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190 2011-10-12 06:12:52 <shadders> trying to figure out this scriptsig from coinbase transaction: 045dee091a02cd00
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192 2011-10-12 06:13:30 <shadders> I see the target nBits and I assume the last 3 bytes is extranonce
193 2011-10-12 06:13:40 <shadders> 04<diff>5dee091a<extranonce>02cd00
194 2011-10-12 06:14:24 <shadders> but what's the 04 at the start?  Is it an OP_PUSHDATA?  If so I guess it's wrong.
195 2011-10-12 06:15:43 <shadders> Since I can't see any sign OP_DROP ("75") I'm  guessing coinbase is never actually evaluated?
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303 2011-10-12 10:08:20 <dp_> Hi, my bitcoin.exe have exception at startup, and refuse to start. Exception:NSt8ios_base7failureE CAutoFile:read:end of file
304 2011-10-12 10:09:23 <dp_> does anyone have a hint about way to fix this?
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306 2011-10-12 10:09:43 <sipa> seems like a corrupt block database
307 2011-10-12 10:09:54 <sipa> delete/move blkindex.dat and blk0001.dat out of the way
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309 2011-10-12 10:10:05 <SomeoneWeird>  /rename
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314 2011-10-12 10:14:01 <Ycros>  /eat
315 2011-10-12 10:14:48 <dp_> Well, bitcoin started allright (thanks!), but with all transations in grey with 0/unconfirmed. Is this going to be ok? My balance is 0 right now :-(
316 2011-10-12 10:15:12 <gmaxwell> dp_: it will redownload the blockchain and then catch back up. No worries.
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318 2011-10-12 10:17:19 <dp_> Yeah, this means a lot to me! Thank you!
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345 2011-10-12 11:04:35 <Edward_Black> Hello everyone! Is there a relatively simple and straightforward open-source exchange focused at alt-currencies ? I wanted to start one for Fairbrix, but Moon's exchange is a horrible mess and has some "bad karma" to it
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363 2011-10-12 11:35:46 <slothbag> hi, anyone else notice the latest bitcoin client for windows starts to fluctuate connections after running for a few hours?  mine flickers up and down 1 or 2 connections every few seconds.. i'm sure it never used to do that
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371 2011-10-12 11:49:59 <FellowTraveler> Hi all.
372 2011-10-12 11:51:08 <SomeoneWeird> Guys, does https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Enabling_SSL_on_original_client_daemon still work for the current client?
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421 2011-10-12 13:45:13 <Joric> Neal King?
422 2011-10-12 13:47:10 <sipa> ?
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429 2011-10-12 13:57:35 <[Tycho]> Hello.
430 2011-10-12 13:57:35 <Joric> http://www.fastcompany.com/1785445/crypto-currency-mystery states Satoshi Nakamoto is Neal King
431 2011-10-12 13:57:59 <Joric> also they write 'Davis interviewed a leading computer security researcher who sifted through Bitcoin's code, searching for flaws. He didn't find any, concluding that Nakamoto would have to be "a world-class programmer" with "a deep understanding" of C++--the programming language'
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433 2011-10-12 13:58:57 <Joric> congrats! :) no flaws
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440 2011-10-12 14:07:32 <Diablo-D3> Joric: hes not.
441 2011-10-12 14:07:40 <Diablo-D3> also whoever wrote that is an idiot
442 2011-10-12 14:07:45 <Diablo-D3> bitcoin is pretty shitty c++
443 2011-10-12 14:08:02 <nathan7> then fix it!
444 2011-10-12 14:08:15 <sipa> and it doesn't do encryption at all (until recently)
445 2011-10-12 14:11:10 <epscy> !ticker
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447 2011-10-12 14:13:02 <[Tycho]> Is there some miner with GPU temp monitoring ?
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451 2011-10-12 14:19:07 <SomeoneWeird> [Tycho], cgminer
452 2011-10-12 14:19:27 <[Tycho]> Is the cgminer's author irc-aware ?
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462 2011-10-12 14:31:48 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr * rafacc0460dcc gentoo/net-p2p/ (21 files in 3 dirs): net-p2p/bitcoind and net-p2p/wxbitcoin: USE=debug didn't actually control anything
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464 2011-10-12 14:34:04 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: #cgminer conman
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466 2011-10-12 14:34:37 <[Tycho]> Thanks.
467 2011-10-12 14:34:55 <[Tycho]> Why isn't he here ?
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469 2011-10-12 14:35:21 <Ycros> [Tycho]: he's not on this IRC network at the moment, also he's sleeping as he's Australian.
470 2011-10-12 14:35:57 <Ycros> (it's 1:24am here)
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473 2011-10-12 14:38:31 <[Tycho]> Ok.
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495 2011-10-12 15:20:27 <[Tycho]> Hello.
496 2011-10-12 15:20:46 <gavinandresen> Hi Tycho
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499 2011-10-12 15:22:44 <ThomasV> is the author of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q3UtmhR9G8 here?
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502 2011-10-12 15:27:20 <luke-jr> ThomasV: if you want first-class message signing, speak up! :P
503 2011-10-12 15:27:36 <ThomasV> huh?
504 2011-10-12 15:28:14 <ThomasV> are you talking about your pull request?
505 2011-10-12 15:28:30 <ThomasV> sorry I have not tried it
506 2011-10-12 15:28:54 <luke-jr> yes
507 2011-10-12 15:29:06 <luke-jr> don't have to try it to comment on the theoretical bit
508 2011-10-12 15:29:17 <luke-jr> ie, whether it should have a tab or be hidden
509 2011-10-12 15:29:30 <ThomasV> how hidden is it ?
510 2011-10-12 15:29:35 <ThomasV> is it in a menu?
511 2011-10-12 15:29:52 <sipa> i'd prefer it to be in a menu - at least for now
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513 2011-10-12 15:30:12 <ThomasV> it's fine with me too if it's in a menu
514 2011-10-12 15:31:08 <luke-jr> ThomasV: it was a tab before
515 2011-10-12 15:31:27 <ThomasV> luke-jr: and now what is it?
516 2011-10-12 15:31:57 <luke-jr> working on making it menu
517 2011-10-12 15:32:12 <ThomasV> ok
518 2011-10-12 15:33:15 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: you'll get more attention from the core dev team if you wait until we've got rc1 binaries out the door...
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520 2011-10-12 15:33:39 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: I'm assuming this won't be merged until pre-0.6
521 2011-10-12 15:33:59 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: but it'd be nice to have it ready to go
522 2011-10-12 15:34:01 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: cool
523 2011-10-12 15:34:25 <ThomasV> gavinandresen: but getting attention from me is nice too :-)
524 2011-10-12 15:35:33 <[Tycho]> What menu ?
525 2011-10-12 15:35:43 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: the File menu :p
526 2011-10-12 15:35:51 <[Tycho]> What's with it ?
527 2011-10-12 15:36:00 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: I'm putting "Sign message" on it
528 2011-10-12 15:36:19 <[Tycho]> What should it do ?
529 2011-10-12 15:36:25 <luke-jr> sign messages
530 2011-10-12 15:36:32 <[Tycho]> Like PGP ?
531 2011-10-12 15:36:42 <luke-jr> yes, but using Bitcoin ECDSA keys
532 2011-10-12 15:36:50 <ThomasV> hmmm, blockexplorer is wrong here: http://blockexplorer.com/address/1KAD5EnzzLtrSo2Da2G4zzD7uZrjk8zRAv  <-- the balance never reaches 50
533 2011-10-12 15:36:50 <[Tycho]> With what key ? Some of user's wallets ?
534 2011-10-12 15:36:58 <luke-jr> yes, your addresses
535 2011-10-12 15:37:18 <ThomasV> and abe makes the same mistake
536 2011-10-12 15:37:32 <[Tycho]> ThomasV: there is some discrepancy depending on the order of transactions.
537 2011-10-12 15:37:41 <ThomasV> yes
538 2011-10-12 15:37:55 <[Tycho]> luke-jr: it lets user to choose the desired address for signing ?
539 2011-10-12 15:37:59 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: yes
540 2011-10-12 15:38:15 <[Tycho]> Oh, but how will readers check those signatures ?
541 2011-10-12 15:38:23 <luke-jr> verifymessage JSON-RPC
542 2011-10-12 15:38:26 <ThomasV> whith signmessage
543 2011-10-12 15:38:31 <ThomasV> and verifymessage
544 2011-10-12 15:39:37 <luke-jr> $ bitcoind verifymessage 1d3qwa4tHVA7iT2f2YR5dtmCkuapL4aio G8pBhAN0ao4x0T3omD0oPnYueTBcpLzBXFB2R0b5k7tg2GIf+cT+GyEhm4eROhel1i3Uoq8+FjSjpw0500lVrRA= hmm
545 2011-10-12 15:39:39 <luke-jr> true
546 2011-10-12 15:40:15 <[Tycho]> Make the lastblock date display in the statusbar or somewhere else.
547 2011-10-12 15:40:32 <[Tycho]> So people will have chance to know if their blockchain is old.
548 2011-10-12 15:41:03 <[Tycho]> Of course wrong users won't notice it, but some will.
549 2011-10-12 15:41:07 <ThomasV> luke-jr: it's also nice to populate the menus, the gui guy was complaining about singletons
550 2011-10-12 15:41:36 <[Tycho]> And make more clients please.
551 2011-10-12 15:42:02 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr signmessage_gui * r34b6f87bd5e8 bitcoind-personal/ (12 files in 4 dirs): Bitcoin-Qt signmessage GUI
552 2011-10-12 15:43:25 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: have you seen Bitcoin-Qt yet? :p
553 2011-10-12 15:43:41 <[Tycho]> No. It's the same client with Qt ?
554 2011-10-12 15:43:42 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: it shows a spinning icon and "Syncing with network" or such
555 2011-10-12 15:43:50 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: no, it's fairly redesigned
556 2011-10-12 15:43:59 <luke-jr> the GUI, that is
557 2011-10-12 15:44:00 <[Tycho]> Actually I don't like Qt, but it will do.
558 2011-10-12 15:44:16 <luke-jr> gotta admit it's better than non-stable wx
559 2011-10-12 15:44:18 <[Tycho]> How will it know if it's already synced or not ?
560 2011-10-12 15:44:30 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: the same way getwork does?
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562 2011-10-12 15:44:43 <[Tycho]> Oh.
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565 2011-10-12 15:52:22 <[Tycho]> Internet is a great thing when one needs to skip some hours.
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567 2011-10-12 16:01:56 <redss> am having a bit-ch of a time just getting the client downloaded, installed, etc.
568 2011-10-12 16:02:19 <redss> Can anyone help?  I'm running Windows 7 and Opera and Chrome.  Any tips?
569 2011-10-12 16:02:31 <sipa> what's the problem?
570 2011-10-12 16:03:03 <redss> getting an "interrupted" error at the end of the download
571 2011-10-12 16:03:15 <redss> have already tried various mirrors, etc.
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573 2011-10-12 16:04:12 <redss> any ideas?
574 2011-10-12 16:04:36 <sipa> seems you have a problem with your internet connection?
575 2011-10-12 16:04:55 <redss> I can download other files with no problem
576 2011-10-12 16:05:00 <sipa> hmm
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579 2011-10-12 16:10:18 <redss> Is there anything wrong with the download site?
580 2011-10-12 16:10:51 <sipa> let me try
581 2011-10-12 16:11:19 <sipa> you're downloading the installer .exe from sourceforge?
582 2011-10-12 16:12:15 <redss> problem with both .exe and .zip windows versions
583 2011-10-12 16:12:30 <redss> I haven't tried anything else -- just 0.4.0 win 32
584 2011-10-12 16:12:48 <redss> latest version chrome and opera
585 2011-10-12 16:12:55 <redss> under Windows 8
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587 2011-10-12 16:13:18 <sipa> no problems here (Ubuntu)
588 2011-10-12 16:13:21 <sipa> to download those files
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605 2011-10-12 16:36:50 <redss> successfully downloaded and installed the previous version of bitcoin client
606 2011-10-12 16:37:13 <redss> so I think the problem is with the bitcoin-0.4-win32 files
607 2011-10-12 16:37:16 <redss> can anyone check on this?
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610 2011-10-12 16:45:48 <lianj> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bitcoin/Bitcoin/bitcoin-0.4.0/bitcoin-0.4.0-win32.zip
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612 2011-10-12 16:49:41 <lianj> btw, is "old versions harm the network" really true or just some topic joke?
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616 2011-10-12 16:54:29 <redss> I'm now getting this error message:
617 2011-10-12 16:55:11 <redss> " Installer integrity check has failed.  Common causes include incomplete download and damaged media....  NSIS ERROR
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620 2011-10-12 17:05:35 <gavinandresen> lianj: bitcoin versions 0.3.20 through 0.3.24 contain a bug that causes them to disconnect clients that try to download the blockchain from them.  So yes, they are bad for the network.
621 2011-10-12 17:06:00 <sipa> i believe it was fixed in 0.3.24
622 2011-10-12 17:06:37 <gavinandresen> .... ^24^23 then....
623 2011-10-12 17:07:56 <sipa> anyway; in general, it's a good a idea to keep your client updated
624 2011-10-12 17:08:16 <redss> am trying to update my client, but the download seems to be broken
625 2011-10-12 17:08:21 <redss> has anyone checked on this?
626 2011-10-12 17:08:26 <sipa> yes, works fine here
627 2011-10-12 17:08:41 <sipa> the win32 installer executable for 0.4.0
628 2011-10-12 17:08:48 <gavinandresen> downloading zip or exe?  I just downloaded the zip and the sha checksum is fine
629 2011-10-12 17:09:04 <redss> had trouble earlier with both exe and zip
630 2011-10-12 17:09:10 <redss> just got the above error message with exe
631 2011-10-12 17:09:14 <redss> will try zip again now
632 2011-10-12 17:09:28 <gavinandresen> redss: your disk isn't full, is it?
633 2011-10-12 17:09:59 <redss> no, I test downloaded several other files, both EXE and zip
634 2011-10-12 17:10:01 <redss> both work....
635 2011-10-12 17:10:20 <sipa> maybe some over-eager virus scanner?
636 2011-10-12 17:10:30 <redss> still getting the error with zip  "Interrupted"
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639 2011-10-12 17:11:48 <gavinandresen> You sure you're trying to open a new download?  did you erase the old, failed ones first?
640 2011-10-12 17:12:02 <gavinandresen> (just checking stuff that has bit me in the butt before....)
641 2011-10-12 17:13:08 <redss> sipa, already checked, but will turn all of that off now
642 2011-10-12 17:13:33 <redss> good call, gavin, I'll erase old failed ones, but yes, trying only to open new download
643 2011-10-12 17:13:33 <gavinandresen> Downloads from sourceforge seem to be working for me, checksums match.  (is there a shasum command on windows?)
644 2011-10-12 17:13:50 <redss> don't know about shasum
645 2011-10-12 17:17:49 <lianj> gavinandresen: got it, thanks!
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676 2011-10-12 18:47:29 <cut> http://lukemcreynolds.com/files/wallpaper/GNU.jpg
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686 2011-10-12 19:06:17 <b4epoche> anyone else having trouble building Qt version on a Mac?
687 2011-10-12 19:07:36 Lopuz has joined
688 2011-10-12 19:09:26 <b4epoche> nm…  found the .pro file
689 2011-10-12 19:11:08 Raccoon has joined
690 2011-10-12 19:11:43 <b4epoche> well, that also didn't work…  quake made a pbproj bundle instead of a makefile
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693 2011-10-12 19:17:19 <b4epoche> ah, I see…  Qt4 binary from Nokia for OSX defaults to making an old Xcode project
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701 2011-10-12 19:32:22 <luke-jr> aren't there 0.5 binaries somewhere yet?
702 2011-10-12 19:33:46 <sipa> not yet
703 2011-10-12 19:33:51 <luke-jr> how long? -.-
704 2011-10-12 19:33:59 <sipa> a few days, i guess
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706 2011-10-12 19:34:28 <luke-jr> too long -.-
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710 2011-10-12 19:44:18 <ressd> how do I change the language of the client?
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773 2011-10-12 21:48:32 <darbsllim> Hey guys jus tpositing about these 2 bitcoin businesses for sale
774 2011-10-12 21:48:34 <darbsllim> if anyone is interested!
775 2011-10-12 21:48:35 <darbsllim> https://flippa.com/2654070-freebitcoins-org-established-bitcoin-site-17-000-users-fully-automated
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777 2011-10-12 21:48:51 <darbsllim> https://flippa.com/2651866-forbitcoin-com-established-bitcoin-site-fully-automated-bonus-domain
778 2011-10-12 21:51:16 <AlexWaters> gavinandresen: alright to PM you?
779 2011-10-12 21:54:11 <AlexWaters> gavinandresen: nvm i'll email
780 2011-10-12 22:01:06 <Diablo-D3> ;;bc,mtgox
781 2011-10-12 22:01:07 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":4.45,"low":3.89739,"avg":4.031337692,"vwap":4.06090145,"vol":68105,"last_all":4,"last_local":4,"last":4,"buy":3.99981,"sell":4}}
782 2011-10-12 22:02:15 <CIA-101> bitcoin: jedi95 * r66287e7493df Phoenix-Miner/ (Miner.py minerutil/_newclient3420.py minerutil/client3420.py): Fixed issue with immediate disconnects on RPC servers not implementing persistent connections.
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800 2011-10-12 22:34:15 <TuxBlackEdo> hey
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831 2011-10-12 23:46:41 <luke-jr> slush: you're down or smth
832 2011-10-12 23:47:13 <slush> yes, DDoS
833 2011-10-12 23:47:27 <slush> biggest attack so far
834 2011-10-12 23:48:08 <kinlo> what kind of ddos?
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836 2011-10-12 23:48:33 <slush> kinlo: probably SYN flood
837 2011-10-12 23:48:38 <kinlo> ic
838 2011-10-12 23:49:31 <kinlo> mmz, is it a logical attack, or just more bw then your server has?
839 2011-10-12 23:49:43 <luke-jr> ,,,
840 2011-10-12 23:49:43 <gribble> Error: "," is not a valid command.
841 2011-10-12 23:49:46 <luke-jr> SYN floods are nothing
842 2011-10-12 23:50:03 <luke-jr> unless it's simply too much bandwidth like kinlo said
843 2011-10-12 23:50:16 <kinlo> syn floods is where syncookies come into play
844 2011-10-12 23:50:23 <luke-jr> yep
845 2011-10-12 23:50:26 <kinlo> and you should be able to deal with it that way
846 2011-10-12 23:50:28 <luke-jr> and who doesn't have that on all the time?
847 2011-10-12 23:50:53 <slush> luke-jr but it IS large scale. It is even killing london datacenter
848 2011-10-12 23:51:02 <luke-jr> :O
849 2011-10-12 23:51:16 <kinlo> slush: so basicly a flood attack, regardless of the type or contents of the packets...
850 2011-10-12 23:51:25 <slush> yes
851 2011-10-12 23:51:31 <kinlo> ic
852 2011-10-12 23:51:32 <kinlo> scary
853 2011-10-12 23:51:44 <kinlo> any idea who's behind those attacks?
854 2011-10-12 23:51:56 <slush> no, but deepbit is down for many hours too
855 2011-10-12 23:52:02 <slush> so I'm not taking it personally :)
856 2011-10-12 23:52:03 <kinlo> I know
857 2011-10-12 23:52:06 <kinlo> hehe
858 2011-10-12 23:52:09 <slush> And attacker is here on forum or IRC
859 2011-10-12 23:52:13 <slush> nice to meet you :)
860 2011-10-12 23:52:25 <kinlo> they usually are
861 2011-10-12 23:52:34 <Graet> yep
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