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  80 2012-01-05 02:51:03 <gmaxwell> gavin:
  81 2012-01-05 02:51:04 <gmaxwell> -  h160 = hash_160(public_key, version=version)
  82 2012-01-05 02:51:04 <gmaxwell> -  return hash_160_to_bc_address(h160)
  83 2012-01-05 02:51:04 <gmaxwell> +  h160 = hash_160(public_key)
  84 2012-01-05 02:51:04 <gmaxwell> +  return hash_160_to_bc_address(h160, version=version)
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  86 2012-01-05 02:53:29 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: hes offline...
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  92 2012-01-05 03:00:11 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: he reads the logs.
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  97 2012-01-05 03:09:47 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: ;;later tell?
  98 2012-01-05 03:10:22 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: eh, can't pass a patch that way. I'll just email him a patch.
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 100 2012-01-05 03:15:22 <gmaxwell> Weird txn: https://blockexplorer.com/tx/dbef465eee9ec8c29884ab56547aa6de0ac294c1f05830bd927f0d060b54e415
 101 2012-01-05 03:15:25 <gmaxwell> (look at the fees)
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 104 2012-01-05 03:20:50 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: ok, some idiot paid a huge fee, so?
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 106 2012-01-05 03:23:01 <gmaxwell> yea, yea, not _that_ interesting.
 107 2012-01-05 03:23:17 <gmaxwell> someone is saying there is a block with 305 in fees, I'm looking for it now.
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 109 2012-01-05 03:28:13 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: if the client made him pay that fee, it would be crazy, but clearly the guys an idiot...
 110 2012-01-05 03:29:26 <gmaxwell> yea, though I wonder what brand of idiocy caused that.
 111 2012-01-05 03:29:58 <gmaxwell> for example, is the fee field poorly localized so that , and . are being confused in some way?
 112 2012-01-05 03:30:39 <BlueMatt> hmm, yea
 113 2012-01-05 03:31:01 <gmaxwell> I'm sort of tempted to write a patch to cap the fee at some high but sane amount to prevent foot-gunning.
 114 2012-01-05 03:31:05 <gmaxwell> e.g. 1 BTC or something like that.
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 116 2012-01-05 03:31:39 <BlueMatt> free market ;)
 117 2012-01-05 03:33:06 <gmaxwell> oh, well, if people _want_ to do that I don't care... I would just feel sad if people accidentally did it due to a typo, confusing interface, etc.
 118 2012-01-05 03:34:22 <BlueMatt> I suppose putting it in the satoshi client wouldnt be objectionable as long as we accept whatever crap we get
 119 2012-01-05 03:34:41 <doublec> I've seen some 48 btc fee transactions
 120 2012-01-05 03:34:41 <gmaxwell> oh yea, accept is fine.
 121 2012-01-05 03:34:43 <gmaxwell> https://blockexplorer.com/tx/1d7749c65c90c32f5e2c036217a2574f3f4403da39174626b246eefa620b58d9
 122 2012-01-05 03:34:48 <nanotube> maybe the guy was washing btc by putting stuff into fees and mining his own block.
 123 2012-01-05 03:34:48 <doublec> nothing as high as 300 though
 124 2012-01-05 03:34:51 <gmaxwell> How about 171 btc?
 125 2012-01-05 03:35:00 <BlueMatt> holy shot
 126 2012-01-05 03:35:07 <BlueMatt> s/ho/hi/
 127 2012-01-05 03:35:09 <doublec> wow, what block is that?
 128 2012-01-05 03:35:27 <gmaxwell> https://blockexplorer.com/block/00000000000009736897988613310282732f87d22a22533940d3d986257d90e1
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 131 2012-01-05 03:37:49 <BlueMatt> nanotube: heh, so that narrows it down to what, like 3 people?
 132 2012-01-05 03:38:16 <gmaxwell> ... do I have nanotube on ignore?
 133 2012-01-05 03:38:27 <gmaxwell> oh there is nanotube
 134 2012-01-05 03:38:30 <BlueMatt> why the hell would you do that?
 135 2012-01-05 03:38:53 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: want to test to see if people will fork the chain to steal fees? :)
 136 2012-01-05 03:38:59 <nanotube> BlueMatt: not really, you can mine a block solo within a week with a fairly modest amount of hash power.
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 140 2012-01-05 03:39:32 <nanotube> gmaxwell loves me, he wouldn't ignore me :)
 141 2012-01-05 03:39:47 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: heh, I wouldnt put it past luke or Tycho...
 142 2012-01-05 03:39:52 <BlueMatt> and probably slush too...
 143 2012-01-05 03:40:25 <BlueMatt> nanotube: meh, what would I know, I have no hash power...
 144 2012-01-05 03:40:54 <nanotube> well, bc,calc knows ;)
 145 2012-01-05 03:40:58 <gmaxwell> blocks since 155000 with >1 btc in fees: http://pastebin.com/aFm7J1we
 146 2012-01-05 03:41:27 <BlueMatt> 221, my god...
 147 2012-01-05 03:41:35 * BlueMatt starts to think nanotube is right...
 148 2012-01-05 03:41:39 <nanotube> mm that's quite a few
 149 2012-01-05 03:41:55 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: thats the payment not the fee.
 150 2012-01-05 03:42:04 <gmaxwell> 221 is the 171 btc fee block
 151 2012-01-05 03:42:35 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: oh
 152 2012-01-05 03:42:47 <gmaxwell> two txn with exactly 42.94967296 in fees.
 153 2012-01-05 03:42:47 <BlueMatt> still, it might be btc-washing
 154 2012-01-05 03:44:30 <gmaxwell> This address is involved in many of them: https://blockexplorer.com/address/18acFQe4qGB7wEhApeSHcx49Aeh76y137B
 155 2012-01-05 03:45:12 <BlueMatt> uh oh...
 156 2012-01-05 03:45:22 <BlueMatt> someone is badly btc-washing...
 157 2012-01-05 03:45:51 <gmaxwell> could just be some broken ass code.
 158 2012-01-05 03:46:01 <nanotube> well, the whole concept is not that great - you know that any block that had ridiculous amount of fees is probably self-mined
 159 2012-01-05 03:46:07 <nanotube> so it doesn't do much for 'washing'
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 161 2012-01-05 03:47:20 <gmaxwell> this persons txns are nuts
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 163 2012-01-05 03:47:29 <gmaxwell> they keep sending fees from some address to the same address.
 164 2012-01-05 03:47:37 <gmaxwell> e.g. look at one of their other addresses: https://blockexplorer.com/address/15kDcr9wDhZmvPufKP7vYyELSoLg4bKbAR
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 166 2012-01-05 03:48:06 <gmaxwell> like someone trying hard to 'wash' coins by sending the coins to themselves.
 167 2012-01-05 03:48:19 <gmaxwell> while simultaniously being set to 10 btc fee per kilobyte.
 168 2012-01-05 03:49:33 <BlueMatt> they are probably just having fun...
 169 2012-01-05 03:50:01 <gmaxwell> well, if they want to lose lots of btc having fun they can send them to me!
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 173 2012-01-05 03:52:04 <nanotube> heh let's find this person and ask him! blockchain analyzer bot, go! :)
 174 2012-01-05 03:52:26 * BlueMatt ponders telling luke so that he can steal the coins...
 175 2012-01-05 03:54:41 <gmaxwell> Luke doesn't have enough hash power that forking is net profitable for 171 btc fee, I think.
 176 2012-01-05 03:55:16 <nanotube> hehe maybe tycho
 177 2012-01-05 03:55:22 <gmaxwell> tycho, sure.
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 184 2012-01-05 04:01:05 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: typedef std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, secure_allocator<char> > SecureString;
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 186 2012-01-05 04:01:30 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: and?
 187 2012-01-05 04:03:25 <gmaxwell> oh it's only used for the walletpass, nevermind.
 188 2012-01-05 04:03:47 <gmaxwell> I didn't actually check to see where it was used, I'd just assumed that since it was in another file it was an oversight.
 189 2012-01-05 04:03:55 <gmaxwell> (I'm giving your patch a final review before I ACK)
 190 2012-01-05 04:03:58 <gmaxwell> Sorry.
 191 2012-01-05 04:04:18 <BlueMatt> its fine
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 197 2012-01-05 04:24:27 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: thanks, feel like doing https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/593 /
 198 2012-01-05 04:24:29 <BlueMatt> ?
 199 2012-01-05 04:25:01 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: Ill pay you a few btc...
 200 2012-01-05 04:26:19 <gmaxwell> I don't even have bitcoin on anything with X on it. :)
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 202 2012-01-05 04:26:29 <gmaxwell> I'll test lots of stuff, stuff that depends on the UI.. meh.
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 205 2012-01-05 04:27:18 <BlueMatt> god, how hard can it be to get damn testers on a patch that has URL support...
 206 2012-01-05 04:28:01 <gmaxwell> hit the forum, at worst you might have to build it for someone.
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 208 2012-01-05 04:30:36 * BlueMatt would prefer to get developer acks instead of random forum-user acks...
 209 2012-01-05 04:33:24 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: learning the hard way what happens when you snub the things important to others? :P
 210 2012-01-05 04:33:24 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: what was the motivation behind using the boost ipc instead of our existing rpc?
 211 2012-01-05 04:33:42 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: Bitcoin-Qt doesn't support JSON-RPC by default
 212 2012-01-05 04:34:10 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: yes, but it could.. e.g. fill bitcoin.conf with random username and password if there isn't one.
 213 2012-01-05 04:34:31 <BlueMatt> that
 214 2012-01-05 04:34:33 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: only person I snubbed was you...
 215 2012-01-05 04:34:34 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: it's a security risk.
 216 2012-01-05 04:34:56 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: and I would be gungho on getting that tested, if it didn't intentionally exclude what I cared about
 217 2012-01-05 04:35:06 <gmaxwell> I suppose, is the boost IPC not also a security risk?
 218 2012-01-05 04:35:21 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: no, since it can only open a dialog
 219 2012-01-05 04:35:35 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: and only one/second
 220 2012-01-05 04:35:44 <gmaxwell> For now— what underlying mechenism does it use? can another user on the same system reach it?
 221 2012-01-05 04:36:05 <gmaxwell> (sorry for the dumb questions, these are the things I'd try testing out if I was actually going to run it. :) )
 222 2012-01-05 04:37:05 <BlueMatt> if boost::ipc is poorly written...
 223 2012-01-05 04:37:32 <gmaxwell> does the confirmation UI dialog delay agreement like firefox's addon install dialog?
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 226 2012-01-05 04:38:16 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: oh good, and since we know all our libraries are unable to cause us unexpected security problems… ;)   /me googles
 227 2012-01-05 04:38:28 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: good point...
 228 2012-01-05 04:38:35 <BlueMatt> it has a confirmation window before sending
 229 2012-01-05 04:38:48 <BlueMatt> (that lists the list of sends)
 230 2012-01-05 04:39:45 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: seems that the best UI practice these days for security-important webapps is to grey out the agree button for a small timeout to avoid the click-click-click.
 231 2012-01-05 04:40:14 <gmaxwell> What does this do if I'm running multiple copies of bitcoind? (e.g. -testnet and regular.. or just two regular with different datadir?)
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 234 2012-01-05 04:47:20 <gmaxwell> looks like it would get handled by one at random. .. maybe even by two if there is a race in the message queue implementation, its not obvious to me from the docs.
 235 2012-01-05 04:47:26 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: first one opened gets the url
 236 2012-01-05 04:47:45 <BlueMatt> oh, wait no
 237 2012-01-05 04:47:54 <gmaxwell> I'd suggest adding the datadir path and testnet to the queue name.
 238 2012-01-05 04:47:57 <gmaxwell> I don't .. think so.
 239 2012-01-05 04:48:07 <BlueMatt> open_or_create...
 240 2012-01-05 04:48:14 <gmaxwell> I think its the first one to poll.
 241 2012-01-05 04:49:33 <BlueMatt> ...yea its very random...
 242 2012-01-05 04:49:48 <gmaxwell> +    char strBuf[257];
 243 2012-01-05 04:50:14 <gmaxwell> oops.
 244 2012-01-05 04:51:23 <BlueMatt> what about it, the size is 256
 245 2012-01-05 04:51:38 <BlueMatt>         mq = new message_queue(open_or_create, "BitcoinURL", 2, 256);
 246 2012-01-05 04:52:03 <gmaxwell> That was a mispaste. sorry.
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 250 2012-01-05 05:03:49 <luke-jr> not a show-stopper IMO, but ideally it could detect the address version…
 251 2012-01-05 05:04:02 <luke-jr> BitcoinURI<versionnumber>
 252 2012-01-05 05:04:09 <luke-jr> also note that bitcoin: URIs are not URLs :p
 253 2012-01-05 05:04:56 <BlueMatt> yea but people use them interchangeably...
 254 2012-01-05 05:05:46 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: what would the detection do?
 255 2012-01-05 05:07:32 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: only clueless people
 256 2012-01-05 05:07:58 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: well, BitcoinURI_0 would only be opened by mainnet, and BitcoinURI_114 would only be testnet
 257 2012-01-05 05:08:02 <luke-jr> or whatever version testnet is
 258 2012-01-05 05:08:23 <luke-jr> would need to be sure to listen for the OP_EVAL versions too
 259 2012-01-05 05:09:25 <gmaxwell> meh, what happens if you run two mainnet clients with different datadirs (e.g. for different wallets?)
 260 2012-01-05 05:09:34 <gmaxwell> thats why I was suggesting using the datadir in the name.
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 264 2012-01-05 05:13:00 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: that doesn't make sense tho
 265 2012-01-05 05:13:12 <luke-jr> a URI doesn't have a datadir
 266 2012-01-05 05:13:23 <luke-jr> it's equally valid for either
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 268 2012-01-05 05:16:00 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: ... not as part of the URL, but just part of the bitcoin invocation.
 269 2012-01-05 05:16:21 <gmaxwell> e.g. if you're running multiple copies of bitcoin it's up to you to tell the handler about the right one.
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 272 2012-01-05 05:33:38 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: ok, only opens the last bitcoin instance now
 273 2012-01-05 05:33:38 <BlueMatt> (would prefer the first, but I couldnt find a way in boost::message_queue
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 277 2012-01-05 05:44:16 <BlueMatt> 32
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 316 2012-01-05 06:53:42 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Daniel Folkinshteyn * rb2a86e0a7203 supybot-bitcoin-marketmonitor/MarketMonitor/ (config.py plugin.py): MarketMonitor: minor style changes http://tinyurl.com/7nz7bh5
 317 2012-01-05 07:03:43 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Daniel Folkinshteyn * ra416afc6c789 supybot-bitcoin-marketmonitor/MarketMonitor/plugin.py: MarketMonitor: expand field width for market name http://tinyurl.com/788ch9r
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 408 2012-01-05 10:51:09 <epscy> bitcoin uris?
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 413 2012-01-05 11:03:54 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * rec8501a79cd8 cgminer/main.c: Should the donation pool fail, don't make the fallover pool behave as though the primary pool is lagging. http://tinyurl.com/7c2avn3
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 438 2012-01-05 11:53:53 <CIA-100> bitcoin: p2k * r61ddb2f4e1d8 ecoinpool/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Smaller Improvements http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/w/ecoinpool.git/commitdiff/61ddb2f4e1d87f603b594a78867fc912bf3ffd07
 439 2012-01-05 12:04:00 <CIA-100> bitcoin: p2k * re925e9204cb4 ecoinpool/ (.gitignore README.md): Smaller Improvements http://tinyurl.com/7wbvwcr
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 464 2012-01-05 13:41:12 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Gavin Andresen master * r7486c64 / src/serialize.h : Merge pull request #740 from TheBlueMatt/perf ... https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/7486c64dd8436febbe59e82dbb875e83ad6b5194
 465 2012-01-05 13:41:13 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Matt Corallo master * rf7a9a11 / src/serialize.h : Fix horrific performance found by gmaxwell. - http://git.io/YCoqwg https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/f7a9a11391b18e8d18fce4482a4fcb6a7d6c9796
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 478 2012-01-05 14:19:47 <scorpius_> the links at the bottom of this page are broken. can someone fix these? http://www.weusecoins.com/mining-guide.php
 479 2012-01-05 14:20:02 <scorpius_> links to github
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 482 2012-01-05 14:28:09 <da2ce7> 2!~da2ce7@gateway/tor-sasl/da2ce7|It would be great to maintain patches for the changes listed in: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Hardfork_Wishlist
 483 2012-01-05 14:28:38 <da2ce7> 2!~da2ce7@gateway/tor-sasl/da2ce7|and have development chanins to test them.
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 527 2012-01-05 16:30:33 <JImmy06> i just read a log where someone was going on about centos and jansson lib
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 547 2012-01-05 17:04:39 <ryannathans> my client won't download any more blocks
 548 2012-01-05 17:04:55 <ryannathans> 5.0.1
 549 2012-01-05 17:05:15 <ryannathans> stuck on 160504
 550 2012-01-05 17:07:15 <pierre`> natural selection
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 552 2012-01-05 17:08:27 <sipa> ryannathans: tried restarting?
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 554 2012-01-05 17:08:58 <ryannathans> sipa: many times
 555 2012-01-05 17:09:19 <ryannathans> it's been like this for days
 556 2012-01-05 17:09:24 <ryannathans> 8 connections to btc network
 557 2012-01-05 17:09:29 <ryannathans> sorry
 558 2012-01-05 17:09:30 <sipa> has your system crashed while downloading?
 559 2012-01-05 17:09:33 <ryannathans> 76 connections to btc network
 560 2012-01-05 17:09:35 <ryannathans> sipa: no
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 565 2012-01-05 17:13:50 <luke-jr> ryannathans: OS?
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 569 2012-01-05 17:17:18 <ryannathans> luke-jr: windows 7 pro 64bit
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 571 2012-01-05 17:17:37 <luke-jr> ryannathans: you tried restarting the client?
 572 2012-01-05 17:17:47 <ryannathans> luke-jr: over a period of 2 days
 573 2012-01-05 17:17:47 <ryannathans> yes
 574 2012-01-05 17:17:54 <ryannathans> computer and client many times
 575 2012-01-05 17:19:53 <luke-jr> please shutdown the client entirely, reboot the computer (be sure it doesn't auto-start after rebooting!), ZIP up your bitcoin data directory (minus wallet.dat), and post it on a GitHub Issue
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 578 2012-01-05 17:23:50 <ryannathans> luke-jr: roger that.
 579 2012-01-05 17:24:43 <ryannathans> luke-jr: err you mean the %appdata% one?
 580 2012-01-05 17:24:48 <luke-jr> probably
 581 2012-01-05 17:24:52 <luke-jr> the directory with wallet.dat
 582 2012-01-05 17:24:59 <luke-jr> just don't include wallet.dat in the zip
 583 2012-01-05 17:25:23 <ryannathans> these blk0001.dat and blkindex.dat better bloody compress a heap
 584 2012-01-05 17:26:39 <da2ce7> ryannathans: about 30% rite from memoroy?
 585 2012-01-05 17:27:13 <ryannathans> depends what i compress them with ;D
 586 2012-01-05 17:28:53 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Matt Corallo 0.4.x * r99e9601e805c bitcoind-stable/src/serialize.h: Fix horrific performance found by gmaxwell. http://tinyurl.com/6uv7zyr
 587 2012-01-05 17:30:48 <luke-jr> ryannathans: just not RAR
 588 2012-01-05 17:31:20 <ryannathans> I hate rar
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 598 2012-01-05 17:48:09 <ryannathans> 715 MB, really?
 599 2012-01-05 17:48:12 <ryannathans> 90kb/s up
 600 2012-01-05 17:48:33 <ryannathans> so that's...
 601 2012-01-05 17:48:50 <ryannathans> 2 1/2 hours
 602 2012-01-05 17:49:08 <ryannathans> i can't upload now, low on bandwidth
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 604 2012-01-05 17:52:03 <gmaxwell> If you can't handle running a bitcoin node, use a thin client.
 605 2012-01-05 17:52:35 <ryannathans> this client?
 606 2012-01-05 17:52:37 <ryannathans> thin*
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 610 2012-01-05 17:53:10 <gmaxwell> e.g. http://ecdsa.org/electrum/
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 613 2012-01-05 17:53:39 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: the topic is him uploading his .bitcoin for a bug report
 614 2012-01-05 17:53:54 <jeremias> does electrum support multiple addresses btw
 615 2012-01-05 17:54:02 <gmaxwell> oh. I'm sorry I missed the backscroll.
 616 2012-01-05 17:54:28 <luke-jr> jeremias: wtf?
 617 2012-01-05 17:55:16 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: did you get the debug log from him?
 618 2012-01-05 17:55:25 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: no
 619 2012-01-05 17:55:29 <luke-jr> that's part of .bitcoinj
 620 2012-01-05 17:55:31 <luke-jr> that's part of .bitcoin
 621 2012-01-05 17:55:40 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: it's probably a case of a bit error in an already validated block which prevents 160505 from confirming.
 622 2012-01-05 17:55:59 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: how is that possible?
 623 2012-01-05 17:56:29 <ryannathans> where do you want it uploaded
 624 2012-01-05 17:56:33 <gmaxwell> memory corruption / sata bus corruption / memory corruption in the integrated electronics on the hdd.
 625 2012-01-05 17:56:46 <luke-jr> ryannathans: see if GitHub takes it >:D
 626 2012-01-05 17:56:48 <ryannathans> gmaxwell: would be the first time..
 627 2012-01-05 17:57:02 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: there was another case of a bit error in a local node's copy of the chain reported on the forums once.
 628 2012-01-05 17:57:06 <gmaxwell> ryannathans: first time?
 629 2012-01-05 17:57:10 <ryannathans> luke-jr: yes
 630 2012-01-05 17:57:36 <gmaxwell> ryannathans: your system could be creating errors for one in a million bits and you wouldn't tend to notice.
 631 2012-01-05 17:57:37 <ryannathans> gmaxwell: ?
 632 2012-01-05 17:58:18 <gmaxwell> But bitcoin notices because it validates everything.
 633 2012-01-05 17:58:38 <gmaxwell> Unfortunately it doesn't recover well if something already validated becomes corrupted after the fact.
 634 2012-01-05 17:58:39 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: is there an easy way to test without him uploading it? :P
 635 2012-01-05 17:58:49 <gmaxwell> see what the debug log says.
 636 2012-01-05 17:59:01 <ryannathans> here? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues
 637 2012-01-05 17:59:06 <gmaxwell> If it says a block we _know_ is good (based on the hash) isn't validating then that must be the problem.
 638 2012-01-05 17:59:29 <ryannathans> put it this way, i have more than 1TB of games, none of those have anything wrong, all the hashes are good as gold
 639 2012-01-05 17:59:36 <ryannathans> or ever had anything wrong
 640 2012-01-05 17:59:37 <luke-jr> ryannathans: yes; post the debug.log first if it's too big to upload right away
 641 2012-01-05 17:59:45 <ryannathans> kay, on that page linked?
 642 2012-01-05 18:00:04 <luke-jr> yeah
 643 2012-01-05 18:00:23 <gmaxwell> ryannathans: so? bitflips happen, even on perfectly reliable hardware.
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 647 2012-01-05 18:05:28 <ryannathans> do i upload this crap after or while i submit the issue
 648 2012-01-05 18:06:11 <luke-jr> dunno
 649 2012-01-05 18:06:17 <luke-jr> never used GitHub issues
 650 2012-01-05 18:06:19 <luke-jr> :D
 651 2012-01-05 18:06:31 <ryannathans> i'll find out, xD
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 653 2012-01-05 18:07:51 <ryannathans> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/745
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 655 2012-01-05 18:09:12 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: ryannathans opened issue 745 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/745>
 656 2012-01-05 18:09:27 <ryannathans> hehe
 657 2012-01-05 18:12:07 <luke-jr> ryannathans: your block 152704 is probably corrupt
 658 2012-01-05 18:12:17 <luke-jr> and/or the index?
 659 2012-01-05 18:12:34 <luke-jr> try renaming blkindex to something else
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 661 2012-01-05 18:13:24 <ryannathans> what'll it be doing now?
 662 2012-01-05 18:13:45 <ryannathans> downloading all teh blocks again?
 663 2012-01-05 18:14:06 <luke-jr> hopefully just reindexing
 664 2012-01-05 18:14:10 <luke-jr> no idea tho
 665 2012-01-05 18:14:26 <gmaxwell> oh it won't reindex. you shouldn't just delete the index or you'll waste a lot of space.
 666 2012-01-05 18:14:29 <ryannathans> it says it's downloading blocks 0 to 160764
 667 2012-01-05 18:14:34 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: blah
 668 2012-01-05 18:14:38 <gmaxwell> delete the index and the blocks
 669 2012-01-05 18:15:07 * luke-jr votes for checksumming the index somehow and remaking it if it's detected corrupt
 670 2012-01-05 18:15:48 <gmaxwell> key lines are:
 671 2012-01-05 18:15:49 <gmaxwell> received block 0000000000000c0858f9
 672 2012-01-05 18:15:49 <gmaxwell> ERROR: ConnectInputs() : 45b6e0eb0e prev tx 3fa4823dbd index entry not found
 673 2012-01-05 18:15:52 <gmaxwell> InvalidChainFound: invalid block=0000000000000c0858f9  height=160505  work=443392239434410037
 674 2012-01-05 18:16:07 <ryannathans> i don't see how this kills everything
 675 2012-01-05 18:16:13 <ryannathans> shouldn't it just redownload the block
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 677 2012-01-05 18:16:37 <gmaxwell> 160505 isn't corrupt, some prior block you already validated is.
 678 2012-01-05 18:16:50 <ryannathans> how the f did it validate?
 679 2012-01-05 18:16:57 <gmaxwell> it wasn't corrupt when it validated.
 680 2012-01-05 18:17:35 <gmaxwell> it's block 152704 thats bad.
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 682 2012-01-05 18:17:44 <gmaxwell> oh luke said that
 683 2012-01-05 18:18:07 <gmaxwell> Yea, it can't tell that its bad, it can just tell that it has never seen a transaction that block 160505 is spending.
 684 2012-01-05 18:18:09 <ryannathans> 15% re downloaded
 685 2012-01-05 18:18:29 <Cryo> what makes fetching current blocks so slow?
 686 2012-01-05 18:18:42 <luke-jr> Cryo: mlock
 687 2012-01-05 18:18:50 <gmaxwell> Cryo: a number of things, including a bug I just found which was fixed today.
 688 2012-01-05 18:18:58 <Cryo> is it the number of connections to the network?
 689 2012-01-05 18:19:01 * luke-jr ponders releasing 0.4.3, 0.5.0.3, and 0.5.2 with that fix just to get it out there
 690 2012-01-05 18:19:07 <gmaxwell> No. It has nothing to do with the network.
 691 2012-01-05 18:19:20 <Cryo> ok, just mlock? weird.
 692 2012-01-05 18:19:27 <ryannathans> who owns bitcoin.org
 693 2012-01-05 18:19:27 <luke-jr> Cryo: turns out mlock is VERY slow
 694 2012-01-05 18:19:35 <luke-jr> sirius
 695 2012-01-05 18:19:39 <luke-jr> tcatm admins it
 696 2012-01-05 18:19:43 <gmaxwell> Not just mlock, there are other things that make it slow.
 697 2012-01-05 18:19:53 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: mlock made a big difference tho :P
 698 2012-01-05 18:19:54 <gmaxwell> But mlock was easily fixed once we realized it.
 699 2012-01-05 18:19:58 <gmaxwell> and that.
 700 2012-01-05 18:20:11 <gmaxwell> Cryo: http://people.xiph.org/~greg/bitcoin-sync.png
 701 2012-01-05 18:20:53 <gmaxwell> (though thats on a quite fast system, it won't be that fast for most people, at least not until some other things are improved)
 702 2012-01-05 18:20:53 <Cryo> awesome
 703 2012-01-05 18:21:21 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: think I should tag stable versions early, to get this fix out there?
 704 2012-01-05 18:21:24 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: did you pull the recent deadlock fixes into stable too?
 705 2012-01-05 18:21:31 <ryannathans> gmaxwell: I don't understand this graph
 706 2012-01-05 18:21:47 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: yes
 707 2012-01-05 18:21:49 <cjdelisle> wow that's pretty awesome, congrats
 708 2012-01-05 18:21:56 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: also the orphans-fill-up-memory fix
 709 2012-01-05 18:22:00 <gmaxwell> ryannathans: X is the number of seconds after the node started fetching blocks. Y is how many blocks it has fetched.
 710 2012-01-05 18:22:30 <gmaxwell> ryannathans: with the fix it finishes the whole chain download in about 1780 seconds. Without the fix it would take many hours.
 711 2012-01-05 18:22:40 <ryannathans> ocrap
 712 2012-01-05 18:22:48 <ryannathans> the colours did my head in, i'm colour blind
 713 2012-01-05 18:22:57 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: think I should consider the "About Qt" menu item to be a fix for 0.5.x?
 714 2012-01-05 18:23:00 <ryannathans> i thought 'no mlock' was at the bottom
 715 2012-01-05 18:23:13 <gavinandresen> gmaxwell: very nice detective work, by the way-- I made an effort to find the slowness a couple months ago and gave up.
 716 2012-01-05 18:23:24 <gmaxwell> ryannathans: oh wow, your colorblinedness is bad enough that you can't distinguish that?
 717 2012-01-05 18:23:33 <ryannathans> yup
 718 2012-01-05 18:23:37 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: your thoughts on 'About Qt' and early stable releases? :P
 719 2012-01-05 18:23:49 <luke-jr> I should have pokes wumpus about 'About Qt' the other night
 720 2012-01-05 18:23:56 <luke-jr> he's almost never here :<
 721 2012-01-05 18:23:59 <gmaxwell> gavinandresen: yea, it was .. unusually hard. I think at lot of the mlock slowness comes from constantly trashing the TLB, so it didn't show up on most profiling tools.
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 723 2012-01-05 18:24:10 <gavinandresen> early stable releases:  seems like a 0.5.2 is a good idea, as long as somebody else volunteers to spearhead the release process.
 724 2012-01-05 18:24:12 <Cryo> mmm wumpus
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 728 2012-01-05 18:24:35 <ryannathans> 37% synced
 729 2012-01-05 18:24:41 <gavinandresen> (I'd be happy to build and gitian-sign a 0.5.2)
 730 2012-01-05 18:24:42 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: BlueMatt knows what to do for that, right?
 731 2012-01-05 18:24:48 <ryannathans> all this for 12 btc.
 732 2012-01-05 18:24:50 <ryannathans> lol.
 733 2012-01-05 18:24:59 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: it should be documented pretty well in doc/release_process.txt
 734 2012-01-05 18:25:20 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: I'd be happy to do a mac build, too.
 735 2012-01-05 18:25:40 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: would you build 0.4.3 as well? ;)
 736 2012-01-05 18:25:46 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: nope
 737 2012-01-05 18:25:49 <luke-jr> aww
 738 2012-01-05 18:25:56 <luke-jr> oh well, 0.4.x users can stick to git :p
 739 2012-01-05 18:26:04 <gavinandresen> gotta draw the line somewhere, I've got lots to do
 740 2012-01-05 18:26:19 <Cryo> why isn't there a buildbot? :)
 741 2012-01-05 18:26:25 * luke-jr didn't realize gitian builds were interactive/time consuming :o
 742 2012-01-05 18:26:44 <luke-jr> Cryo: there is, but it doesn't do releases for some reason
 743 2012-01-05 18:26:52 <ryannathans> current block number?
 744 2012-01-05 18:27:01 <luke-jr> would be nice to upload sources and get it automatically built
 745 2012-01-05 18:27:02 <luke-jr> ;;bc,block
 746 2012-01-05 18:27:03 <gribble> Error: "bc,block" is not a valid command.
 747 2012-01-05 18:27:04 <luke-jr> ;;bc,blocks
 748 2012-01-05 18:27:04 <gribble> 160764
 749 2012-01-05 18:27:19 <luke-jr> then I could even make next-test builds
 750 2012-01-05 18:27:21 <luke-jr> :p
 751 2012-01-05 18:27:40 <luke-jr> I'll wait until I see BlueMatt and let him decide
 752 2012-01-05 18:28:27 <ryannathans> the new bitcoin gui is filth, it'd be so much better if it wasn't so slow
 753 2012-01-05 18:28:42 <gmaxwell> The gui is slow?
 754 2012-01-05 18:28:51 <ryannathans> the new one
 755 2012-01-05 18:28:55 <ryannathans> qt
 756 2012-01-05 18:28:59 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: if you want to preemptively build 0.5.2 assuming BlueMatt is OK with it, let me know and I'll push the latest fixes to the 0.5.x branch
 757 2012-01-05 18:29:10 <Cryo> qt beats java
 758 2012-01-05 18:29:11 <luke-jr> ryannathans: are you volunteering to maintain wxBitcoin?
 759 2012-01-05 18:29:22 <ryannathans> what's wxBitcoin
 760 2012-01-05 18:29:26 <luke-jr> ryannathans: the old client
 761 2012-01-05 18:29:43 * ryannathans runs and hides
 762 2012-01-05 18:29:54 <luke-jr> exactly.
 763 2012-01-05 18:29:59 <luke-jr> Nobody wants to maintain that crap.
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 765 2012-01-05 18:30:10 <ryannathans> I dislike nokia
 766 2012-01-05 18:30:19 <luke-jr> me too, but Qt predates Nokia.
 767 2012-01-05 18:30:25 <da2ce7> ok I'm off cya guys
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 769 2012-01-05 18:30:30 <gmaxwell> ryannathans: and please be more polite with your criticisms, the people who worked very hard on it are here— and many people like it a lot. (and they're actually maintain it, no one wnats to maintain the old gui). AFAIK, you're not paying for any of this development work, so while constructive criticism is helpful— the overtly negative language is discouraging and not appropriate.
 770 2012-01-05 18:30:47 <ryannathans> gmaxwell: I like the new gui
 771 2012-01-05 18:30:53 <ryannathans> gmaxwell: if it was faster it would be sicko
 772 2012-01-05 18:30:57 <Cryo> that was the most polite stfu I've ever seen. bravo.
 773 2012-01-05 18:30:59 <gavinandresen> frickin frackin binary encodings....   so I wrote the addmultisigaddress RPC command to take any of three public key encodings because I couldn't make up my mind:  bas58 hash-of-address (if key is in your wallet), full public key encoded with base58, and full public key encoded with hex.
 774 2012-01-05 18:31:05 * luke-jr wonders if Bitcoin-Qt behaves differntly on Windows
 775 2012-01-05 18:31:08 <gavinandresen> ... and now I'm regretting it.
 776 2012-01-05 18:31:18 <gmaxwell> ryannathans: Whats slow about it?
 777 2012-01-05 18:31:30 <ryannathans> where to start.
 778 2012-01-05 18:31:45 <gmaxwell> ryannathans: with whatever you find most annoying / disruptive.
 779 2012-01-05 18:31:56 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: Spesmilo is significantly slower on Windows than Linux; I assumed it was a Python threading issue, but maybe it's Qt O.o
 780 2012-01-05 18:32:07 <ryannathans> if i right click the task bar icon
 781 2012-01-05 18:32:13 <ryannathans> then click elsewhere, eg another window
 782 2012-01-05 18:32:22 <luke-jr> ryannathans: instant for me
 783 2012-01-05 18:32:23 <ryannathans> it takes up to 10 seconds to close
 784 2012-01-05 18:32:33 <gmaxwell> 10 seconds? 0_o
 785 2012-01-05 18:32:47 <ryannathans> the tray menu
 786 2012-01-05 18:32:48 <gmaxwell> what thread does that crazy windows registry rng stuff run in?
 787 2012-01-05 18:33:00 <ryannathans> ?
 788 2012-01-05 18:33:08 <gmaxwell> That wasn't directed to you, obviously.
 789 2012-01-05 18:33:27 <luke-jr> ryannathans: is it just Bitcoin-Qt, or are other Qt apps slow too?
 790 2012-01-05 18:33:36 <ryannathans> just bitcoin-qt
 791 2012-01-05 18:33:39 <ryannathans> mumble is fine
 792 2012-01-05 18:33:58 <luke-jr> BTW
 793 2012-01-05 18:34:14 <luke-jr> ButterFlyLabs lost a BitForce purchase via Bitcoin x.x
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 795 2012-01-05 18:34:27 <plato> 10:29 < plato> has there been any discussion of using torrents to distribute old blocks?
 796 2012-01-05 18:34:34 <luke-jr> hmm, maybe I wasn't supposed to tell people about that
 797 2012-01-05 18:34:56 <luke-jr> plato: that would be retardedly redundant.
 798 2012-01-05 18:35:19 <ryannathans> i wouldn't be here still on 40%
 799 2012-01-05 18:35:26 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: oh you canceled yours?
 800 2012-01-05 18:35:48 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: no
 801 2012-01-05 18:35:53 <plato> luke-jr: thanks
 802 2012-01-05 18:36:13 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: the guy 'never paid', then weeks later decided to pay, but BFL no longer has the wallet he paid to
 803 2012-01-05 18:36:20 <gmaxwell> plato: no, there doesn't appear to be any need. We already have a p2p network which should be better for block distribution than torrent.
 804 2012-01-05 18:36:32 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: doh!
 805 2012-01-05 18:36:32 <ryannathans>  should
 806 2012-01-05 18:36:33 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: I'm trying to convince them to give me raw access to the HD so I can do a scam for privkeys
 807 2012-01-05 18:36:46 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: would be a good idea.
 808 2012-01-05 18:37:09 <gmaxwell> ryannathans: The network part is just fine. The slow part of fetching blocks is the validation, not the transfer.
 809 2012-01-05 18:37:15 <luke-jr> also, when I tested their stuff a few weeks ago, it was mining to a local wallet
 810 2012-01-05 18:37:21 <luke-jr> they didn't bother to save that either…
 811 2012-01-05 18:37:23 <ryannathans> socket recv error 10054
 812 2012-01-05 18:37:27 <ryannathans> wtf
 813 2012-01-05 18:37:34 <b4epoche> whoa?  Butterfly takes bitcoin?
 814 2012-01-05 18:37:36 <luke-jr> it was only 0.06 BTC tho
 815 2012-01-05 18:37:38 <luke-jr> b4epoche: yes
 816 2012-01-05 18:37:46 <Joric> where i may get transaction hash in bitcointools? https://github.com/gavinandresen/bitcointools/blob/master/deserialize.py guess it's somewhere in the stream? in parse_Transaction? (line 79)
 817 2012-01-05 18:37:56 <b4epoche> what conversion rate do they use?
 818 2012-01-05 18:37:58 <gmaxwell> ryannathans: Where are you getting that?
 819 2012-01-05 18:38:02 <luke-jr> b4epoche: MtGox
 820 2012-01-05 18:38:06 <ryannathans> debug.log, spammed
 821 2012-01-05 18:38:20 <ryannathans> it's stopped at 40%
 822 2012-01-05 18:39:07 <ryannathans> i'm going to sleep
 823 2012-01-05 18:39:12 <b4epoche> interesting.  I'm surprised a 'real' business selling hardware is accepting bitcoin.
 824 2012-01-05 18:39:13 <gmaxwell> ryannathans: mouseover and get the count, is it actually stopped are just slow?
 825 2012-01-05 18:39:14 <ryannathans> night, i'll be back tomorrow maybe
 826 2012-01-05 18:39:36 <ryannathans> gmaxwell: in client all appears well
 827 2012-01-05 18:39:45 <ryannathans> in debug.log, last 100 lines are that error
 828 2012-01-05 18:39:57 <gmaxwell> That might be harmless.
 829 2012-01-05 18:40:09 <ryannathans> o well, i'll let this dl overnight
 830 2012-01-05 18:40:11 <ryannathans> night.
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 832 2012-01-05 18:40:31 <gmaxwell> K. Cya.
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 835 2012-01-05 18:41:06 <gmaxwell> Apparently crud like "peerblock" can cause that (according to random forum posts)
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 853 2012-01-05 19:43:05 <sadsadsa> mhm
 854 2012-01-05 19:43:57 <Joric> gavinandresen, gmaxwell where i may get transaction hash? i was trying to read raw transaction data and sha256 it but it's different
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 857 2012-01-05 19:54:31 <lianj> Joric: two times sha256
 858 2012-01-05 19:54:55 <ciscoftw> sup with the #bitcoind chan?
 859 2012-01-05 19:56:12 <Joric> lianj, yeah found an explanation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37532.0
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 885 2012-01-05 20:52:10 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Steve Brecher * r52d134ce2e4a cgminer/main.c: Add percent signs to reject ratio outputs http://tinyurl.com/82v5haf
 886 2012-01-05 20:52:12 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * rad54c0161a70 cgminer/main.c: Merge pull request #67 from Proofer/RejectRatioPercentSigns http://tinyurl.com/77hulrb
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 894 2012-01-05 21:08:52 <CIA-100> libbitcoin: Kamil Domanski * rd65c930e7889 /include/bitcoin/types.hpp: struct node_address got lost in merger http://tinyurl.com/7boagz2
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 930 2012-01-05 22:12:00 * helo tries to imagine a distributed blockchain proof-of-work system where the work can only be done by humans
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 933 2012-01-05 22:15:07 <tcatm> helo: creating new humans. could also easily be verified using automated genetic tests
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 938 2012-01-05 22:21:52 <Eliel> I think there are enough babies born in the world that it might work from that perspective :P
 939 2012-01-05 22:22:16 <Eliel> no idea how to make that secure though :D
 940 2012-01-05 22:23:19 <Eliel> helo: you'd need something that's relatively easily done by a human but easy and fast to verify with a computer. I'm doubtful if something like that exists
 941 2012-01-05 22:24:14 <tcatm> it would be even better if humans could verify it easily, too
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 943 2012-01-05 22:24:33 <makomk> Eliel: CAPTCHAs would be, except they're fundamentally not decentralized in the way Bitcoin requires
 944 2012-01-05 22:24:51 <helo> turing test :)
 945 2012-01-05 22:25:59 <Backburn2> spoken word (like navajo) recorded
 946 2012-01-05 22:26:27 <tcatm> easy to duplicate
 947 2012-01-05 22:26:43 <Backburn2> worked in WWII :)
 948 2012-01-05 22:27:11 <helo> last block's hash embedded in video recording?
 949 2012-01-05 22:27:30 <helo> no lol
 950 2012-01-05 22:28:07 <tcatm> that might work. we could even re-use our GPUs for realistic rendering of fake videos :)
 951 2012-01-05 22:28:15 <Backburn2> lol
 952 2012-01-05 22:33:55 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * r17e8d60b5f36 cgminer/main.c: Adjust utility width to be constant maximum as well. http://tinyurl.com/7eeczwn
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 955 2012-01-05 22:43:08 <helo> ahh, last block recited by both participants in unison :)
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 958 2012-01-05 22:43:52 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Kano * r7187dfa04910 cgminer/main.c: If api-description is specified, save it when writing the config file http://tinyurl.com/6lnucl7
 959 2012-01-05 22:43:53 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * r95522262eddd cgminer/main.c: Merge pull request #66 from kanoi/master http://tinyurl.com/7sjjgla
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 962 2012-01-05 22:45:26 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: hey
 963 2012-01-05 22:45:41 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: we were talking about 0.5.2 earlier: can you do the release stuff for it?
 964 2012-01-05 22:45:50 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: Gavin said he can do one of the gitian builds
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 982 2012-01-05 23:17:47 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: oops, did I still forget to do that?
 983 2012-01-05 23:17:51 <BlueMatt> will do now...
 984 2012-01-05 23:17:58 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: no, I mean a new release ;P
 985 2012-01-05 23:18:03 <luke-jr> 0.5.2
 986 2012-01-05 23:18:12 <BlueMatt> oh, well whatever, Ill go build it
 987 2012-01-05 23:18:33 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: whole release process?
 988 2012-01-05 23:18:43 <BlueMatt> what do you want me to do?
 989 2012-01-05 23:18:55 <luke-jr> hmm, not sure, lemme review it
 990 2012-01-05 23:19:14 <luke-jr> I guess it's build + gitian stuff
 991 2012-01-05 23:19:19 <luke-jr> not sure who can update bitcoin.org
 992 2012-01-05 23:19:35 <BlueMatt> tcatm handles that usually
 993 2012-01-05 23:20:49 <tcatm> yep. either make a pull request or send me a signed email
 994 2012-01-05 23:21:05 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: is there no 0.5.2 tag?
 995 2012-01-05 23:21:16 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: making tags now
 996 2012-01-05 23:21:21 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: beginning with v0.4.3rc1
 997 2012-01-05 23:21:45 <BlueMatt> wait, are these rcs or stables?
 998 2012-01-05 23:22:30 <luke-jr> let's do a single RC just in case
 999 2012-01-05 23:22:34 <luke-jr> stable RC
1000 2012-01-05 23:22:46 <BlueMatt> ok, can you push those now, I have to go, but Ill start a build
1001 2012-01-05 23:22:47 <luke-jr> just in case gmaxwell's optimization has some bad effect
1002 2012-01-05 23:23:00 <luke-jr> v0.4.3rc1 and v0.5.0.3rc1 done
1003 2012-01-05 23:23:05 <luke-jr> v0.5.2rc1 soon
1004 2012-01-05 23:23:29 <BlueMatt> wait, you want me to build for 3 releases?
1005 2012-01-05 23:23:55 <luke-jr> v0.5.2rc1 is probably the important one
1006 2012-01-05 23:24:05 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr 0.5.x * r7de7913abdba bitcoind-stable/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Merge branch '0.5.0.x' into 0.5.x http://tinyurl.com/7j5tq8q
1007 2012-01-05 23:24:29 <luke-jr> v0.5.2rc1 tagged & pushed
1008 2012-01-05 23:25:26 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: ^
1009 2012-01-05 23:25:52 <gmaxwell> I don't expect bad effects, but we might get an "OH WAIT FIX THIS TOO" if we beat on the drum some for people to try it.
1010 2012-01-05 23:26:32 <luke-jr> worst case we rename the file and put it on the site in a few days
1011 2012-01-05 23:28:30 <gmaxwell> Sounds like a plan to me.
1012 2012-01-05 23:30:43 <Joric> is there anything that could export blocks from berkeley db to json (as on blockexplorer)?
1013 2012-01-05 23:31:21 <sipa1024> Joric: getblock was merged for 0.6
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1015 2012-01-05 23:32:03 <Joric> sipa1024, is it possible to getblock via http?
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1017 2012-01-05 23:33:14 <Joric> apparently not
1018 2012-01-05 23:33:19 <sipa> how do you mean?
1019 2012-01-05 23:33:19 <luke-jr> Joric: all JSON-RPC is HTTP
1020 2012-01-05 23:34:18 <Joric> oh okay then
1021 2012-01-05 23:35:32 <sipa> Joric: not sure i understood your question
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1023 2012-01-05 23:36:08 <graingert> do you mean via a get request
1024 2012-01-05 23:36:21 <Joric> yes i need http request instead of sockets
1025 2012-01-05 23:36:29 <luke-jr> does anyone have an OpenCL-enabled system I can SSH into to test some code?
1026 2012-01-05 23:36:38 <sipa> Joric: http uses sockets...
1027 2012-01-05 23:36:42 <luke-jr> Joric: JSON-RPC is HTTP POST
1028 2012-01-05 23:41:49 <TD> gavinandresen: hiya. what's the latest version of the op_eval replacement proposal?
1029 2012-01-05 23:41:59 <TD> i had to stop following it for a few days and now i'm not sure what the current thinking is
1030 2012-01-05 23:42:08 <gavinandresen> TD: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0016
1031 2012-01-05 23:42:49 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: v0.5.2rc1 tagged, if you wanted to build it
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1037 2012-01-05 23:44:38 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: I may have some time tomorrow to start builds, I'm about to quit for today.
1038 2012-01-05 23:46:29 <TD> gavinandresen: should OP_EQUAL be OP_EQUALVERIFY in these examples?
1039 2012-01-05 23:46:44 <gavinandresen> Nope, the script has to leave a true value on the stack
1040 2012-01-05 23:47:16 <TD> right, sorry
1041 2012-01-05 23:47:18 <gavinandresen> ... although I suppose it could be EQUALVERIFY, the script hash will always be true.....
1042 2012-01-05 23:47:36 <gavinandresen> or, rather, the signature(s)
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1044 2012-01-05 23:48:52 <gavinandresen> Implementation that will probably be a pull request tomorrow is here:  https://github.com/gavinandresen/bitcoin-git/tree/pay_to_script_hash
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1047 2012-01-05 23:50:30 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: ok, 0.5.2rc1 building
1048 2012-01-05 23:50:32 <gavinandresen> Lots of eyeballs on the logic in VerifyScript very welcome:  https://github.com/gavinandresen/bitcoin-git/blob/pay_to_script_hash/src/script.cpp#L1451
1049 2012-01-05 23:51:59 <graingert> has anyone proved Bitcoin yet?
1050 2012-01-05 23:52:32 <BlueMatt> proved as in?
1051 2012-01-05 23:52:48 <graingert> Event-B formal methods etc
1052 2012-01-05 23:53:38 <BlueMatt> dont think so
1053 2012-01-05 23:53:54 <CIA-100> bitcoin: p2k * r43babbfd6d62 ecoinpool/apps/ecoinpool_mysql_replicator/src/ (ecoinpool_mysql_replicator_sup.erl mycouch_replicator.erl): Improved Replicator http://tinyurl.com/72u4rqo
1054 2012-01-05 23:53:55 <CIA-100> bitcoin: p2k * r63f872c98ea2 ecoinpool/apps/ecoinpool_mysql_replicator/src/mycouch_replicator.erl: Fixed a typo http://tinyurl.com/7om3h4b
1055 2012-01-05 23:54:43 <TD> has anyone proved a program of any interesting complexity, ever?
1056 2012-01-05 23:55:37 <graingert> TD: an entire operating system was proved by the russians
1057 2012-01-05 23:55:58 <TD> what language was it written in?
1058 2012-01-05 23:56:00 <luke-jr> does it do anything beyond calculator? P:P
1059 2012-01-05 23:56:09 <graingert> bitcoin sounds like the sort of thing that might actually be worth proving, if posible
1060 2012-01-05 23:56:12 <graingert> possible*
1061 2012-01-05 23:56:19 <graingert> brb
1062 2012-01-05 23:57:56 <luke-jr> I started writing a MIPS emulator that followed every possible branch…
1063 2012-01-05 23:58:01 <luke-jr> anyone want to finish it? :P
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1065 2012-01-05 23:58:45 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr * r5bbfbd8547be gentoo/dev-python/bitcoinrpc/ (Manifest bitcoinrpc-9999.ebuild): dev-python/bitcoinrpc-9999: enable Python3 support http://tinyurl.com/6q5m9qq
1066 2012-01-05 23:58:47 <CIA-100> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr * r347c488a33da gentoo/net-p2p/ (4 files in 2 dirs): net-p2p/bitcoin{-qt,d}: bump to 0.5.2_rc1 http://tinyurl.com/728dny2
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1068 2012-01-05 23:59:55 <sipa> when did the exchange rate get to $7 again? :o