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 21 2011-11-09 01:20:04 <eueueue> Hi, what means "Not yet redeemed" here: http://blockexplorer.com/tx/695b68d04e4d5715c5ed7fb12555a29743e7caade518da3d002e75708e66fe56#o1
 22 2011-11-09 01:20:55 <eueueue> I use a bitcoin app for android, based on bitcoinj and this kind of message appear and I can't spend the btc
 23 2011-11-09 01:21:49 <eueueue> here too: http://blockexplorer.com/tx/f0924234408f91111366fdbc413225b083173502397fb09512d08160bae4da6d#o0
 24 2011-11-09 01:24:09 <graingert> it has yet to be spent
 25 2011-11-09 01:24:39 <eueueue> didn't understand
 26 2011-11-09 01:24:51 <graingert> you know bitcoin
 27 2011-11-09 01:25:04 <eueueue> i'm newbie
 28 2011-11-09 01:25:08 <graingert> IC
 29 2011-11-09 01:25:17 <graingert> bitcoin can be spent
 30 2011-11-09 01:25:27 <graingert> the output you have linked to
 31 2011-11-09 01:25:31 <graingert> has yet to be spent
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 34 2011-11-09 01:25:42 <eueueue> how to fix this situation?
 35 2011-11-09 01:25:51 <graingert> spend it
 36 2011-11-09 01:25:52 <eueueue> maybe is an app bug?
 37 2011-11-09 01:26:01 <graingert> it's not
 38 2011-11-09 01:26:15 <eueueue> http://code.google.com/p/bitcoin-wallet/issues/detail?id=57
 39 2011-11-09 01:26:58 <graingert> okay go to #bitcoin
 40 2011-11-09 01:27:07 <graingert> but you probably don't have all the blocks
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 42 2011-11-09 01:27:47 <eueueue> hum
 43 2011-11-09 01:27:57 <eueueue> why go to #bitcoin
 44 2011-11-09 01:28:04 <graingert> because this is not the place for it
 45 2011-11-09 01:28:23 <eueueue> but ok, will let the dev answer the bug report
 46 2011-11-09 01:28:34 <graingert> it's not a bug
 47 2011-11-09 01:28:49 <eueueue> that report was not mine
 48 2011-11-09 01:29:02 <eueueue> I just have the same problem
 49 2011-11-09 01:29:06 <graingert> oh
 50 2011-11-09 01:29:09 <eueueue> I rested the blockchain
 51 2011-11-09 01:29:12 <graingert> you probably both have the same problem
 52 2011-11-09 01:29:13 <eueueue> and transactions
 53 2011-11-09 01:29:27 <eueueue> reseted
 54 2011-11-09 01:29:34 <graingert> reseted?
 55 2011-11-09 01:29:40 <eueueue> yes
 56 2011-11-09 01:29:46 <eueueue> on android app
 57 2011-11-09 01:29:50 <graingert> !google reseted
 58 2011-11-09 01:29:50 <gribble> reseted's Channel - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/user/reseted>; Youtube channel views got reseted! - YouTube Help: <http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/youtube/thread?tid=783b4b6f597e75a1&hl=en>; I reseted my laptop but...? - Yahoo! Answers: <http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111005175114AAlNkVZ>
 59 2011-11-09 01:30:11 <eueueue> but did fix the problem
 60 2011-11-09 01:30:16 <eueueue> didn't
 61 2011-11-09 01:30:20 <graingert> reset
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 63 2011-11-09 01:30:34 <eueueue> sorry for my english
 64 2011-11-09 01:30:35 <graingert> reset is the past tense of the verb reset
 65 2011-11-09 01:31:01 <eueueue> ha ok, so no ed
 66 2011-11-09 01:31:24 <graingert> I don't quite know what your issue is
 67 2011-11-09 01:31:24 <eueueue> on the end
 68 2011-11-09 01:31:33 <eueueue> ok
 69 2011-11-09 01:31:36 <graingert> can you not send bitcoin? has a transaction not confirmed
 70 2011-11-09 01:32:02 <eueueue> I can't send and it's waiting for confirmation
 71 2011-11-09 01:32:33 <graingert> where can't you send to?
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 73 2011-11-09 01:33:30 <eueueue> any address
 74 2011-11-09 01:33:40 <eueueue> but ok
 75 2011-11-09 01:33:51 <eueueue> will see tomorrow what will be the answer
 76 2011-11-09 01:34:02 <graingert> this is a transaction that goes to me: http://blockexplorer.com/tx/86758c98b01d736bb96cf1b93df222f0d97305b5bc9ce771b984993ee9def7ca#o1
 77 2011-11-09 01:34:12 <graingert> see it is "Not yet redeemed"
 78 2011-11-09 01:34:19 <graingert> that just means I have yet to spend it
 79 2011-11-09 01:34:37 <eueueue> it's nor fee?
 80 2011-11-09 01:34:42 <eueueue> not
 81 2011-11-09 01:34:42 <graingert> WTF
 82 2011-11-09 01:34:57 <eueueue> what means wtf
 83 2011-11-09 01:34:59 <graingert> no it's not fee
 84 2011-11-09 01:35:14 <graingert> how many blocks have you got?
 85 2011-11-09 01:35:42 <eueueue> on android app doesn't appear this info
 86 2011-11-09 01:35:47 <eueueue> just say 100%
 87 2011-11-09 01:35:57 <eueueue> maybe is an app bug
 88 2011-11-09 01:36:02 <eueueue> lets wait
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 91 2011-11-09 01:37:39 <eueueue> hum
 92 2011-11-09 01:37:42 <eueueue> can be
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 99 2011-11-09 02:09:50 <CIA-89> libbitcoin: genjix * r02788edcf2b0 /src/transaction.cpp: foo%2 -> foo % 2 as per style guide.
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194 2011-11-09 05:17:52 <greatlight> hi
195 2011-11-09 05:18:22 <greatlight> Can anyone point me to someone who dev. sharepount
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201 2011-11-09 05:23:43 <CIA-89> poolserverj: shadders * 8258c2c059b7 r213 /poolserverj-main/src/main/java/com/shadworld/poolserver/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix nullpointer on unknown work
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225 2011-11-09 06:29:26 <CIA-89> poolserverj: shadders * e6abd1f01663 r214 /poolserverj-main/src/main/java/com/shadworld/poolserver/PoolServer.java: fix: not registering aux daemon http credentials with sharedClient
226 2011-11-09 06:29:26 <CIA-89> poolserverj: shadders * 88af072b1498 r215 /bitcoin-jsonrpc/src/main/java/com/shadworld/jsonrpc/JsonRpcClient.java: a little extra logging when failed to resolve auth credentials
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230 2011-11-09 06:48:56 <ThomasV> gmaxwell: https://gitorious.org/electrum/electrum/blobs/master/client/mnemonic.py#line1839
231 2011-11-09 06:49:40 <ThomasV> do you think it is safe?
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235 2011-11-09 06:59:10 <ThomasV> !later gmaxwell  https://gitorious.org/electrum/electrum/blobs/master/client/mnemonic.py#line1839 <-- safe against claim 3?
236 2011-11-09 06:59:11 <gribble> Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "gmaxwell" in it.  Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
237 2011-11-09 07:01:00 <ThomasV> !later tell gmaxwell  https://gitorious.org/electrum/electrum/blobs/master/client/mnemonic.py#line1839 <-- safe against claim 3?
238 2011-11-09 07:01:00 <gribble> The operation succeeded.
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256 2011-11-09 07:53:50 <CIA-89> bitcoin: Wladimir J. van der Laan master * r90b5aad / (7 files):
257 2011-11-09 07:53:50 <CIA-89> bitcoin: Merge pull request #611 from sipa/docs
258 2011-11-09 07:53:50 <CIA-89> bitcoin: Some extra comments - http://git.io/C8ZKOw
259 2011-11-09 07:54:43 <CIA-89> bitcoin: Wladimir J. van der Laan master * r3c0baa6 / doc/translation_process.md :
260 2011-11-09 07:54:43 <CIA-89> bitcoin: Merge pull request #617 from tcatm/translations-readme
261 2011-11-09 07:54:43 <CIA-89> bitcoin: add doc/translation_process.md - http://git.io/DJy2UQ
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263 2011-11-09 08:00:38 <pierce1> hey, does anyone have a paypal account who can help me test something in pm real quick?
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265 2011-11-09 08:02:07 <pierce> I can pay a few coins for your assistance :-D
266 2011-11-09 08:04:20 <CIA-89> bitcoin: phantomcircuit * r9ee38e52266a bitcoin-alt/postgresql.sql: make compatible with 8.x
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269 2011-11-09 08:14:24 <CIA-89> bitcoin: phantomcircuit * rbe1ec0a5521f bitcoin-alt/bitcoin.py: connect to real peers
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305 2011-11-09 10:35:16 <Eliel> hmm... an idea for private key import/export. Have the import/export format contain an indicator that says whether or not the keys were removed from the wallet after export.
306 2011-11-09 10:35:43 <Eliel> and of course, export function would give an option to remove the keys on export and set the flag.
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312 2011-11-09 10:47:33 <CIA-89> poolserverj: shadders * 7b4477d6d107 r216 /poolserverj-main/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
313 2011-11-09 10:47:33 <CIA-89> poolserverj: add testnet properties for payout addresses so you don't have to change them if you switch back and forth to testnet:
314 2011-11-09 10:47:33 <CIA-89> poolserverj: donationTarget.1.defaultAddress.testnet=mz8V2EDsoC24BrYPoNeGCHdcEdQrkvqYzT
315 2011-11-09 10:47:33 <CIA-89> poolserverj: source.local.1.localWorkGeneration.payoutAddress.testnet=mnn7vBgZgbCXMDts7zFf4xqEpiBWfMEQmQ
316 2011-11-09 10:47:33 <CIA-89> poolserverj: source.local.1.merged.namecoin.payoutAddress.testnet=mx591aR68CSawEH6WDAkzX9XEnrKjFdfuo
317 2011-11-09 10:47:33 <CIA-89> poolserverj: shadders * a05dc5968670 r217 /poolserverj-main/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
318 2011-11-09 10:47:34 <CIA-89> poolserverj: add a couple of optional data columns for share logging
319 2011-11-09 10:47:34 <CIA-89> poolserverj: 12 - unique_part TEXT or VARCHAR(88) - the part of solution that's unique in the block: merkleroot, time, difficulty, nonce
320 2011-11-09 10:47:35 <CIA-89> poolserverj:  13 - nonce TEXT or VARCHAR(8) - nonce in hex
321 2011-11-09 10:47:35 <CIA-89> poolserverj: shadders * 462e3aa8b60d r218 /poolserverj-main/src/main/java/com/shadworld/poolserver/db/shares/DefaultPreparedStatementSharesDBFlushEngine.java: javadoc for flushToDatabase
322 2011-11-09 10:48:02 <CIA-89> poolserverj: Jim Nelin <jim@jine.se * 69b970632b61 r219 /poolserverj-main/src/main/java/com/shadworld/poolserver/servlet/AbstractJsonRpcServlet.java: Fixed Server-header (lower- to uppercase) and changed formatting to standard Server-header.
323 2011-11-09 10:48:02 <CIA-89> poolserverj: Jim Nelin <jim@jine.se * 8a59aec3ee44 r220 /poolserverj-main/src/main/java/com/shadworld/poolserver/db/shares/DefaultPreparedStatementSharesDBFlushEngine.java: Make the solution field optional to save space and make inserts faster and smaller (ie. if mysql server is remote, not local).
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333 2011-11-09 11:22:52 <UukGoblin> someone made some bitcoin-moving visualization some time ago, haven't they?
334 2011-11-09 11:23:06 <UukGoblin> like, something to visualize how the money was being moved over time
335 2011-11-09 11:23:09 <UukGoblin> in 3d or something
336 2011-11-09 11:25:23 <Lolcust> UukGoblin I think I saw a 2d real time visualization, not 3d
337 2011-11-09 11:25:28 <UukGoblin> ok
338 2011-11-09 11:25:34 <UukGoblin> I'm not sure how many Ds it had
339 2011-11-09 11:25:37 <UukGoblin> just looking for a URL
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356 2011-11-09 12:00:34 <ThomasV> is the dev of bitcoinandroid on this channel?
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371 2011-11-09 12:45:09 <Edward_Black> UukGoblin , were you looking for this one http://www.bitcoinmonitor.com/ ?
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381 2011-11-09 13:09:55 <CIA-89> libbitcoin: genjix * r3d8aa33f6e44 / (5 files in 4 dirs): No need for return error_code in dialect when it throws exceptions.
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384 2011-11-09 13:14:57 <DrHaribo> How many destinations is it safe to use in a single RPC sendmany call to bitcoind?
385 2011-11-09 13:17:06 <tcatm> DrHaribo: There's not hard limit but it should throw an error when it's too many
386 2011-11-09 13:18:12 <DrHaribo> Thanks. Guess I can just try out some big numbers. :P
387 2011-11-09 13:18:22 <DrHaribo> Does the fee increase with the size of the transaction?
388 2011-11-09 13:23:51 <Diablo-D3> OVER NINE THOUSAND
389 2011-11-09 13:24:00 <Diablo-D3> DrHaribo: yes.
390 2011-11-09 13:24:17 <DrHaribo> :)
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392 2011-11-09 13:24:30 <Diablo-D3> but you have to consider its probably the same if you had sent many anyhow.
393 2011-11-09 13:25:31 <DrHaribo> So, smart way to send payments from a pool... 9000 payouts in one transaction, or split in multiple transactions?
394 2011-11-09 13:25:47 <DrHaribo> As long as the minimum fees are small, I guess it doesn't really matter.
395 2011-11-09 13:26:11 <Diablo-D3> it doesnt seem to matter
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404 2011-11-09 13:49:59 <CIA-89> libbitcoin: genjix * re35ef77c8e08 / (7 files in 5 dirs): seperate function for creating message headers.
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408 2011-11-09 13:52:13 <UukGoblin> Edward_Black, hm, perhaps
409 2011-11-09 13:52:19 <UukGoblin> thanks
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411 2011-11-09 13:54:35 <UukGoblin> hm, I was kinda hoping to see what happened with the early blocks' worth of coins
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418 2011-11-09 14:10:14 <shadders> Diablo-D3: do you do the hashrate updates in the pools forum?  If so what src data you use the calculate them?
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423 2011-11-09 14:34:08 <Diablo-D3> shadders: yes, I dont.
424 2011-11-09 14:34:11 <Diablo-D3> in that order.
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426 2011-11-09 14:38:05 <shadders> where you get the numbers from then?
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428 2011-11-09 14:38:41 <Diablo-D3> the websites directly
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439 2011-11-09 15:09:21 <CIA-89> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr * r797afec0d59f gentoo/net-p2p/ (4 files in 2 dirs): net-p2p/bitcoind and net-p2p/bitcoin-qt: 0.5.0_rc3
440 2011-11-09 15:13:42 <Diablo-D3> http://www.darkhorse.com/Blog/686/dark-horse-vs-dr-mcninja-vs-saxton-hale
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444 2011-11-09 15:19:23 <CIA-89> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr * rb1fd38621bb8 gentoo/net-p2p/bitcoind/ (Manifest bitcoind-0.4.1_rc2.ebuild): net-p2p/bitcoind-0.4.1_rc2
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450 2011-11-09 15:34:09 <yebyen> hey bitcoins
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452 2011-11-09 15:36:23 <smart1985> i want to sell http://btc-play.com Casino suite plz whisp me by intressted
453 2011-11-09 15:36:39 <yebyen> you are selling a casino suite?
454 2011-11-09 15:36:41 <smart1985> or skype smart9990
455 2011-11-09 15:36:42 <yebyen> what's it written in
456 2011-11-09 15:37:19 <yebyen> do you have craps
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459 2011-11-09 15:39:27 <smart1985> rouelette 3D , 2x BlackJack , 5 Slots and this evening a 50 to 50 game
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461 2011-11-09 15:39:54 <smart1985> no i dont have crap but i havent much time
462 2011-11-09 15:40:09 <smart1985> for all
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465 2011-11-09 15:49:42 <graingert> smart1985: this would be spam in #bitcoin
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467 2011-11-09 15:49:46 <graingert> let alone #bitcoin-dev
468 2011-11-09 15:50:06 <graingert> did you post to #bitcoin-* ?
469 2011-11-09 15:50:23 <graingert> nanotube: ^
470 2011-11-09 15:51:09 <smart1985> one post is = spam ?
471 2011-11-09 15:51:28 <sipa> well, at least it is off-topic
472 2011-11-09 15:51:48 <graingert> one email is spam
473 2011-11-09 15:52:38 <cjdelisle> heh if you were in my chan, my spam filter would have busted you
474 2011-11-09 15:52:54 <luke-jr> smart1985: you got the gamblign licenses?
475 2011-11-09 15:53:33 <graingert> luke-jr: I thought the bitcoin client included a free gambling license?
476 2011-11-09 15:53:37 <smart1985> for what ? the casino doesnt need a license in germany
477 2011-11-09 15:54:07 <cjdelisle> trick question since gambling is a sin and thus no legitiment licensing agencies issue gambling licenses.
478 2011-11-09 15:54:09 <smart1985> for chancing btc to money you need one
479 2011-11-09 15:54:42 <sipa> speculation is not gambling
480 2011-11-09 15:54:43 <smart1985> this isnt correct for all nation
481 2011-11-09 15:55:19 <sipa> but all this is irrelevant
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483 2011-11-09 15:55:30 <sipa> post it in the market section on the forum or something, not here
484 2011-11-09 15:57:23 <smart1985> why not here ? bitcoin Developer or ? and i sell a dev i think thats right to sell them here but interfere i break up
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489 2011-11-09 16:00:18 <graingert> try #bitcoin-de
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493 2011-11-09 16:10:33 <cjdelisle> try #hardware they love bitcoin
494 2011-11-09 16:12:38 <graingert> lul
495 2011-11-09 16:12:59 <graingert> I'm not even sure why
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497 2011-11-09 16:14:14 <SomeoneWeird> rofl
498 2011-11-09 16:14:15 <SomeoneWeird> " NO IDIOTS ALLOWED! ESPECIALLY BITCOIN MINERS! For bitcoin, join #retards"
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502 2011-11-09 16:19:10 <gmaxwell> I suspect anyone who would write "NO IDIOTS ALLOWED" in the topic really doesn't get IRC.
503 2011-11-09 16:19:29 <gmaxwell> - because the kind of idiots that you can _tell_ to go away are never the problematic ones. ;)
504 2011-11-09 16:20:02 <graingert> the best guess I have heard is that they are all nvidia fanbois
505 2011-11-09 16:22:38 <graingert> they don't seem to be overly AMD/nvidia either way
506 2011-11-09 16:22:50 <graingert> although they totally think I need it for mining
507 2011-11-09 16:22:58 <graingert> what can you do with sha256 that isn't mining?
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509 2011-11-09 16:23:18 <[eval]> brute-forcing passwords
510 2011-11-09 16:23:29 <[eval]> (for places that use sha-256)
511 2011-11-09 16:23:42 <sipa> and you have access to the hashed database
512 2011-11-09 16:23:48 <[eval]> yes
513 2011-11-09 16:24:08 <graingert> it's like they can smell the metalic zing of bitcoin on my fingers
514 2011-11-09 16:24:18 <graingert> also note that I'm in #bitcoin as well :p
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516 2011-11-09 16:25:20 <[eval]> you can also search for vanity addresses using sha256 and ripemd160 combined!
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545 2011-11-09 17:28:05 <eueueue> Hi, anyone can reproduce this problem: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/628
546 2011-11-09 17:28:14 <eueueue> I reported the bug now
547 2011-11-09 17:28:24 <eueueue> on Debian wheezy 64
548 2011-11-09 17:28:44 <eueueue> It's just me or happens with you?
549 2011-11-09 17:28:52 <eueueue> too
550 2011-11-09 17:30:16 <sipa> lots of bitcoin-qt issues all of a sudden
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552 2011-11-09 17:31:24 <eueueue> can you reproduce the bug sipa?
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554 2011-11-09 17:31:37 <sipa> too busy now
555 2011-11-09 17:31:59 <eueueue> ok
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575 2011-11-09 18:34:26 <CIA-89> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr * r44392a101742 gentoo/net-p2p/bitcoin-qt/ (Manifest bitcoin-qt-0.5.0_rc1.ebuild): net-p2p/bitcoin-qt-0.5.0_rc1: pruned
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628 2011-11-09 20:49:56 <CIA-89> libbitcoin: genjix * rc4e736adbcc0 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Fix some silly warnings.
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651 2011-11-09 22:19:22 <CIA-89> bitcoin: Kamil Domanski * rd3b16c24cfa2 gentoo/net-p2p/bitcoin-qt/ (Manifest bitcoin-qt-0.5.0_rc3.ebuild): net-p2p/bitcoin-qt-0.5.0_rc3: warn about removed language support
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656 2011-11-09 22:24:11 <CIA-89> poolserverj: shadders * a00ec5184b95 r222 /poolserverj-main/ (5 files in 4 dirs): add optional 'hash' column to share logging
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665 2011-11-09 22:49:51 <CIA-89> poolserverj: shadders * 118a81ad59a2 r223 /poolserverj-main/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
666 2011-11-09 22:49:51 <CIA-89> poolserverj: add optional share logging column:
667 2011-11-09 22:49:51 <CIA-89> poolserverj: 15 - unix_time BIGINTEGER
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670 2011-11-09 23:05:16 <CFSworks> How do the core developers feel about giving opportunistic encryption to the protocol?
671 2011-11-09 23:05:32 <cjdelisle> to what end?
672 2011-11-09 23:05:52 <CFSworks> Keep spies who are watching your connection from figuring out which transactions are yours.
673 2011-11-09 23:06:44 <cjdelisle> I'm not entirely up on it but I don't think packet sniffing is the way that's done
674 2011-11-09 23:06:58 <helo> that's one way it's done, surely
675 2011-11-09 23:07:02 <cjdelisle> I think it's done by setting up a fuckton of bunk nodes
676 2011-11-09 23:07:50 <CFSworks> Sure, but the nodes would have to make sure to have either 100% of your connections, or be peered with all of your other peers...
677 2011-11-09 23:07:59 <CFSworks> Actually the latter is hard because it randomizes transaction relay time, yes?
678 2011-11-09 23:08:12 <cjdelisle> not 100% of your connection
679 2011-11-09 23:08:19 <cjdelisle> just a few connections to everyone
680 2011-11-09 23:08:36 <cjdelisle> then when you see a tx, you can determine who said it first
681 2011-11-09 23:08:41 <cjdelisle> with pretty good accuracy
682 2011-11-09 23:08:57 <CFSworks> Although...
683 2011-11-09 23:09:09 <CFSworks> If Alice and Bob are peered, and Eve is peered to both, and Eve receives a transaction from Bob...
684 2011-11-09 23:09:25 <CFSworks> She doesn't know if it was originally from Alice, but Alice delayed transmission to Eve, or originally from Bob.
685 2011-11-09 23:09:39 <cjdelisle> yea, that's done already to a point
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687 2011-11-09 23:09:56 <CFSworks> (I recall seeing something in the code about randomizing a delay to transmit transactions to each peer...)
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694 2011-11-09 23:22:18 <cjdelisle> well I suppose then there is a reasonable argument to be made for enciphering the tcp connections
695 2011-11-09 23:23:35 <CFSworks> Yeah, I think it's a cool idea... The question is if someone wants to spend the time and effort getting Diffie-Hellman up and running in the protocol, and making it backwards-compatible.
696 2011-11-09 23:24:10 <cjdelisle> is MiTM a concern worth trying to work around?
697 2011-11-09 23:24:11 <CFSworks> It's a lot of effort to do little more than armor it against passive eavesdroppers.
698 2011-11-09 23:24:25 <CFSworks> And I don't think OE cares about MiTM.
699 2011-11-09 23:24:37 <cjdelisle> /nod
700 2011-11-09 23:24:44 <CFSworks> OE works perfectly against passive eavesdroppers...
701 2011-11-09 23:24:53 <CFSworks> But an active eavesdropper can simply disrupt the OE handshake and force it back to unencrypted.
702 2011-11-09 23:24:57 <CFSworks> Let alone a barrage of MiTM they can try.
703 2011-11-09 23:25:00 <cjdelisle> passive evesdropping is a more dangerous attack since you can store everything then decide later what you care about
704 2011-11-09 23:25:15 <CFSworks> Yeah, and the nice thing about active eavesdropping is you can detect it.
705 2011-11-09 23:25:23 <cjdelisle> /nod
706 2011-11-09 23:25:25 <CFSworks> If you happen to have packet logs from both ends of the connection or something like that...
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708 2011-11-09 23:26:51 <cjdelisle> take a look at curve25519poly1305xsalsa20
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710 2011-11-09 23:28:23 <CFSworks> cjdelisle: This is a cryptographic system? Geez.
711 2011-11-09 23:28:24 <cjdelisle> You would need to add a new kind of message for keyx, and you could decide whether to try the keyx by info in the version packet
712 2011-11-09 23:28:28 zeiris is now known as amtal
713 2011-11-09 23:28:31 <CFSworks> Professions with long words:
714 2011-11-09 23:28:37 <CFSworks> 1. Chemists.
715 2011-11-09 23:28:41 <CFSworks> 2. Cryptographers.
716 2011-11-09 23:28:58 <cjdelisle> it's written by (the legendary) djb
717 2011-11-09 23:29:02 <jgarzik> Antidisestablishmentarianists
718 2011-11-09 23:29:48 <CFSworks> jgarzik: Stop! I have hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia. :(
719 2011-11-09 23:30:56 <helo> mmmm salsa...
720 2011-11-09 23:31:50 <cjdelisle> It's interesting but I think rewriting the net.cpp as event based instead of "polling thread" is probably higher priority.
721 2011-11-09 23:33:16 <CFSworks> ...it isn't event-based?
722 2011-11-09 23:33:33 <CFSworks> What kind of polling is it, anyway?
723 2011-11-09 23:33:47 <CFSworks> Lots of 0-timeout socket polls?
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727 2011-11-09 23:36:18 <cjdelisle> it just checks each socket like a few times a second
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730 2011-11-09 23:39:11 <CFSworks> ...ouch. Yeah, that's probably higher-priority. :)
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736 2011-11-09 23:52:53 <sebicas> Hello... I just installed the bit coin server in a Small AWS Instance...
737 2011-11-09 23:53:12 <sebicas> It took 24 hours to download the full block chain...
738 2011-11-09 23:53:27 <sebicas> With 100% CPU the whole time...
739 2011-11-09 23:53:39 <sebicas> Now it finished..
740 2011-11-09 23:53:45 <sebicas> And CPU is nornal..
741 2011-11-09 23:54:09 <sebicas> I have a question..
742 2011-11-09 23:54:14 <sebicas> When I run "./bitcoind getaccount"
743 2011-11-09 23:54:24 <sebicas> I get error: {"code":-1,"message":"getaccount <bitcoinaddress>\nReturns the account associated with the given address."}
744 2011-11-09 23:54:39 <sebicas> Any idea how can I access the default acount?
745 2011-11-09 23:54:43 <luke-jr> ''
746 2011-11-09 23:54:51 <luke-jr> except
747 2011-11-09 23:54:57 <doublec> getaccount returns the account associated with an address
748 2011-11-09 23:55:00 <luke-jr> it doesn't take an account as a param
749 2011-11-09 23:55:03 <sebicas> With '' I get error: {"code":-5,"message":"Invalid bitcoin address"}
750 2011-11-09 23:55:28 <sebicas> Try also ""
751 2011-11-09 23:55:30 <doublec> what are you actually trying to do?
752 2011-11-09 23:55:40 <doublec> the default account is ""
753 2011-11-09 23:55:44 <doublec> so no need to 'get it'
754 2011-11-09 23:55:48 <luke-jr> sebicas: that's because it doesn't take an account as param
755 2011-11-09 23:56:23 <sebicas> getaccount 	<bitcoinaddress> 	Returns the account associated with the given address.
756 2011-11-09 23:56:41 <luke-jr> my point exactly
757 2011-11-09 23:57:47 <sebicas> Ahh ok..
758 2011-11-09 23:57:59 <sebicas> So getaccount kind of loads the account..
759 2011-11-09 23:58:20 <luke-jr> …
760 2011-11-09 23:58:29 <sebicas> ./bitcoind listaccounts
761 2011-11-09 23:58:33 <sebicas> Show me:
762 2011-11-09 23:58:33 <doublec> no, it tells you what account an address is associated with
763 2011-11-09 23:58:36 <sebicas> {
764 2011-11-09 23:58:36 <sebicas>     "" : 0.00000000,
765 2011-11-09 23:58:36 <sebicas>     "default" : 0.00000000
766 2011-11-09 23:58:37 <sebicas> }
767 2011-11-09 23:58:53 <luke-jr> sebicas: do you know English?
768 2011-11-09 23:59:11 <sebicas> Not my main languaje
769 2011-11-09 23:59:52 <sebicas> Ahh ok..
770 2011-11-09 23:59:55 <sebicas> Got you..