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  13 2011-10-14 00:22:18 <avengre> Is there a binary floating around for Windows Bitcoin 0.5?
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  25 2011-10-14 00:43:47 <luke-jr_> avengre: I just posted some
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  39 2011-10-14 01:16:21 <avengre> luke-jr_: now considering i'm still kinda noob.. how can i use that with the same wallet as bitcoin 0.4? or at least the same addresses
  40 2011-10-14 01:17:48 <luke-jr_> avengre: just run it
  41 2011-10-14 01:19:13 <avengre> wow bit UI changes to say the least
  42 2011-10-14 01:19:37 <luke-jr_> UI is completely rewritten
  43 2011-10-14 01:27:20 <avengre> i like it, takes a lil to get used to (I liked having a current address on the front page
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  59 2011-10-14 02:07:02 <luke-jr> FYI, just had a report of Bitcoin-Qt 0.5.0rc1 corrupting a user's wallet
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  61 2011-10-14 02:10:10 <luke-jr> ;;bc,stats
  62 2011-10-14 02:10:13 <gribble> Current Blocks: 149185 | Current Difficulty: 1468195.4272208 | Next Difficulty At Block: 151199 | Next Difficulty In: 2014 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3274791.43564312 | Estimated Percent Change: 123.048742349
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  64 2011-10-14 02:10:49 <avengre> woo 123% increase
  65 2011-10-14 02:10:50 <avengre> lol
  66 2011-10-14 02:10:53 <avengre> sounds legit
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  73 2011-10-14 02:16:21 <Graet> <grubles_> yep, time for the freak out everyone has right after a block change and the difficulty estimates are going crazy. it always happens. <, cbf retyping it but that
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 211 2011-10-14 06:31:23 <MimeNarrator> I want to build bitcoin from source on windows. Where do I find the "dependencies archive" mentioned in readme-qt.rst?
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 213 2011-10-14 06:32:18 <MimeNarrator> nevermind, had I read a little further I'd have found the answer lol.
 214 2011-10-14 06:32:19 <luke-jr> MimeNarrator: good luck
 215 2011-10-14 06:32:29 <luke-jr> I don't think any of the active developers use Windows
 216 2011-10-14 06:32:42 <luke-jr> afaik I'm the only one who has managed to make a working 0.5 binary, and I built it on Linux
 217 2011-10-14 06:33:05 <MimeNarrator> well I guess we'll find out if I can lol
 218 2011-10-14 06:33:34 <MimeNarrator> I could work in linux if I had to but if I can get it to work with windows that would be convenient.
 219 2011-10-14 06:34:08 <theymos> Ironically, the very first version of Bitcoin was Windows-only.
 220 2011-10-14 06:36:50 <MimeNarrator> Starting a project on windows seems to be much easier than getting all the necessary dependendies to get an established project to compile on windows later. With linux, getting the dependencies set up right seems to be easier, at least in my experience
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 292 2011-10-14 08:51:54 <archevety> why is the source on both sourceforge and github?
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 299 2011-10-14 08:59:05 <tcatm> archevety: we switched from sf to github a while ago. the code on sf is not updated anymore
 300 2011-10-14 09:02:02 <theymos> I prefer the SourceForge web code viewer. It loads much faster.
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 306 2011-10-14 09:06:18 <archevety> are there some good tools for adding new locale in qt?
 307 2011-10-14 09:06:24 <tcatm> it looks like sf supports git so maybe it's possible to automatically push from github to sf
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 394 2011-10-14 11:20:35 <gribble> I have not seen fellowtraveller.
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 461 2011-10-14 12:36:52 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: hearn@google.com * r231 /trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
 462 2011-10-14 12:36:52 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Patch 5 from Steves lazy parsing patchset:
 463 2011-10-14 12:36:52 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Optimise BitcoinSerialiser for Transactions. When calculating checksum on
 464 2011-10-14 12:36:52 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: deserialize use it prepopulate the transaction's hash. Likewise on serialize
 465 2011-10-14 12:36:53 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: check if the Transaction already has a hash and use that to write checksum
 466 2011-10-14 12:36:53 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: bytes. This yields performance improvesment up to 400% by saving on a double
 467 2011-10-14 12:36:54 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: hash.
 468 2011-10-14 12:39:08 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: hearn@google.com * r232 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
 469 2011-10-14 12:39:08 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Patch 6 from Steves lazy parsing patchset:
 470 2011-10-14 12:39:08 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Deduping related optimizations. This code will be removed later.
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 474 2011-10-14 12:39:59 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Patch 7 from Steves lazy parsing patchset:
 475 2011-10-14 12:39:59 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Some changes to SpeedTest. This code can be removed later.
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 481 2011-10-14 12:45:42 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Patch 8 from Steves lazy parsing patchset.
 482 2011-10-14 12:45:42 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: More optimizations: pre-calculate or guess various array sizes to avoid needlessly re-sizing them later.
 483 2011-10-14 12:45:42 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Sha256Hash caches the hashCode.
 484 2011-10-14 12:45:42 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Message classes now track their (estimated) length even when not using deserialization-related constructors.
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 489 2011-10-14 12:49:20 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Patch 9 from Steves lazy parsing patchset.
 490 2011-10-14 12:49:20 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Add UnsafeByteArrayOutputStream. ByteArrayOutputStreams are used extensively and result in a lot of short lived byte arrays.
 491 2011-10-14 12:49:20 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: This patch contains two optimizations
 492 2011-10-14 12:49:20 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: 1/ attempt to provide the final length to ByteArrayOutputStream constructor to
 493 2011-10-14 12:49:20 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: avoid constantly resizing the backing array. Default size is 32 which means
 494 2011-10-14 12:49:21 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: larger messages may require several array reallocations and almost all will
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 498 2011-10-14 12:51:02 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Patch 10 from Steves lazy parsing patchset.
 499 2011-10-14 12:51:02 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Customize Sha256Hash.hashCode() method to only use first n bytes of the backing
 500 2011-10-14 12:51:02 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: array. This provides uniqueness to 256^n combinations. As hashcode is not
 501 2011-10-14 12:51:02 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: required to be guaranteed unique this fulfills the contract and reduces hashing
 502 2011-10-14 12:51:02 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: time.
 503 2011-10-14 12:51:03 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Use case is for applications that do a lot of mapping by Sha256Hash. Each put and get require several hashcode operations. Cached hashcode is already implemented in 8.patch.
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 508 2011-10-14 12:53:28 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Patch 11 from Steves lazy parsing patchset.
 509 2011-10-14 12:53:28 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Cache checksum for non-empty messages.
 510 2011-10-14 12:53:28 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: VersionMessage and AddressMessage require some special handling. VersionMessage because it's never lazy parsed or cached. AddressMessage because when serializing PeerAddresses the time field is dynamic.
 511 2011-10-14 12:53:28 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Checksum byte array is currently transient so no gains for a message extracted from java serialization then bitcoinSerialized. I don't think this would ever happen in real life but if it does then it could al
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 528 2011-10-14 13:19:02 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: hearn@google.com * r238 /trunk/src/com/google/bitcoin/ (51 files in 4 dirs):
 529 2011-10-14 13:19:02 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: Reformat the codebase, this is pretty much whatever IntelliJ thinks the code should look like.
 530 2011-10-14 13:19:02 <CIA-101> bitcoinj: This will unfortunately break all patches, but it has to be done at some point.
 531 2011-10-14 13:19:19 <Diablo-D3> >intellij
 532 2011-10-14 13:19:24 <Diablo-D3> >not eclipse
 533 2011-10-14 13:19:26 <Diablo-D3> lies, all lies
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 536 2011-10-14 13:20:25 <Diablo-D3> >break patches on git
 537 2011-10-14 13:20:27 <Diablo-D3> lies, all lies
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 614 2011-10-14 14:26:50 <cosurgi> [Tycho]: wow, you have .996
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 622 2011-10-14 14:32:45 <sipa> cosurgi: optimally you have 65535/65536
 623 2011-10-14 14:33:13 <sipa> as most pools' shares are not difficulty one, but difficulty .9999847
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 627 2011-10-14 14:37:58 <cosurgi> sipa: ok
 628 2011-10-14 14:38:03 <cosurgi> sipa: did you check for btcguild?
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 636 2011-10-14 14:46:28 <nathan7> BADING-BOOM.
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 638 2011-10-14 14:46:53 <UukGoblin> can I have your bitcoins
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 673 2011-10-14 15:26:55 <BlueMatt> anyone else find github's new design significantly worse than it used to be?
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 675 2011-10-14 15:27:36 <terrytibbs> BlueMatt: Not sure, having a hard time getting used to it. But I appreciate some of the new features they've added.
 676 2011-10-14 15:27:58 <BlueMatt> some stuff they've hidden in random places so that its hard to find (not just hard to get used to)
 677 2011-10-14 15:28:15 <BlueMatt> and the overall design and cleanliness seems much worse to me...
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 680 2011-10-14 15:36:10 <BlueMatt> can we stop calling it bitcoin-qt and just call it bitcoin now?
 681 2011-10-14 15:36:36 <UukGoblin> BlueMatt, it appears yes
 682 2011-10-14 15:36:47 <UukGoblin> 162207 <+rapeghost> who cares about encryption
 683 2011-10-14 15:36:47 <UukGoblin> 162212 <+rapeghost> its just ugly
 684 2011-10-14 15:37:05 <BlueMatt> and by that I meant gavinandresen, can I just change all the references to bitcoin-qt to bitocin while Im updating makefiles/gitian descriptors/etc?
 685 2011-10-14 15:37:08 <BlueMatt> also, where is gavin?
 686 2011-10-14 15:37:13 <BlueMatt> ;;seen gavinandresen
 687 2011-10-14 15:37:13 <gribble> gavinandresen was last seen in #bitcoin-dev 1 day, 0 hours, 47 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <gavinandresen> no news
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 690 2011-10-14 15:39:34 <UukGoblin> it's not ugly to me at all
 691 2011-10-14 15:39:37 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: no, no client should ever be called bitcoin
 692 2011-10-14 15:39:43 <UukGoblin> but I only use it via rpc
 693 2011-10-14 15:40:04 <luke-jr> bitcoin is the technology/protocol
 694 2011-10-14 15:40:38 <luke-jr> if you rename bitcoin-qt, I'll rename spesmilo too. and you'll be to blame for the confusion.
 695 2011-10-14 15:40:58 <terrytibbs> nothing like a good ole' thread
 696 2011-10-14 15:41:01 <terrytibbs> threat
 697 2011-10-14 15:41:06 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: ...
 698 2011-10-14 15:41:22 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: I was mostly asking if I could to keep existing scripts etc working as wxui was called bitcoin
 699 2011-10-14 15:41:33 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: it shouldn't have been
 700 2011-10-14 15:41:38 <luke-jr> and they're not scriptable
 701 2011-10-14 15:41:39 <luke-jr> they're GUIs
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 703 2011-10-14 15:42:56 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: should have been originally and shouldnt have been originally are different than should be in the next release and shouldnt be in the next release
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 706 2011-10-14 15:43:27 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: it's simply the first release of Bitcoin-Qt that is coming from you guys.
 707 2011-10-14 15:43:42 <luke-jr> totally independent from wxBitcoin
 708 2011-10-14 15:43:49 <BlueMatt> ...not really
 709 2011-10-14 15:43:52 <luke-jr> yes really
 710 2011-10-14 15:43:53 <BlueMatt> its bitcoin v0.5 instead of 0.4
 711 2011-10-14 15:44:05 <luke-jr> no, it's Bitcoin-Qt 0.5
 712 2011-10-14 15:44:20 <BlueMatt> ...
 713 2011-10-14 15:44:27 <luke-jr> and some wx lover might come along and take up maintaining wxBitcoin and release its 0.5 someday
 714 2011-10-14 15:45:06 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: stop trying to act like you have a monopoly on Bitcoin
 715 2011-10-14 15:45:18 <luke-jr> it's a technology, not a centralized group of developers working on a single client
 716 2011-10-14 15:46:35 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: Im not, Im saying that bitcoin-qt is a replacement for wxbitcoin, whether its wxbitcoin or bitcoin-qt the exe name was bitcoin and imo should continue to be
 717 2011-10-14 15:47:12 <nathan7> UukGoblin: no
 718 2011-10-14 15:47:33 <pierce> bitcoin needs more proper smartcard based wallets
 719 2011-10-14 15:47:38 <nathan7> well fuck
 720 2011-10-14 15:47:39 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: Spesmilo is also a replacement for wxBitcoin.
 721 2011-10-14 15:47:42 <nathan7> Are things going down again? :|
 722 2011-10-14 15:47:51 <pierce> plug in pkcs15 dongle to send transactions etc
 723 2011-10-14 15:47:59 <luke-jr> nathan7: no?
 724 2011-10-14 15:48:24 <nathan7> Last time I checked I had €110 in bitcoins.
 725 2011-10-14 15:48:28 <nathan7> and I have gained coins since
 726 2011-10-14 15:48:34 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: ...
 727 2011-10-14 15:48:35 <nathan7> Now I have €90
 728 2011-10-14 15:49:02 <pierce> man I wish I had 90 boomerangs
 729 2011-10-14 15:49:11 <pierce> I'm in a weird mood this morning
 730 2011-10-14 15:49:36 <nathan7> =[
 731 2011-10-14 15:50:49 <pierce> so the financial stability of the EU is improving slightly faster than the financial stability of the bitcoin economy
 732 2011-10-14 15:51:14 <imsaguy2> its pretty stable around $4
 733 2011-10-14 15:51:14 <BlueMatt> heh, are you surprised?
 734 2011-10-14 15:51:26 <BlueMatt> the financial stability of bitcoin is gona happen...probably never
 735 2011-10-14 15:51:36 <pierce> :-O
 736 2011-10-14 15:51:37 <BlueMatt> maybe in the next decade, if we get really lucky
 737 2011-10-14 15:51:42 <luke-jr> …
 738 2011-10-14 15:51:52 <gmaxwell> An enconomy with millions and millions of people vs some tens of thousands?
 739 2011-10-14 15:52:09 <BlueMatt> exactly
 740 2011-10-14 15:52:21 <pierce> BlueMatt: forming a viable and stable economy in 10 years .. even that would be a pretty amazing accomplishment
 741 2011-10-14 15:52:23 <BlueMatt> functional vs experimental
 742 2011-10-14 15:52:33 <BlueMatt> pierce: hence why I said probably never ;)
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 744 2011-10-14 15:52:55 <pierce> meh, it's working now, so I'm not too worried
 745 2011-10-14 15:53:16 <pierce> just keep buy and selling things for coins, and don't try hoarding and saving them, and you will be fine
 746 2011-10-14 15:53:53 <Graet> i can supply boomerangs for btc
 747 2011-10-14 15:53:54 <Graet> :P
 748 2011-10-14 15:54:07 <BlueMatt> and people seem to think we have some kind of liquidity...
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 755 2011-10-14 16:00:51 <BlueMatt-mobile> Alright I give up, if someone writs
 756 2011-10-14 16:01:03 <BlueMatt-mobile> God damn swype...
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 762 2011-10-14 16:04:13 <BlueMatt-mobile> If someone writes a proper bitcoin central-hub header/interface, I'll implement it and modularize bitcoin
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 767 2011-10-14 16:09:11 <luke-jr> BlueMatt-mobile: huh?
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 769 2011-10-14 16:09:51 <BlueMatt-mobile> Luke-jr did you never see the CHub header
 770 2011-10-14 16:10:05 <BlueMatt-mobile> That I posted a few times
 771 2011-10-14 16:10:06 <luke-jr> …
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 773 2011-10-14 16:10:22 <BlueMatt-mobile> ...guess not
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 776 2011-10-14 16:11:24 <phantomcircuit> BlueMatt-mobile, CHub ?
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 779 2011-10-14 16:12:32 <BlueMatt-mobile> I'm pretty sure this is an old version but: http://pastebin.com/RDw94V1r
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 781 2011-10-14 16:13:21 <BlueMatt-mobile> The idea was to modularize bitcoin the way it should have been all along
 782 2011-10-14 16:13:47 <BlueMatt-mobile> I got quite a ways on implementing it too
 783 2011-10-14 16:15:26 <BlueMatt-mobile> The thing is that the interface (what I just linked) looked like something a first grader came up with
 784 2011-10-14 16:15:40 <phantomcircuit> so it's just a callback mechanism
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 786 2011-10-14 16:16:18 <BlueMatt-mobile> Sort of, but I rewrote bitcoins internals to use it
 787 2011-10-14 16:16:45 <sipa> it's a message passing + callback system, indeed
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 791 2011-10-14 16:19:29 <BlueMatt-mobile> Bitcoin very clearly falls into several pieces: wallet, p2p, rpc, etc
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 798 2011-10-14 16:21:47 <devrandom> BlueMatt-mobile: the bad bitcoin-qt windows exe - was that generated in a gitian VM (lucid) or on natty?
 799 2011-10-14 16:22:16 <BlueMatt-mobile> Natty non-gitian
 800 2011-10-14 16:23:20 <devrandom> maybe a bug introduced into mingw on natty?  try lucid?
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 806 2011-10-14 16:31:55 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: so what problem are you having making bins?
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 808 2011-10-14 16:32:02 <luke-jr> as you may have noticed, WFM
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 810 2011-10-14 16:33:30 <BlueMatt> saw that, yea its clearly very ubuntu-mingw specific
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 812 2011-10-14 16:33:51 <BlueMatt> Im gonna try again with gitian and just skip doing it myself for now, but Ive gotta do that a bit later...
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 817 2011-10-14 16:42:18 <devrandom> maybe a bug introduced into mingw on natty?  try lucid?
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 819 2011-10-14 16:42:21 <devrandom> (or gitian)
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 826 2011-10-14 16:49:24 <luke-jr> devrandom: Gentoo seems to work :p
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 848 2011-10-14 17:10:33 <devrandom> luke-jr: need to be repeatable, otherwise people will say "WFM" ;)
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 851 2011-10-14 17:19:38 <luke-jr> it would be nice if git shows revision ids like bzr
 852 2011-10-14 17:19:42 <luke-jr> showed*
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 856 2011-10-14 17:27:20 <Ycros> it would be nice if git wasn't retarded
 857 2011-10-14 17:27:27 <Ycros> :P
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 909 2011-10-14 18:36:20 <BCBot>  Stats: http://bit.ly/bitcoin-irc-stats
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 960 2011-10-14 20:01:09 <HaltingState> omfg; solidcoin has trojans in it?!
 961 2011-10-14 20:03:31 <HaltingState> has the trojan been confirmed or is it just forum speculation right now
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 963 2011-10-14 20:04:47 <lianj> wth is solidcoin, why
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 965 2011-10-14 20:06:06 <HaltingState> some bitcoin knockoff chain with a trojan in it or something
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 967 2011-10-14 20:06:35 <lianj> "51% protection algorithm" lol, yay
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 969 2011-10-14 20:07:17 <HaltingState> http://i.imgur.com/4J0Fr.png
 970 2011-10-14 20:07:25 <lianj> "4 decimal points instead of 8, making it easier to view amounts" - major feature
 971 2011-10-14 20:07:47 <HaltingState> 'SolidCoin: Officially The most secure P2P Cryptocurrency'
 972 2011-10-14 20:07:54 <HaltingState> 'Protected against the security flaws which inflict cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, SolidCoin is now the most secure, ready to take on big business as it battles it's way to the top of the P2P cryptocurrencies.'
 973 2011-10-14 20:08:09 <HaltingState> lolz; very secure with that trojan in it! http://bit.ly/pao3lK
 974 2011-10-14 20:08:13 <Ycros> trojan?
 975 2011-10-14 20:08:34 <HaltingState> ya
 976 2011-10-14 20:08:37 <HaltingState> http://i.imgur.com/4J0Fr.png
 977 2011-10-14 20:08:50 <Ycros> that doesn't mean much
 978 2011-10-14 20:08:59 <HaltingState> people quantied and firewalled the windows exe and noticed that it was accessing weird http servers
 979 2011-10-14 20:09:17 <HaltingState> and the code is officiated and the client lies about hashing rate
 980 2011-10-14 20:09:30 <HaltingState> has not been reverse engineered yet, but likely to be trojan
 981 2011-10-14 20:09:33 <Ycros> cute, has anyone reverse engineered the binary yet?
 982 2011-10-14 20:09:56 <terrytibbs> pow!
 983 2011-10-14 20:10:02 <lianj> "Will SolidCoin replace Bitcoin? - Most likely yes. Due to lack of development, lack of listening to users and the many flaws which still exist in Bitcoin to this very day it seems very likely only a currency which improves on this things will survive."
 984 2011-10-14 20:10:09 * lianj giggles
 985 2011-10-14 20:10:13 <HaltingState> this guy is crackhead
 986 2011-10-14 20:10:22 <HaltingState> he banned me from #solidcoin because i asked about some security flaw
 987 2011-10-14 20:10:40 <lianj> just dont spent any time on it
 988 2011-10-14 20:11:30 <HaltingState> 'One initial problem with this p2p security feature is SolidCoin only had 1.112 million coins prior to this security feature being implemented. To solve this, 10 accounts of 1.2 million were created in the genesis block. These are special accounts that cannot be spent on the network, effectively making them "Null accounts used for special purposes", until SolidCoin does have real millionaires.'
 989 2011-10-14 20:11:37 <HaltingState> 'Why can you trust someone with a million dollar account? Simply because if they have that many coins they are well invested into the SolidCoin system'
 990 2011-10-14 20:12:01 <HaltingState> etc, the owner gets all the coins and has the ability to fsck everyone else over when he feels like it and if he is "hacked"
 991 2011-10-14 20:12:11 <HaltingState> and there is a trojan in exe on top of that
 992 2011-10-14 20:12:20 <Ycros> what is this, quote solidcoin's site day?
 993 2011-10-14 20:12:26 <HaltingState> http://solidcoin.info/solidcoin-most-secure-currency.php
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 995 2011-10-14 20:12:41 <HaltingState> ya, realsolid announces that solidcoin is "most secure cytocurrency" lolz
 996 2011-10-14 20:12:51 <lianj> Ycros: ya, sorry
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1000 2011-10-14 20:15:34 <gmaxwell> HaltingState: It's awesome newspeak. It's secure against the 51% attack by making every moment a "51%" attack.
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1002 2011-10-14 20:15:59 <midnightmagic> huh? what the hell does that mean?
1003 2011-10-14 20:18:11 <copumpkin> we trust the person with the most money
1004 2011-10-14 20:18:12 <copumpkin> lol
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1007 2011-10-14 20:21:44 <gmaxwell> copumpkin: nah, it's not even that.
1008 2011-10-14 20:21:51 <copumpkin> I know, I just find it amusing
1009 2011-10-14 20:22:45 <gmaxwell> midnightmagic: every other block must be mined by a trusted party.  In _theory_ people other than realsolid could be trusted parties....
1010 2011-10-14 20:23:46 <gmaxwell> However every trust block mined gives 3.6 SC from the trusted party to RS plus 3.6SC from thin air to RS. So RS, who currently has 10 trusted party accounts has a significant advantage in being the trusted parties.
1011 2011-10-14 20:24:41 <gmaxwell> The trusted parties in solidcoin have more power than >50% attackers in bitcoin. They can do everything 50% attackers can do, plus they can stop the production of new blocks entirely.
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1014 2011-10-14 20:30:56 <copumpkin> but they're rich!
1015 2011-10-14 20:30:58 <copumpkin> it's okay
1016 2011-10-14 20:31:56 <gmaxwell> copumpkin: SC has unlimited inflation now— so eventually they won't be rich at all. :)
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1018 2011-10-14 20:32:39 <copumpkin> ZimbabweCoin
1019 2011-10-14 20:33:06 <rjk2> hahaha
1020 2011-10-14 20:35:33 <lianj> bazinga!
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1038 2011-10-14 21:06:04 <pierce> I would totally buy zimbabwe cash with bitcoin, someone needs to get on that
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1040 2011-10-14 21:06:36 <pierce> I want a 10 kilo brick of billion dollar bills
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1042 2011-10-14 21:09:52 <rjk2> lol yes, nice souvenir
1043 2011-10-14 21:11:36 <copumpkin> pierce: someone already does that
1044 2011-10-14 21:12:12 <imsaguy> you beat me to it copumpkin
1045 2011-10-14 21:12:28 <imsaguy> I dunno if you can get a 10kilo brick of it
1046 2011-10-14 21:12:31 <imsaguy> they are selling by the bill
1047 2011-10-14 21:12:36 <copumpkin> http://thatuselessguy.com/
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1049 2011-10-14 21:12:46 <copumpkin> he comes on IRC every so often
1050 2011-10-14 21:12:51 <copumpkin> machine2: is it spam time again?
1051 2011-10-14 21:13:05 <imsaguy> heh
1052 2011-10-14 21:13:13 <imsaguy> its in the forums
1053 2011-10-14 21:14:19 <pierce> *bookmarked*
1054 2011-10-14 21:14:20 <pierce> awesome
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1093 2011-10-14 22:07:09 <midnightmagic> so.. uh.. he's just forcing all the "trusted" miners to mine directly into his pocket, and it must happen every second block?
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1096 2011-10-14 22:07:41 <midnightmagic> better yet, is this described somewhere so I can point and laugh?
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1099 2011-10-14 22:09:28 <gmaxwell> midnightmagic: it's not just into his pocket, it's half from their pocket half from thin air. And it's every other block, yes.
1100 2011-10-14 22:10:04 <gmaxwell> But those are difficulty 1— wouldn't want the >50%ers to actually have to have significant hash power.
1101 2011-10-14 22:11:01 <midnightmagic> ah so when you said the "trusted miners" have >50% hashpower, they don't really, they just have the power to act as though they have a guaranteed 50% block chain hashrate.
1102 2011-10-14 22:11:39 <gmaxwell> Yes. Correct. It's functionally identical (they can pick the winning chain at their whim) they don't actually have a supermajority hash power.
1103 2011-10-14 22:12:11 <gmaxwell> That would be costly... and this system is based on trusting the rich, who (you know) can't afford hash power of their own... er. wait. um.
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1105 2011-10-14 22:14:13 <midnightmagic> we are assuming "he" is rich because we think he has millions of solidcoins at his disposal and the current exchange rate between SC and bitcoin sits around 0.0067? (So 1m SC = ~$26800 in USD)
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1108 2011-10-14 22:15:02 <copumpkin> that doesn't really apply though
1109 2011-10-14 22:15:12 <copumpkin> you want the volume under the depth curve :P
1110 2011-10-14 22:15:15 <midnightmagic> no because dumping would sell down to nothing. :)
1111 2011-10-14 22:15:24 <gmaxwell> well I was referring to the whitepaper that basically said the system was based on trusting the most wealthy solidcoiners
1112 2011-10-14 22:17:00 <gmaxwell> I wonder what cool things would happen if two trust accounts got in a war?  Because the diff for those blocks is fixed at one they could bat the identity of the winning chain around quite a bit.
1113 2011-10-14 22:17:42 <imsaguy> thats why there there's more than 2
1114 2011-10-14 22:17:51 <imsaguy> oops, extra there
1115 2011-10-14 22:19:12 <gmaxwell> Thats missing the point.
1116 2011-10-14 22:20:06 <midnightmagic> lame..
1117 2011-10-14 22:20:20 <gmaxwell> It doesn't matter how many there are— the difficulty never goes up for those blocks no matter how much hash power those users have... so if there is disagreement there will be many conflicting blocks in those positions.
1118 2011-10-14 22:21:14 <gmaxwell> e.g. if there are 10 of those people (as far as I can tell there is really only one right now), then there may be 10 different versions of every other block in the network.
1119 2011-10-14 22:21:42 <gmaxwell> since at diff 1 it doesn't take much hash power to frequently find blocks faster than the network latency.
1120 2011-10-14 22:21:54 <gmaxwell> just ten gh or so.
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1122 2011-10-14 22:22:41 <gmaxwell> if they're all the same content it probably doesn't matter much, but if they're different and conflicting its a fun chance for respend attacks.
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1126 2011-10-14 22:23:33 <gmaxwell> looking at their block rate I think they also screwed up the difficulty calculation
1127 2011-10-14 22:23:59 <gmaxwell> e.g. I think it's ignoring the fact that every other block is half the difficulty and thus setting the difficulty to half the value it should be.
1128 2011-10-14 22:24:21 <gmaxwell> though, — hard to say without the source, they might have just halved the target time.
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1130 2011-10-14 22:26:42 <midnightmagic> knobs. the permissive licence allows it, but even still, trying to pull an Apple is bad form.
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1135 2011-10-14 22:29:10 <gmaxwell> midnightmagic: well, consider it a public service. If they didn't use a restrictive license and hide the source it would be harder to objectively demonstrate it to be a scam.
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1137 2011-10-14 22:29:53 <JFK911> to me hiding how it works proves its a scam
1138 2011-10-14 22:30:26 <gmaxwell> Thats what I'm saying.
1139 2011-10-14 22:31:11 <gmaxwell> (without the ability to see what the code actually is, you can't tell for sure how it works.  I suppose they could make the source visible but still stupidly licensed, proving they were dicks without proving that it was a scam.)
1140 2011-10-14 22:33:05 <gmaxwell> (not that I think closed software is automatically dickish in all cases.. but closing something when someone else wrote 99.999% is pretty much automatically dickish)
1141 2011-10-14 22:34:17 <midnightmagic> actually they can't relicence the source, that's illegal.
1142 2011-10-14 22:34:37 <midnightmagic> they just don't have to release their mods or the source, is all.
1143 2011-10-14 22:34:37 <gmaxwell> midnightmagic: they can restrictively license the parts they wrote.
1144 2011-10-14 22:35:59 <midnightmagic> hrm..  perhaps, but it's still a derivative work, so there's still certain controls that the original copyright owners could exercise in some countries.
1145 2011-10-14 22:36:16 <midnightmagic> canada has a moral-rights set of clauses for example that can't be given away or revoked.
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1147 2011-10-14 22:39:07 <midnightmagic> gmaxwell: There are also a pile of people who have expressed that sentiment to me about NetBSD and Wasabi.
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1151 2011-10-14 22:40:39 <gmaxwell> midnightmagic: I will never understand why people use highly permissive BSD style licenses when they had the option of using a copyleft license and would then try to present crazy legal arguments that in fact their license is a lot more like copyleft than people thing.
1152 2011-10-14 22:40:44 <gmaxwell> er think.
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1154 2011-10-14 22:41:29 <midnightmagic> lol you lost me. Example?
1155 2011-10-14 22:42:00 <midnightmagic> I know Theo is pretty rabid about making sure GPL authors don't strip copyrights off OpenBSD code.
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1157 2011-10-14 22:42:40 <midnightmagic> (there was a big kafuffle about that not so long ago, and I think Stallman invaded openbsd-misc with a bunch of flunkies and polluted it for.. like a month or two.. with head-to-head rants.
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1165 2011-10-14 22:57:57 <gmaxwell> midnightmagic: Not just "don't strip copyrights off" but he also gets bent about open source things with more restrictive licenses.
1166 2011-10-14 22:59:00 <gmaxwell> Which is like, duh, way to miss the point dude. The copyleft licences are distinguished from the bsd family precisely in tha they obstruct derivatives which are licensed under more restrictive licenses.
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