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 45 2011-12-25 03:14:24 <Kiba`> hey guys
 46 2011-12-25 03:14:28 <Kiba`> I want to fund a game with bitcoin
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 54 2011-12-25 03:36:36 <Kiba`> luke-jr: and you will donate a bitcoin to help get my project started
 55 2011-12-25 03:37:37 <Kiba`> luke-jr: http://kibabase.com/articles/the-city-a-modest-proposal
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127 2011-12-25 06:45:48 <Rabbit67890> MagicalTux: Thanks
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137 2011-12-25 08:03:45 <midnightmagic> HAPPY XMAS! :)
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199 2011-12-25 11:03:19 <kazey> Hi guys i am preety new to bitcoin concepts, i understand the P2P part but i am a bit confused about something. Lets say i receive BTC to a store, and its in the wallet, is there a way I can transfer it to the bitcoin desktop client to enable ease of transfer to whoever i want
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257 2011-12-25 13:49:21 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Gavin Andresen master * rfe35816 / src/main.cpp : Be more conservative: check all transactions in blocks after last checkpoint. - http://git.io/ZbaFUA https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/fe358165e3ed3656dcc501f1a585dd5eaecf9b45
258 2011-12-25 13:49:22 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Gavin Andresen master * r6996a9d / src/main.cpp : Check for valid prevout.n in FetchInputs. ... https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/6996a9d7131cc634cb67dcd56a71ca9744001c8f
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262 2011-12-25 14:20:57 <TuxBlackEdo> merry christmas gavinandresen
263 2011-12-25 14:24:52 * luke-jr peers
264 2011-12-25 14:24:59 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: I thought you were gone for Christmas? :P
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267 2011-12-25 14:27:05 <sipa> "gone" is relative
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269 2011-12-25 14:29:31 <JFK911> gone: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078434/Mother-confesses-throwing-daughters-corpse-trash.html
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273 2011-12-25 14:50:52 <gavinandresen> I am gone for Christmas... Merry Christmas everybody!
274 2011-12-25 14:51:25 <TuxBlackEdo> afk for christmas
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276 2011-12-25 14:53:01 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr 0.5.x * r1a778b07496d bitcoind-stable/src/main.cpp: Merge branch '0.5.0.x' into 0.5.x http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/w/bitcoind/stable.git/commitdiff/1a778b07496d9ceb4527ba3b6a59e28154bb02c5
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278 2011-12-25 14:53:51 <gavinandresen> I would be completely gone if I didn't get a report of a remotely exploitable crashing bug in git HEAD last night...  sigh.
279 2011-12-25 14:54:20 <luke-jr> heh, that one DID seem more serious than the commit message suggested <.<
280 2011-12-25 14:54:55 <luke-jr> although 0.4 and 0.5 don't check inputs for "standardness", so I wonder just how bad it is for them
281 2011-12-25 14:55:05 <gavinandresen> at least it was caught before we produced binaries-- but anybody running git HEAD on the production network should pull
282 2011-12-25 14:55:09 <makomk> gavinandresen: sorry about that.
283 2011-12-25 14:55:17 <gavinandresen> Doesn't affect 0.4/0.5 or my backported patches
284 2011-12-25 14:55:39 <gavinandresen> makomk: no need to apologize, critical bugs need to get reported and fixed
285 2011-12-25 14:55:41 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: oh, did 0.4/0.5 have a check for that condition somewhere else?
286 2011-12-25 14:55:58 <luke-jr> in any case, I backported the part that fit with ConnectInputs
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288 2011-12-25 14:56:40 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: the bug is I messed up with I split the old ConnectInputs into FetchInputs/ConnectInputs
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290 2011-12-25 14:58:23 <gavinandresen> makomk: You don't happen to have an intelligent input-fuzzing tool, do you?
291 2011-12-25 14:58:35 <luke-jr> doh, you're right, I just doubled up the check…
292 2011-12-25 14:59:17 <makomk> gavinandresen: sadly not; discovered this completely by accident.
293 2011-12-25 15:01:03 <nanotube> i bet there are such things living on sourceforge
294 2011-12-25 15:01:07 <makomk> (I managed to accidentally introduce a bug that mangled transactions in a different way which triggered the same crash.)
295 2011-12-25 15:01:27 <luke-jr> LLVM has a nice thing for testing
296 2011-12-25 15:02:07 <luke-jr> I don't know how to use it tho
297 2011-12-25 15:02:27 <makomk> gavinandresen: also, see your e-mail...
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299 2011-12-25 15:02:56 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr 0.5.x * ra91a40febd06 bitcoind-stable/src/main.cpp: Merge branch '0.5.0.x' into 0.5.x http://tinyurl.com/coewtvq
300 2011-12-25 15:03:33 <luke-jr> I think I'm going to EOL 0.5.0.x as soon as 0.6.0 is out
301 2011-12-25 15:03:40 <luke-jr> too redundant
302 2011-12-25 15:03:48 <gavinandresen> nanotube: I want a bitcoin-specific fuzzer, that does things like fuzzes a transaction then computes a valid hash....
303 2011-12-25 15:04:23 <nanotube> gavinandresen: well, then some work will probably be required :)
304 2011-12-25 15:04:29 <luke-jr> LLVM's tool simulates every possible input to the program ;)
305 2011-12-25 15:05:01 <nanotube> luke-jr: haha well, 99.9-> percent of inputs will not have a valid hash then. ;)
306 2011-12-25 15:05:10 <nanotube> but if time is not a constraint.... :)
307 2011-12-25 15:05:17 <luke-jr> nanotube: sure, but you'll catch crashes
308 2011-12-25 15:05:31 <luke-jr> nanotube: you're assuming it's slow, brute-force ;)
309 2011-12-25 15:05:44 <gavinandresen> makomk: that'll teach me to try to fix bugs between opening presents and breakfast....
310 2011-12-25 15:05:59 <luke-jr> nanotube: rather, AIUI, it allows memory to contain quantum states basically
311 2011-12-25 15:06:12 <gavinandresen> makomk: (I got the assert condition backwards)
312 2011-12-25 15:06:22 <luke-jr> nanotube: so when there's a branch, it follows both paths (constrained by the quantum state of the condition)
313 2011-12-25 15:06:30 <nanotube> heh
314 2011-12-25 15:06:32 <makomk> gavinandresen: ah, that explains it.
315 2011-12-25 15:07:08 * luke-jr ponders how that tool would handle SHA256
316 2011-12-25 15:07:44 <luke-jr> I suppose the hashing might slow it down
317 2011-12-25 15:08:09 <gavinandresen> You'll never accidently get a valid SHA256 hash
318 2011-12-25 15:09:20 <gavinandresen> ... so a dumb input fuzzer will never exercise any code after a "does the hash match the data I was expecting to get" check
319 2011-12-25 15:09:51 <gavinandresen> Ditto for fuzzing blocks-- a smart block fuzzer should fuzz the block, then do the proof-of-work so the block has a valid hash....
320 2011-12-25 15:09:59 <gavinandresen> (dumb fuzzing should also be done, of course)
321 2011-12-25 15:10:46 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Gavin Andresen master * r60835d9 / src/main.cpp : assert condition in previous commit was backwards - http://git.io/-IEC6Q https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/60835d96276549ce17fe163a18c2f78dc5b267bc
322 2011-12-25 15:11:33 <cjdelisle> perhaps it would make a nice unit test, just generate a random tx/block and call the verification function on it
323 2011-12-25 15:11:49 <cjdelisle> then fuzzing is just a matter of running that unit test in a loop
324 2011-12-25 15:11:55 <makomk> gavinandresen: yep, that seems to work nicely now the assertion's fixed :-)
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326 2011-12-25 15:13:14 <gavinandresen> cjdelisle: I think a speaks-at-the-network-protocol-level fuzzer would be worth the investment of time, because it will test any implementation
327 2011-12-25 15:13:25 <gavinandresen> (unit tests are always a good idea, too....)
328 2011-12-25 15:13:29 <cjdelisle> good point..
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330 2011-12-25 15:14:35 <cjdelisle> I'm too lazy/pressed to write lots of unit tests for my project so I end up writing one unit test which tests a whole lot of code at once, kind of a unit/functional test
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335 2011-12-25 15:18:36 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: LLVM's quantum-like thing will get past it I think
336 2011-12-25 15:19:48 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: cool. I don't know nuthin about LLVM, you willing to tackle that project?
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340 2011-12-25 15:21:28 <makomk> gavinandresen: actually, I have a feeling the patch may not be enough on second thoughts.
341 2011-12-25 15:21:54 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: unfortunately, I haven't had time to even look at it for my paid work yet :/
342 2011-12-25 15:21:54 <gavinandresen> makomk: what did I miss?
343 2011-12-25 15:22:05 <luke-jr> (I also know nothing about LLVM)
344 2011-12-25 15:22:25 <makomk>         if (inputsRet.count(prevout.hash))
345 2011-12-25 15:22:25 <makomk>             continue; // Got it already
346 2011-12-25 15:23:07 <makomk> ^ it's only checked for the first input from that input transaction.
347 2011-12-25 15:24:29 <gavinandresen> Hmm?  In FetchInputs() ?  that's in a for () loop over all inputs
348 2011-12-25 15:24:47 <gavinandresen> Oh, I see what you're saying....
349 2011-12-25 15:25:10 <gavinandresen> ... need to duplicate the check before continuing...
350 2011-12-25 15:25:49 <makomk> Yep, or something. Just fired up and crashed a node with latest git head.
351 2011-12-25 15:25:56 <gavinandresen> makomk: good catch.
352 2011-12-25 15:26:42 <nanotube> gavinandresen: maybe you should save this for after breakfast :)
353 2011-12-25 15:27:58 <makomk> Yeah, that might be a good idea. The world probably won't catch fire in the next hour or so. I hope.
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355 2011-12-25 15:30:18 <Diablo-D3> help
356 2011-12-25 15:30:22 <Diablo-D3> er
357 2011-12-25 15:30:23 <Diablo-D3> welp
358 2011-12-25 15:30:34 <Diablo-D3> I guess my bid to save bitcoin has failed.
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360 2011-12-25 15:36:45 <gavinandresen> makomk: Can you git am the patch I just sent via email and test?
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362 2011-12-25 15:37:19 <makomk> gavinandresen: sure!
363 2011-12-25 15:39:44 <makomk> gavinandresen: yeah, that seems to fix it.
364 2011-12-25 15:40:22 <kiba> hey guys, I wanna make a game! Fund me with some bitcoin!
365 2011-12-25 15:40:30 <kiba> http://kibabase.com/articles/the-city-a-modest-proposal
366 2011-12-25 15:40:32 <gavinandresen> makomk: great, thanks.
367 2011-12-25 15:40:50 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Gavin Andresen master * r61977f9 / src/main.cpp : Check all prevout.n if one transaction provides multiple inputs - http://git.io/ksFPOQ https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/61977f956c6bacd6e05e3211bf2a90e5b5672a94
368 2011-12-25 15:40:54 <makomk> gavinandresen: no problem, hope you enjoy the rest of your Christmas!
369 2011-12-25 15:41:03 <gavinandresen> ... one of these years I'll manage to get everything right the first time... (hah!)
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379 2011-12-25 16:43:11 <finway> Merry Chrismas!
380 2011-12-25 16:43:36 <cjdelisle> And Merry Christmas to you, and Merry Yesterday and Merry Tomorrow :)
381 2011-12-25 16:44:34 <finway> Thank you for your hard work, all  the developers, it's my hornor to know you guys.
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390 2011-12-25 17:06:52 <Red_> hi
391 2011-12-25 17:07:01 <Red_> In the Bitcoin addresses generation - what means step 4 Add network byte ?
392 2011-12-25 17:09:50 <[Tycho]> May be it's the version number ?
393 2011-12-25 17:10:51 <sipa> it is
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396 2011-12-25 17:20:19 <Red_> hm
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398 2011-12-25 17:21:20 <Red_> Does Network ID Byte mean version number?
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401 2011-12-25 17:27:43 <[Tycho]> Yes.
402 2011-12-25 17:28:14 <[Tycho]> Currently there are two version numbers allowed in bitcoin addresses.
403 2011-12-25 17:28:32 <[Tycho]> And some are used by alt chains or testnet.
404 2011-12-25 17:31:31 <Red_> thanks for the info .cya
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432 2011-12-25 19:41:45 <Diablo-D3> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51371.0
433 2011-12-25 19:41:52 <Diablo-D3> CAUTION: DO NOT INSERT INTO A MEMORY SLOT!!!
434 2011-12-25 19:41:56 * Diablo-D3 inserts!
435 2011-12-25 19:44:41 <lianj> blockchain overflow
436 2011-12-25 19:46:29 <cjdelisle> pretty neat, I hope someone makes something like that w/ gb ethernet socket because it would have other uses apart from mining
437 2011-12-25 19:50:02 <Diablo-D3> gmaxwell: did someone update the top 10 lately?
438 2011-12-25 19:50:10 <Diablo-D3> I dont remember it looking like that
439 2011-12-25 19:52:09 <Diablo-D3> oh well time to update
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441 2011-12-25 20:03:12 <Joric> damnit those boards still need air cooling
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443 2011-12-25 20:09:50 <Diablo-D3> emc is down goddamnit
444 2011-12-25 20:09:54 <Diablo-D3> oh wait there it goes
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448 2011-12-25 20:19:56 <Diablo-D3> there top ten done
449 2011-12-25 20:20:43 <Diablo-D3> deepbit, slush, btc guild, abcpool, eligius, bitclockers, emc, bitcoins.lc, ars, btcmine
450 2011-12-25 20:23:23 <CIA-100> libbitcoin: genjix * r33c0cc31a703 /doc/organize/ (begin.svg index.html pool.png tree.png): Added organize document. http://tinyurl.com/7npghvh
451 2011-12-25 20:25:04 <Joric> Diablo-D3, do you have an url to the hashrate distribution chart?
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453 2011-12-25 20:26:19 <Diablo-D3> Joric: no
454 2011-12-25 20:26:37 <Diablo-D3> its probably 60% deepbit, 40% everybody else.
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460 2011-12-25 20:42:52 <Diablo-D3> https://imgur.com/gallery/0czi8
461 2011-12-25 20:42:53 <Diablo-D3> :3
462 2011-12-25 20:44:33 <cjdelisle> must be a lot of people in here who clicked because they claim to be "over capacity"
463 2011-12-25 20:45:03 <Rabbit67890> haha :3
464 2011-12-25 20:45:16 <Diablo-D3> fuck.
465 2011-12-25 20:45:27 <Diablo-D3> bitcoin: ruining your internets since 2010.
466 2011-12-25 20:45:33 <Rabbit67890> Don't really see the image, but theres a image saying its over capacity…. :3
467 2011-12-25 20:45:48 <Diablo-D3> keep trying
468 2011-12-25 20:45:51 <Rabbit67890> damnit. this is #bitcoin-dev
469 2011-12-25 20:46:00 <Diablo-D3> THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAA
470 2011-12-25 20:46:03 * Diablo-D3 does techno beat
471 2011-12-25 20:46:31 <cjdelisle> didjya here? irc.anonops is back, the wild ddos days are here again
472 2011-12-25 20:46:37 <Rabbit67890>    D:
473 2011-12-25 20:46:51 <cjdelisle> yesterday sweden's link to efnet kept splitting
474 2011-12-25 20:46:52 <cjdelisle> heh
475 2011-12-25 20:46:57 <Rabbit67890> heh
476 2011-12-25 20:46:59 <Diablo-D3> dude
477 2011-12-25 20:47:01 <Diablo-D3> its efnet
478 2011-12-25 20:47:10 <Rabbit67890> they DDOS imgur now...
479 2011-12-25 20:47:12 <Diablo-D3> efnet splits more than ... than... fuck.
480 2011-12-25 20:47:16 <cjdelisle> …
481 2011-12-25 20:47:22 <Diablo-D3> I have nothing.
482 2011-12-25 20:47:27 * Diablo-D3 hangs head in shame
483 2011-12-25 20:47:56 <cjdelisle> noone can beat the mighty lukedots
484 2011-12-25 20:48:20 * Rabbit67890 has disconnected (net.split)
485 2011-12-25 20:48:49 * cjdelisle doesn't like that freenode thing where they hide the name of the split servers :P
486 2011-12-25 20:48:55 <Rabbit67890> haha
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488 2011-12-25 20:49:28 <Rabbit67890> You have been disconnected. (net.split.bitcoin.freenode.net:6667)
489 2011-12-25 20:50:25 <cjdelisle> *.net and *.split are not server names , I dowt caw wut you say
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521 2011-12-25 22:43:28 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * r59293a37d6ab cgminer/util.c: Only pthread_join when pthread_cancel does not return an error. http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/w/cpuminer/cgminer.git/commitdiff/59293a37d6abaa879e6f24e26b206a3b318b2f79
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524 2011-12-25 22:50:36 <onelineproof> Can a length 33 bitcoin address be valid?
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526 2011-12-25 22:52:28 <wladston> anyone out there using django-bitcoin ?
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529 2011-12-25 22:54:30 <onelineproof> I making a c program to print out address and private key pairs. So far everything looks good except some addresses are of length 33 instead of 34. I compared with pywallet and they also have those addresses as length 33, so I'm guessing it's fine.
530 2011-12-25 22:55:01 <wladston> it's fine, there are even smaller addresses
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532 2011-12-25 22:55:23 <onelineproof> Can private key be less than 51 length?
533 2011-12-25 22:55:39 <onelineproof> in standard format
534 2011-12-25 22:55:53 <wladston> I don't think so
535 2011-12-25 22:56:55 <wladston> but I'm not that much into the cripto part
536 2011-12-25 22:57:01 <onelineproof> ya so far I only get 51, but I may take care of the other cases in case it is
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538 2011-12-25 22:57:48 <cjdelisle> that's a private key in base58?
539 2011-12-25 22:57:51 <wladston> looks like you get smaller adresses if you have zeroes at the beggining of your key
540 2011-12-25 22:58:09 <onelineproof> ya in bitcoin base 58 format
541 2011-12-25 22:58:18 <onelineproof> starts with a 5
542 2011-12-25 22:58:39 <cjdelisle> from what I know of base58, don't count on anything
543 2011-12-25 23:00:00 <onelineproof> ya its not such a big deal, I can take care of the smaller cases.
544 2011-12-25 23:00:16 <onelineproof> Ill put the code on github in case someone wants to use it
545 2011-12-25 23:00:23 <onelineproof> tomorrow maybe
546 2011-12-25 23:02:06 <cjdelisle> also, and this is just me, I'd be inclined to represent private keys in hex because then it's blatently clear that you are not to be pasting them to people asking for money
547 2011-12-25 23:02:39 <cjdelisle> it's a "Whow, that is not a bitcoin address" message
548 2011-12-25 23:02:40 <onelineproof> no but I want to make a paper wallet
549 2011-12-25 23:02:48 <onelineproof> in qr format also
550 2011-12-25 23:02:57 <cjdelisle> ahh
551 2011-12-25 23:03:28 <cjdelisle> I wish you luck and I hope you use C++ because "print wallet" is something bitcoin needs
552 2011-12-25 23:03:38 <onelineproof> its in c
553 2011-12-25 23:03:51 <onelineproof> only depends on libdb and libcrypto
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555 2011-12-25 23:04:19 <cjdelisle> well if I ever fork bitcoin, I'm certainly going to integrate it
556 2011-12-25 23:04:31 <onelineproof> theres already pywallet that does it, but i just wanted to make it simpler
557 2011-12-25 23:04:52 <onelineproof> and kind of gain a better understanding :)
558 2011-12-25 23:04:57 <gmaxwell> cjdelisle: BAM https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin/tree/showwallet
559 2011-12-25 23:05:02 <gmaxwell> cjdelisle: do I get a prize?
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561 2011-12-25 23:06:16 <cjdelisle> very nice
562 2011-12-25 23:06:37 <wladston> well, anyone knows Jeremias Kangas ? he is the guy who coded django-bitcoin
563 2011-12-25 23:07:09 <cjdelisle> Here's your golden star  ★  you're going to have to pretend it's golden because this channel is +c
564 2011-12-25 23:07:42 <Diablo-D3> bwhah
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568 2011-12-25 23:15:19 <onelineproof> what's the difference between "key" and "wkey" in the wallet.dat?
569 2011-12-25 23:19:25 <onelineproof> im guessing it only applies to some other crypto currencies like litecoin or namecoin, because I dont see it in my wallet, but it shows up as a case in pywallet
570 2011-12-25 23:24:52 <Joric> i wrote pywallet
571 2011-12-25 23:25:50 <Joric> well, the very first version of it )
572 2011-12-25 23:27:08 <Joric> wkey is 'wallet key', [public key, private key, created, expires, comment]
573 2011-12-25 23:28:09 <onelineproof> in my wallet i don't see that as a "type" in wallet.dat
574 2011-12-25 23:28:23 <onelineproof> but it's not such a big deal, i can still add that case
575 2011-12-25 23:29:37 <Joric> yeah there's no wkeys in my wallet as well just tried to trace those
576 2011-12-25 23:30:56 <Joric> only 'key' entries, no 'wkey's
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578 2011-12-25 23:31:49 <sipa> not sure what wkey entries were used for
579 2011-12-25 23:31:54 <sipa> i've never seen them used
580 2011-12-25 23:32:15 <Joric> even gavin doesn't know what they are for afaik
581 2011-12-25 23:32:20 <onelineproof> ya its not just in pywallet, it was originally written by gavin in his bitcointools, and maybe even in the original client
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583 2011-12-25 23:32:45 <Joric> maybe they were planned for 'lightweight' client or something
584 2011-12-25 23:32:47 <sipa> well, what they are for: wallet keys that expire
585 2011-12-25 23:32:52 <sipa> just for security
586 2011-12-25 23:32:54 <sipa> is my guess
587 2011-12-25 23:33:14 <onelineproof> db.cpp:854:            else if (strType == "key" || strType == "wkey")
588 2011-12-25 23:33:16 <Joric> maybe a future feature they hold creation date and shit
589 2011-12-25 23:33:41 <sipa> onelineproof: the base58 private key format can be shorten than 51 characters i believe
590 2011-12-25 23:33:44 <sipa> *shorter
591 2011-12-25 23:33:50 <onelineproof> ok cool
592 2011-12-25 23:34:28 <sipa> just base58 decode them - bitcoin uses a weird scheme for doing so
593 2011-12-25 23:34:40 <sipa> that doesn't gauarantee constant length
594 2011-12-25 23:35:03 <Joric> do you guys ever celebrate christmas? :D
595 2011-12-25 23:35:14 <sipa> it's december 26 over here ;)
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598 2011-12-25 23:45:03 <[Tycho]> Depending on the christmas.
599 2011-12-25 23:46:29 <cjdelisle> tycho are your miner boxes fpga based?
600 2011-12-25 23:46:43 <[Tycho]> No.
601 2011-12-25 23:46:47 <cjdelisle> asic?
602 2011-12-25 23:47:00 <[Tycho]> Which boxes are you talking about ?
603 2011-12-25 23:47:12 <cjdelisle> the ones you were talking about building and selling a while back
604 2011-12-25 23:47:16 <[Tycho]> Yes, ASIC.
605 2011-12-25 23:47:55 <cjdelisle> k, I'm just curious about anything that's got fpgas connected to ethernet sockets and has been driven down in price by miners buying them
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607 2011-12-25 23:48:00 <cjdelisle> for little crypto boxen
608 2011-12-25 23:48:09 <[Tycho]> VPN ?
609 2011-12-25 23:48:21 <cjdelisle> like that but all my own code
610 2011-12-25 23:48:44 <[Tycho]> Do you know that you don't need FPGAs for that ? Ordinary CPUs are fast enough.
611 2011-12-25 23:49:24 <Joric> ASIC? where do you get those, are they non-reprogrammable?
612 2011-12-25 23:49:34 <[Tycho]> Also you can use either any development board with ethernet or connect some ethernet transceiver to ngzhang's board.
613 2011-12-25 23:49:40 <[Tycho]> Joric: yes.
614 2011-12-25 23:49:55 <cjdelisle> I'm getting ~25Mb/s on my desktop running to a kvm instance on my desktop but that's with 3 layers of crypto and most nodes will only be doing one.
615 2011-12-25 23:50:28 <[Tycho]> ASICs are never reprogrammable.
616 2011-12-25 23:50:38 <cjdelisle> still interested in pushing that into the thousandish range
617 2011-12-25 23:51:07 <Joric> i suppose they only know how to calculate sha256? how many at once?
618 2011-12-25 23:51:23 <[Tycho]> Joric: how many of what ?
619 2011-12-25 23:51:37 <cjdelisle> sha circuits?
620 2011-12-25 23:51:45 <[Tycho]> cjdelisle: thousands of Mb/s ?
621 2011-12-25 23:52:14 <cjdelisle> That's the hope, these are going to be running between colo'd nodes if everything works out right
622 2011-12-25 23:52:39 <cjdelisle> so nodes are going to be routing for other nodes which drives up the mb/s peretty fast
623 2011-12-25 23:52:43 <[Tycho]> Why would you need that ?
624 2011-12-25 23:52:57 <cjdelisle> replacing the internet ;)
625 2011-12-25 23:54:32 <cjdelisle> an interesting property of this algorithm is that most routing can be done with no routing table lookups, the packet tells the router (which I call a "switch") which interface to send it down.
626 2011-12-25 23:54:44 datagutt has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
627 2011-12-25 23:54:47 <cjdelisle> Which means it can run on nonstandard hardware
628 2011-12-25 23:56:04 <[Tycho]> Replacing internet and running over it ?
629 2011-12-25 23:57:13 <cjdelisle> everything has to start somewhere
630 2011-12-25 23:57:52 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * rb69aa23470ce cgminer/ (miner.h util.c): Use control_lock to protect thr->pth for thread creation/destruction. http://tinyurl.com/cxdmo5s
631 2011-12-25 23:58:10 <cjdelisle> the end vision is no more vpn links over "legacy" networks
632 2011-12-25 23:59:22 <[Tycho]> What are the benefits of your system ?
633 2011-12-25 23:59:58 <[Tycho]> And what is the level ?