1 2012-04-17 00:00:03 <diki> CAUSE I'VE BEEN MINING LITECOIN ALL THIS TIME, and all of a sudden stopped getting anything
  2 2012-04-17 00:00:03 <Diablo-D3> it means you need to stop taking drugs
  3 2012-04-17 00:00:15 <diki> as I typed getwork
  4 2012-04-17 00:00:27 <diki> I noticed...every data field had the same hash
  5 2012-04-17 00:01:13 <guruvan> running through a caching proxy?
  6 2012-04-17 00:01:42 <diki> nothing like that
  7 2012-04-17 00:01:57 <diki> I have wasted more than 15-17 hours of electricity on the same work over and over
  8 2012-04-17 00:03:39 <diki> Just to confirm -> http://pastebin.com/ym4gNixT
  9 2012-04-17 00:04:23 <sipa> diki: i see nothing wrong
 10 2012-04-17 00:04:27 <diki> really?
 11 2012-04-17 00:05:11 <sipa> you get different work each time
 12 2012-04-17 00:05:27 <diki> well you see, I've already beaten the avg time...
 13 2012-04-17 00:05:37 <diki> I was getting blocks steadily, all of a sudden stopped
 14 2012-04-17 00:05:49 <sipa> what is the avg time?
 15 2012-04-17 00:05:56 <diki> 3 and a half hours
 16 2012-04-17 00:06:04 <sipa> and how long has is been?
 17 2012-04-17 00:06:08 <diki> days?
 18 2012-04-17 00:06:26 <sipa> that's unexpected
 19 2012-04-17 00:06:38 <diki> Well, I haven't gotten anything in 5 days...however total miner running time is still less than 24 hours
 20 2012-04-17 00:07:00 <sipa> 6 times above average time is extremele unlikely
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168 2012-04-17 09:05:45 <t7_> where is the code to check that a tx output hasnt already been spent? i cant see it in CTransaction::CheckTransaction
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171 2012-04-17 09:10:26 <t7> also why not use foreach here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1638
172 2012-04-17 09:10:33 <t7> its used everywhere else
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175 2012-04-17 09:35:38 <sirk390> t7_:  Double spending check is at line 1128  if (!txindex.vSpent[prevout.n].IsNull())
176 2012-04-17 09:36:41 <sirk390> t7_: It is in the method CTransaction::ConnectInputs().
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184 2012-04-17 11:02:30 <sipa> t7: no
185 2012-04-17 11:12:45 <t7> every input has to be the output of another tx, right?
186 2012-04-17 11:15:00 <sipa> yes
187 2012-04-17 11:15:25 <sipa> except coinbase inputs
188 2012-04-17 11:15:59 <t7> so where is the check to test that an output hasnt already been spent?
189 2012-04-17 11:16:42 <sipa> in ConnectInputs
190 2012-04-17 11:18:03 <sipa> in main.cpp
191 2012-04-17 11:20:03 <t7> ah it doesnt look back through the history,
192 2012-04-17 11:20:12 <t7> i thought it would
193 2012-04-17 11:20:29 <t7> it just sets a tx to 'spent'
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254 2012-04-17 14:14:12 <sipa> hi there gavin
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256 2012-04-17 14:14:22 <gavinandresen> hey sipa
257 2012-04-17 14:15:20 <sipa> what's your take on #1095 and #1109/#1112 ?
258 2012-04-17 14:16:15 <gavinandresen> Good Ideas.
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260 2012-04-17 14:16:36 <gavinandresen> ... as long as somebody's been testing / trying to break them
261 2012-04-17 14:16:53 <gavinandresen> (afk for a bit... back later)
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267 2012-04-17 14:30:19 <t7> Pythagorean reduction is the ultimate hashing algorithm
268 2012-04-17 14:30:41 <banshee12> whats pythagorean reduction?
269 2012-04-17 14:30:52 <t7> 123 -> 1 + 2 + 3 -> 6
270 2012-04-17 14:31:06 <t7> 1234 -> 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10 -> 1 + 0 -> 1
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272 2012-04-17 14:31:33 <luke-jr> t7: I can collide that easy.
273 2012-04-17 14:31:37 <sipa> you mean modulo 9?
274 2012-04-17 14:32:00 <t7> im calculating the average for 0 to 10 million
275 2012-04-17 14:32:07 <t7> as long as its close to 5
276 2012-04-17 14:32:09 <luke-jr> …
277 2012-04-17 14:32:38 <t7> im not gonna bother checking all results are equal
278 2012-04-17 14:32:57 <sipa> t7: seriously, that's just the modulo 9 operation
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280 2012-04-17 14:33:36 <t7> haha
281 2012-04-17 14:34:56 <Eliel_> no it's not :P 1233 -> 1 + 2 + 3 + 3 = 9
282 2012-04-17 14:35:27 <Eliel_> 1233%9 = 0 :P
283 2012-04-17 14:35:28 <sipa> Eliel_: it is, except 9 is not reduced to 0
284 2012-04-17 14:35:40 <Eliel_> yes, I'm nitpicking :P
285 2012-04-17 14:35:47 <sipa> thanks
286 2012-04-17 14:35:56 <t7> well then 0 could be 9
287 2012-04-17 14:36:05 <t7> thats security
288 2012-04-17 14:36:17 <t7> keep changing the nonce till you get a 0 or 9
289 2012-04-17 14:36:33 <Eliel_> well, in modulo 9, 9 is equal to 0
290 2012-04-17 14:36:58 <sipa> t7: no, calculate it once, if the result is x, add 9-x anywhere
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296 2012-04-17 14:43:10 <t7> any services you guys would like to see built? I have a webserver, an awesome haskell web framework and some free time....
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298 2012-04-17 14:43:30 <t7> i would like to build something that benifits the community rather than fills my wallet
299 2012-04-17 14:43:54 <t7> e.g. something other than a gambling site
300 2012-04-17 14:44:25 <banshee12> uhm
301 2012-04-17 14:44:38 <gavinandresen> actually, just this morning I was thinking of a service that would be very useful
302 2012-04-17 14:44:45 <gavinandresen> ... well, to geeks anyway.
303 2012-04-17 14:45:06 <sh0ckkk> a webbased interface that allows you to make mass hotmail accounts. something that allows you to enter first/last/username
304 2012-04-17 14:45:12 <gavinandresen> Alternative testnet blockchain service:  -connect to it and it will feed you a testnet blockchain that is different from the main testnet chain
305 2012-04-17 14:45:20 <sh0ckkk> free software already exists that does it, but you need your own proxies to not get blocked by hotmail
306 2012-04-17 14:45:33 <gavinandresen> Extra credit would be connect on different ports to get different chains
307 2012-04-17 14:45:59 <gavinandresen> And extra extra credit if some ports give you mostly-valid-except-not-quite chains
308 2012-04-17 14:47:16 <t7> like a bitcoin node, or a download and generation service?
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310 2012-04-17 14:47:53 <gavinandresen> like a bitcoin node.  Or when you say "service" do you mean a plain old website like thing?
311 2012-04-17 14:48:05 <Joric_> are there any papers regarding brainwallet standartization? i already implemented electrum :D it was easy it just uses 100k sha256 rounds of 128-byte seed
312 2012-04-17 14:48:10 <t7> well yeah, website would be easier :)
313 2012-04-17 14:48:29 <gavinandresen> if you want easier you should ask in #bitcoin
314 2012-04-17 14:48:41 <gavinandresen> All my ideas will be on the harder side, I think....
315 2012-04-17 14:48:43 <luke-jr> for testnet, could easily generate random chains on the fly…
316 2012-04-17 14:48:54 <luke-jr> just backdate the timestamps so every block is minimum diff
317 2012-04-17 14:49:35 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: sure.  Pre-canned would be less CPU work, though.
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319 2012-04-17 14:50:44 <gavinandresen> Joric_: RE: brainwallets:  I was thinking it'd be fun to have a Brainwallet Security Challenge.  Come up with some easy-to-remember but (you hope) hard-to-guess brainwallet passwords.  Publish the brainwallet algorithm you're using, fund some brainwallets, then challenge hackers to steal your coins by guessing your passphrase.
320 2012-04-17 14:50:55 <gavinandresen> (give them... oh, I dunno, six months?)
321 2012-04-17 14:51:09 <t7> do you guys welcome alternative nodes? (i guess not yet because not much is standard yet)
322 2012-04-17 14:51:23 <sipa> what is an alternative node?
323 2012-04-17 14:51:44 <sipa> one not running the reference client?
324 2012-04-17 14:51:53 <t7> a reimplementation of the satoshi client
325 2012-04-17 14:52:00 <luke-jr> t7: yes, we need more of those
326 2012-04-17 14:52:18 <luke-jr> the Satoshi client is the biggest centralization in Bitcoin right now
327 2012-04-17 14:52:24 <gavinandresen> Yes, diversity is good.  I've been shifting a bit to working more on cross-implementation testing/etc
328 2012-04-17 14:52:56 <gavinandresen> An alternative testnet chain server would be a nifty, useful part of that.
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330 2012-04-17 14:53:10 <sipa> there are a few already; libcoin is a large reorganisation of the satoshi code, libcoin is a reimplementation in C++, purecoin is a reimplementation in Haskell (not sure if it implements the network protocol, though)
331 2012-04-17 14:53:27 <luke-jr> *libbitcoin is a reimplementation in C++
332 2012-04-17 14:53:51 <sipa> indeed
333 2012-04-17 14:54:07 <t7> roconnor doesnt want anyone to use his purecoin tho :|
334 2012-04-17 14:54:16 <luke-jr> O.o
335 2012-04-17 14:55:13 <phantomcircuit> sipa, there is no way to avoid reimplementing the network protocol
336 2012-04-17 14:55:17 <phantomcircuit> or rather
337 2012-04-17 14:55:25 <phantomcircuit> there is no way to avoid doing 95% of the work
338 2012-04-17 14:55:30 <sipa> gavinandresen: not sure you noticed, but in #1052 there was a fix that made the deadlock detecter cope correctly with try locks
339 2012-04-17 14:55:52 <sipa> gavinandresen: now, i still get some detected potential deadlocks, and those look correct to me
340 2012-04-17 14:56:16 <gavinandresen> correct as in "need to be fixed" ?
341 2012-04-17 14:56:17 <jgarzik> gavinandresen: re-pong on pong (bip 31)
342 2012-04-17 14:56:23 <jgarzik> er, re-ping on pong
343 2012-04-17 14:56:25 <sipa> gavinandresen: yes
344 2012-04-17 14:56:50 <gavinandresen> sipa: easy fixes or hard?  Fixing deadlocks I wholeheartedly encourage
345 2012-04-17 14:57:14 <gavinandresen> jgarzik: I don't really care about pong, whatever the consensus is I'm fine with
346 2012-04-17 14:57:18 <sipa> gavinandresen: haven't investigated further - it just surprises me one is still left
347 2012-04-17 14:57:34 <jgarzik> time to merge then!  :)
348 2012-04-17 14:57:41 <jgarzik> well, after Mexican food
349 2012-04-17 14:58:21 <gavinandresen> sipa:  I've been distracted recently doing a bunch of non-bitcoin-real-life tidying up.  I've been mostly working on a testnet reset, crafting a good initial chain with interesting test cases embedded in it
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352 2012-04-17 15:02:18 <kish> hmm
353 2012-04-17 15:03:03 <kish> anyone know why i get this when i run bitcoin: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'DbException' what():  Db::open: Invalid argument
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360 2012-04-17 15:20:35 <seco> <sipa> one not running the reference client? ==> have a look on http://bitcoinarmory.com/ and say thanks to etotheipi_ :)
361 2012-04-17 15:22:40 <sipa> seco: i'm a big fan of armory, but it's not a full node yet :)
362 2012-04-17 15:23:03 <luke-jr> sipa: afaik it's just missing the blockchain downloading and p2p bits?
363 2012-04-17 15:23:14 <sipa> luke-jr: and blockchain verification
364 2012-04-17 15:23:21 <seco> kish: on such weird errors that suggest db-error i always restart client with clean blockchain from backup, cleanedup datadirectory: when error doesnt occur i remember killing bitcoin-qt proccess again with kill last time without giving enough time to end all his work after it received after TERM lol :p
365 2012-04-17 15:23:27 <luke-jr> sipa: I thought it verified the blockchain now
366 2012-04-17 15:24:02 <sipa> luke-jr: it just picks the chain with the most work found in blk0001.dat
367 2012-04-17 15:24:10 <sipa> (afaik)
368 2012-04-17 15:24:37 <seco> sipa: yes, i remember to have seen implementing satoshi-free version somewhere on a todolist from armory, so i just startet to ignore that fact :o
369 2012-04-17 15:25:31 <t7> i think some kinda real time transaction notification service might be cool
370 2012-04-17 15:25:44 <t7> i will build something like that
371 2012-04-17 15:27:35 <seco> t7: something like transactionradar.com ? :)
372 2012-04-17 15:28:22 <t7> yeah but email, sms you
373 2012-04-17 15:28:29 <t7> when your address recieves something
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375 2012-04-17 15:30:31 <seco> code it, and if you tell me which domain you want i can sponsor it (also webspace if you need lol :)
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377 2012-04-17 15:31:27 <seco> or maybe work together with jan@uos.de :)
378 2012-04-17 15:31:37 <kish> seco, that sucks. i am NOT REDOWNLOADING THE BLOCKCHAIN
379 2012-04-17 15:31:44 <kish> not on this fucking pc, anyway
380 2012-04-17 15:31:55 <kish> im setting up a server just for running bitcoin
381 2012-04-17 15:31:58 <luke-jr> kish: try deleting addr.dat first
382 2012-04-17 15:32:14 <kish> i'd ideally run it in a freebsd jail but that seems too complicated
383 2012-04-17 15:32:19 <seco> kish: i wrote backup :-/
384 2012-04-17 15:32:19 <kish> not sure if bitcoin even runs on bsd
385 2012-04-17 15:32:33 <luke-jr> kish: Linux has jails too
386 2012-04-17 15:33:43 <Diablo-D3> chroot isnt a jail
387 2012-04-17 15:33:45 <luke-jr> http://lxc.sourceforge.net/
388 2012-04-17 15:34:17 <kish> why is lxc not included with linux
389 2012-04-17 15:34:26 <ovidiusoft> kish: it is
390 2012-04-17 15:34:35 <kish> what the hell is bitcoin doing with my disks now?
391 2012-04-17 15:34:43 <Diablo-D3> its eating them, kish
392 2012-04-17 15:34:47 <Diablo-D3> it finds them delicious
393 2012-04-17 15:34:47 <kish> i deleted adr* and now it's chirping away on my drive
394 2012-04-17 15:34:58 <sipa> kish: which version?
395 2012-04-17 15:35:01 <Diablo-D3> kish: you were supposed to delete addr.dat while bitcoin was off.
396 2012-04-17 15:35:04 <luke-jr> kish: probably updating the blockchain
397 2012-04-17 15:35:33 <kish> luke-jr, how long will that take?
398 2012-04-17 15:35:40 <luke-jr> kish: depends on how long you had it off
399 2012-04-17 15:35:41 <Diablo-D3> decades.
400 2012-04-17 15:35:57 <kish> debug log is not showing anything
401 2012-04-17 15:36:22 <luke-jr> kish: then what Diablo-D3 said
402 2012-04-17 15:36:35 <seco> addr.dat = addresses of DHT to other nodes?
403 2012-04-17 15:36:42 * luke-jr facepalms
404 2012-04-17 15:36:53 <sipa> Bitcoin is not a DHT
405 2012-04-17 15:36:57 <sipa> and it does not use one
406 2012-04-17 15:37:03 * Diablo-D3 facepalms too
407 2012-04-17 15:37:21 <luke-jr> [12:15:18] <gmaxwell> Someday I'm going to get myself invited to some conference with the president, and while he's talking about some middle east conflict thing— I'm going to ask if they've considered using a DHT.
408 2012-04-17 15:37:39 <sipa> seco: but yes, it contains IP addresses and statistics of other nodes
409 2012-04-17 15:37:40 <seco> ahh okok i will read about how redirection goes grml
410 2012-04-17 15:37:41 <Diablo-D3> _hah_
411 2012-04-17 15:37:45 <Diablo-D3> gmaxwell: oh man
412 2012-04-17 15:37:55 <sipa> luke-jr: lol!
413 2012-04-17 15:38:16 <sipa> gmaxwell: also ask whether he considered virtualization and/or moving to the cloud
414 2012-04-17 15:38:48 <kish> ask him if he prefers jails
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416 2012-04-17 15:41:51 <seco> peerxchange of lists ok...forgive me guys i always think about DHTs because i had to implement such one time in the past :p
417 2012-04-17 15:42:20 <seco> i also remind of some ugly hardocded examples haha :D
418 2012-04-17 15:44:27 <luke-jr> seco: like this? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/net.cpp#L1061
419 2012-04-17 15:47:30 <seco> well a step further: list of nodes was hardcoded as objects from the mainlass :p
420 2012-04-17 15:47:35 * seco hides
421 2012-04-17 15:48:02 <seco> i had just to show it works :)
422 2012-04-17 15:49:08 <seco> mainclass*
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424 2012-04-17 15:51:43 <kish> it works, my bitches.
425 2012-04-17 15:51:46 <kish> it fucking works
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428 2012-04-17 15:55:38 <jgarzik> sipa, gavinandresen: release planning...  it sounded like the plan was to do a 0.6.1 with largely bug fixes, and maybe a few cleanups.  Any major issues still outstanding as "that -must- be solved for 0.6.1"?
429 2012-04-17 15:56:11 <jgarzik> dumb question...  did feedback on 0.6.0 indicate that 0.6.1 was warranted, rather than a more featureful straight-to-0.7?
430 2012-04-17 15:57:04 <jgarzik> sipa, gavinandresen: IMO https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1094 is 0.6.1 material
431 2012-04-17 15:57:09 <jgarzik> all the rest of my stuff is 0.7 material
432 2012-04-17 16:00:42 <luke-jr> jgarzik: will that pong merge work if the nonce is omitted?
433 2012-04-17 16:02:52 <sipa> jgarzik: hmm, i was hoping to get #1095, #1109 or #1112 also in 0.6.1
434 2012-04-17 16:03:11 <sipa> as those are also cleanups
435 2012-04-17 16:03:26 <sipa> i'll do some testing on #1094
436 2012-04-17 16:05:14 <sipa> #1106 as well, actually
437 2012-04-17 16:07:28 <jgarzik> sipa: up to you/gavin/etc...   I am all for pulling cleanups, even features.  My standard logic, however, prioritizes fixes -> features -> cleanups.
438 2012-04-17 16:07:43 <jgarzik> sipa: that works for the kernel, but maybe that's too conservative for bitcoin
439 2012-04-17 16:08:06 <jgarzik> (with the obvious exception being for features that require cleanups)
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443 2012-04-17 16:13:48 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: luke-jr opened pull request 1113 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1113>
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450 2012-04-17 16:29:33 <jgarzik> sipa: updating
451 2012-04-17 16:29:40 <jgarzik> AlreadyHave()
452 2012-04-17 16:34:24 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: sipa opened pull request 1114 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1114>
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455 2012-04-17 16:39:26 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: luke-jr opened issue 1116 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1116> || laanwj opened pull request 1115 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1115>
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457 2012-04-17 16:40:00 <sipa> gavinandresen: i noticed somewhere in a bug report from you that a build from you reported version 0.6.0.99-unk; does the git commit detection not work on OSX?
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459 2012-04-17 16:47:43 <Diablo-D3> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3853404
460 2012-04-17 16:47:48 <Diablo-D3> put this on the top of HN
461 2012-04-17 17:00:40 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: sipa opened pull request 1117 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1117>
462 2012-04-17 17:04:23 <gavinandresen> jgarzik: RE: release planning: I went through the issues list last week tagging priorities.  There are three total high priority bugs, two of which I'd really like to see fixed for a 0.6.1 if possible (addrMan crash on CentOS and bitcoin slow to shut down)
463 2012-04-17 17:05:00 <gavinandresen> sipa: haven't looked at the git commit detection; I was almost certainly running some weirdly patched bitcoind with uncommitted changes
464 2012-04-17 17:05:37 <sipa> ok, could you try if you build master now that it reports a version (first line in debug.log) of v0.6.0-<number>-g<commitid>-beta ?
465 2012-04-17 17:06:19 <sipa> i'll have a look at the shutdown speed, but i doubt it will be easy to improve
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467 2012-04-17 17:06:44 <gavinandresen> Can we set the cache sizes smaller after initial block download?
468 2012-04-17 17:07:15 <gavinandresen> (I don't remember if those are change-at-any-time settings or change-before-opening-env....)
469 2012-04-17 17:11:46 <gavinandresen> sipa: built master, first line of debug.log when running is:  Bitcoin version vCLIENT_VERSION_MAJOR.CLIENT_VERSION_MINOR.CLIENT_VERSION_REVISION.CLIENT_VERSION_BUILD-unk-beta (Apr 17 2012, 13:07:27)
470 2012-04-17 17:12:06 <gavinandresen> oops, hang on, using my own makefile....
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473 2012-04-17 17:14:03 <luke-jr> >_<
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475 2012-04-17 17:14:21 <jgarzik> gavinandresen,
476 2012-04-17 17:14:25 <jgarzik> "The DB->set_cachesize interface may be used only to configure Berkeley DB before the DB->open interface is called."
477 2012-04-17 17:14:50 <sipa> jgarzik: already testing
478 2012-04-17 17:14:50 <jgarzik> http://doc.gnu-darwin.org/api_c/db_set_cachesize.html
479 2012-04-17 17:15:04 <jgarzik> sipa: well that's what the bdb docs say...
480 2012-04-17 17:15:11 <DBordello> If people are bored and want to have a discussion, I am wondering what is up with the 21st input on this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/4004291/0fe4b4a9a05e935f0ac4de6a924850053d04a517e18163a6980ec1a59b0dc284
481 2012-04-17 17:15:21 <DBordello> The scriptSig only has 1 argument.  Is that valid?
482 2012-04-17 17:15:45 <sipa> jgarzik: oh, wait, i'm using DbEnv::set_cachesiz
483 2012-04-17 17:15:46 <sipa> jgarzik: oh, wait, i'm using DbEnv::set_cachesize
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485 2012-04-17 17:16:06 <sipa> which can be used while the database env is open
486 2012-04-17 17:18:28 <jgarzik> "The DB_ENV->set_cachesize() method may be called at any time during the life of the application."
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491 2012-04-17 17:19:50 <luke-jr> DBordello: perfectly valid to have even zero
492 2012-04-17 17:20:07 <luke-jr> DBordello: 1 is standard for redeeming send-to-pubkey
493 2012-04-17 17:20:22 <luke-jr> http://blockexplorer.com/tx/0d1f2e45aefdf3dfcd6a8400630c4df9f0e87cdd5e5616c36118ac0b6268f00f#o2
494 2012-04-17 17:20:40 <DBordello> Interesting
495 2012-04-17 17:20:44 <sipa> DBordello: scriptSig is whatever the corresponding scriptPubKey expects
496 2012-04-17 17:21:05 <sipa> if you create a scriptPubKey that takes no arguments and always returns true, it can be redeemed using an empty scriptSig
497 2012-04-17 17:21:08 <luke-jr> DBordello: technically, you can even put code in scriptSig
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499 2012-04-17 17:21:36 <DBordello> So I take it there are more transactions than those listed here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transactions
500 2012-04-17 17:22:03 <sipa> transactions can contain any script, as long as a miner wants to put it in a block
501 2012-04-17 17:22:21 <DBordello> cool, I will just have to be more aware of them.
502 2012-04-17 17:22:30 <sipa> those listed there are just the only ones created by the standard client
503 2012-04-17 17:23:57 <luke-jr> jgarzik: are you intentionally introducing tabs into main.cpp (ie, can I do it too?), or was that a mistake?
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506 2012-04-17 17:24:39 <DBordello> Why would someone do send -to-pubkey instead of send-to-address?
507 2012-04-17 17:24:50 <luke-jr> DBordello: saves space in the blockchain, slightly more secure
508 2012-04-17 17:25:04 <DBordello> It does seem simplier
509 2012-04-17 17:25:08 <jgarzik> luke-jr: there are zero tabs in latest upstream bitcoin/bitcoin.git
510 2012-04-17 17:25:21 <jgarzik> luke-jr: in any *.cpp
511 2012-04-17 17:25:27 <luke-jr> jgarzik: 8bff8ac
512 2012-04-17 17:25:56 <jgarzik> luke-jr: "latest upstream"
513 2012-04-17 17:26:09 <luke-jr> that's in master.
514 2012-04-17 17:26:50 <luke-jr> unless the merge changed it around
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516 2012-04-17 17:27:04 <luke-jr> ah, it did, sneaky
517 2012-04-17 17:27:36 <luke-jr> or I'm just misreading what isn't a merge as one >_<
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521 2012-04-17 17:30:04 <sipa> jgarzik, gavinandresen: it's clearly the lsn_reset that takes long (at least, in a simple short test)
522 2012-04-17 17:30:16 <sipa> not flushing caches or checkpointing
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526 2012-04-17 17:30:41 <sipa> that call is only necessary if you want to move files between environments
527 2012-04-17 17:30:58 <sipa> i wonder if we could disable it by default for blkindex.dat
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531 2012-04-17 17:33:11 <sipa> if i do so, shutdown is almost instantaneous
532 2012-04-17 17:33:30 <gavinandresen> nice!
533 2012-04-17 17:35:13 <gavinandresen> I'll take faster shutdown over needing to run... something... if you want to copy blkindex.dat somewhere else (or are lsn's written only to the log files?)
534 2012-04-17 17:37:59 <sipa> i'll try a full blockchain download, see if it's still almost instantaneous
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536 2012-04-17 17:41:38 <gavinandresen> sipa: fixing my customized makefile HAVE_BUILD_INFO works nicely: Bitcoin version v0.6.0-73-gfa794a2-beta
537 2012-04-17 17:42:03 <sipa> ok, great
538 2012-04-17 17:42:54 <sipa> gavinandresen: something i only realized after writing it, we'll need to rebuild between last rc and final now, as rc's get the rc name (from the git tag name) automatically now
539 2012-04-17 17:43:45 <MC1984> coindl.com
540 2012-04-17 17:43:55 <MC1984> so is this website just eating the double spend risk
541 2012-04-17 17:44:30 <gavinandresen> sipa: OK; what happens if the same commit has two tag names?  (as a final and rc should, assuming no changes)
542 2012-04-17 17:44:56 <sipa> gavinandresen: it should give the most recent one
543 2012-04-17 17:45:01 <gavinandresen> spiffy, perfect
544 2012-04-17 17:45:05 <sipa> so that should work as intended
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546 2012-04-17 17:45:24 <gavinandresen> most recent as determined by highest block in the chai.... er, wait, never mind
547 2012-04-17 17:45:31 <sipa> haha
548 2012-04-17 17:45:51 <jgarzik> sipa, gavinandresen: feel free to pull any of my cleanups you feel appropriate to 0.6.1.  I'm leaving the pull timing for those up to you guys
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550 2012-04-17 17:53:18 <sipa> gavinandresen: potential candidates for 0.6.1 imho: #959, #1095, #1106, #1109, #1112, #1117
551 2012-04-17 17:53:22 <gavinandresen> I haven't been keeping track, is there a better or worse order for pulling cleanups with respect to what will need to get rebased?
552 2012-04-17 17:54:50 <sipa> not sure, if there's a conflict, there's a conflict in whatever order you pull them
553 2012-04-17 17:55:07 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: you still having issues with pull #959 ?
554 2012-04-17 17:55:09 <luke-jr> sipa: 1116
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556 2012-04-17 17:55:45 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: I don't think so, but I should make a conscious verify before ACKing myself
557 2012-04-17 17:57:26 <sipa> haven't looked at 1116 closely
558 2012-04-17 17:58:11 <jgarzik> gavinandresen: I would pull sipa/my headers.h stuff last
559 2012-04-17 17:58:37 <jgarzik> that has the most code movement
560 2012-04-17 17:58:47 <jgarzik> (or very first)
561 2012-04-17 18:00:20 <gavinandresen> cool, pull away....
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563 2012-04-17 18:01:09 <sipa> i need to rebase 1112 already, sec
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565 2012-04-17 18:04:59 <denisx> hmm, my freshly build bitcoind HEAD is running at 100%
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567 2012-04-17 18:05:11 <denisx> blockchain is uptodate and everything looks normal, but still 100%
568 2012-04-17 18:05:43 <paulo_> a private key only generates one unique public key, right?
569 2012-04-17 18:07:08 <sipa> paulo_: there's a one-to-one correspondence between private and public keys, yes
570 2012-04-17 18:07:15 <sipa> denisx: hmm, that shouldn't happen
571 2012-04-17 18:07:19 <sipa> denisx: what did you do?
572 2012-04-17 18:07:28 <denisx> sipa: updated to HEAD
573 2012-04-17 18:07:35 <gavinandresen> But two different bitcoin addresses for every public key (compressed and non-compressed)
574 2012-04-17 18:07:58 <sipa> gavinandresen: well, the public key (at least its serialization) is different as well
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576 2012-04-17 18:08:35 <gavinandresen> two different representations of the same point-on-the-curve, right?
577 2012-04-17 18:08:55 <gavinandresen> (so it depends on exactly what paulo_ means by "public key")
578 2012-04-17 18:10:08 <denisx> sipa: ok, I started again and now it looks normal
579 2012-04-17 18:10:56 <sipa> denisx: that's potentially even more worrysome
580 2012-04-17 18:11:00 <denisx> damn, there it is again ;(
581 2012-04-17 18:11:13 <paulo_> gavinandresen: by public key, I mean the one that is used to generate the address.
582 2012-04-17 18:11:22 <luke-jr> paulo_: technically, you could get 2 public keys (normal and compressed) from 1 private key, but Bitcoin flags privkeys so they only get used one way
583 2012-04-17 18:13:01 <paulo_> compressed?
584 2012-04-17 18:13:33 <sipa> paulo_: easy answer: since the address is simply the hash of the (serialized) public key, there is only one address per public key
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588 2012-04-17 18:16:03 <sipa> ;;bc,blocks
589 2012-04-17 18:16:03 <gribble> 176051
590 2012-04-17 18:20:34 <sipa> denisx: anything special in debug.log?
591 2012-04-17 18:20:55 <denisx> sipa: I looked right now, nothing special
592 2012-04-17 18:21:22 <denisx> sipa: but when I stop it the 100% disappears the moment the ThreadConnectionThread (or so) stops
593 2012-04-17 18:22:02 <sipa> gavinandresen: full block chain loaded (first part from disk using loadblock, last part via p2p), waited until finished -> shutdown in less than 1s
594 2012-04-17 18:22:13 <sipa> (when lsn_reset for blkindex.dat is not performed)
595 2012-04-17 18:22:20 <denisx> sipa: "04/17/12 18:18:15 Added 362 addresses from 76.184.236.73: 1031 tried, 11500 new"
596 2012-04-17 18:22:24 <denisx> is this normal?
597 2012-04-17 18:22:26 <sipa> yes
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599 2012-04-17 18:23:02 <gavinandresen> sipa: nifty.  Can you still copy blkindex.dat to a new datadir and have it work?
600 2012-04-17 18:23:23 <sipa> no
601 2012-04-17 18:23:36 <sipa> and you can't delete database/*.log either
602 2012-04-17 18:24:05 <gavinandresen> if you do you wind up with an unusable blkindex.dat I assume....
603 2012-04-17 18:24:18 <sipa> no, it just fails to start
604 2012-04-17 18:24:18 <gavinandresen> is there a db_foo tool that'll lsn_reset ?
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607 2012-04-17 18:32:22 <BlueMattBot> Project Bitcoin-Test build #267: FAILURE in 13 min: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/job/Bitcoin-Test/267/
608 2012-04-17 18:32:23 <BlueMattBot> * jgarzik: New class CTxMemPool, encapsulating TX memory pool data members
609 2012-04-17 18:32:23 <BlueMattBot> * jgarzik: CTxMemPool: encapsulate AddToMemoryPoolUnchecked(), RemoveFromMemoryPool(),
610 2012-04-17 18:32:24 <BlueMattBot> * jgarzik: CTxMemPool: encapsulate AcceptToMemoryPool
611 2012-04-17 18:32:24 <BlueMattBot> * jgarzik: CTxMemPool: add helper methods, to reduce global mempool.mapTx accesses
612 2012-04-17 18:32:25 <BlueMattBot> * jgarzik: The string class returns string::npos, when find() fails.
613 2012-04-17 18:32:25 <BlueMattBot> * jgarzik: Fix loop index var types, fixing many minor sign comparison warnings
614 2012-04-17 18:32:26 <BlueMattBot> * jgarzik: Fix sign-compare warnings: netbase's Lookup* max-solutions may be unsigned
615 2012-04-17 18:32:26 <BlueMattBot> * jgarzik: serialize.h: CAutoFile's read and write may take size_t nSize
616 2012-04-17 18:32:27 <BlueMattBot> * jgarzik: CNode's nHeaderStart may be negative, so change its type
617 2012-04-17 18:32:27 <BlueMattBot> * jgarzik: Fix misc. minor sign-comparison warnings
618 2012-04-17 18:32:28 <BlueMattBot> * laanwj: Add forgotten initializer
619 2012-04-17 18:32:28 <BlueMattBot> * laanwj: Remove unused and unreachable code
620 2012-04-17 18:32:29 <BlueMattBot> * pieter.wuille: Fix potential deadlock
621 2012-04-17 18:32:29 <BlueMattBot> * pieter.wuille: Remove headers.h
622 2012-04-17 18:32:30 <BlueMattBot> * pieter.wuille: Move CWalletDB code to new walletdb module.
623 2012-04-17 18:32:30 <BlueMattBot> * pieter.wuille: Move proto version to version.h.  Reduce header deps a bit more.
624 2012-04-17 18:32:31 <BlueMattBot> * pieter.wuille: Further reduce header dependencies
625 2012-04-17 18:33:14 <luke-jr> wtf
626 2012-04-17 18:33:15 <sipa> oh right, those damn unit tests
627 2012-04-17 18:33:40 <luke-jr> sipa: would you like my GNUmakefile? :P
628 2012-04-17 18:33:56 <sipa> which does?
629 2012-04-17 18:34:49 <luke-jr> builds Bitcoin-Qt, bitcoind, and bitcoin_test, then runs _test
630 2012-04-17 18:35:22 <luke-jr> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/583145/
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632 2012-04-17 18:40:48 <jgarzik> TD[gone]: BIP 31 merged as "if (ver > 60000) { do it }"
633 2012-04-17 18:41:16 <jgarzik> TD[gone]: luke-jr raised a point about whether or not nonce may be optional
634 2012-04-17 18:41:26 <jgarzik> TD[gone]: the language of the BIP say "can be"
635 2012-04-17 18:41:29 <jgarzik> *says
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638 2012-04-17 18:44:28 <sipa> gavinandresen: often, deleting database/* just works, but occassionally it doesn't
639 2012-04-17 18:44:41 <sipa> kinda hard to test whether db_checkpoint or db_recover help
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642 2012-04-17 18:47:39 <sipa> oh wait, running wrong version
643 2012-04-17 18:48:14 <gavinandresen> I know I pretty frequently do: sync a bitcoind.  Shutdown.  Copy blk*.dat to some other -datadir then run.  If you/we can make that work (even if you end up having to re-download the last N blocks) then that would be perfect.  Second best would be fast shutdown but everybody has to get used to running something else to copy the blk* files to a new datadir.
644 2012-04-17 18:48:22 <banshee12> whens 0.6.1 coming out?
645 2012-04-17 18:49:03 <gavinandresen> banshee12: the goal is to have the first release candidate out before the end of this week.
646 2012-04-17 18:49:18 <paulo_> any new features?
647 2012-04-17 18:49:29 <gavinandresen> no, bugfix only
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649 2012-04-17 18:51:55 <sipa> gavinandresen: no lsn_reset -> deleting database/* -> fails to start
650 2012-04-17 18:52:56 <sipa> using db_checkpoint manually doesn't help
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652 2012-04-17 18:53:43 <sipa> db_recover same
653 2012-04-17 18:56:17 <gavinandresen> sigh... tough to decide if very quick shutdowns are worth the screams we'll hear from people who regularly delete database/* and then have to re-download the whole chain.
654 2012-04-17 18:56:49 <gavinandresen> Hmm.  Although if blkindex.dat was corrupted, startup could just create a new one and -loadblocks from blk.00001 ....
655 2012-04-17 18:57:12 <sipa> that would take half an hour
656 2012-04-17 18:57:15 <sipa> or more
657 2012-04-17 18:57:33 <sipa> what about a -cleanshutdown option
658 2012-04-17 18:57:39 <sipa> if you want to do moves
659 2012-04-17 18:57:42 <sipa> or -dbcleanup
660 2012-04-17 18:57:47 <gavinandresen> yup.  better than downloading from the network, though.
661 2012-04-17 18:58:23 <gavinandresen> or an RPC backupblockchain like backupwallet to do a clean copy somewhere else
662 2012-04-17 18:59:08 * banshee12 afk
663 2012-04-17 19:00:17 <gavinandresen> I think overall a fast shutdown will mean fewer corrupt database reports, unless lots of people are using copy-the-blockchain-tools (I think most of the multi-wallet shell script hacks would be coping wallet.dat files, right?)
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665 2012-04-17 19:01:03 <sipa> maybe -dbcleanup default for bitcoind, but not for bitcoin-qt?
666 2012-04-17 19:02:47 <gavinandresen> Different defaults for GUI versus not would just add confusion I think.
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669 2012-04-17 19:03:45 <upb> backgavinandersenlockchain
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671 2012-04-17 19:04:21 <sipa> gavinandresen: ok, whatabout a -fastshutdown cmdline/bitcoin.conf/option setting, that is default on for new bitcoin-qt runs?
672 2012-04-17 19:05:45 <gavinandresen> -fastshutdown I like, I think defaulting it to 1 is the right thing to do, and we can just deal with the screams
673 2012-04-17 19:06:18 <luke-jr> won't deleting database/* in such a case destroy the wallet too?
674 2012-04-17 19:06:29 <sipa> luke-jr: no, wallet is lsn_resetted
675 2012-04-17 19:06:41 <luke-jr> oh, it's per-db
676 2012-04-17 19:07:05 <gavinandresen> yeah, that's the only reason I think this is OK: worst case scenario isn't that bad (you just have to re-dl the blockchain)
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680 2012-04-17 19:12:40 <luke-jr> would it make sense to lsn_reset after blocks download, rather than shutdown?
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682 2012-04-17 19:20:46 <sipa> hmm, maybe, but i doubt it would speed things up a lot
683 2012-04-17 19:23:43 <gmaxwell> I'm not too keen on -suckless=1 especially ones that have unfortunate side effects like blockchain corruption. :(
684 2012-04-17 19:24:48 <gmaxwell> (in particular because one or the other state will be under-tested)
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696 2012-04-17 19:42:33 <UukGoblin> hrm, is there a visualiser for merkle trees somewhere? ;-)
697 2012-04-17 19:45:52 <sipa> gmaxwell: it's not really that corruption-prone (though it will be undertested)... either you use fastshutdown, and go get an error if you try to move the file, or you don't and it's slow, people are likely to kill it, but you'll be able the file afterwards
698 2012-04-17 19:46:26 <sipa> + to move
699 2012-04-17 19:47:47 <sipa> (note that we still do a checkpoint, so db+log together will be in a consistent state
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702 2012-04-17 19:51:29 <UukGoblin> I'm trying to recompute the merkle root of http://blockexplorer.com/block/0000000000000231db26ab70c8e4abb19c6fc02289773589a8ca644a7c16a07a, which, working in big-endian, should be dc4d4715c9975f80f73b9e8a1fdcafa7784cef57942d62ab0957840911ad42d7
703 2012-04-17 19:52:20 <UukGoblin> coinbase is c0e1ceef00834e00e1c3e4cceb89cd4963823cc7046f1e71d0cd92672320ec75, hashed up with first txn 7e2c8491cf1245365fa69707ac591a7a580b8e7c8feb587a3b73b526163ca2cb gives bec2d638a979e4a504f4721611753fda3a3c157fa8c5ba8b0bef417c63619691
704 2012-04-17 19:52:40 <UukGoblin> two following txns seem to hash up to 9b4910f0eed05203844ccbed4fcdc7e8b0c09082908e13dc9ec5193d2746d943
705 2012-04-17 19:52:40 <luke-jr> UukGoblin: try little-endian
706 2012-04-17 19:52:50 <UukGoblin> then I'm getting tired
707 2012-04-17 19:53:17 <UukGoblin> luke-jr, little-endian is mad for sha256
708 2012-04-17 19:53:21 <luke-jr> actually, this is probably a mixed-endian case.
709 2012-04-17 19:53:29 <UukGoblin> nah, I doubt it
710 2012-04-17 19:53:30 <luke-jr> each 32-bit chunk is big-endian of course
711 2012-04-17 19:53:35 <luke-jr> as required for SHA256
712 2012-04-17 19:53:44 <luke-jr> but those chunks are themselves in little-endian order
713 2012-04-17 19:53:59 <luke-jr> UukGoblin: you worship Satoshi too much ;)
714 2012-04-17 19:54:51 <UukGoblin> luke-jr, sha256sum on commandline outputs big-endian... why does blockexplorer et al use little-endian I do not comprehend
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716 2012-04-17 19:55:16 <UukGoblin> I think my code breaks somewhere when padding the remainder of the block with the last transaction
717 2012-04-17 19:55:20 <luke-jr> UukGoblin: Bitcoin uses a mix of big endian and little endian.
718 2012-04-17 19:55:24 <luke-jr> UukGoblin: learn to hate it :p
719 2012-04-17 19:55:36 <UukGoblin> luke-jr, trust me, I have
720 2012-04-17 19:55:56 <UukGoblin> I'm just this little bit away from releasing my timestamper: _
721 2012-04-17 19:56:18 <luke-jr> https://gitorious.org/bitcoin/eloipool/blobs/master/util.py#line97
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724 2012-04-17 19:56:41 <UukGoblin> and the number of times I made a test pass by swapping endianness is huge
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730 2012-04-17 19:59:10 <UukGoblin> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=kNHgnj9t <- here's the output of my merkle_branch generator / parser...
731 2012-04-17 19:59:28 <UukGoblin> (that's for block 176036 like above)
732 2012-04-17 20:00:24 <UukGoblin> it computes merkle root as 3fc75d0230bd736bbd4c85b1f5aa30e02635662e55a6903c04eadbdd99cb5ddd
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736 2012-04-17 20:03:44 <UukGoblin> bah. need more debug.
737 2012-04-17 20:04:11 <luke-jr> UukGoblin: what language?
738 2012-04-17 20:04:15 <UukGoblin> perl
739 2012-04-17 20:04:18 <luke-jr> i c
740 2012-04-17 20:04:37 <luke-jr> mtve's bitcoin-pl doesn't do it?
741 2012-04-17 20:05:11 <UukGoblin> hm, I haven't checked, actually
742 2012-04-17 20:05:15 <luke-jr> PROOF INCORRECT, should get 7aa0167c4a64caa88935778922c06f9cb1abe4c870ab26db3102000000000000
743 2012-04-17 20:05:18 <luke-jr> why would you expect that?
744 2012-04-17 20:05:27 <luke-jr> oh, you're doing the whole block hash
745 2012-04-17 20:05:30 <UukGoblin> yeah
746 2012-04-17 20:05:59 <luke-jr> I think you need to swap32 the merkleroot
747 2012-04-17 20:06:34 <UukGoblin> nah, I see in the output that the computed merkle root is 3fc75d0230bd736bbd4c85b1f5aa30e02635662e55a6903c04eadbdd99cb5ddd, and I see in blockexplorer that it should be d742ad1109845709ab622d9457ef4c78a7afdc1f8a9e3bf7805f97c915474ddc
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749 2012-04-17 20:06:43 <UukGoblin> this doesn't swap in any way
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751 2012-04-17 20:07:09 <luke-jr> hmm
752 2012-04-17 20:07:13 <UukGoblin> there's some Ds at the end, but not exactly what they should be
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755 2012-04-17 20:10:12 <UukGoblin> luke-jr, don't worry, I'll find it
756 2012-04-17 20:10:21 <UukGoblin> just... tired... been hashing all day
757 2012-04-17 20:10:43 <UukGoblin> and reversing, and single-hashing, then double-hashing, then reversing bytes again
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759 2012-04-17 20:12:06 <lianj> UukGoblin: https://github.com/lian/bitcoin-ruby/blob/master/spec/bitcoin/bitcoin_spec.rb#L97  https://github.com/lian/bitcoin-ruby/blob/master/lib/bitcoin.rb#L187
760 2012-04-17 20:14:23 <UukGoblin> lianj, thanks... I'll see if I can find a bug in my code first and then have a look if it still fails
761 2012-04-17 20:14:26 <UukGoblin> need more debug
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765 2012-04-17 20:20:57 <BlueMattBot> Yippie, build fixed!
766 2012-04-17 20:20:58 <BlueMattBot> Project Bitcoin-Test build #268: FIXED in 24 min: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/job/Bitcoin-Test/268/
767 2012-04-17 20:20:58 <BlueMattBot> pieter.wuille: Fix tests after recent refactors
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771 2012-04-17 20:23:04 <sipa> thx BlueMattBot
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802 2012-04-17 20:45:53 <sipa> wumpus: how would i go about adding a checkbox to the options panel?
803 2012-04-17 20:46:31 <sipa> luke-jr: any problems with #959?
804 2012-04-17 20:46:54 <luke-jr> [13:54:19] <luke-jr> gavinandresen: I don't think so, but I should make a conscious verify before ACKing myself
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806 2012-04-17 20:48:03 <luke-jr> if it helps, it does appear to be in the next-test that I run for regular use
807 2012-04-17 20:48:07 <wumpus> sipa: add an option to OptionsModel, add a checkbox to one of the pages in the OptionsDialog, and add a mapping in setMapper of that page between the widget and the option id
808 2012-04-17 20:48:27 <sipa> does that require qtcreator?
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810 2012-04-17 20:50:25 <wumpus> I don't think so
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813 2012-04-17 20:56:14 <egecko> welp, Bitdozer has passed certification and should be available in the Windows Phone Marketplace! :)
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816 2012-04-17 20:59:27 <luke-jr> mndrix: might want to use GetDebugLogName in reopen-log-file :p
817 2012-04-17 20:59:33 <luke-jr> egecko: what's that?
818 2012-04-17 21:02:52 <mndrix> luke-jr: GetDebugLogName doesn't exist anymore
819 2012-04-17 21:03:36 <luke-jr> mndrix: yeah, but why not?
820 2012-04-17 21:03:49 <luke-jr> seemed reasonable IMO
821 2012-04-17 21:04:41 <mndrix> yeah, since the new approach for building filenames is so easy and there are so few uses of debug.log, i decided against it
822 2012-04-17 21:05:42 <luke-jr> i c
823 2012-04-17 21:07:27 <sipa> wumpus: anything obvious i'm forgetting? changing the value doesn't seem to have effect. https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin/tree/fastshutdown
824 2012-04-17 21:10:37 <wumpus> sipa: I don't see any immediate problems
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826 2012-04-17 21:17:23 * luke-jr thinks he'll ignore Bitdozer for now.
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829 2012-04-17 21:30:10 <sipa> wumpus: found it, see #1118
830 2012-04-17 21:30:59 <wumpus> uhm.. yes, that's useful
831 2012-04-17 21:31:56 <gmaxwell> hey, at least the default case had a break!
832 2012-04-17 21:33:00 <wumpus> right, normally I add a break everywhere
833 2012-04-17 21:33:06 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: sipa opened pull request 1118 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1118>
834 2012-04-17 21:36:11 <sipa> gmaxwell: must always be prepared to handle unexpected input!
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836 2012-04-17 21:38:19 <Diablo-D3> damnit
837 2012-04-17 21:38:31 <Diablo-D3> its not even 7pm est, let alone 7pm fuckyouistan
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841 2012-04-17 21:40:29 <sipa> Diablo-D3: 11pm here
842 2012-04-17 21:41:21 <Diablo-D3> huh?
843 2012-04-17 21:41:25 <Diablo-D3> where the fuck are you
844 2012-04-17 21:41:44 <sipa> yurop
845 2012-04-17 21:41:53 <Diablo-D3> lol silly sipa
846 2012-04-17 21:41:53 <gmaxwell> CEST
847 2012-04-17 21:41:57 <Diablo-D3> america is ALL of the world
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849 2012-04-17 21:42:02 <Diablo-D3> there are no other countries
850 2012-04-17 21:42:14 <sipa> Diablo-D3: welcome to the world
851 2012-04-17 21:42:19 <sipa> world, this is Diablo-D3
852 2012-04-17 21:42:31 * Diablo-D3 tries to imagine living on mars
853 2012-04-17 21:42:35 <gmaxwell> I don't think the world is ready for Diablo-D3.
854 2012-04-17 21:42:48 * Diablo-D3 tries not to cry at how beautiful it would be
855 2012-04-17 21:43:00 <Diablo-D3> an entire planet with no fucktards on it
856 2012-04-17 21:43:13 <Diablo-D3> truly, a paradise
857 2012-04-17 21:43:16 <sipa> Diablo-D3: if you move to mars, you mean?
858 2012-04-17 21:43:17 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: sipa opened pull request 1119 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1119>
859 2012-04-17 21:43:20 <upb> wait, you said you were living on it?
860 2012-04-17 21:43:30 <upb> this it cant be :)
861 2012-04-17 21:43:44 <Diablo-D3> my homeland is mars, I just happen to not be there atm
862 2012-04-17 21:44:13 <luke-jr> only gavinandresen and sipa built 0.6.0?
863 2012-04-17 21:44:29 <luke-jr> a guy in #bitcoin is looking to verify the SHA sum by IRC since he doesn't have the signing key
864 2012-04-17 21:46:01 <gmaxwell> sipa: I guess the database has to be closed in order to lsn_reset it?  too bad, I was going to suggest that we just lsnreset after every block (once in steady state of course) and then we could skip it later.
865 2012-04-17 21:47:05 <vragnaroda> Diablo-D3: When people ask me where I'm from, I started answering Tharsis a long time ago.
866 2012-04-17 21:47:13 <vragnaroda> ;;wp Tharsis
867 2012-04-17 21:47:13 <gribble> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tharsis | The Tharsis region on Mars is a vast volcanic plateau centered near the equator in Mars' western hemisphere. The region is home to the largest volcanoes in the ...
868 2012-04-17 21:47:43 <vragnaroda> Diablo-D3: It's where both Valles Marineris and Olympus Mons are.
869 2012-04-17 21:48:04 <Diablo-D3> yes, I know where it is
870 2012-04-17 21:48:19 <vragnaroda> :)
871 2012-04-17 21:48:21 <Diablo-D3> I was trying to convince nenolod to name his new linux distro arsis
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875 2012-04-17 21:52:00 <vragnaroda> Diablo-D3: And there are cool time zones where it's 17:16:10 (MTC-4) right now.
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877 2012-04-17 21:53:32 <sipa> gmaxwell: The DbEnv::lsn_reset() method modifies the physical file, in-place. Applications should not reset LSNs in files that are currently in use.
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879 2012-04-17 21:57:02 <sipa> gmaxwell: doing a second lsn_reset is not faster, even with not a single change in between
880 2012-04-17 21:57:18 <sipa> i suppose it traverses the entire database file
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905 2012-04-17 22:45:07 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: rebroad opened issue 1120 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1120>
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917 2012-04-17 23:16:07 <luke-jr> / To help v0.1.5 clients who would see it as a negative number
918 2012-04-17 23:16:11 <luke-jr> were we going to get rid of that?
919 2012-04-17 23:16:23 * sipa votes "yes"
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926 2012-04-17 23:43:59 <t7> bitcoin though tor
927 2012-04-17 23:44:05 <t7> all of my why
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929 2012-04-17 23:46:02 <sipa> t7: ?
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932 2012-04-17 23:54:50 <luke-jr> http://www.worldipv6launch.org/participants/?q=1
933 2012-04-17 23:54:54 <luke-jr> ^ bitcoin.org should be on here :p
934 2012-04-17 23:56:08 <Dagger2> is it actually going to get an AAAA record by then? :p
935 2012-04-17 23:56:15 <sipa> i'd like to have the bitcoin network be ipv6-capable by then
936 2012-04-17 23:56:44 <sipa> but whether the actual site is reachable via IPv6 is only symbolically meaningful
937 2012-04-17 23:56:55 <Dagger2> true
938 2012-04-17 23:57:04 <Dagger2> it should still happen though (and is much easier to do)
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