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 18 2011-12-03 00:35:08 <makomk> Hah. Solidcoin has a hard limit on the size of reorgs now. I seem to recall this is probably a bad idea and that's why Bitcoin doesn't do it?
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 20 2011-12-03 00:42:23 <gmaxwell> makomk: it's less of a bad idea with a centeral master controller exists.
 21 2011-12-03 00:42:45 <gmaxwell> The problem with reorg limiting is that there is always a race right at the edge of the limit where the network can be perpetually split.
 22 2011-12-03 00:43:44 <makomk> Yeah, I guess the best someone can do is get new nodes stuck on a chain prior to the block where RealSolid fixed the gaping security hole.
 23 2011-12-03 00:43:54 <gmaxwell> e.g. you isolate a client (via attack or a natural outage) stuff it with some happyfun blocks and now it will never rejoin the real network... you work it down to a nice low difficulty and you have a pet node.
 24 2011-12-03 00:44:04 <gmaxwell> oh is it no longer possible to just copy the trust transactions? :)
 25 2011-12-03 00:44:35 <makomk> Yeah, as of block 91500. He did some weird hack to stick a signature of the block hash in the scriptSig of the generate.
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 27 2011-12-03 00:45:52 <gmaxwell> aww
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 29 2011-12-03 00:46:23 <makomk> How'd you find out about that, out of interest?
 30 2011-12-03 00:46:55 <gmaxwell> ... People talk, you know.
 31 2011-12-03 00:47:04 <gmaxwell> I was kinda hoping to see someone rewrite it from the start.
 32 2011-12-03 00:47:48 <makomk> Heh. I haven't even heard any evidence of double spending yet. Besides, he has block checkpoints.
 33 2011-12-03 00:48:38 <gmaxwell> It would have been somewhat hard to do an interesting double spend attack, unfortunately, because fairly few people seem to have large amounts of SC
 34 2011-12-03 00:48:48 <gmaxwell> and none were willing to loan any when I went asking.
 35 2011-12-03 00:49:00 <makomk> Ah, that explains it.
 36 2011-12-03 00:49:44 <gmaxwell> And splitting all those trust blocks would get noticed by RS when his coin went away, I assume, so you couldn't use that fact to mine a fork cheaply.
 37 2011-12-03 00:50:01 <makomk> I was wondering why there hadn't been one yet; thought for a while I must've been imagining the hole.
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 40 2011-12-03 00:56:00 <makomk> Also, it looks like an attacker managed to make off with the CPF payments for at least a week before someone else noticed it by accident, so I think you're over-estimating how observant RS is.
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 68 2011-12-03 01:37:08 <gribble> Best bid: 3.083, Best ask: 3.094, Bid-ask spread: 0.011, Last trade: 3.0959, 24 hour volume: 57733, 24 hour low: 3.05, 24 hour high: 3.138
 69 2011-12-03 01:37:50 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr luke-jr/force_send * r93da8da / src/main.cpp : Accept any transaction (fee-free or even non-standard) from myself - http://git.io/Tw_IZw https://github.com/luke-jr/bitcoin/commit/93da8da774c610e23b102bfe0de63f3281b3baea
 70 2011-12-03 01:37:50 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr luke-jr/force_send * r7794927 / (src/bitcoinrpc.cpp src/wallet.cpp src/wallet.h): Refactor maxtxfee and -nosafefees slightly to work together - http://git.io/G_P3ow https://github.com/luke-jr/bitcoin/commit/77949279fed88c212dd8b37b9b73bbc8817adb17
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 72 2011-12-03 02:00:37 <luke-jr> FWIW, found a bug in the current OP_EVAL
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 77 2011-12-03 02:27:13 <[Tycho]> Why GetOpName was moved from script.h to script.cpp ?
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 80 2011-12-03 02:31:59 <forrestv> [Tycho], i think there's a general plan to move things that don't need to be inlined from the header to the source files
 81 2011-12-03 02:32:23 <forrestv> remember hearing that somewhere
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 86 2011-12-03 02:41:57 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: headers really shouldn't have code in them
 87 2011-12-03 02:47:28 <[Tycho]> Hmm, I think I applied it...
 88 2011-12-03 02:47:35 <[Tycho]> Wonder if it will work.
 89 2011-12-03 02:48:38 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: I'd wait until gavin looks into my bug report more
 90 2011-12-03 02:48:56 <luke-jr> ;;later tell gavin* so does that bug I reported affect the 0.3.23 backport?
 91 2011-12-03 02:48:56 <gribble> The operation succeeded.
 92 2011-12-03 02:48:58 <[Tycho]> What bug report ?
 93 2011-12-03 02:49:11 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: I found a regression introduced by the mainline OP_EVAL implementation.
 94 2011-12-03 02:49:22 <[Tycho]> What does it means ?
 95 2011-12-03 02:50:17 <luke-jr> it means listtransactions doesn't work.
 96 2011-12-03 02:50:25 <luke-jr> it might mean you lose bitcoins too, not sure
 97 2011-12-03 02:51:03 <[Tycho]> Hmm, so there is some "deadline"... int64 nEvalSwitchTime = GetArg("opevaltime", 1328054400); // Feb 1, 2012
 98 2011-12-03 02:51:17 <luke-jr> that's part of the temporary code
 99 2011-12-03 02:51:28 <luke-jr> so it can't fork the blockchain before then
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102 2011-12-03 02:54:54 <[Tycho]> So what are current proposal about when to allow including OP_EVAL in mined blocks ?
103 2011-12-03 02:55:25 <[Tycho]> What stops listtransactions from working ?
104 2011-12-03 02:55:46 <gmaxwell> [Tycho]: gavin's plan was to measure in mid january, and if the OP_EVAL signal is there in >50% of recent blocks, then things will be left alone and on feb 1, updated miners will start mining them.
105 2011-12-03 02:56:07 <gmaxwell> And if it wasn't 50% he'd go around getting people to push back the opevaltime to some point in the future.
106 2011-12-03 02:56:17 <gmaxwell> Or at least thats the plan as I understood it.
107 2011-12-03 02:56:50 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: I don't know what's causing the listtransaction bug. it doesn't stop working, it shows debits where there should be a credit.
108 2011-12-03 02:57:06 <[Tycho]> Bad bug.
109 2011-12-03 02:57:21 <gmaxwell> It seems likly that with you, luke, and slush on board we might have >50% long before then.
110 2011-12-03 02:57:33 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: weird, I don't see anything in it that should have that effect.
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112 2011-12-03 02:57:58 <[Tycho]> And then BTCguild will be forked ?
113 2011-12-03 02:58:19 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: I posted the commit id to the pull req
114 2011-12-03 02:58:43 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: only if they mine non-standard transactions
115 2011-12-03 02:58:44 <gmaxwell> [Tycho]: No, there isn't a fork risk after that.
116 2011-12-03 02:58:49 <gmaxwell> except as luke says.
117 2011-12-03 02:59:52 <gmaxwell> [Tycho]: The OP_EVAL scripts still validate as OK for old nodes.  So the only reason btcguild would get split is if they mined an invalid OP_EVAL script. Which would require them taking nonstandard txn (they don't currently) without the OP_EVAL patches.
118 2011-12-03 03:00:13 <[Tycho]> Ok.
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120 2011-12-03 03:00:58 <gmaxwell> The reason for the coordinated activiation is that if this does happen, e.g. if someone intentionally mines such a txn in order to create trouble... we want the people running the OP_EVAL patch to win the split and not lose any blocks.
121 2011-12-03 03:01:48 <gmaxwell> But that shouldn't happen unless someone is intentionally trying to create trouble, and if the OP_EVALER's have a majority any trouble they make won't last long.
122 2011-12-03 03:02:10 <[Tycho]> If someone intentionally mines such TXn, then what will happen with BTCguild ?
123 2011-12-03 03:02:30 <[Tycho]> Will he continue to build on this block ?
124 2011-12-03 03:02:32 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: BTCGuild might make a stale on top of it.
125 2011-12-03 03:02:41 <gmaxwell> They they might extend that block because they don't know any better. then see some increased orphan rate as a result.
126 2011-12-03 03:02:45 <luke-jr> that won't last long as soon as our 50% gets longer
127 2011-12-03 03:03:27 <gmaxwell> but the person who made such a block will have wasted 50btc in effort building a block that will lose. Thats a lot to spend to boost btcs orphan rate by a tiny bit.
128 2011-12-03 03:03:52 <[Tycho]> BTCguild will also waste 50 BTC then.
129 2011-12-03 03:04:36 <gmaxwell> in the small fraction of their blocks where the badguy mined the prior block from their perspective and someone else didn't get two ahead first.
130 2011-12-03 03:05:37 <gmaxwell> If you want to spend 50btc wasting btcguild's money— just do a block withholding attack. They are PPS.. it would be much more cost effective.
131 2011-12-03 03:05:47 <[Tycho]> So even if I will accept strange TXes, only correct OP_EVAL will be allowed in the pool and no bad things happen ?
132 2011-12-03 03:06:13 <[Tycho]> Hmm. looks like any will be allowed.
133 2011-12-03 03:06:31 <gmaxwell> There are two conditions.
134 2011-12-03 03:06:42 <gmaxwell> what is allowed in the blockchain, and what you'll mine.
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137 2011-12-03 03:07:55 <gmaxwell> any will be allowed in the chain until that date but only correct OP_EVAL will be relayed or mined. After that date only correct op_eval will be allowed in the chain.
138 2011-12-03 03:08:06 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: they'd need to find their dud block before us
139 2011-12-03 03:08:40 <[Tycho]> luke-jr: who ?
140 2011-12-03 03:08:50 <luke-jr> the attacker
141 2011-12-03 03:08:59 <luke-jr> to waste BTCGuild's block
142 2011-12-03 03:09:42 <[Tycho]> Why before us ?
143 2011-12-03 03:10:13 <[Tycho]> Checked the new IsStandard code. Looks safe...
144 2011-12-03 03:10:44 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: because if we find the block first, BTCGuild will build on ours
145 2011-12-03 03:11:25 <[Tycho]> Oh, that.
146 2011-12-03 03:11:57 <gmaxwell> should be the other way around.  The attacker finds a block (at random) that makes it to BTC guild before the OP_Evalers find one. Then BTC's time is being wasted until the good-network (opevalers) get ahead by one block.
147 2011-12-03 03:11:58 <[Tycho]> So you mean that BTCguild should find the block before us, not the attacker.
148 2011-12-03 03:12:31 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: no, I mean the attacker :P
149 2011-12-03 03:12:48 <gmaxwell> of course this is assuming btcguild doesn't apply the patch, I've not heard any indication that they wouldn't.
150 2011-12-03 03:12:49 <[Tycho]> After us then.
151 2011-12-03 03:13:09 <gmaxwell> And of course, the exposure descreases exponentially the greater the supermajority is.
152 2011-12-03 03:13:10 <[Tycho]> Where is new function GetTxnTypeName used ? Don't see any usage.
153 2011-12-03 03:15:05 <[Tycho]> Hm, pubkey tx is named "Standard tx" there :)
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200 2011-12-03 06:42:05 <the_batman> gmaxwell: was it you that was telling about transfering money between australia and USA
201 2011-12-03 06:42:07 <the_batman> ?
202 2011-12-03 06:42:12 <the_batman> the other day
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243 2011-12-03 08:50:53 <pickett> http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/blockchain/
244 2011-12-03 08:51:00 <pickett> safe to download the blockchain from there?
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267 2011-12-03 10:11:28 <the_batman> alright so the main advantages bitcoin has over other transaction methods: (1) inexpensive (2) anonymous
268 2011-12-03 10:11:33 <the_batman> am I missing any there?
269 2011-12-03 10:12:00 <vrs> not anonymous per se
270 2011-12-03 10:12:02 <Diablo-D3> yup
271 2011-12-03 10:12:07 <Diablo-D3> you just missed the entire point of bitcoin
272 2011-12-03 10:12:11 <the_batman> by my quick assessment, (1) is invalid because it's gotten cheap
273 2011-12-03 10:12:13 <the_batman> please explain
274 2011-12-03 10:12:21 <the_batman> I dont know any legit uses for (2)
275 2011-12-03 10:12:35 <the_batman> what am I missing as the main advantages/points of bitcoin?
276 2011-12-03 10:12:45 <vrs> no central mint
277 2011-12-03 10:13:00 <the_batman> how is that useful, how does it provide economic value?
278 2011-12-03 10:13:14 <the_batman> it's cool and I get that much
279 2011-12-03 10:13:21 <Diablo-D3> its not centralized, its extremely difficult to forge transactions (to the point its realistically impossible), and it cannot be inflated on demand by the government
280 2011-12-03 10:13:23 <the_batman> or maybe I dont :)
281 2011-12-03 10:13:39 <Diablo-D3> as a currency, it is the most secure thing available
282 2011-12-03 10:13:43 <vrs> and legit uses for (2) include circumventing exchange rates set by countries
283 2011-12-03 10:13:51 <the_batman> secure in what sense of the word Diablo-D3?
284 2011-12-03 10:13:52 <vrs> more or less legit perhaps
285 2011-12-03 10:14:05 <Diablo-D3> theres more than one sense?
286 2011-12-03 10:14:13 <the_batman> vrs: how does it circumvent country exchange rates? do countries impose rates or something?
287 2011-12-03 10:14:17 <vrs> different countries have different laws
288 2011-12-03 10:14:18 <vrs> yep
289 2011-12-03 10:14:31 <vrs> afaik china does that
290 2011-12-03 10:14:33 <the_batman> vrs: could you give an example? I dont understand
291 2011-12-03 10:14:37 <Diablo-D3> the exchange rate is controlled by the largest banks in the worlllllld
292 2011-12-03 10:14:47 <Diablo-D3> and my keyboard is dropping interrupts, great
293 2011-12-03 10:14:49 <vrs> (but I'm not an expert, don't nail me here)
294 2011-12-03 10:14:49 <the_batman> Diablo-D3: secure financially or secure safety, ie from theives
295 2011-12-03 10:14:56 <Diablo-D3> the_batman: both.
296 2011-12-03 10:15:03 <the_batman> vrs: just trying to understand, no need to be precise :)
297 2011-12-03 10:15:10 <the_batman> how does it get around china's imposed rate?
298 2011-12-03 10:15:11 <Diablo-D3> without a central authority, you can't have governments wildly printing money that doesn't exist
299 2011-12-03 10:15:43 <vrs> which can be a good or a bad thing, depending which economic school you follow
300 2011-12-03 10:15:48 <vrs> depending on*
301 2011-12-03 10:15:49 <Diablo-D3> and with the heavy encryption used, the entire currency is protected from false transactions or mitm theft
302 2011-12-03 10:16:05 <Diablo-D3> vrs: thats not particularly the issue
303 2011-12-03 10:16:14 <Diablo-D3> bitcoin will never become a currency used by an individual country
304 2011-12-03 10:16:18 <the_batman> so youre saying that in theory, if I held my money in btc as opposed to USD, I'd be shielded from inflation?
305 2011-12-03 10:16:23 <the_batman> or whatever other bs
306 2011-12-03 10:16:24 <Diablo-D3> btc needs to be stable during extremely long term periods
307 2011-12-03 10:16:27 <the_batman> is going on with my fiat
308 2011-12-03 10:16:35 <the_batman> in theory :)
309 2011-12-03 10:16:37 <vrs> Diablo-D3: how do you define "country"? :)
310 2011-12-03 10:16:43 <Diablo-D3> vrs: in the usual way.
311 2011-12-03 10:17:17 <Diablo-D3> the_batman: fiat currencies are fiat currencies because they do not directly represent a tangible asset class.
312 2011-12-03 10:17:37 <vrs> the_batman: there is inflation in bitcoin, but it's controlled by network consensus
313 2011-12-03 10:17:40 <Diablo-D3> it doesnt mean people's opinion of btc won't wildly swing
314 2011-12-03 10:17:45 <Diablo-D3> vrs: not quite
315 2011-12-03 10:18:01 <Diablo-D3> there is zero inflation, the number of btc that will exist stays constant
316 2011-12-03 10:18:11 <vrs> that will exist eventually, yes
317 2011-12-03 10:18:27 <Diablo-D3> as in, current btc prices reflect that number already
318 2011-12-03 10:18:55 <the_batman> hm
319 2011-12-03 10:18:59 <the_batman> I think  ihave the answer :)
320 2011-12-03 10:19:07 <vrs> do they Diablo-D3?
321 2011-12-03 10:19:19 <Diablo-D3> vrs: generally yes.
322 2011-12-03 10:19:20 <the_batman> you know what my favorite feature-benefit of bitcoin is?
323 2011-12-03 10:19:26 <the_batman> it's really goddamned easy to do transactions
324 2011-12-03 10:19:28 <the_batman> lol!
325 2011-12-03 10:19:32 <Diablo-D3> vrs: the production of new btc, however, is so slow that it doesnt matter
326 2011-12-03 10:19:59 <Diablo-D3> and once the production drops to 25 btc per block, it will take even longer
327 2011-12-03 10:20:03 <Diablo-D3> the_batman: yes.
328 2011-12-03 10:20:12 <Diablo-D3> its faster than the global ACH system
329 2011-12-03 10:20:13 <vrs> still yet fast compared to, say, the euro
330 2011-12-03 10:20:26 <Diablo-D3> 3 days to do a transaction, but can be reversed for up to 6 months
331 2011-12-03 10:20:35 <the_batman> if playing video games have taught me anything
332 2011-12-03 10:20:48 <the_batman> it's that attack damage is optimized when you have high attack speed
333 2011-12-03 10:20:59 <the_batman> the feature of ease of use is optimal when you have a shitload of transacitons
334 2011-12-03 10:21:05 <Diablo-D3> heh
335 2011-12-03 10:21:14 <Diablo-D3> and people wonder why I always take the fastest class in any game
336 2011-12-03 10:21:21 <the_batman> my point is that
337 2011-12-03 10:21:24 <the_batman> this is the answer
338 2011-12-03 10:21:33 <the_batman> businesses that make many transactions
339 2011-12-03 10:21:36 <the_batman> dealing in fiat is a pita
340 2011-12-03 10:21:43 <the_batman> there's the mainstream bitcoin product
341 2011-12-03 10:21:45 <the_batman> dont tell anyone ;)
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343 2011-12-03 10:22:00 <the_batman> many internal transactions* within some kind of enclosed environment
344 2011-12-03 10:22:02 <Diablo-D3> fiat wouldnt be an issue if it was inflated using known mathematical formulas
345 2011-12-03 10:22:06 <the_batman> ie pokemon dollars
346 2011-12-03 10:22:16 <Diablo-D3> optimium fiat growth is roughly equal to population growth
347 2011-12-03 10:22:44 <the_batman> this feature of bitcoin makes sense but isnt practical right now
348 2011-12-03 10:22:50 <the_batman> because the value is so unstable and bc people dont trust it
349 2011-12-03 10:23:00 <Diablo-D3> its unstable because of idiot miners
350 2011-12-03 10:23:04 <the_batman> lol
351 2011-12-03 10:23:12 <Diablo-D3> but this was a known problem, and it eventually caught up
352 2011-12-03 10:23:20 <Diablo-D3> this is what difficulty is for
353 2011-12-03 10:23:21 <the_batman> how do idiot miners make it unstable?
354 2011-12-03 10:23:32 <the_batman> i thought that's what difficulty was for :)
355 2011-12-03 10:23:36 <Diablo-D3> they were generating coins that no one wanted to buy
356 2011-12-03 10:23:45 <Diablo-D3> thus driving the market prices down
357 2011-12-03 10:23:58 <Diablo-D3> after they, themselves, peaked it at $30 during the gold rush
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359 2011-12-03 10:26:07 <the_batman> mm
360 2011-12-03 10:26:17 <the_batman> so
361 2011-12-03 10:26:28 <the_batman> what internet worlds use currency
362 2011-12-03 10:26:31 <the_batman> their own currency
363 2011-12-03 10:26:54 <the_batman> or ...
364 2011-12-03 10:27:21 <the_batman> where users buy and sell amongst each other ?
365 2011-12-03 10:27:31 <the_batman> omg
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367 2011-12-03 10:27:39 <the_batman> medium of exchange
368 2011-12-03 10:27:55 <the_batman> ha you read about bartering and you think "caveman shit" but it's real
369 2011-12-03 10:27:58 <the_batman> i love the modern world
370 2011-12-03 10:28:22 <Diablo-D3> bartering? it never died
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372 2011-12-03 10:28:32 <Diablo-D3> people forget this is what, for example, b2b is.
373 2011-12-03 10:29:02 <Diablo-D3> doesnt absolve you of taxes, though
374 2011-12-03 10:29:19 <the_batman> hm
375 2011-12-03 10:30:30 <the_batman> where on the internet are there internal economies and (what characterists separate fiat-using economies from those that don't use fiat, like ebay vs second life)
376 2011-12-03 10:30:45 <the_batman> why doesnt second life just use USD?
377 2011-12-03 10:30:59 <Diablo-D3> because then they'd have to pay heavy taxes
378 2011-12-03 10:31:10 <the_batman> ??
379 2011-12-03 10:31:12 <Diablo-D3> and also have to comply with a lot of difficult regulations
380 2011-12-03 10:31:17 <the_batman> really?
381 2011-12-03 10:31:21 <Diablo-D3> yessssssss.
382 2011-12-03 10:31:29 <Diablo-D3> I hate my keyboard.
383 2011-12-03 10:31:33 <the_batman> really?
384 2011-12-03 10:31:35 * the_batman thinks
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386 2011-12-03 10:31:46 <the_batman> what would second life have to do, for example?
387 2011-12-03 10:31:48 <the_batman> if it was using USD
388 2011-12-03 10:31:54 <the_batman> trying to grok
389 2011-12-03 10:31:59 <Diablo-D3> ask them
390 2011-12-03 10:32:05 <the_batman> lol they arent here
391 2011-12-03 10:32:06 <the_batman> ;D
392 2011-12-03 10:32:39 <the_batman> your point is most likely overwhemlingly true though, I imagine
393 2011-12-03 10:32:39 <Diablo-D3> as long as its one way to second life's currency, the IRS doesnt care as long as they pay taxes normally.
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396 2011-12-03 10:33:56 <Diablo-D3> its when its convertable back to IRS they start requiring things like everybody's real name, ssn, state id, everyone has to be above 18, frequent investigations by the FBI due to illegal drug trafficing, etc
397 2011-12-03 10:34:08 <Diablo-D3> *back to USD, the
398 2011-12-03 10:34:58 <the_batman> mm
399 2011-12-03 10:35:00 <Diablo-D3> so no, its not a viable solution
400 2011-12-03 10:35:03 <Diablo-D3> afk food
401 2011-12-03 10:35:14 <the_batman> <3 thanks for humoring me
402 2011-12-03 10:35:14 <the_batman> Diablo-D3
403 2011-12-03 10:38:09 <Eliel> ? linden dollars are convertible back to USDs just fine.
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435 2011-12-03 12:04:09 <Diablo-D3> [05:37:32] <Eliel> ? linden dollars are convertible back to USDs just fine.
436 2011-12-03 12:04:13 <Diablo-D3> using private exchanges, sure
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444 2011-12-03 12:13:08 <makomk> Diablo-D3: using the official exchange run by Linden Labs themselves.
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455 2011-12-03 12:58:58 <eueueue> Hi, My debian was suspended during bitcoin client was sincronizing. When backed from suspended, the synconization stopped. Is tis a bug?
456 2011-12-03 12:59:17 <eueueue> I think the synchronization should start again
457 2011-12-03 12:59:25 <eueueue> what do you think?
458 2011-12-03 13:00:14 <eueueue> ops
459 2011-12-03 13:00:16 <eueueue> sorry
460 2011-12-03 13:00:29 <eueueue> the synchronization started again
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463 2011-12-03 13:20:49 <kinlo> eueueue: it needs active internet connections to work, if you suspend, they get disconnected, so after unsuspend these need to disconnect and new connections must be made before it can continue
464 2011-12-03 13:21:11 <kinlo> so it's normal for it to be "stuck" for a while during timeouts and reconnecting period
465 2011-12-03 13:21:16 <eueueue> kinlo: right. worked here
466 2011-12-03 13:23:25 <eueueue> thanks
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473 2011-12-03 13:42:49 <Diablo-D3> makomk: huh, since when?
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514 2011-12-03 16:44:26 <Isosceles> hi, just installed Bitcoin 0.5, crashes on slash screen with Unhanded Exception
515 2011-12-03 16:44:32 <Isosceles> Where do I submit a bug report?
516 2011-12-03 16:47:53 <Diablo-D3> on the bug tracker
517 2011-12-03 16:48:30 <Isosceles> link?
518 2011-12-03 16:48:48 <Diablo-D3> isnt it linked from the main website?
519 2011-12-03 16:48:51 <Diablo-D3> I thought it was
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522 2011-12-03 16:49:58 <Diablo-D3> use https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues
523 2011-12-03 16:52:06 <makomk> Diablo-D3: Linden Labs have been running an official exchange between USD and Linden Dollars since about (*searches*) 2005. It's always allowed trade in both directions.
524 2011-12-03 16:52:15 <Diablo-D3> huh
525 2011-12-03 16:52:25 <Diablo-D3> I wonder why they're not complying with the law then
526 2011-12-03 16:52:51 <cocktopus> they have a special deal with paypal from what i understand
527 2011-12-03 16:53:12 <makomk> They also have all sorts of secretive anti-money-laundering and anti-fraud measures.
528 2011-12-03 16:53:26 <Diablo-D3> ahh, thats the line I was looking for
529 2011-12-03 16:53:36 <Diablo-D3> which means they ARE complying with thhhhhhhe law
530 2011-12-03 16:53:41 <Diablo-D3> and my keyboard still hates me
531 2011-12-03 16:53:45 <cocktopus> nice missing interupt
532 2011-12-03 16:54:28 <Diablo-D3> yeah, its dropping interrupts every few seconds
533 2011-12-03 16:54:30 <Diablo-D3> Im not sure why
534 2011-12-03 16:54:49 <Eliel> I think the only ways to buy linden dollars is through paypal and with a credit card too.
535 2011-12-03 16:54:56 <Eliel> and the only way to get them out is paypal.
536 2011-12-03 16:55:33 <Eliel> at least, if you use the linden labs' exchange.
537 2011-12-03 16:55:40 <cocktopus> virwox does a booming trade
538 2011-12-03 16:55:44 <cocktopus> for a huge fee
539 2011-12-03 16:55:53 <Diablo-D3> Eliel: yeah which identifies you legally to the IRS
540 2011-12-03 17:02:30 <Eliel> Diablo-D3: so I guess lindens don't have to care too much about that. Paypal and credit card companies do that.
541 2011-12-03 17:02:55 <Diablo-D3> as long as they have anti-post-9/11 shit in place, they're fine
542 2011-12-03 17:03:02 <Diablo-D3> the largest worry is money laundering
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584 2011-12-03 20:34:46 <gavinandresen> luke-jr:  I didn't get the ;;later tell gavin*  comment that I see in the IRC logs.
585 2011-12-03 20:35:36 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: ... but to answer your question, no the listtransactions regression bug isn't part of the op_eval backports
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592 2011-12-03 20:51:25 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: ok, I'll go ahead with the update today then
593 2011-12-03 20:51:38 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: I presume you got it as soon as you said that, btw?
594 2011-12-03 20:51:49 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: nope
595 2011-12-03 20:51:59 <luke-jr> O.o
596 2011-12-03 20:52:03 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: maybe another gavinsomething got it
597 2011-12-03 20:52:08 <luke-jr> lol maybe
598 2011-12-03 20:52:10 <luke-jr> >_<
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637 2011-12-03 22:40:27 <Lolcust> Hello ! Could someone please let me know if 1) the author of BCCAPI hangs out on IRC 2) if so, what is his handle ?
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