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 11 2012-03-31 00:23:05 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: jondoh opened issue 1015 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1015>
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103 2012-03-31 08:27:47 <Joric> i just noticed there were only three sells at all-time high, https://mtgox.com/code/data/getTrades.php?since=132267 totaled 1.627 BTC, maybe they earned some kind of prize
104 2012-03-31 08:28:58 <Joric> got that sorting all mtgox trades by price, 31.9099 ought to be the all-time-high
105 2012-03-31 08:31:28 <Blitzboom> this is bitcoin-dev
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138 2012-03-31 10:26:25 <gigavps> anyone seen this post this morning -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67634.msg828715#msg828715
139 2012-03-31 10:28:52 <Cory> Is there any reasonable explanation where the miner isn't malicious?
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141 2012-03-31 10:32:10 <gigavps> no idea, El seems to think they held the blocks until they had the longest chain and then published
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146 2012-03-31 10:44:55 <TuxBlackEdo> looks like a double spending attack to me IMO
147 2012-03-31 10:45:05 <TuxBlackEdo> this was the secret chain that got announced
148 2012-03-31 10:45:45 <lh77> grr
149 2012-03-31 10:47:03 <TuxBlackEdo> the timestamp is right on those blocks, they just got announced late
150 2012-03-31 10:47:29 <TuxBlackEdo> http://blockchain.info/orphaned-blocks
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156 2012-03-31 10:56:06 <gigavps> TuxBlackEdo: could this be a case of the botnet just not having sync'd clocks rather than malicious?
157 2012-03-31 11:00:33 <Cory> Seems unlikely based on El's account, where all 3 were announced at once.
158 2012-03-31 11:00:49 <Joric_> does bitcoin load DB_CONFIG in data directory? heard large cache could make loading up to 20 times faster
159 2012-03-31 11:00:57 <Joric_> e.g. ~/.bitcoin/DB_CONFIG: set_cachesize 0 104857600 1
160 2012-03-31 11:01:44 <lh77> :/
161 2012-03-31 11:02:49 <sipa> Joric_: yes, it reads DB_CONFIG
162 2012-03-31 11:03:03 <sipa> but i've not seen any spectacular improvements over 25 MiB cache
163 2012-03-31 11:03:15 <sipa> (which became the default in 0.6)
164 2012-03-31 11:03:33 <sipa> Joric_: 0.6 also adds -dbcache=N for that reason (N is in MiB)
165 2012-03-31 11:03:50 <Joric_> oh cool didn't hear about that earlier
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167 2012-03-31 11:04:21 <sipa> not everything makes it into the release notes :)
168 2012-03-31 11:04:53 <sipa> there's also -upgradewallet to switch to compressed pubkeys for new keys, and -checklevel=N to do more extensive blockchain database validation at startup
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184 2012-03-31 12:25:03 <finway> Seems MM are deliberately orphaning the chain ?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67634.msg828756#msg828756
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187 2012-03-31 12:27:01 <Joric> oh someone's already plotted the chart i'm dropping mine then
188 2012-03-31 12:28:44 <Joric> it looks quite bad imo, ~10-times more 1tx blocks after 03/05
189 2012-03-31 12:29:32 <finway> yeah
190 2012-03-31 12:30:28 <finway> deliberately orphaning the chain are more malicious than  making 1tx  blocks
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192 2012-03-31 12:32:26 <Joric> i guess doing so needs more power than in the network
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194 2012-03-31 12:33:09 <Joric> the net made 1 block they made 2
195 2012-03-31 12:34:45 <finway> Joric, i think you are right.
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211 2012-03-31 13:19:26 <abracadabra> *yawn*
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222 2012-03-31 13:41:15 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: sipa opened pull request 1018 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1018>
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224 2012-03-31 13:45:34 <sipa> ;;later tell BlueMatt poke me when you're here
225 2012-03-31 13:45:35 <gribble> The operation succeeded.
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230 2012-03-31 14:07:05 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: laanwj opened pull request 1019 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1019>
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298 2012-03-31 17:01:30 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: graingert opened issue 1020 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1020>
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301 2012-03-31 17:22:26 <Joric> whoa 0.6.0 https://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/bitcoin-0.6.0/
302 2012-03-31 17:23:39 <copumpkin> yep!
303 2012-03-31 17:23:48 <copumpkin> it seems to have a GUI option to sign messages with a key
304 2012-03-31 17:23:53 <copumpkin> but I couldn't find a way to verify signatures
305 2012-03-31 17:24:10 <t7> can i install 0.6 over .5*
306 2012-03-31 17:24:24 <t7> on winblows
307 2012-03-31 17:27:24 <Blitzboom> yes
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310 2012-03-31 17:31:04 <Joric> oh and there's a sign message gui
311 2012-03-31 17:32:10 <copumpkin> Joric: surely not
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334 2012-03-31 18:19:25 <minjin> is there a flowchart available for the current bitcoin protocol?
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347 2012-03-31 18:53:15 <t7> does it get easier to find a hash collision as the amount you hash gets larger?
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349 2012-03-31 18:58:24 <BTC_Bear> easier? No. Although, one less drop of water has been collected from Niagra Falls.
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355 2012-03-31 19:09:47 <t7> i mean the size of the thing you are hashing
356 2012-03-31 19:10:24 <gmaxwell> t7: it shouldn't, not if the hash is secure.
357 2012-03-31 19:10:44 <gmaxwell> (well, if the input is smaller than the output there may be no collission, but over that, no)
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359 2012-03-31 19:19:24 <kish> no it's not easier
360 2012-03-31 19:19:33 <kish> just takes more time
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363 2012-03-31 19:27:46 <[Tycho]> Are there any short-pubkey TXes in the blockchain ?
364 2012-03-31 19:29:21 <BlueMatt> sipa: pong
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366 2012-03-31 19:44:44 <jgarzik> [Tycho]: should be some in the testnet chain.  not sure about compressed pubkeys in the main chain
367 2012-03-31 19:45:34 <[Tycho]> Even in redeeming ?
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369 2012-03-31 19:48:19 <jgarzik> [Tycho]: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/10_Jan_2012
370 2012-03-31 19:48:36 <jgarzik> [Tycho]: 21:07 < sipa> there is compressed pubkey on mainnet
371 2012-03-31 19:49:51 <[Tycho]> Oh, why didn't he posted a link...
372 2012-03-31 19:51:03 <jgarzik> [Tycho]: it sounds like an unintended feature that came along for free via OpenSSL
373 2012-03-31 19:51:17 <Joric> i added compressed pubkeys support in pywallet
374 2012-03-31 19:51:26 <gmaxwell> jgarzik: It was. There are ones in mainnet.
375 2012-03-31 19:51:36 <gmaxwell> [Tycho]: How goes the sendmany deployment?
376 2012-03-31 19:51:38 <[Tycho]> I just wanted to see an example in BBE
377 2012-03-31 19:53:35 <gmaxwell> here is a testnet one http://blockexplorer.com/testnet/tx/48ce0ba13b087f3712cdc354db918436aeeca60596ac7c54572c8c1b9a8b5ba4
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380 2012-03-31 19:59:58 <Joric> i found 97 compressed pubkeys in the mainnet since block 170000
381 2012-03-31 20:00:27 <Joric> eg http://blockexplorer.com/rawtx/d84b37dd3f1073385ef729869e90fcb5d7e86feb0bc11614cace82637778037e
382 2012-03-31 20:00:29 <[Tycho]> gmaxwell: thanks
383 2012-03-31 20:00:43 <Joric> the last found one
384 2012-03-31 20:00:44 <Joric> http://blockexplorer.com/rawtx/c5246f8cee470002d6a83c2fdf9a71249494ecde88fec892d98bc22f2daaec38
385 2012-03-31 20:01:16 <[Tycho]> Wow, this is even better.
386 2012-03-31 20:02:08 <[Tycho]> Sadly my bitcoind doesn't supports compressed pubkeys, otherwise I would make my TXes even more compact :
387 2012-03-31 20:02:09 <[Tycho]> )
388 2012-03-31 20:02:40 <BlueMatt> how does your bitcoind not support compressed pubkeys?
389 2012-03-31 20:02:44 <Joric> here is a full tx list http://pastebin.com/NSXtJRJg
390 2012-03-31 20:02:47 <BlueMatt> oh, you mean for your txes...
391 2012-03-31 20:02:48 <BlueMatt> dur
392 2012-03-31 20:03:09 <[Tycho]> Why there is no OP_CHECKSIG there ?
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396 2012-03-31 20:04:09 <[Tycho]> Oh, it's not a pubkey, probably.
397 2012-03-31 20:04:30 <gmaxwell> Joric: there is no compressed pubkeys in your last link.
398 2012-03-31 20:06:10 <Joric> oops my bad i should recheck
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404 2012-03-31 20:10:54 <Joric> what's "scriptPubKey":"440797cbcfa7b2898525d6e597c7a1fc0df73bcd4bbf7256c898dc5620570d3f" ?  (last link)
405 2012-03-31 20:11:38 <Joric> it's 32 bytes long
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407 2012-03-31 20:12:07 <[Tycho]> Some p2pool stuff
408 2012-03-31 20:12:59 <Joric> i probably filtered those instead of compressed keys
409 2012-03-31 20:14:59 <Joric> allright then, here they are http://blockexplorer.com/rawtx/585c9f534d68fac2e0150ff04f6c93c1c3e1bd4a183b7cee1a5e2fa9435689a8
410 2012-03-31 20:15:09 <Joric> http://pastebin.com/NSXtJRJg 61 records
411 2012-03-31 20:15:16 <[Tycho]> Yes, this is it
412 2012-03-31 20:17:02 <[Tycho]> Is it possible to create a compressed pubkey from existing privkey ?
413 2012-03-31 20:18:18 <Joric> it depends
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415 2012-03-31 20:19:39 <Joric> if it contains uncompressed privkey, you have to compress it
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419 2012-03-31 20:22:26 <Joric> 'pubkey' is concatenated to 'privkey' it's either 65 bytes or 33 bytes
420 2012-03-31 20:22:40 <t7> can i tell someone how to decrypt something without telling them how to encrypt something?
421 2012-03-31 20:24:11 <Joric> uncompressed = chr(4) + 32-byte x + 32-byte y, uncompressed = chr(1 + (y & 1)) + 32-byte x
422 2012-03-31 20:24:36 <Joric> *uncompressed = chr(4) + 32-byte x + 32-byte y, compressed = chr(1 + (y & 1)) + 32-byte x
423 2012-03-31 20:25:26 <Joric> depends of the lib in openssl you just have to set point conversion via EC_KEY_set_conv_form
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435 2012-03-31 20:51:22 <cande> nfc...
436 2012-03-31 20:51:57 <cande> does anyone know how to transfere bitcoins via nfc ?
437 2012-03-31 20:53:59 <cande> is there any plan for supporting nfc with bitcoin-qt ?
438 2012-03-31 20:54:05 <[Tycho]> Hello, luke-jr.
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449 2012-03-31 21:10:33 <t7> shouldnt the topic be changed now?
450 2012-03-31 21:11:19 <BlueMatt> t7: there :)
451 2012-03-31 21:12:00 <gmaxwell> I was very confused because I ran /topic and saw the topic after BlueMatt changed it but before he said "there" ...  so I was left thinking, whats there to change??
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455 2012-03-31 21:41:10 <graingert> I am more confused than you
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460 2012-03-31 21:50:20 <gmaxwell> doublec: hey, I don't see p2sh flags in your coinbase. Is your pool about to die?
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465 2012-03-31 22:00:43 <denisx> is there no changelog for 0.6?
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470 2012-03-31 22:06:26 <kish> gmaxwell, i see you are still using a 1024 bit rsa key from 1999
471 2012-03-31 22:06:52 <conman> nice
472 2012-03-31 22:06:52 <gmaxwell> Indeed.
473 2012-03-31 22:07:10 <gmaxwell> I had an older key but lost the private part, alas.
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476 2012-03-31 22:07:33 <kish> i found it on my keyring
477 2012-03-31 22:11:35 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: du you maintain the ubuntu packages? You're listed as the owner here: https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin
478 2012-03-31 22:11:54 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: yea
479 2012-03-31 22:12:01 <BlueMatt> i pushed 0.6 earlier today
480 2012-03-31 22:12:07 <BlueMatt> (sorry it took so long)
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482 2012-03-31 22:17:09 <denisx> my 1234 bit rsa key is from 94
483 2012-03-31 22:17:43 <BlueMatt> heh, 1234
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488 2012-03-31 22:32:49 <doublec> gmaxwell: I'm p2sh enabled but don't publish in thecoinbase
489 2012-03-31 22:33:04 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: I'm mostly away for a bit.
490 2012-03-31 22:33:09 <gmaxwell> doublec: K.
491 2012-03-31 22:33:12 <doublec> gmaxwell: due to the fact that I didn't modify the merge mining code to add it to the coinbase
492 2012-03-31 22:33:35 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: be aware people using backports do not advertise either
493 2012-03-31 22:33:36 * gmaxwell removes bitparking from his eulogy.
494 2012-03-31 22:33:50 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: I suggest connecting to eulogy nodes and checking their versions ;)
495 2012-03-31 22:33:59 <[Tycho]> luke-jr: how do you fetch exchange data for your bot ? Do you want to include reports from our trading platform ?
496 2012-03-31 22:34:34 <[Tycho]> "luke-jr: gmaxwell: be aware people using backports do not advertise either" - why do you think so ? I do.
497 2012-03-31 22:35:06 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: #bitcoin-watch just uses bitcoincharts.com's feed
498 2012-03-31 22:35:10 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: right now the list I have of named pools without p2sh in their coinbase: Donate@Home, BTC Warp, Arsbitcoin, 50BTC, nmcbit, and Polmine.
499 2012-03-31 22:37:21 <[Tycho]> Cool, then it will be included automatically...
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508 2012-03-31 22:46:55 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: ☺
509 2012-03-31 22:47:01 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: you have an exchange now?
510 2012-03-31 22:47:08 <[Tycho]> Yes, we do.
511 2012-03-31 22:47:43 <[Tycho]> It's still under development, but real-money trading is already enabled for general public.
512 2012-03-31 22:47:51 <luke-jr> called?
513 2012-03-31 22:47:55 <[Tycho]> icbit.se
514 2012-03-31 22:48:02 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: Ars has been dead for months.
515 2012-03-31 22:48:13 <[Tycho]> We need more exchanges, decentralization FTW !
516 2012-03-31 22:48:18 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: solve blocks still.
517 2012-03-31 22:48:25 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: lol
518 2012-03-31 22:48:51 <gmaxwell> well.. for another hour at least.
519 2012-03-31 22:49:20 * luke-jr wonders if Ars can be tricked into testing BIP16 after Apr 1
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522 2012-03-31 22:50:23 <gmaxwell> My eulogy:
523 2012-03-31 22:50:24 <gmaxwell> My friends, we are gathered here today to morn the loss of Donate@Home, BTC Warp, Arsbitcoin, 50BTC, nmcbit, and Polmine.
524 2012-03-31 22:50:26 <gmaxwell> As a user of Bitcoin I have the honor to speak here today on behalf of the broader Bitcoin community.
525 2012-03-31 22:50:29 <gmaxwell> The tragic loss of these pools could have been prevented, if they paid any attention to the system that gave them life, a system they claimed to serve.
526 2012-03-31 22:50:32 <gmaxwell> But it was not so, and now they will soon fork from the longest chain and become orphaned.
527 2012-03-31 22:50:35 <gmaxwell> Their past blocks, however, will live on — remembered and celebrated by all nodes for eternity.
528 2012-03-31 22:50:38 <gmaxwell> So, now, for the last time as you mine your final blocks we bid you farewell rugged pools.
529 2012-03-31 22:50:58 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: hah
530 2012-03-31 22:50:58 <genjix> mining is a waste of time
531 2012-03-31 22:51:00 <BlueMatt> nice
532 2012-03-31 22:51:10 <[Tycho]> Is 50BTC dead already ?
533 2012-03-31 22:51:24 <[Tycho]> That's how they solved 25BTC problem...
534 2012-03-31 22:51:50 <[Tycho]> Wow, you were right, it's working :) <#bitcoin-watch> ljrbot: trade icbit:          0.001  BTC @    1.00          USD ==       1.86  TBC @    0.00065536    USD
535 2012-03-31 22:52:52 <gmaxwell> [Tycho]: well, they're not signaling p2sh support. So it's somewhat likely that tomorrow will be a very bad day for them.
536 2012-03-31 22:52:52 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: I don't think it's *that* tragic… :p
537 2012-03-31 22:53:28 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: only when people send fake BIP16s
538 2012-03-31 22:53:37 <luke-jr> and only until the BIP16 chain outruns it
539 2012-03-31 22:53:39 <[Tycho]> I think than Donate@Home and nmcbit are actually MM in blockchaininfo's table
540 2012-03-31 22:53:53 <luke-jr> MM != P2SH compliant
541 2012-03-31 22:54:12 <[Tycho]> Yes, that's why I'm expecting some blockchain fireworks
542 2012-03-31 22:54:41 <luke-jr> too bad it didn't eliminate all the pools with "BTC" in their name <.<
543 2012-03-31 22:54:52 <denisx> luke-jr: thanks ;)
544 2012-03-31 22:54:55 <gmaxwell> heh
545 2012-03-31 22:55:02 <luke-jr> denisx: well, pick a better name :P
546 2012-03-31 22:55:13 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: you know there will be some dick out there who makes bad p2sh txes and sends them around to all the pools that dont support it just to be a dick
547 2012-03-31 22:55:27 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: I was considering it just to do a test on someone else's dime.
548 2012-03-31 22:55:35 <BlueMatt> heh
549 2012-03-31 22:55:40 <[Tycho]> I have one P2SH TX, but now I realized that I can't redeem it in a wrong way because my nodes are already upgraded :(
550 2012-03-31 22:55:55 <gmaxwell> whats great(?) is that once such a txn is announced, they'll keep reinserting it as they get orphaned.
551 2012-03-31 22:56:02 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: any of the above-named pools will gladly let you try to redeem it
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553 2012-03-31 22:56:17 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: LOL nice
554 2012-03-31 22:56:24 <luke-jr> didn't consider that
555 2012-03-31 22:56:28 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: yep
556 2012-03-31 22:56:40 <luke-jr> I should have thought of that as a reason to push forward BIP17 instead ;)
557 2012-03-31 22:56:44 <gmaxwell> [Tycho]: include 10,000 BTC fee with your bad-bip16 transaction. That should cause some amusing drama.
558 2012-03-31 22:57:24 <[Tycho]> It won't be relayed far enough anyway.
559 2012-03-31 22:59:11 <gmaxwell> So it only takes a single bad BIP16 spend to make all the non-bip16 pools produce nothing but orphans.
560 2012-03-31 22:59:11 <[Tycho]> Also they may try to mine a block with a timestamp in the past. May be.
561 2012-03-31 22:59:11 <BlueMatt> given that most of the network isnt on 0.6/0.5.4
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563 2012-03-31 23:00:29 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: relay to the pools manually
564 2012-03-31 23:00:29 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: timestamps can't be too far in the past
565 2012-03-31 23:00:38 <[Tycho]> MM won't mine TXes anyway
566 2012-03-31 23:01:30 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: I suggest linking your eulogy from all those pools' forum threads etc
567 2012-03-31 23:01:30 <gmaxwell> well, fair point, you'd want to wait until the median of the last 11 is past the threshold.
568 2012-03-31 23:01:30 <luke-jr> [Tycho]: oh, you mean Mystery Miner, not Merged Mining…
569 2012-03-31 23:01:30 <[Tycho]> Yes.
570 2012-03-31 23:01:30 <[Tycho]> So actually it may be not those pools.
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572 2012-03-31 23:01:30 <gmaxwell> MM will extend dud chains created by other forked pools though.
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579 2012-03-31 23:10:45 <cande> is it common that bitcoind crashes once a week
580 2012-03-31 23:11:54 <cande> if it's run as a service
581 2012-03-31 23:11:54 <genjix> cande: yes
582 2012-03-31 23:11:54 <genjix> you need something to test for lockups and crashes, then kill -9 and restart it
583 2012-03-31 23:11:55 <cande> aha
584 2012-03-31 23:12:15 <cande> thx
585 2012-03-31 23:12:55 <genjix> cande: might like this http://bitcoinmedia.com/merchant-developer-tutorial/
586 2012-03-31 23:14:29 <[Tycho]> Crashing is not cool.
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588 2012-03-31 23:14:29 <cande> mm yes nice
589 2012-03-31 23:17:10 <BlueMatt> wait, wat?
590 2012-03-31 23:17:10 <BlueMatt> uh...it shouldnt crash once a wekk
591 2012-03-31 23:17:10 <BlueMatt> s/wekk/week/
592 2012-03-31 23:17:10 <[Tycho]> May be he need to use 0.3 version
593 2012-03-31 23:17:10 <BlueMatt> uh...not that either
594 2012-03-31 23:17:21 <BlueMatt> I dont think there is any reason 0.5.3 should crash
595 2012-03-31 23:17:21 <[Tycho]> Usually new versions are less stable.
596 2012-03-31 23:17:34 <BlueMatt> hence why i didnt say 0.6
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598 2012-03-31 23:18:44 <gmaxwell> genjix: Where are issues you've opened for the crashes?
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600 2012-03-31 23:19:53 <genjix> they aren't simple easily reproducible issues. they're things that only seem to happen under heavy load.
601 2012-03-31 23:19:53 <gmaxwell> cande: I don't know what genjix is talking about. I have a half dozen bitcoin daemons here, some under constant heavily and I'm not aware of any crashes/freezes with current code.
602 2012-03-31 23:20:00 <gmaxwell> cande: if you have a workload that makes it lock, please open issues and describe it.
603 2012-03-31 23:21:45 <gmaxwell> I'll see if I can reproduce it.
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605 2012-03-31 23:21:45 <cande> i'm just running a p2p node
606 2012-03-31 23:21:45 <cande> with 2 miners attached to it
607 2012-03-31 23:21:45 <cande> p2pool
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609 2012-03-31 23:21:45 <gmaxwell> cande: what version? and what os?
610 2012-03-31 23:21:45 <cande> ubuntu server
611 2012-03-31 23:21:45 <cande> 5.3
612 2012-03-31 23:21:46 <cande> 0.5.3
613 2012-03-31 23:22:05 <gmaxwell> cande: thats not at all expected, and not reported by other p2pool users.
614 2012-03-31 23:22:05 <cande> ok..
615 2012-03-31 23:22:37 <gmaxwell> Though, er. _you must update_ to 0.6 or 0.5.4  and p2pool 0.10.3 within an hour or your mining will be broken.
616 2012-03-31 23:24:27 <gmaxwell> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool  (See the red text at the top: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool)
617 2012-03-31 23:24:27 <cande> wow
618 2012-03-31 23:24:33 <elkingrey> I've just tried upgrading to 0.6.0 and have run into this problem: http://pastebin.com/hnNMKsh4 Anybody know why?
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622 2012-03-31 23:29:30 <BlueMatt> elkingrey: using the ppa linked from bitcoin.org?
623 2012-03-31 23:29:30 <BlueMatt> what os, exactly?
624 2012-03-31 23:29:30 <elkingrey> Yes
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627 2012-03-31 23:31:52 <cande> gmaxwell, how would you suggest i go about my bitcoind crashes? look in the bitcoind logs?
628 2012-03-31 23:31:52 <gmaxwell> cande: That would be a great starting place.
629 2012-03-31 23:31:52 <gmaxwell> Though I would suggest you upgrade your bitcoin and p2pool first, seeing as you only have a half hour before things break for you. :)
630 2012-03-31 23:31:52 <BlueMatt> cande: depends a bit...does it crash hard or does it lockup and refuse to accept more connections?
631 2012-03-31 23:31:52 <cande> hard
632 2012-03-31 23:31:52 <cande> it's just gone
633 2012-03-31 23:31:57 <BlueMatt> yea, then debug.log is the best place to start
634 2012-03-31 23:33:59 <BlueMatt> (in your bitcoin datadir)
635 2012-03-31 23:33:59 <cande> he,, the log looks normal
636 2012-03-31 23:33:59 <BlueMatt> :(
637 2012-03-31 23:33:59 <BlueMatt> can you run bitcoind without forking and see if it prints something exciting when it quits?
638 2012-03-31 23:33:59 <BlueMatt> what version where you previously running, btw?
639 2012-03-31 23:33:59 <BlueMatt> 0.5.3?
640 2012-03-31 23:33:59 <cande> this is my tail of debug.log : http://pastebin.com/x5KJ0jSC
641 2012-03-31 23:33:59 <cande> yes
642 2012-03-31 23:33:59 <cande> 0.5.3
643 2012-03-31 23:34:36 <cande> well, it quits once in a week, .. don't know a good way to monitor that
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645 2012-03-31 23:34:52 <elkingrey> Problem solved, just issued install bitcoin-qt command instead
646 2012-03-31 23:35:06 <BlueMatt> elkingrey: still, odd issue...
647 2012-03-31 23:35:16 <BlueMatt> cande: can you leave a terminal open for a week?
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649 2012-03-31 23:35:34 <cande> perhaps the screen command will do?
650 2012-03-31 23:35:44 <BlueMatt> that would do it
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652 2012-03-31 23:39:24 <cande> BlueMatt, ok will screen it now, and have upgraded , so we will see in a week or so :-)
653 2012-03-31 23:39:46 <BlueMatt> alright, thanks
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659 2012-03-31 23:47:32 <cande> BlueMatt, should i start bitcoind with any flags?
660 2012-03-31 23:48:13 <BlueMatt> cande: no, just see what it prints when it quits
661 2012-03-31 23:48:18 <cande> ok
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663 2012-03-31 23:51:14 <bx_> Anyone here gamble with bitcoin?
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675 2012-03-31 23:59:45 <genjix> i wonder if anyone decides to make any non-bip16 blocks after a bip16 blocks by cheating the median time :)