertz
207 2011-10-06 05:00:43 <TuxBlackEdo_> 8 more hours
208 2011-10-06 05:00:49 <TuxBlackEdo_> damn
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213 2011-10-06 05:18:07 <FellowTraveler> hi all.
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240 2011-10-06 06:23:26 <mabus> http://i.imgur.com/sArkg.png
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242 2011-10-06 06:24:31 <Diablo-D3> whoever made that should feel bad
243 2011-10-06 06:25:01 <gmaxwell> Poor taste and offtopic.
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246 2011-10-06 06:36:43 <noagendamarket> lol
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256 2011-10-06 06:51:30 * TuxBlackEdo_ face palms
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414 2011-10-06 14:21:01 <devs_> goodmorning
415 2011-10-06 14:21:25 <devs_> new york
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418 2011-10-06 14:23:23 <TuxBlackEdo_> good morning
419 2011-10-06 14:23:38 <TuxBlackEdo_> gjs278, ive been running ddrescue officially for 4 hours now
420 2011-10-06 14:23:43 <TuxBlackEdo_> 24 hours*
421 2011-10-06 14:24:05 <TuxBlackEdo_> it slowed down all the way to 0.5-0.7mb/sec
422 2011-10-06 14:24:11 <epscy> what did you do?
423 2011-10-06 14:24:14 <TuxBlackEdo_> 10gb left to go
424 2011-10-06 14:24:25 <TuxBlackEdo_> well my ssd drive stopped working and wouldnt mount
425 2011-10-06 14:24:38 <epscy> with btc on it?
426 2011-10-06 14:24:42 <TuxBlackEdo_> and dd crapped out after 16gb of copied data, however ddrescue keeps going
427 2011-10-06 14:24:48 <TuxBlackEdo_> yeah with btc on it
428 2011-10-06 14:25:15 <TuxBlackEdo_> as well as source code
429 2011-10-06 14:25:30 <epscy> i got one of those physical bitcoins
430 2011-10-06 14:25:39 <epscy> i am tempted to send all my btc to that address
431 2011-10-06 14:25:48 <epscy> and just use that to store them
432 2011-10-06 14:25:59 <TuxBlackEdo_> bitbill?
433 2011-10-06 14:26:17 <epscy> nah that ones that casciuccscscscscs made
434 2011-10-06 14:26:53 <epscy> just means if i lose that coin...
435 2011-10-06 14:27:09 <epscy> or if the dude kept the private key...
436 2011-10-06 14:27:38 <epscy> or if an asteroid hits the earth killing all life...
437 2011-10-06 14:27:48 <epscy> i lose all my btc
438 2011-10-06 14:28:02 <TuxBlackEdo_> or if bitcoin network gets taken over by steam
439 2011-10-06 14:28:35 <TuxBlackEdo_> rescued: 70402 MB, errsize: 803 kB, current rate: 720 kB/s
440 2011-10-06 14:28:36 <TuxBlackEdo_> ipos: 70403 MB, errors: 3, average rate: 932 kB/s
441 2011-10-06 14:28:36 <TuxBlackEdo_> opos: 70403 MB, time from last successful read: 0 s
442 2011-10-06 14:28:38 <TuxBlackEdo_> so damn close
443 2011-10-06 14:28:49 <TuxBlackEdo_> 70gb out of 80gb (after 24 hours)
444 2011-10-06 14:28:59 <helo> and no wallet?
445 2011-10-06 14:29:13 <TuxBlackEdo_> no i havent opened anything i am letting it rescue itself
446 2011-10-06 14:29:20 X0Rc0re has joined
447 2011-10-06 14:29:24 <X0Rc0re> hello
448 2011-10-06 14:29:39 <X0Rc0re> anyone here interested inreverse engineering?
449 2011-10-06 14:29:59 <sipa> reverse engineering of what?
450 2011-10-06 14:30:00 <lianj> whats inreverse?
451 2011-10-06 14:30:01 <helo> who isn't?
452 2011-10-06 14:30:15 <lianj> oh, in reverse..
453 2011-10-06 14:30:26 larsivi has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
454 2011-10-06 14:31:15 <X0Rc0re> reverse engineering of software
455 2011-10-06 14:31:22 * TheSeven accuses lianj of failing to reverse engineer the work "inreverse" :P
456 2011-10-06 14:31:27 <X0Rc0re> using ollydbg,IDA pro etc.
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458 2011-10-06 14:31:45 <lianj> TheSeven: ^^
459 2011-10-06 14:32:00 <TheSeven> word*
460 2011-10-06 14:32:06 <TheSeven> X0Rc0re: what kind of software?
461 2011-10-06 14:32:39 <edcba> X0Rc0re: are you talking to me ?
462 2011-10-06 14:32:56 <X0Rc0re> im talking to everyone interested
463 2011-10-06 14:33:13 <X0Rc0re> Blackshades RAT, winodws apps, drivers
464 2011-10-06 14:33:15 <edcba> what is your question ?
465 2011-10-06 14:33:29 <sipa> what does that have to do with bitcoin?
466 2011-10-06 14:33:37 * TheSeven likes reverse engineering embedded devices :)
467 2011-10-06 14:33:51 <X0Rc0re> TheSeven
468 2011-10-06 14:34:01 <X0Rc0re> care to join my site? and IRC channel?
469 2011-10-06 14:34:07 <X0Rc0re> :)
470 2011-10-06 14:34:19 <edcba> ok so it was just chan advertising ?
471 2011-10-06 14:34:26 <TheSeven> i'm not sure if i have time do more of that
472 2011-10-06 14:34:32 <TheSeven> edcba: apparently
473 2011-10-06 14:34:38 <X0Rc0re> its not chan advertising
474 2011-10-06 14:34:48 <X0Rc0re> its asking for help within my IRC
475 2011-10-06 14:34:52 <edcba> why do you ask that in #bitcoin-dev ?
476 2011-10-06 14:38:41 <snimpy> ;;bc,diffchange
477 2011-10-06 14:38:43 <gribble> Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -7.93542345643 % based on data since last change | -6.26234153576 % based on data for last three days
478 2011-10-06 14:38:58 <snimpy> ;;bc,estimate
479 2011-10-06 14:38:59 <gribble> 1555278.56599674
480 2011-10-06 14:39:16 <snimpy> ;;bc,timetonex
481 2011-10-06 14:39:16 <gribble> Error: "bc,timetonex" is not a valid command.
482 2011-10-06 14:39:22 <snimpy> ;;bc,timetonext
483 2011-10-06 14:39:23 <gribble> 6 days, 15 hours, 1 minute, and 0 seconds
484 2011-10-06 14:39:44 <snimpy> ;;bc,totalbc
485 2011-10-06 14:39:45 <gribble> 7415700.00000000
486 2011-10-06 14:39:45 <iGlad> ;;bc,stats
487 2011-10-06 14:39:49 <gribble> Current Blocks: 148313 | Current Difficulty: 1689334.4045971 | Next Difficulty At Block: 149183 | Next Difficulty In: 870 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 15 hours, 1 minute, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1555278.56599674 | Estimated Percent Change: -7.93542345643
488 2011-10-06 14:39:56 MrTiggrAFK is now known as MrTiggr
489 2011-10-06 14:41:04 <snimpy> ;;bc,slushpool
490 2011-10-06 14:41:05 <gribble> 1328500000
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492 2011-10-06 14:45:32 <p0s> ;;nmc,stats
493 2011-10-06 14:45:32 <gribble> Error: "nmc,stats" is not a valid command.
494 2011-10-06 14:45:37 <p0s> fu
495 2011-10-06 14:45:52 <p0s> ;;nc,stats
496 2011-10-06 14:45:52 <gribble> Error: "nc,stats" is not a valid command.
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502 2011-10-06 14:57:54 <snimpy> ;;bc,stats
503 2011-10-06 14:57:57 <gribble> Current Blocks: 148314 | Current Difficulty: 1689334.4045971 | Next Difficulty At Block: 149183 | Next Difficulty In: 869 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 15 hours, 4 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1553683.00275552 | Estimated Percent Change: -8.02987268074
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510 2011-10-06 15:05:53 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Gavin Andresen master * r32ebde4 / src/main.cpp :
511 2011-10-06 15:05:53 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Merge pull request #564 from luke-jr/optimize_remove_CheckWork_delay
512 2011-10-06 15:05:53 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Remove 2 second sleep from CheckWork - http://git.io/ofFtmA
513 2011-10-06 15:07:23 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: coinbaser has a pretty clear majority support now :p
514 2011-10-06 15:07:39 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: damn, that one got thoroughly tested quick...
515 2011-10-06 15:07:39 <luke-jr> (and a Windows port)
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517 2011-10-06 15:07:59 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: what, the 30-second sleep?
518 2011-10-06 15:08:02 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: I guess the assumption is that if almost every pool does it, it's good
519 2011-10-06 15:08:23 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: worst case scenario isn't bad for that one....
520 2011-10-06 15:08:42 <gavinandresen> ... worst case is a mining pool merges it, it stops working for them, they complain and revert
521 2011-10-06 15:08:43 * BlueMatt was being sarcastic...
522 2011-10-06 15:08:43 <BlueMatt> (sorry about that one...)
523 2011-10-06 15:08:51 <BlueMatt> true
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525 2011-10-06 15:09:52 <kinlo> why does bitcoin wait in the first place?
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528 2011-10-06 15:10:02 <gavinandresen> I'm tempted to pull FastGetWork Optimization for the same reason.... who all is using it or something like it?
529 2011-10-06 15:10:09 <gavinandresen> kinlo: no clue
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533 2011-10-06 15:12:23 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: pretty much everything with JoelKatz in it is used by most pools
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536 2011-10-06 15:13:00 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: it probably would work out better to merge ToHex first, before FastGetWork
537 2011-10-06 15:13:13 <gavinandresen> mmm.... I really don't like the 'bitcoind is trying to be everything to everybody' state that we're in today... but the world is not perfect....
538 2011-10-06 15:13:34 <gavinandresen> so run some benchmarks and tell me how much faster ToHex is than what we've got now.
539 2011-10-06 15:13:54 <luke-jr> I don't use any of JoelKatz on Eligius ;)
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541 2011-10-06 15:14:05 <gavinandresen> oh, and write some unit tests while you're at it
542 2011-10-06 15:14:10 <luke-jr> except the parts I was involved in writing
543 2011-10-06 15:14:19 <kinlo> I do think that "everybody" is a bit broad, but pooloperators are a very important part of the bitcoin users
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545 2011-10-06 15:15:16 <gavinandresen> So you're telling me the only pool operator that does NOT use Mr. Katz's stuff is pushing to include a bunch of his stuff in mainline. I don't get it.
546 2011-10-06 15:15:52 <gavinandresen> If I was a conspiracy-oriented person I might think you're trying to sabotage the other pools.
547 2011-10-06 15:15:55 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: I figure I was doing people a favour :p
548 2011-10-06 15:16:23 <luke-jr> plus, I had to split his patch up to evaluate if I wanted to bother with it too
549 2011-10-06 15:16:33 * luke-jr doesn't like blindly applying patches
550 2011-10-06 15:16:36 <gavinandresen> Well, ask THEM to lobby for changes they want. The silence is deafening...
551 2011-10-06 15:16:45 <luke-jr> yeah, kinda surprised by that
552 2011-10-06 15:16:52 <luke-jr> I posted the pull reqs in the Pools forum
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556 2011-10-06 15:18:43 <shadders> the pool ops are probably not feeling any need to shake up status quo coz they all know how to merge JK patches in current form... when they start wanting to move to 0.4 and if it turns the patch won't merge then they'll probably start squealing at gavin
557 2011-10-06 15:19:02 <luke-jr> heh
558 2011-10-06 15:19:21 <luke-jr> more likely JoelKatz will rebase it all and release 5diff -.-
559 2011-10-06 15:19:29 <gavinandresen> I'm perfectly fine with JoelKatz being the "pool" branch of bitcoin... specialization is good.
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561 2011-10-06 15:19:59 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: except most (all?) of this stuff isn't really pool-specific
562 2011-10-06 15:20:07 <luke-jr> it makes things better for all miners
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564 2011-10-06 15:20:11 <luke-jr> in theory
565 2011-10-06 15:20:29 <gavinandresen> optimizing getwork doesn't matter for solo mining
566 2011-10-06 15:20:31 <shadders> it does but it's only needed on pool daemons to make things better for miners...
567 2011-10-06 15:21:04 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: it can, albeit not as much
568 2011-10-06 15:21:34 <shadders> SIGUSR1 patch would be useful for solo miners but I've got my own arguments about that as a final main branch choice
569 2011-10-06 15:21:44 <kinlo> not all pools depend on JK to do the rebasing, there are plenty of pools out there that can rebase it themselves
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571 2011-10-06 15:22:38 <luke-jr> kinlo: that's not the point :P
572 2011-10-06 15:22:43 <shadders> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/555#issuecomment-2308367
573 2011-10-06 15:22:53 <kinlo> but it would be a good thing if several parts are merged to the main client
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575 2011-10-06 15:23:06 <luke-jr> shadders: signals are a lot easier to handle, and there's already a socket-based solution
576 2011-10-06 15:23:09 <kinlo> there are some things that are very clear that they are beneficial for everybody
577 2011-10-06 15:23:33 <shadders> what socket based solution?
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579 2011-10-06 15:23:38 <kinlo> some other things might be more suspicious, I don't think the hubmode will end up in the stock bitcoind anytime soon
580 2011-10-06 15:23:57 <luke-jr> shadders: also, a SIGUSR1 from one bitcoind probably means PSJ needs to trash work from *all* of them until they're *all* on the new block
581 2011-10-06 15:23:57 <luke-jr> shadders: p2p protocol
582 2011-10-06 15:24:55 <shadders> yes it does but it also needs to know when each daemon comes back into sync....
583 2011-10-06 15:25:03 <gavinandresen> I'm going to defer any decisions about optimizations or changes to getwork/mining/etc to jgarzik, who knows way more than I do about all that stuff.
584 2011-10-06 15:25:22 <gavinandresen> ... like I said, specialization is good....
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586 2011-10-06 15:25:41 <luke-jr> kinlo: yeah, I didn't even bother submitting a pullreq for hubmode
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590 2011-10-06 15:26:13 <shadders> and p2p is not a solution... implementing a half node (which is what I assume you mean) is far less trivial than listening for an rpc callback or a network socket poke
591 2011-10-06 15:26:14 <luke-jr> [11:12:46] <luke-jr> shadders: also, a SIGUSR1 from one bitcoind probably means PSJ needs to trash work from *all* of them until they're *all* on the new block
592 2011-10-06 15:26:15 <luke-jr> [11:12:52] <luke-jr> shadders: p2p protocol
593 2011-10-06 15:26:17 <luke-jr> [11:13:06] <luke-jr> kinlo: yeah, I didn't even bother submitting a pullreq for hubmode
594 2011-10-06 15:26:29 <kinlo> gavinandresen: well, some patches are only relevant for pool-owners, but have no influence on the regular users
595 2011-10-06 15:26:46 <kinlo> gavinandresen: in any case, many things have been very well tested by the pools, and proven to be stable and usefull
596 2011-10-06 15:26:50 <luke-jr> shadders: implementing a full HTTP server is a lot more work than a network socket poke ;p
597 2011-10-06 15:28:05 <gavinandresen> kinlo: great. I am not a pool owner and don't pay attention to the whole 'mining world' very much, so I can't judge that by myself
598 2011-10-06 15:28:07 <shadders> err.. not for a pool that's already listening for http... and rpc callback was only a suggestion.. socket poke is simpler and my preferred solution.
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601 2011-10-06 15:29:27 <shadders> btw... I don't sigusr1 is a bad idea... I just know if it gets pulled it will make it that much harder to get a superset solution pulled in the future...
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604 2011-10-06 15:34:28 <kinlo> gavinandresen: would it help you if I'd look at luke's patches and give you some feedback ?
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607 2011-10-06 15:35:26 <gavinandresen> kinlo: It always helps for people to look at patches and give feedback.
608 2011-10-06 15:35:38 <gavinandresen> ... especially if you have relevant expertise. Are you a pool operator?
609 2011-10-06 15:35:43 <kinlo> I'll see when I find some time and I'll comment on them
610 2011-10-06 15:35:44 <kinlo> yep
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617 2011-10-06 15:46:04 <kinlo> is Joel Katz on irc?
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620 2011-10-06 15:47:51 <luke-jr> kinlo: never seen him
621 2011-10-06 15:48:10 <terrytibbs> kinlo: he prefers more "formal" ways of communication
622 2011-10-06 15:48:28 <kinlo> I'll have to become active in the community then :)
623 2011-10-06 15:49:05 <luke-jr> terrytibbs: never seen him on ML either
624 2011-10-06 15:49:15 <luke-jr> he should learn to make his own branches and pull reqs :P
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626 2011-10-06 15:49:41 <terrytibbs> luke-jr: you sure about that?
627 2011-10-06 15:49:48 <terrytibbs> i'll have to take a look
628 2011-10-06 15:50:01 <kinlo> it's not because you don't speak that you don't lurk on the mailinglist :)
629 2011-10-06 15:50:50 <gjs278> ;;bc,stats
630 2011-10-06 15:50:54 <gribble> Current Blocks: 148319 | Current Difficulty: 1689334.4045971 | Next Difficulty At Block: 149183 | Next Difficulty In: 864 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 14 hours, 9 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1553388.86267949 | Estimated Percent Change: -8.04728427646
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703 2011-10-06 18:05:35 <migrator> I'm having issues with rpcuser/rpcpassword. I created bitcoin.conf with those values, but running "bitcoind -rpcuser=test -rpcpassword=test help" only gives me a authorization failed. Any idea what I'm doing wrong.
704 2011-10-06 18:05:54 <migrator> Also, shouldn't "help" be availible without password?
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706 2011-10-06 18:07:08 <migrator> I suspect this is the reason I get errors both when trying to access bitcoind through wget and jsonrpc.
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708 2011-10-06 18:08:36 <neofutur> jgarzik: could you have a look at https://github.com/jgarzik/cpuminer/issues/37#issuecomment-1661327
709 2011-10-06 18:08:49 <neofutur> luke-jr: you could be interested too
710 2011-10-06 18:09:06 <luke-jr> neofutur: cpuminer is dead
711 2011-10-06 18:09:28 <luke-jr> neofutur: try cgminer
712 2011-10-06 18:09:31 <jgarzik> neofutur: as luke-jr hinted... cgminer is the "current cpuminer"
713 2011-10-06 18:09:31 <luke-jr> neofutur: emerge cgminer
714 2011-10-06 18:09:33 <luke-jr> voila
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718 2011-10-06 18:16:16 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr * rf6287162432a gentoo/app-misc/cpuminer/ (Manifest cpuminer-9999.ebuild): Remove app-misc/cpuminer (superceded by app-misc/cgminer)
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720 2011-10-06 18:17:14 <neofutur> luke-jr: cgminer is worst :p
721 2011-10-06 18:18:28 <neofutur> just try to use valgrind on cgminer
722 2011-10-06 18:18:58 <neofutur> https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/issues/27
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750 2011-10-06 19:22:10 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Victor Leschuk master * rb95e637 / src/util.h : Fix for 64bit build - http://git.io/KAx4Zg
751 2011-10-06 19:22:10 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Gavin Andresen master * re9b95e4 / src/util.h :
752 2011-10-06 19:22:10 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Merge pull request #572 from delirium---/master
753 2011-10-06 19:22:10 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Fix for win64 build - http://git.io/hlQGKA
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760 2011-10-06 19:40:11 <upb> -last bitcoin7
761 2011-10-06 19:40:13 <upb> oops
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883 2011-10-06 21:51:21 <luke-jr> where might I find a hex dump of a complete block?
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903 2011-10-06 22:07:54 <jrmithdobbs> luke-jr: blk001.dat
904 2011-10-06 22:08:07 <jrmithdobbs> luke-jr: it's stored on disk in on the wire format
905 2011-10-06 22:08:16 <jrmithdobbs> luke-jr: in sequence
906 2011-10-06 22:08:21 <luke-jr> :P
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908 2011-10-06 22:08:36 <luke-jr> hmm, now I need to figure how to get from txn data to txid
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911 2011-10-06 22:13:46 <osmosis> are the transactions part of a block hash, or can transactions be added to a block after the hash is solved?
912 2011-10-06 22:13:52 <luke-jr> got it
913 2011-10-06 22:14:05 <luke-jr> osmosis: no and no
914 2011-10-06 22:14:50 <osmosis> luke-jr, if they are not part of the hash, then why can they not be added after it is solved?
915 2011-10-06 22:15:06 <luke-jr> osmosis: they're linked to it via merkle tree
916 2011-10-06 22:15:19 <luke-jr> to change the block's txns, you change the bottom of the tree
917 2011-10-06 22:15:24 <luke-jr> which affects the top of the tree
918 2011-10-06 22:15:29 <luke-jr> which is in the header
919 2011-10-06 22:15:31 <luke-jr> which is hashed
920 2011-10-06 22:15:43 <osmosis> so the hash depends on the transactions because they are linked through the merkle tree
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922 2011-10-06 22:16:32 <osmosis> ok, thx
923 2011-10-06 22:16:33 <luke-jr> osmosis: correct
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937 2011-10-06 22:37:10 <wereHamster> so, I'm trying to run bitcoind under its own user account and with a custom data directory
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939 2011-10-06 22:39:04 <terrytibbs> yes?
940 2011-10-06 22:39:25 <imsaguy> sounds good so far
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942 2011-10-06 22:40:24 <terrytibbs> simply run it passing -datadir=<dir>
943 2011-10-06 22:41:15 <wereHamster> first of all, it doesn't like to be interrupted with sigint. I always have to use sigkill
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947 2011-10-06 22:43:46 <sipa> it can take while to shut down
948 2011-10-06 22:48:08 <wereHamster> what is the default for rpcallowip ?
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952 2011-10-06 22:49:24 <imsaguy> localhost
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954 2011-10-06 22:49:58 <wereHamster> good
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970 2011-10-06 23:13:26 <TuxBlackEdo> i just wanted to take some time to publicly thank gjs278, he saved my ass and I am forever thankful to him/her
971 2011-10-06 23:13:34 <TuxBlackEdo> probably him
972 2011-10-06 23:13:39 <TuxBlackEdo> or maybe her?
973 2011-10-06 23:13:42 <gjs278> I can confirm him
974 2011-10-06 23:13:42 <TuxBlackEdo> hehe
975 2011-10-06 23:14:05 <TuxBlackEdo> him it is! :)
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982 2011-10-06 23:22:01 <luke-jr> TuxBlackEdo: females don't use IRC
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984 2011-10-06 23:22:38 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: Sure they do.
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986 2011-10-06 23:23:11 <gjs278> I can confirm that I've met females on irc
987 2011-10-06 23:23:22 <gjs278> but they were using it without knowing what it was, it was a chat applet on a website
988 2011-10-06 23:23:32 <gjs278> they were all anorexic
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1001 2011-10-06 23:44:35 <cuqa> lol gjs278
1002 2011-10-06 23:44:39 <cuqa> girls on irc? rly?
1003 2011-10-06 23:44:45 <gjs278> yeah, but they didn't know it was irc
1004 2011-10-06 23:44:48 <gjs278> to them it was just a chatbox
1005 2011-10-06 23:45:13 <cuqa> irc is not just a chatbox?
1006 2011-10-06 23:45:21 <cuqa> thats why I never met someone for CS
1007 2011-10-06 23:45:30 <cuqa> could have saved like 10 years of my life
1008 2011-10-06 23:45:32 <cuqa> god damnit
1009 2011-10-06 23:45:38 <lianj> IRC: where men are men, women are men and little girls are FBI agents
1010 2011-10-06 23:45:45 <neofutur> I met my wife on orkut and irc
1011 2011-10-06 23:45:51 <neofutur> got married 3 years later
1012 2011-10-06 23:46:11 <cuqa> oh
1013 2011-10-06 23:46:19 <neofutur> ;)
1014 2011-10-06 23:46:25 <cuqa> u lucky
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1016 2011-10-06 23:46:37 <neofutur> and patient
1017 2011-10-06 23:47:04 <cuqa> i wouldnt believe woman are on the internet
1018 2011-10-06 23:47:20 <cuqa> started too early
1019 2011-10-06 23:47:26 BTCTrader is now known as BTC_away
1020 2011-10-06 23:47:48 <neofutur> respect can help toom most girls hide it on IRC because there are too many sillykids
1021 2011-10-06 23:48:22 <cuqa> i respect women
1022 2011-10-06 23:48:52 <cuqa> query me with pics for more info
1023 2011-10-06 23:49:10 <cuqa> ah, not funny
1024 2011-10-06 23:49:50 <cuqa> i have heard simpsons might finally get shut down
1025 2011-10-06 23:49:55 <cuqa> I would appreciate it
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