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154 2011-11-18 06:20:09 <dryden> the last block shows up as 40 minutes apart from its prev on blockexplorer
155 2011-11-18 06:20:27 <luke-jr> k
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157 2011-11-18 06:20:29 <dryden> http://blockexplorer.com/b/153778
158 2011-11-18 06:20:44 <dryden> does this happen?
159 2011-11-18 06:22:02 <dryden> strange stress test. huge block, lots of transactions must've added to the inherent difficulty.
160 2011-11-18 06:23:17 <phantomcircuit> happens often it having more transactions is because it took longer, not the cause of it taking longer
161 2011-11-18 06:23:41 <phantomcircuit> also
162 2011-11-18 06:23:47 <phantomcircuit> holy fuck is that 500k btc
163 2011-11-18 06:23:52 <dryden> yeah, it is
164 2011-11-18 06:23:57 <dryden> in one block
165 2011-11-18 06:24:00 <ferroh> phantomcircuit: there have been a lot of 500K BTC transactions in the last 24 hours.
166 2011-11-18 06:24:14 <ferroh> dryden: we've seen much longer blocks than 40 minutes with far fewer BTC -- they aren't related.
167 2011-11-18 06:25:00 <dryden> ferroh: im new to this. noticed block find times varies, but wasn't sure how much.
168 2011-11-18 06:25:36 <ferroh> dryden: np, im just letting you know that block find time doesn't depend on transaction size
169 2011-11-18 06:26:21 <dryden> yeah. a hash is a hash. same length, either way. Still, it's a bloated block
170 2011-11-18 06:27:00 <dryden> all done. chuggin along
171 2011-11-18 06:28:14 <copumpkin> it has to be mtgox
172 2011-11-18 06:28:25 <copumpkin> well, or lord satoshi :)
173 2011-11-18 06:28:35 <copumpkin> but it keeps getting slightly smaller, so it looks like someone shaving tiny bits off the big one
174 2011-11-18 06:30:39 <jgarzik> Bitcoins sent, last 24 hours: 4,323,735.49 BTC
175 2011-11-18 06:30:55 <copumpkin> yep
176 2011-11-18 06:30:56 <phantomcircuit> possibly just someone fucking with everybody
177 2011-11-18 06:31:09 <copumpkin> jgarzik: that's probably 8 * 500k plus some fluff
178 2011-11-18 06:31:25 <copumpkin> MagicalTux: is that you?
179 2011-11-18 06:31:28 <copumpkin> :P
180 2011-11-18 06:32:12 <copumpkin> cause if it isn't MagicalTux, then people might start getting worried
181 2011-11-18 06:32:59 <dryden> i had a script tracking mtgox depth. there wasn't nearly that much in the entire pipeline, asks+bids
182 2011-11-18 06:33:17 <copumpkin> you're tracking full depth?
183 2011-11-18 06:33:35 <copumpkin> people can still store stuff on there without making orders, too
184 2011-11-18 06:33:41 <dryden> copumpkin: just whatever their json gives me
185 2011-11-18 06:33:53 <dryden> just orders then
186 2011-11-18 06:33:54 <copumpkin> there's full json
187 2011-11-18 06:34:09 <copumpkin> run off https://mtgox.com/api/1/BTCUSD/public/fulldepth instead of the usual one
188 2011-11-18 06:34:25 <copumpkin> the usual one is cropped so web interfaces don't get sad
189 2011-11-18 06:34:56 <dryden> k. will update it tomorrow. I was too lazy to get SSL to play nice with curl
190 2011-11-18 06:36:29 <dryden> plus I was at work, so it was just a little thing
191 2011-11-18 06:36:54 <copumpkin> :)
192 2011-11-18 06:40:33 <dryden> 4 million! I thought the sell-off was starting to cool.
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194 2011-11-18 06:40:49 <copumpkin> dryden?
195 2011-11-18 06:41:04 <dryden> trade volume last 24 hrs
196 2011-11-18 06:41:07 <copumpkin> oh
197 2011-11-18 06:41:17 <copumpkin> well, it's just that massive 500k transaction that keeps happening
198 2011-11-18 06:41:26 <copumpkin> someone with a very large wallet is sending small amounts
199 2011-11-18 06:41:30 <copumpkin> which results in massive transactions
200 2011-11-18 06:41:55 <copumpkin> (I think)
201 2011-11-18 06:42:07 <dryden> wish I had a massive wallet. :)
202 2011-11-18 06:42:14 <copumpkin> I wouldn't complain
203 2011-11-18 06:42:29 <copumpkin> but having 500k coins isn't like having a million dollars :)
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205 2011-11-18 06:43:02 <copumpkin> it means you get to take pretty much all the bid money on mtgox, however much that ends up being
206 2011-11-18 06:43:22 <dryden> no, there's an entropy gate you've gotta to pour them through..
207 2011-11-18 06:43:39 <dryden> and limited demand
208 2011-11-18 06:43:44 <jgarzik> mtgox trade volume past 24 hours, 102,140.69 BTC
209 2011-11-18 06:43:47 <copumpkin> yeah, that's what I mean
210 2011-11-18 06:43:52 <jgarzik> the 4m number includes change
211 2011-11-18 06:44:12 <copumpkin> jgarzik: so you mean it includes that 500k number multiple times?
212 2011-11-18 06:45:27 <copumpkin> (I'm talking about these things we keep seeing: http://snapplr.com/hegx)
213 2011-11-18 06:45:32 <jgarzik> copumpkin: if I sent you 1 BTC from a 4,000-BTC coin, the transaction destroys the entire 4,000-BTC coin, and creates two new coins: 1 BTC, 3999 BTC
214 2011-11-18 06:45:41 <copumpkin> yeah, I know
215 2011-11-18 06:45:44 <copumpkin> that's what I was saying
216 2011-11-18 06:46:31 <jgarzik> bitcoinwatch.com just totals the coins sent... even though many of those are sent-to-yourself and not _real_ illustration of worldwide bitcoin transaction usage
217 2011-11-18 06:46:39 <copumpkin> yeah
218 2011-11-18 06:47:16 <dryden> jgarzik: how does the client decide which address to pay you back the remainder amount of a tx?
219 2011-11-18 06:47:49 <dryden> I've been trying to figure that out.
220 2011-11-18 06:48:12 <copumpkin> I assumed it just makes you a new one
221 2011-11-18 06:48:25 <dryden> it does... sometimes (i think)
222 2011-11-18 06:49:31 <jgarzik> dryden: it uses a fresh key from the keypool
223 2011-11-18 06:49:50 <jgarzik> dryden: i.e. hopefully a new, unused address
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227 2011-11-18 06:50:54 <dryden> is the keypool centrally stored somewhere, or can the pub/priv keypair be generated? (spose I should man up and read the rest of the src)
228 2011-11-18 06:52:10 <dryden> I didn't realize there was a "pool".
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230 2011-11-18 06:52:17 <jgarzik> dryden: keypool is initially filled with pre-generated keys, so that if you lose the latest backup, backup N-4 may still have all the keys you need to successfully use your money
231 2011-11-18 06:52:37 <jgarzik> dryden: without the keypool, losing your latest backup could mean losing all access to your money
232 2011-11-18 06:53:10 <jgarzik> stored in your wallet database
233 2011-11-18 06:53:27 <dryden> is that also stored in client's %appdata% ?
234 2011-11-18 06:53:40 <dryden> or ~/.bitcoin ?...
235 2011-11-18 06:54:00 <cocktopus> in windows, %appdata%\bitcoin
236 2011-11-18 06:54:24 <dryden> is the keypool separate from wallet.dat ?
237 2011-11-18 06:55:21 <dryden> sry so many questions
238 2011-11-18 06:56:25 <jgarzik> dryden: keypool is inside wallet.dat
239 2011-11-18 06:56:47 <dryden> jgarzik: ty
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241 2011-11-18 06:57:26 <jgarzik> wallet.dat stores all your keys, including ones you have not yet used
242 2011-11-18 06:59:03 <dryden> I didn't know that it did that but was beginning to suspect
243 2011-11-18 06:59:55 <luke-jr> (but not ALL keys you have not yet used)
244 2011-11-18 07:00:06 <dryden> I copied a wallet.dat between machines, and client-#2 had an address in it I hadn't yet used.. Anyway, thanks.
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246 2011-11-18 07:01:27 <luke-jr> dryden: just don't assume they share future keys; after about 100 they'll divergeâ¦
247 2011-11-18 07:02:39 <dryden> luke-jr: definitely. That makes sense.
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250 2011-11-18 07:09:05 <JFK911> so how long do you think it will take malware to be updated to steal the keys along with the wallet
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254 2011-11-18 07:23:33 <dryden> well goodnight bitcoiners. this has been most productive.
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256 2011-11-18 07:26:20 <ferroh> how do you ask gribble what someone's GPG trust information is
257 2011-11-18 07:27:06 <ferroh> nvm it's ;;gettrust
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406 2011-11-18 14:47:25 <gavinandresen> sipa: any luck restarting after encryption?
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438 2011-11-18 16:35:34 <MaxSan> Has anyone used Bitnet here?
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440 2011-11-18 16:36:09 <sipa> gavinandresen: sorry, i'm busy
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442 2011-11-18 16:38:45 <gavinandresen> sipa: no problem
443 2011-11-18 16:39:05 <gavinandresen> building rc6 now...
444 2011-11-18 16:40:18 <sipa> gavinandresen: i managed to get p2p to stop/start gracefully, made RPC persistent, but the old IRC thread (and possibly some others) are not joined again, and linger
445 2011-11-18 16:41:01 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: no tag, or mistag again?
446 2011-11-18 16:41:15 <phantomcircuit> sipa, just drop the irc thread...
447 2011-11-18 16:41:27 <gavinandresen> No tag yet, I want to sanity test the binaries first.
448 2011-11-18 16:42:10 <gavinandresen> If they're sane, then v0.4.1rc6 will be commit c4a3bf9e552f25a5ad0efb8cf62d344a7dad53ed
449 2011-11-18 16:42:49 <gavinandresen> ... and 0.5.0rc6 will be 1c15f88653b0f60fe5e021192cbb81c4f193159c
450 2011-11-18 16:42:51 <sipa> phantomcircuit: not in 0.5.0rc6
451 2011-11-18 16:45:06 <gavinandresen> 0.5.0rc6 binaries ready for sanity testing at: https://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/bitcoin-0.5.0/test/ ...
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464 2011-11-18 17:06:27 <gavinandresen> If anybody has a little time to help: please download and sanity test (make sure it runs, bascically) bitcoin 0.5rc6. I just tried the win32-setup.exe version, and it passed.
465 2011-11-18 17:07:36 * luke-jr wonders why the Bitcoin-Qt guy is ignoring the icon relicense request
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472 2011-11-18 17:18:36 <megatorus> gavinandresen: just grabbed the rc setup.exe installed on a winxp box
473 2011-11-18 17:18:39 <megatorus> works like a charm
474 2011-11-18 17:18:45 <megatorus> downloading blocks
475 2011-11-18 17:20:08 <megatorus> liking that the qt version shows total blocks available
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477 2011-11-18 17:25:15 <gavinandresen> 0.5.0rc6 osx binary is sane... I think it's safe to tag.
478 2011-11-18 17:27:52 <sipa> gavinandresen: 64-bit bitcoin-qt 0.5.0rc6 binary runs fine on ubuntu 11.10 here
479 2011-11-18 17:28:06 <gavinandresen> sipa: cool, thanks.
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482 2011-11-18 17:28:23 <gavinandresen> Pushed: * [new tag] v0.5.0rc6 -> v0.5.0rc6
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485 2011-11-18 17:28:55 <megatorus> gavinandresen: one suggestion - the 'uninstall' should offer to delete the data files
486 2011-11-18 17:29:04 <megatorus> (shouldn't be the default, but checkbox should be there)
487 2011-11-18 17:29:26 <megatorus> i just did a test install on a work box, and had to go hunt for the data files to delete them
488 2011-11-18 17:31:18 <gavinandresen> megatorus: good idea. Exactly the kind of pretty easy, low-priority good idea that never gets done....
489 2011-11-18 17:31:49 <megatorus> hehe well, if nobody will take that on, i can shove a couple of lines into the nsis file to make it happen and push out a pull request
490 2011-11-18 17:32:04 <megatorus> once i get home that is
491 2011-11-18 17:32:08 <gavinandresen> megatorus: that would be excellent, thanks!
492 2011-11-18 17:33:07 <megatorus> ok, i'll put it on my todolist :)
493 2011-11-18 17:33:09 <cocktopus> make sure that it doesn't delete wallet.dat even if the box is selected ;-)
494 2011-11-18 17:33:26 <megatorus> cocktopus: er... that'd be counter to the whole point of having the checkbox
495 2011-11-18 17:33:40 <megatorus> it /should/ delete all the user data files if selected
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497 2011-11-18 17:34:03 <sipa> in that case it should make it absolutely clear that it will remove all your coins, if you have no backup
498 2011-11-18 17:34:04 <cocktopus> i can just see some noob selecting it when all he was going was upgrading to a new version or something
499 2011-11-18 17:34:32 <megatorus> well, i think we can put big scary warnings in the description of the box
500 2011-11-18 17:34:33 <cocktopus> what sipa said yes
501 2011-11-18 17:34:39 <megatorus> right
502 2011-11-18 17:35:05 <megatorus> anyway, gtgfn, cheers
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505 2011-11-18 17:42:02 <gavinandresen> 0.4.1rc6 binaries ready for sanity testing, too: https://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/bitcoin-0.4.1/test/
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512 2011-11-18 17:53:47 <luke-jr> * [new tag] v0.4.1rc6 -> v0.4.1rc6
513 2011-11-18 17:54:38 <luke-jr> I don't think it should delete wallet.dat under any circumstances.
514 2011-11-18 17:54:43 <luke-jr> wallet.dat isn't data, it's money
515 2011-11-18 17:55:11 <luke-jr> iff something were to remove it, that something should also secure-delete it on disk
516 2011-11-18 17:55:53 <luke-jr> if an uninstaller had it as an option, IMO it should also email a copy to a developer (encrypted to the developer's key)
517 2011-11-18 17:56:00 <luke-jr> far too easy to "accidentally" lose coins otherwise
518 2011-11-18 17:56:22 <luke-jr> or perhaps send pieces to N trusted people, where all N need to agree to recover it
519 2011-11-18 17:56:47 <luke-jr> but, I've never seen a program that deletes user content
520 2011-11-18 17:56:56 <lianj> on uninstall the developer gets the money? oO
521 2011-11-18 17:56:58 <luke-jr> its own data, yes, but not stuff the user made with it
522 2011-11-18 17:57:15 <luke-jr> lianj: only if the user chooses to delete their wallet :P
523 2011-11-18 17:57:24 <lianj> ah. hehe
524 2011-11-18 17:57:40 <luke-jr> IMO, deleting wallet.dat is akin to deleting all PSD files when you uninstall Photoshop
525 2011-11-18 17:57:43 <gavinandresen> I think private keys in the wallet aught to be deterministic, based on an "emergency backup passphrase" ... maybe...
526 2011-11-18 17:57:57 <gavinandresen> ... plus some randomness, so it is POSSIBLE but expensive to brute-force.
527 2011-11-18 17:58:01 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: I agree for a long time now, but I am not competent to write it securely
528 2011-11-18 17:58:12 <cocktopus> "All data will be deleted. Prior to deletion, your wallet.dat will be copied to your desktop. Make a backup of it, as it contains all your bitcoins!"
529 2011-11-18 17:58:19 <cocktopus> how about that?
530 2011-11-18 17:58:28 <luke-jr> cocktopus: desktop is a bad place :P
531 2011-11-18 17:58:33 <luke-jr> just give them the path to the file
532 2011-11-18 17:58:40 <iddo> i tried 0.5.0rc6 and 0.4.1 in tinycore linux and i get DbException with 0.5.0rc6: http://pastebin.com/zGGDhjmj
533 2011-11-18 17:58:45 <cocktopus> makes it easy for windows users
534 2011-11-18 17:58:48 <iddo> 0.4.1 works well
535 2011-11-18 17:58:48 <cocktopus> they don'
536 2011-11-18 17:58:52 <luke-jr> iddo: O.o but not 0.4.1rc6?
537 2011-11-18 17:58:58 <iddo> right
538 2011-11-18 17:58:58 <cocktopus> t know where &appdata% is
539 2011-11-18 17:59:07 <luke-jr> cocktopus: that's why you tell them
540 2011-11-18 17:59:25 <luke-jr> "Your wallet is stored in C:\path\to\appdata\wallet.dat; disclaimergoeshere"
541 2011-11-18 17:59:33 <luke-jr> actually, disclaimer FIRST
542 2011-11-18 17:59:47 <iddo> both 0.5.0rc6 and 0.4.1 did the wallet encryption bug fix when first started, but 0.5 refuses to start afterwards
543 2011-11-18 18:00:11 <iddo> i think i'm missing some package, it's primitive 10meg linux distro
544 2011-11-18 18:00:38 <gavinandresen> I don't know nuthin about tinycore....
545 2011-11-18 18:00:47 <luke-jr> "Your wallet has NOT been deleted. If you delete it, you WILL lose all your Bitcoins forever. It is recommended to keep a backup, even if you have spent all that you currently possess in case more coins are sent in the future. Your wallet file is located at â¦"
546 2011-11-18 18:00:49 <gavinandresen> iddo: you started with an wallet encrypted by prior version?
547 2011-11-18 18:01:08 <iddo> gavinandresen: yes, encrypted by 0.4.0
548 2011-11-18 18:01:43 <gavinandresen> iddo: thanks, I'll try it in an ubuntu vm....
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550 2011-11-18 18:02:45 <iddo> i guess that ubuntu will work... i'll try to figure out what i'm missing here, given that 0.4.1 and 0.4.0 work well
551 2011-11-18 18:03:09 <iddo> actually 0.4.0 hangs on start without -nodnsseed but 0.4.1 is ok
552 2011-11-18 18:03:56 <gavinandresen> both 0.5.0 and 0.4.1 are built with berkeley db 4.8.30, so having it crash in Db::open is weird
553 2011-11-18 18:04:01 <iddo> couple of ctrl-c on 0.4.0 and it goes through to gui if not using -nodnsseed
554 2011-11-18 18:04:22 <iddo> yes weird
555 2011-11-18 18:06:03 <luke-jr> iddo: both 0.5.0 and 0.4.1 removed the troublesome DNS server
556 2011-11-18 18:06:12 <luke-jr> the actual bug in the code isn't fixed yet
557 2011-11-18 18:06:34 <iddo> ok
558 2011-11-18 18:07:36 <iddo> i dont think that tinycore problems should delay the release, probably missing dependecy that should have been there
559 2011-11-18 18:08:04 <iddo> some people like to use tinycore because entire filesystem boots to ram in pristine state, no files left on disk from previous boot, for paranoid security when type passphrase...
560 2011-11-18 18:08:15 <iddo> s/type/typing
561 2011-11-18 18:10:00 <iddo> 0.5.0rc6 bitcoind has same DbException here
562 2011-11-18 18:10:19 <iddo> btw it's 32bit
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566 2011-11-18 18:13:46 <iddo> gavinandresen: actually it was my fault it seems... it only doesn't work when i copied my blk*.dat files to ~/.bitcoin
567 2011-11-18 18:14:09 <iddo> with empty ~/.bitcoin the bitcoin-qt version works ok
568 2011-11-18 18:14:11 <gavinandresen> iddo: ah, good. database version mismatch....
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570 2011-11-18 18:14:39 <iddo> i wonder why it worked with 0.4.1
571 2011-11-18 18:15:05 <gavinandresen> mismatch between the .dat files and the database/log.0000001 file, I would guess
572 2011-11-18 18:15:08 <luke-jr> iddo: single occurance, or repeatable?
573 2011-11-18 18:15:20 <iddo> other people might also want to use their blk*.dat files
574 2011-11-18 18:15:48 <iddo> luke-jr: repeatable when using blk*.dat with bitcoin-qt
575 2011-11-18 18:16:02 <iddo> or bitcoind of 0.5.0rc6
576 2011-11-18 18:16:54 <iddo> i only copied blk*.dat and wallet.dat to empty ~/.bitcoin
577 2011-11-18 18:17:23 <gavinandresen> The .dat files should be compatible between bdb versions 4.* ... were they written with a bdb 5.something?
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579 2011-11-18 18:17:51 <gavinandresen> (everything runs OK on ubuntu32 natty, by the way)
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582 2011-11-18 18:18:18 <iddo> those .dat files were from my win7 bitcoin, it was 0.3.24 upgraded to 0.4.0
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584 2011-11-18 18:19:42 <gavinandresen> iddo: maybe the copy is bad-- can your run shasum on the win7 box to see?
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586 2011-11-18 18:20:07 <iddo> so when starting rc6 without any wallet, it creates a new "born encrypted" wallet.dat without asking user to restart the client ?
587 2011-11-18 18:20:21 <iddo> ok lemme see checksums
588 2011-11-18 18:21:09 <gavinandresen> iddo: no, it creates an unencrypted wallet.
589 2011-11-18 18:21:19 <iddo> ah
590 2011-11-18 18:22:06 <iddo> would be nice to overcome the need to restart the client, at least for new wallet, but not urgent for this release
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592 2011-11-18 18:25:34 <gmaxwell> iddo: conflicts with the solution to the old problem of "hey I backed up after I first started bitcoin.. now I restored.. where are my coins?"
593 2011-11-18 18:26:37 <iddo> my checksums of blk*.dat are ok
594 2011-11-18 18:27:19 <gavinandresen> iddo: no idea why a win7 .dat wouldn't work on linux, sorry. I thought bdb files were compatible across operating systems
595 2011-11-18 18:27:44 <iddo> well it does work in linux here with 0.4.1 hmm
596 2011-11-18 18:28:41 <gavinandresen> extremely puzzling. 0.4.1 and 0.5.0 binaries compile against exactly the same bdb source code.
597 2011-11-18 18:28:52 <gavinandresen> (on the same machine even)
598 2011-11-18 18:29:00 <iddo> gmaxwell: for brand new bitcoin installation, wouldn't it be good to create "born encrypted" wallet instead of unencrypted?
599 2011-11-18 18:29:40 <gmaxwell> iddo: no, you can't create the wallet initially as encrypted because you don't know if the user wants encryption yet. And if your force encryption onto them you'll end up with a _lot_ of lost keys.
600 2011-11-18 18:30:10 <gmaxwell> And it needs to generate the keypool as soon as it generates the wallet.dat or you get that problem I described above.
601 2011-11-18 18:30:32 <gavinandresen> "I don't remember the passphrase I chose when my wallet had zero bitcoins in it and I didn't really care. I just got 100 bitcoins and now I DO care... but I can't spend them... HELP!" <--- like that
602 2011-11-18 18:33:31 <iddo> gavinandresen: i was wrong, it wasn't blk*.dat files, it's wallet.dat that creates this DbException issue, with empty ~/.bitcoin and copying only wallet.dat into it, bitcoin-qt converts the wallet but refuses to re-restart afterwards
603 2011-11-18 18:34:11 <iddo> lemme see if i also have older 0.3.24 unencrypted wallet to test...
604 2011-11-18 18:34:25 <luke-jr> iddo: post your blk*.dat file that causes it somewhere plz
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608 2011-11-18 18:36:55 <iddo> it's not blk*.dat, it's wallet.dat (with empty ~/.bitcoin no problems, with only ~/.bitcoin/wallet.dat i get this problem)
609 2011-11-18 18:37:32 <gmaxwell> so back it up.. start with a working client.. send all the monies away.. then post it.
610 2011-11-18 18:37:50 <gmaxwell> (after a couple confirms, of course)
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612 2011-11-18 18:42:39 <iddo> ok i have older unencrypted backup, bitcoin-qt 0.5.0rc6 works well with the unencrypted wallet, and when encrypting with 0.5.0rc6 it works well afterwards
613 2011-11-18 18:43:45 <iddo> so 0.5.0rc6 didn't like my encrypted 0.4.0 wallet.dat, though 0.4.1 was ok with it
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618 2011-11-18 18:58:15 <iddo> and it's a repeatable issue, happens every time i start bitcoin-qt with only encrypted 0.4.0 wallet.dat in ~/.bitcoin , so maybe others will encounter it too
619 2011-11-18 18:58:46 <iddo> ok i agree that forcing encrypted wallet on start is a bad idea
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621 2011-11-18 18:59:47 <luke-jr> iddo: can you share the wallet.dat?
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623 2011-11-18 19:00:27 <iddo> it has 60 btc in it
624 2011-11-18 19:00:43 <iddo> i could reboot to win7 and create another encrypted wallet.dat and try it
625 2011-11-18 19:01:12 <iddo> will take me 5mins, gonna try now
626 2011-11-18 19:09:56 <iddo> ok back
627 2011-11-18 19:10:24 <iddo> same DbException happens with new wallet.dat created on win7 bitcoin 0.4.0
628 2011-11-18 19:10:32 <iddo> i can share that wallet.dat
629 2011-11-18 19:11:02 <luke-jr> please
630 2011-11-18 19:11:28 <luke-jr> also, how did you exit wxbitcoin?
631 2011-11-18 19:12:38 <iddo> hmm exit from file menu i tihnk?
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633 2011-11-18 19:13:17 <luke-jr> iddo: did you wait for it to close completely, or perhaps reboot before it finished?
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635 2011-11-18 19:16:00 <iddo> oh hmm, i think i wait before reboot, e.g. i copied the wallet to another partition after bitcoin client shutdown and before reboot
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638 2011-11-18 19:18:55 <luke-jr> you know bitcoin clients take like 5 mins to shutdown cleanly, right? :p
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640 2011-11-18 19:19:33 <iddo> ermmm no i didn't...
641 2011-11-18 19:19:50 <iddo> here's the wallet: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/102101/3aa8686f619c85677a189f380cb85838.dat
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644 2011-11-18 19:20:15 <iddo> filename is md5 of it
645 2011-11-18 19:21:16 <iddo> you want me to reboot to win7 and wait 5mins after client shutdown? not sure if it's a joke...
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650 2011-11-18 19:24:50 <iddo> here's the wallet after what 0.5.0rc6 does to it here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/102101/ce829bfc44521dd68f7aa7b2e4676e8b.dat
651 2011-11-18 19:25:39 <iddo> nice that new wallet encryption is smaller file, i guess that's what sipa mentioned regarding 32 bytes instead of 279 bytes per privkey
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664 2011-11-18 19:55:15 <iddo> two more tests i did: creating new encrypted wallet.dat with 0.4.0 on linux here (instead of win7) and giving it to 0.5.0rc6 still gives same DbException, and giving the 0.4.0 encrypted wallet first to 0.4.1 and then using the file that 0.4.1 created with 0.5.0rc6 works good
665 2011-11-18 19:56:55 <iddo> s/created/converted
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668 2011-11-18 20:03:57 <iddo> last post in forum thread mentions different exception error than what i get, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52008.msg623167#msg623167
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706 2011-11-18 20:56:28 <MaxSan> Anyoen about thats used bitnet?
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