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 15 2012-05-12 00:41:23 <denisx> version right now is 69900?
 16 2012-05-12 00:41:32 <denisx> sounds like the next version is 70000
 17 2012-05-12 00:42:42 <gmaxwell> denisx: We advance git to next-major-minus-epsilon during development for the next major.
 18 2012-05-12 00:44:34 <denisx> when 0.6.1 comes out, which version will it be?
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 20 2012-05-12 00:45:09 <denisx> ups, 0.6.2 is already out?
 21 2012-05-12 00:45:14 <denisx> ok, I missed something ;)
 22 2012-05-12 00:45:37 <gmaxwell> denisx: 0.6.1 has been out for a bit— actually 0.6.2 has been out for a couple days now.
 23 2012-05-12 00:47:14 <denisx> ok, 4.5. and 8.5.
 24 2012-05-12 00:47:49 <gmaxwell> ????
 25 2012-05-12 00:47:58 <denisx> that are the dates
 26 2012-05-12 00:48:30 <gmaxwell> My hovercraft is full of eels.
 27 2012-05-12 00:49:15 <denisx> 5/4/12 and 5/8/12
 28 2012-05-12 00:49:18 <denisx> better? ;)
 29 2012-05-12 00:49:39 <gmaxwell> ah. Yes.
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 31 2012-05-12 00:50:04 <sipa> and 0.6.2.2 came out today ;)
 32 2012-05-12 00:50:15 <denisx> sipa: what about the 100% cpu bug
 33 2012-05-12 00:50:16 <denisx> ?
 34 2012-05-12 00:50:22 <gmaxwell> Are we even bothering to build that for anything except OSX?
 35 2012-05-12 00:50:41 <gmaxwell> denisx: That OSX 100% cpu bug is fixed by 0.6.2.2.
 36 2012-05-12 00:51:01 <denisx> gmaxwell: I have that bug on freebsd, so it is maybe a BSD bug
 37 2012-05-12 00:51:55 <denisx> I pulled bitcoind some minutes ago and it was not fixed for me
 38 2012-05-12 00:52:17 <gmaxwell> Does compiling the 0.6.2 branch solve it for you?
 39 2012-05-12 00:52:17 <sipa> denisx: 0.6.2.2 fixes it for OSX
 40 2012-05-12 00:52:38 <sipa> but it's in an #ifdef MAC_OSX
 41 2012-05-12 00:52:52 <sipa> so maybe you need to add BSD there
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 43 2012-05-12 00:53:03 <denisx> sipa; ok, I try that
 44 2012-05-12 00:53:12 <sipa> well, fixes... works around it
 45 2012-05-12 00:53:33 <sipa> it's in util.h, the definition of CSemaphore
 46 2012-05-12 00:53:54 Xunie has joined
 47 2012-05-12 00:54:30 * gmaxwell wags his finger at sipa and gavin for cutting a branch release for a fix not in master.
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 49 2012-05-12 01:02:09 * luke-jr thinks gavin should have left stable branching to him :p
 50 2012-05-12 01:04:53 <splatster> My bitcoind has 0 blocks but has > 1 GB datadir.     "blocks" : 0,
 51 2012-05-12 01:05:22 <splatster> Time to get rid of everything besides wallet.dat?
 52 2012-05-12 01:05:33 <gmaxwell> splatster: whats large?
 53 2012-05-12 01:05:51 <gmaxwell> That sounds like you erased your chain but left a big debug log behind, or erased blkindex without erasing the blocks file.
 54 2012-05-12 01:06:38 <splatster> blk0001.dat, 257496 blkindex.dat, 32044 __db.003
 55 2012-05-12 01:06:49 <splatster> those are the three bigest from ls -s
 56 2012-05-12 01:07:57 <splatster> Maybe a corrupt chain or something?
 57 2012-05-12 01:09:24 <splatster> gmaxwell: ^
 58 2012-05-12 01:09:55 <gmaxwell> it would be interesting to see what your debug.log says.
 59 2012-05-12 01:10:03 <gmaxwell> (esp around startup)
 60 2012-05-12 01:11:18 <splatster> 5412 lines
 61 2012-05-12 01:11:37 <gmaxwell> pastebin is your friend.
 62 2012-05-12 01:11:43 <splatster> ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=00000000000000674933
 63 2012-05-12 01:11:43 <splatster> received block 0000000000000452324d
 64 2012-05-12 01:11:49 <splatster> and many similar lines
 65 2012-05-12 01:12:09 <splatster> Maybe I got a hold of a bad chain to start with?
 66 2012-05-12 01:12:26 <gmaxwell> That isn't how it works.
 67 2012-05-12 01:12:27 <splatster> I just started up that client last night.
 68 2012-05-12 01:12:37 <gmaxwell> What version are you running?
 69 2012-05-12 01:12:55 <gmaxwell> in any case, pastebin the whole debug.log please. :)
 70 2012-05-12 01:13:17 <splatster> 0.6.2
 71 2012-05-12 01:13:42 <splatster> How can I pastebin the log if I'm running this on a remote server?
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 73 2012-05-12 01:13:52 <sipa> scp?
 74 2012-05-12 01:13:53 <jgarzik> http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/sq7cy/iama_a_malware_coder_and_botnet_operator_ama/
 75 2012-05-12 01:14:11 <jgarzik> interesting botnetter comments on bitcoin
 76 2012-05-12 01:15:03 <splatster> I've got to go for a bit.
 77 2012-05-12 01:15:17 <splatster> I'll fetch the log and put it on pastebin later
 78 2012-05-12 01:15:33 <gmaxwell> ah, the "Wallet just got emptied" thread on bitcoin talk— turns how he had an exposed rpc port ... for no particular reason.
 79 2012-05-12 01:16:50 <luke-jr> diff of diff of diff is mind boggling
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 81 2012-05-12 01:17:58 <jgarzik> the Internet constantly impresses me with its... biological nature.  Just leave open a port, and eventually _someone_ will probe it, or attempt an infection through it.  Given the breadth of the IPv4 address space, that's pretty impressive.  Tells you how fast computer and networks are these days, too.
 82 2012-05-12 01:17:58 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: hm?
 83 2012-05-12 01:18:19 <jgarzik> sipa: let's pull ipv6
 84 2012-05-12 01:20:10 <gmaxwell> one of the folks that previously got robbed via an open rpc port went scanning around and found a few hundred of them.
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 86 2012-05-12 01:24:33 <sipa> gmaxwell: ok for pulling ipv6?
 87 2012-05-12 01:24:51 <gmaxwell> Yep.
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 89 2012-05-12 01:26:01 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: diff a-a-a a-a-b > a-a; diff a-b-a a-b-b > a-b; diff a-a a-b > a; diff b-a-a b-a-b > b-a; diff b-b-a b-b-b > b-b; diff b-a b-b > b; diff a b
 90 2012-05-12 01:26:51 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: this is the process I use to audit my own rebases and merges :P
 91 2012-05-12 01:27:01 <luke-jr> (though I have it simplified usually)
 92 2012-05-12 01:27:06 <gmaxwell> ++--++- ... is this code or nethack?
 93 2012-05-12 01:27:41 <sipa> ok, ipv6 pulled
 94 2012-05-12 01:27:52 <denisx> sipa: the patch seems to work under FreeBSD too
 95 2012-05-12 01:28:16 <sipa> with BSD, i suppose?
 96 2012-05-12 01:28:24 <denisx> sipa: no, __FreeBSD__
 97 2012-05-12 01:28:28 <denisx> we had that already
 98 2012-05-12 01:28:43 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: only 3 levels of [+-] ;)
 99 2012-05-12 01:28:46 <sipa> i mean, you modified the macro condutions around CSemaphore or not?
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101 2012-05-12 01:30:07 <luke-jr> anyone know if Gavin is done rolling his own stable branch so I can integrate it into the stable repo?
102 2012-05-12 01:31:00 <denisx> sipa: yes, the ifdef before class CSemaphore
103 2012-05-12 01:31:28 <sipa> luke-jr: if a critical issue appeara before 0.7.0 has had enough time to stabilize, there will be another 6.x something
104 2012-05-12 01:31:51 <luke-jr> sipa: yes, but usually that's my dept
105 2012-05-12 01:31:51 <sipa> luke-jr: i'd just start doing backports once the next release is there
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107 2012-05-12 01:33:50 <luke-jr> guess I need to redo my gmp_bip branch first anyway
108 2012-05-12 01:41:33 <jgarzik> w00t
109 2012-05-12 01:41:36 <jgarzik> Added 8 addresses from 2001:470:9ff2:2:0:0:0:12: 26 tried, 9319 new
110 2012-05-12 01:41:36 <jgarzik> Added 12 addresses from 2a02:348:5e:5a29:0:0:0:1: 26 tried, 9324 new
111 2012-05-12 01:42:01 <jgarzik> this is me:
112 2012-05-12 01:42:03 <jgarzik> AddLocal([2001:4830:1603:2:21c:c0ff:fe79:c8c2]:8333,1)
113 2012-05-12 01:42:03 <jgarzik> ipv6 em1: 2001:4830:1603:2:21c:c0ff:fe79:c8c2
114 2012-05-12 01:44:48 <splatster> gmaxwell: Debug.log pastebin: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Tq5QsdF8
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121 2012-05-12 01:48:10 <sipa> jgarzik: connected
122 2012-05-12 01:48:11 <gmaxwell> Bitcoin version vCLIENT_VERSION_MAJOR.CLIENT_VERSION_MINOR.CLIENT_VERSION_REVISION.CLIENT_VERSION_BUILD-g8ff1873-beta ()
123 2012-05-12 01:48:15 <gmaxwell> thats helpful.
124 2012-05-12 01:48:42 <luke-jr> odd, I can't seem to find that branch inserting height into coinbases
125 2012-05-12 01:48:47 <luke-jr> anyone know where it was?
126 2012-05-12 01:49:28 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: 8ff1873 = v0.6.2
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128 2012-05-12 01:49:44 <sipa> gmaxwell: pre-1f5a7cef6f2a
129 2012-05-12 01:50:13 <gmaxwell> sipa: I know
130 2012-05-12 01:50:30 <gmaxwell> splatster: very interesting debug.log.
131 2012-05-12 01:51:17 <splatster> gmaxwell: I'm glad to have made this a little more interesting :)
132 2012-05-12 01:51:49 <splatster> So, should I just leave it as is for now? (in case you want me to run some tests or something)
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134 2012-05-12 01:52:29 <gmaxwell> can you tar up a copy of your .bitcoin directory for me (except the wallet)  I can give you an account to upload it to.
135 2012-05-12 01:53:00 <splatster> The wallet is fresh, so I haven't really used it anyway.
136 2012-05-12 01:53:08 <splatster> I can send you the whole thing.
137 2012-05-12 01:53:13 <gmaxwell> After copying it, shut down cleanly and delete everything except the wallet and config. You're hopelessly corrupted in some crazy unrecoverable way.
138 2012-05-12 01:53:24 <gmaxwell> if it's fresh just delete everything but the config after copying it.
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140 2012-05-12 01:57:54 <jgarzik> sipa: is there a way to dump addrman's state to something vaguely readable?
141 2012-05-12 01:59:16 <luke-jr> jgarzik: do you know any way to grep through all git's objects, including ones unreachable from any ref?
142 2012-05-12 02:04:22 <sipa> jgarzik: nope; good suggestion though
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144 2012-05-12 02:08:02 <jgarzik> luke-jr: I don't know of an easy way...  git's format is of course open, so it is technically possible
145 2012-05-12 02:11:10 <luke-jr> jgarzik: OK, I'm using git-fsck -v to get a list of blobs, then git show|grep in a while loop for now ;)
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148 2012-05-12 02:14:24 <sipa> luke-jr: sounds reasonable
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151 2012-05-12 02:24:44 <twmz> sipa: thanks for fixing the 100% cpu bug
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153 2012-05-12 02:24:57 <twmz> my cpu fan thanks you
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161 2012-05-12 02:46:21 <sipa> jgarzik: see my addrdump branch; call it with -addrdump and it creates a addrdump.txt file
162 2012-05-12 02:49:24 <sipa> twmz: always nice that people thank you for fixing a bug you introduced yourself ;)
163 2012-05-12 02:49:41 <gmaxwell> hm. is -connect=127.0.0.1 supposted to result in it trying every port one at a time?
164 2012-05-12 02:50:01 <gmaxwell> 05/12/12 02:46:35 accepted connection 127.0.0.1:53321
165 2012-05-12 02:50:01 <gmaxwell> 05/12/12 02:46:35 connected to self at 127.0.0.1:53321, disconnecting
166 2012-05-12 02:50:01 <gmaxwell> 05/12/12 02:46:35 disconnecting node 127.0.0.1:53321
167 2012-05-12 02:50:09 <sipa> ewww
168 2012-05-12 02:50:11 <gmaxwell> 05/12/12 02:46:40 accepted connection 127.0.0.1:53322
169 2012-05-12 02:50:11 <gmaxwell> 05/12/12 02:46:40 connected to self at 127.0.0.1:53322, disconnecting
170 2012-05-12 02:50:11 <gmaxwell> 05/12/12 02:46:40 disconnecting node 127.0.0.1:53322
171 2012-05-12 02:50:16 <sipa> wth?
172 2012-05-12 02:50:23 * gmaxwell wonders where the unitilized memory is...
173 2012-05-12 02:51:30 <luke-jr> O.o
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175 2012-05-12 02:52:49 <jgarzik> sipa: groovy
176 2012-05-12 02:53:07 <luke-jr> blob: eef10f73f0d35df7013161464ee8aa6adbebcddd
177 2012-05-12 02:53:13 * luke-jr starts grepping trees for it…
178 2012-05-12 03:05:58 <sipa> luke-jr: what's that?
179 2012-05-12 03:06:03 <sipa> looks like an old source tree?
180 2012-05-12 03:06:31 <sipa> no, rpc
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182 2012-05-12 03:07:52 <sipa> and not really old
183 2012-05-12 03:08:20 <luke-jr> sipa: I'm hoping it's the "add height to coinbase" branch
184 2012-05-12 03:09:14 <sipa> gmaxwell: nothing unusual with valgrind
185 2012-05-12 03:09:18 <sipa> i'll try to find it tomorrow
186 2012-05-12 03:09:40 <gmaxwell> sipa: nor sgcheck.
187 2012-05-12 03:09:53 <gmaxwell> sipa: I feel like we've had this bug before, when you did the last networking refactor.
188 2012-05-12 03:10:01 <gmaxwell> e.g. stuff without ports was getting 0 or something.
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190 2012-05-12 03:24:09 <luke-jr> commit: 6c75f6ce85b0bf2ba38aca7e7248d627fc79c6fc
191 2012-05-12 03:24:45 <luke-jr> aha, it's gavin/discourageblocks XD
192 2012-05-12 03:27:56 <gmaxwell> sipa: ignore the connect weirdness. It's just reporting the source port. Just looks a bit confusin when the destination it tries to connect to isn't showin the implict port number.
193 2012-05-12 03:39:50 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: fanquake reopened pull request 1264 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1264> || fanquake opened pull request 1264 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1264>
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195 2012-05-12 03:45:05 <splatster> Where are those blockchain uploads? Are they still okay to use with 0.6.2? (I remember something about the datadir not being portable)
196 2012-05-12 03:47:09 <gmaxwell> splatster: 0.6 syncs much faster than prior versions, unless you get unluck to get a slow peer it shouldn't be faster to http pull them... and the blockchain downloads are risky to the network because they don't get locally validated.
197 2012-05-12 03:47:47 <gmaxwell> (meaning if the source gets some data corruption every node with the corrupted downloads will simultaniously join a fork when triggered by accident or malice)
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199 2012-05-12 03:49:27 <splatster> Ah, ok
200 2012-05-12 04:09:34 <gmaxwell> 05/12/12 04:06:47 connected [2001:4830:1603:2:21c:c0ff:fe79:c8c2]:8333
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202 2012-05-12 04:11:05 <gmaxwell> interesting, I addnoded three IPv6 nodes and I see it only trying one of them.
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217 2012-05-12 04:17:37 <gmaxwell> aww
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227 2012-05-12 04:47:56 <Cory> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=81045.msg895867#msg895867 Wow. Binary message encoded in transactions including the stolen Bitcoinica funds says "expect mass leak soon".
228 2012-05-12 04:49:31 <ThomasV> lol
229 2012-05-12 04:50:02 <Cory> Come on. This is super exciting.
230 2012-05-12 04:50:05 <ThomasV> FROM THE DESK OF TOM WILLIAMS... EXPECT MASS LEAK SOON!!
231 2012-05-12 04:50:58 <ThomasV> I agree that speaking funds are exciting
232 2012-05-12 04:50:59 <BlueMatt> well, better sell all your bitcoins now, some random scripkiddie hacker write a message on a bulletin board saying something cryptic
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235 2012-05-12 04:55:23 <jgarzik> if the exchanges got together and refused to accept all coins stemming from the theft...  life would be interesting
236 2012-05-12 04:57:53 <Cory> I think MtGox required AML verification for accounts touched by coins from the last Bitcoinica theft.
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238 2012-05-12 05:01:05 <ThomasV> the nice thing about bitcoin theft is that the more common they are, the less we hear about them in the media
239 2012-05-12 05:02:08 <ThomasV> unfortunately, this might change with speaking funds
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245 2012-05-12 05:45:42 <jgarzik> hrm
246 2012-05-12 05:45:54 <jgarzik> I do not think we need -every- block header in RAM at all times
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293 2012-05-12 07:35:58 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: laanwj opened pull request 1265 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1265>
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329 2012-05-12 09:13:18 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: Diapolo opened pull request 1266 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1266>
330 2012-05-12 09:18:22 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: Diapolo opened pull request 1268 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1268> || Diapolo opened pull request 1267 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1267>
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346 2012-05-12 10:45:15 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: laanwj opened pull request 1269 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1269>
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356 2012-05-12 11:21:26 <D34TH> i was wondering if anyone could help me compiling, i grabbed the latest git and  its is throwing
357 2012-05-12 11:21:33 <D34TH> mingw32-make.exe[1]: *** [C:/Users/D34TH/Documents/bitcoin/build/build.h] Error 1
358 2012-05-12 11:22:09 <freewil> whats the actual error
359 2012-05-12 11:22:13 <D34TH> The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect
360 2012-05-12 11:23:54 <freewil> oh
361 2012-05-12 11:24:03 <freewil> looks like the spaces in "Documents and Settings" is the issue?
362 2012-05-12 11:24:16 <D34TH> nah windows  7 its just documents
363 2012-05-12 11:24:19 <freewil> oh
364 2012-05-12 11:24:36 <freewil> do they need to be backslashes then
365 2012-05-12 11:24:39 <freewil> \
366 2012-05-12 11:24:48 <D34TH> wouldnt know where to set it
367 2012-05-12 11:24:53 <D34TH> but either way works
368 2012-05-12 11:25:10 <D34TH> i think it needs to be two //s because of windows
369 2012-05-12 11:26:35 <freewil> do you have all those include paths in the makefile.mingw
370 2012-05-12 11:26:42 <freewil> "C:\boost-1.47.0-mgw"
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372 2012-05-12 11:27:38 <D34TH> all the libs are installed in the qtmingw
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374 2012-05-12 11:29:28 <freewil> yeah not sure
375 2012-05-12 11:29:32 <freewil> just throwing out some suggestions
376 2012-05-12 11:29:36 <D34TH> no problem
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378 2012-05-12 11:32:48 <sipa> try creating an empty build\build.h file
379 2012-05-12 11:33:39 <D34TH> tried
380 2012-05-12 11:34:21 <Tykling> hello guys, does anyone know what exit code 6 when calling bitcoind command line with rpc password means ?
381 2012-05-12 11:35:05 <Tykling> the calls are automated in a script, all the calls return exit code 0, except for this one which returned 6, and the BTC didn't actually get transferred
382 2012-05-12 11:35:27 <sipa> it probably means failed to create transaction
383 2012-05-12 11:35:30 <D34TH> i think im going to attempt to crosscompile it instead
384 2012-05-12 11:35:31 <sipa> but let me look it up
385 2012-05-12 11:35:43 <Tykling> sipa: oh ok, thanks
386 2012-05-12 11:36:04 <freewil> Tykling, what command
387 2012-05-12 11:36:08 <sipa> account has insufficient funds
388 2012-05-12 11:36:17 <Tykling> sipa: really ? lol
389 2012-05-12 11:36:30 <sipa> yes
390 2012-05-12 11:37:00 <sipa> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#L1102
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399 2012-05-12 11:47:54 <Tykling> sipa: awesome, thanks for the link and info
400 2012-05-12 11:47:57 <DiabloD3> so when is 0.7.0 coming out?
401 2012-05-12 11:48:24 <D34TH> will windows get ipv6 support?
402 2012-05-12 11:48:41 <Tykling> windows already has ipv6 support! ;)
403 2012-05-12 11:48:54 <D34TH> really? i never see any ipv6 connections
404 2012-05-12 11:54:19 <Tykling> D34TH: nevermind, a poor attempt at humor from my side
405 2012-05-12 11:54:21 <Tykling> :)
406 2012-05-12 11:54:29 <D34TH> D:
407 2012-05-12 11:54:47 <Tykling> in my defence it is still early-ish here
408 2012-05-12 11:57:24 <D34TH> heh cant wait to see HE love everyone  signing up for ipv6
409 2012-05-12 12:01:27 <DiabloD3> D34TH: um
410 2012-05-12 12:01:30 <DiabloD3> why would you need HE?
411 2012-05-12 12:01:42 <DiabloD3> the internet natively routes ipv6 for ipv4-only connections
412 2012-05-12 12:01:55 <DiabloD3> read the RFC for it
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416 2012-05-12 12:04:07 <sipa> D34TH: windows has ipv6 support since XP
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418 2012-05-12 12:04:31 <sipa> of course, your ISP needs to provide you with an IPv6 address
419 2012-05-12 12:05:41 <D34TH_> well that was fun
420 2012-05-12 12:05:43 <DiabloD3> [07:59:17] <DiabloD3> the internet natively routes ipv6 for ipv4-only connections
421 2012-05-12 12:05:44 <DiabloD3> [07:59:29] <DiabloD3> read the RFC for it
422 2012-05-12 12:05:52 <DiabloD3> the internet already provided you with a ipv6 address
423 2012-05-12 12:05:55 <DiabloD3> your ISP cant stop you
424 2012-05-12 12:06:08 <sipa> do you mean an IPv4-mapped address?
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426 2012-05-12 12:06:12 <sipa> or Teredo?
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430 2012-05-12 12:06:32 <DiabloD3> 6in4 anycast
431 2012-05-12 12:06:47 <D34TH> squirrel knocked my cable out
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445 2012-05-12 12:47:44 <luke-jr> DiabloD3: ISPs sure can block 6to4
446 2012-05-12 12:47:57 <luke-jr> sipa: Windows has automatically set up Teredo tunnels since 7ish
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449 2012-05-12 12:53:40 <sipa> luke-jr: really? nice
450 2012-05-12 12:54:36 <da2ce7> sipa: yep windows 7 has great ipv6 support... it is used by-default in-between windows boxes on LAN.
451 2012-05-12 12:55:07 <da2ce7> so much easier to setup ipv6 windows interenal network than a ipv4
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453 2012-05-12 12:58:03 <sipa> i guess i'll compile a master with ipv6 support for windows users to test
454 2012-05-12 13:01:16 <D34TH> <--- will test
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456 2012-05-12 13:04:55 <da2ce7> me2
457 2012-05-12 13:05:04 <jine> sipa: Sure they can, just filter proto-41 and you've killed 6to4. But to block teredo you'll have to do some packet inspection of udp-packages...
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462 2012-05-12 13:21:35 <DiabloD3> [08:45:19] <luke-jr> DiabloD3: ISPs sure can block 6to4
463 2012-05-12 13:21:40 <DiabloD3> not without violating peering contracts.
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468 2012-05-12 13:39:11 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: laanwj opened pull request 1270 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1270>
469 2012-05-12 13:44:35 <Joric> zhou pls reopen bitcoinica for a minute i promise i won't withdraw everything and run away
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478 2012-05-12 14:04:22 <sipa> Joric: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/shatest/test.html
479 2012-05-12 14:04:38 <sipa> that's a hmac sha512 javascript test
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481 2012-05-12 14:05:00 <sipa> do you know of faster ones?
482 2012-05-12 14:05:30 <Joric> sipa, i only know http://jssha.sourceforge.net
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484 2012-05-12 14:05:44 <da2ce7> 1198 op/s
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486 2012-05-12 14:06:51 <D34TH> Iterations per second: 10080.03992015968
487 2012-05-12 14:06:52 <D34TH> :O
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489 2012-05-12 14:08:27 <da2ce7> FF is the fastest for me at 8.5K
490 2012-05-12 14:08:29 <Joric> Iterations per second: 1215.0668286755772, chrome 18, celeron 550
491 2012-05-12 14:08:36 <sipa> my phone does 65
492 2012-05-12 14:08:45 <sipa> ff on my laptop 9500
493 2012-05-12 14:08:59 <Joric> http://bitcoin.sipa.be/shatest/test.html ff, same system
494 2012-05-12 14:09:15 <D34TH> mine was on ff
495 2012-05-12 14:09:15 <Joric> ff is faster it's a miracle
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499 2012-05-12 14:09:47 <sipa> i copies jssha, i think
500 2012-05-12 14:09:53 <D34TH> chrome 20 is a tad bit slower than chrome 18
501 2012-05-12 14:09:53 <sipa> copied
502 2012-05-12 14:10:09 <Joric> * Iterations per second: 5063.291139240507 ff, same system
503 2012-05-12 14:10:16 <sipa> openssl is 50* faster than javascript/ff here
504 2012-05-12 14:10:25 <Joric> ff won't copy window content on ctrl+c
505 2012-05-12 14:11:14 <D34TH> rightclick copy?
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507 2012-05-12 14:11:24 <Joric> sipa, is it going to be 25k+ rounds as in bitcoin-qt?
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509 2012-05-12 14:14:14 <sipa> Joric: i'm thinking about a wallet-masterkey-from-seed system that works with potentially short seeds (min 128 bit), that uses strengthening and checking
510 2012-05-12 14:15:01 <sipa> generating one would take 64k+ iterations, but recovering a master only 256+
511 2012-05-12 14:16:35 <sipa> with these speeds doing generation in JS would be very slow unfortunately, but deriving would at least be doable
512 2012-05-12 14:16:37 <da2ce7> sipa why not use a non-fixed defined number of rounds... something like 'sha512 untill the first 3bytes are zero'  or is that less secure.
513 2012-05-12 14:17:00 <sipa> da2ce7: it would be comparable to that
514 2012-05-12 14:20:17 <da2ce7> that means that I could choose to make a 'fast' root-key for my phone... and a 'secure' root-key for my desktop computer.
515 2012-05-12 14:20:35 <da2ce7> *since I only store smaller ammounts of bitcoins on my phone.
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519 2012-05-12 14:28:40 <luke-jr> [13:19:15] <DiabloD3> not without violating peering contracts. <-- ISPs block stuff all the time without violating peering contracts
520 2012-05-12 14:29:36 <DiabloD3> luke-jr: you cant block the _internet_ however
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523 2012-05-12 14:37:23 <sipa> da2ce7: idea is this: iterate 256 times (HMAC-SHA512); if the first 8 bits end up being zero, use the 255th iteration as master key
524 2012-05-12 14:37:43 <sipa> if not, continue iterating to 512 times; if that ends up with 9 bits zero, use the 511th iterations
525 2012-05-12 14:38:00 <sipa> and so on with 1024/10/1023, 2048/11/2047, ...
526 2012-05-12 14:38:29 <da2ce7> so I can choose a key at strength 256, 512...
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529 2012-05-12 14:39:50 <sipa> da2ce7: well, creating/brute-forcing a (2^N iterations, N zeroes) key requires 4^N iterations
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537 2012-05-12 14:50:18 <Joric> the splash is really ugly :)
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539 2012-05-12 15:01:38 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: rebroad opened pull request 1271 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1271>
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541 2012-05-12 15:07:30 <jgarzik> quote
542 2012-05-12 15:07:32 <jgarzik> This line does not compile on Windows in Qt Creator :-/.
543 2012-05-12 15:07:32 <jgarzik> <pre>
544 2012-05-12 15:07:33 <jgarzik> src\init.cpp: In function 'bool AppInit2(int, char**)':
545 2012-05-12 15:07:33 <jgarzik> src\init.cpp:617: error: 'S_un' was not declared in this scope
546 2012-05-12 15:08:08 <jgarzik> sipa: ^^   I think you will have to define a var, uninitialized, and then assign foo.s_addr = INADDR_ANY
547 2012-05-12 15:08:38 <jgarzik> sipa: it is implemented as a union w/ cpp macros quite often, so initialization during declaration may cause problems
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549 2012-05-12 15:09:40 <sipa> ah
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566 2012-05-12 15:39:40 <sipa> gmaxwell: found your strange incrementing ports problem:
567 2012-05-12 15:39:54 <sipa> that is a message from the connect accept code: it reports the source address
568 2012-05-12 15:40:28 <sipa> and your OS is trying from subsequent source ports
569 2012-05-12 15:40:40 <sipa> the destination port is 8333, but isn't outputted anywhere
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574 2012-05-12 15:52:06 <splatster> Any reason I'd be unable to connect to bitcoind via rpc besides bad user name and password?
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578 2012-05-12 16:02:47 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: sipa opened pull request 1272 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1272>
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581 2012-05-12 16:07:26 <luke-jr> ugh, 0.6.0 takes forever to sync
582 2012-05-12 16:11:58 <D34TH> ^
583 2012-05-12 16:12:23 <sipa> then use 0.6.2 :p
584 2012-05-12 16:12:51 <luke-jr> sipa: I'm writing my changes on 0.6.0 so I can merge them into Eligius :p
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586 2012-05-12 16:12:58 <luke-jr> (and merging up to master for pullreq ofc)
587 2012-05-12 16:13:07 <D34TH> 0.6.0.3
588 2012-05-12 16:13:09 <D34TH> still slow
589 2012-05-12 16:13:18 <luke-jr> D34TH: isn't that a known-broken version?
590 2012-05-12 16:13:23 <D34TH> idk
591 2012-05-12 16:13:27 <sipa> D34TH: why do you keep an old, superceded, broken release-candidate?
592 2012-05-12 16:13:41 <D34TH> i forget to update
593 2012-05-12 16:13:43 <luke-jr> D34TH: at least upgrade to 0.6.0.7
594 2012-05-12 16:13:50 <luke-jr> ideally 0.6.2
595 2012-05-12 16:13:57 <D34TH> or i put it on a list and never get that far down the list
596 2012-05-12 16:13:57 <sipa> D34TH: if you don't like updating, don't run a release candidate
597 2012-05-12 16:14:22 <sipa> it's always likely to have bugs that are quickly fixed
598 2012-05-12 16:14:25 <splatster> Do you guys know what I should do?
599 2012-05-12 16:14:38 <luke-jr> splatster: file a police report
600 2012-05-12 16:14:39 <sipa> splatster: i'm not clairvoyant
601 2012-05-12 16:14:45 <luke-jr> sipa: why not?
602 2012-05-12 16:14:49 <splatster> [9:49 AM] <splatster> Any reason I'd be unable to connect to bitcoind via rpc besides bad user name and password?
603 2012-05-12 16:14:56 <luke-jr> oh, that
604 2012-05-12 16:15:10 <sipa> splatster: anything in debug.log? or it just doesn't connect?
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606 2012-05-12 16:15:20 <luke-jr> splatster: if you try to connect over IPv6 (default for localhost on modern OS), it fails
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608 2012-05-12 16:15:37 <splatster> sipa: I'm trying to connect via a script.
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612 2012-05-12 16:15:48 <splatster> using the jsonrpc api
613 2012-05-12 16:16:01 <luke-jr> splatster: try 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost
614 2012-05-12 16:16:10 <splatster> U'm not using localhost.
615 2012-05-12 16:16:14 <luke-jr> …
616 2012-05-12 16:16:14 <D34TH> installing 0.6.2
617 2012-05-12 16:16:15 <D34TH> :D
618 2012-05-12 16:16:23 <splatster> I'm*
619 2012-05-12 16:16:24 <luke-jr> splatster: never expose bitcoind to a network
620 2012-05-12 16:16:33 <splatster> ok...
621 2012-05-12 16:16:35 <luke-jr> that's asking to be hacked
622 2012-05-12 16:17:25 <splatster> Wow, that fixed it.
623 2012-05-12 16:17:31 <splatster> *facepalm*
624 2012-05-12 16:17:33 <luke-jr> ?
625 2012-05-12 16:17:36 * splatster feels retarded
626 2012-05-12 16:17:41 <splatster> [10:13 AM] <luke-jr> splatster: try 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost
627 2012-05-12 16:17:56 <splatster> Except I was using the actual IP of the server, not localhost, before that.
628 2012-05-12 16:18:16 <luke-jr> oh, well that *shouldn't* work
629 2012-05-12 16:18:17 <splatster> Thanks, luke-jr.
630 2012-05-12 16:18:29 <luke-jr> it's not listening on the IP, only localhost
631 2012-05-12 16:18:32 <splatster> Well, it -did- work.
632 2012-05-12 16:18:41 <luke-jr> O.o
633 2012-05-12 16:22:12 <D34TH> well
634 2012-05-12 16:22:19 <D34TH> now that i updated that was a quick sync
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636 2012-05-12 16:27:18 <luke-jr> still too slow -.-
637 2012-05-12 16:27:42 <luke-jr> and I'm not even syncing from scratch
638 2012-05-12 16:29:40 <luke-jr> sipa: btw, what did you think about moving -loadblock after wallet load?
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640 2012-05-12 16:32:53 <sipa> luke-jr: fine by me
641 2012-05-12 16:33:33 <luke-jr> sipa: would it perhaps make sense to move it to after the GUI is started?
642 2012-05-12 16:33:34 <sipa> luke-jr: though you'd need to make sure it doesn't continuously update the bestblock in wallet while loading
643 2012-05-12 16:33:41 <luke-jr> o
644 2012-05-12 16:37:06 <luke-jr> sipa: is it really faster to load blocks, then rescan; compared to scan while loading?
645 2012-05-12 16:37:22 <Joric> what's detach databases on shutdown? i have no idea
646 2012-05-12 16:37:39 <luke-jr> Joric: allows you to move blkindex.dat around
647 2012-05-12 16:37:55 <luke-jr> Joric: without it, blkindex.dat is locked to the directory it's in
648 2012-05-12 16:38:09 <luke-jr> detaching is much slow tho
649 2012-05-12 16:38:58 <sipa> luke-jr: load + rescan will almost certainly be (marginally) slower than scan while loading
650 2012-05-12 16:39:17 <luke-jr> sipa: to scan while loading, requires updating bestblock, no?
651 2012-05-12 16:39:27 <Joric> locked to the directory? how's that? i thought it's related only to the blk000x.dat
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653 2012-05-12 16:39:34 <sipa> luke-jr: no
654 2012-05-12 16:39:37 <luke-jr> I suppose we could update bestblock only when something is found…
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656 2012-05-12 16:39:45 <luke-jr> Joric: the database/ subdir
657 2012-05-12 16:40:00 <sipa> luke-jr: bestblock is not updated during initian sync either (i think it should do that every 10k blocks maybe still though)
658 2012-05-12 16:40:10 <luke-jr> Joric: detaching merges stuff from database/ into *.dat
659 2012-05-12 16:40:28 <Joric> most confusing option ever!
660 2012-05-12 16:40:28 <luke-jr> sipa: wouldn't that corrupt the wallet? O.o
661 2012-05-12 16:40:37 <sipa> luke-jr: no
662 2012-05-12 16:40:50 <luke-jr> sipa: ie, if it scans a txn, adds that, but doesn't update bestblock, it will scan it again…
663 2012-05-12 16:41:07 <sipa> luke-jr: yes, so?
664 2012-05-12 16:41:16 <sipa> that's not efficient, but it is not wrong
665 2012-05-12 16:41:26 <luke-jr> oh
666 2012-05-12 16:41:36 <Joric> gavin, why you even ack'd this option
667 2012-05-12 16:41:52 <luke-jr> Joric: skipping the detach = instant shutdown
668 2012-05-12 16:42:02 <luke-jr> Joric: detach takes a minute or so
669 2012-05-12 16:42:18 <luke-jr> (wallet.dat is always detached)
670 2012-05-12 16:43:02 <kinlo> so after a proper detach, one can safely delete database/* ?
671 2012-05-12 16:43:06 <sipa> kinlo: yes
672 2012-05-12 16:43:55 <sipa> it's quite black and write: did a detach -> you can delete/move database files; if you did not detach, but move/delete files, it will almost certainly fail to load afterwards
673 2012-05-12 16:44:12 * sipa likes determinism
674 2012-05-12 16:44:57 <luke-jr> what if you kill -9 during detach?
675 2012-05-12 16:44:58 <luke-jr> <.<
676 2012-05-12 16:45:22 <sipa> no idea; i expect potential corruption
677 2012-05-12 16:45:25 <Joric> i see shutdown takes a while even without detaching
678 2012-05-12 16:45:37 <sipa> Joric: were you syncing the blockchain?
679 2012-05-12 16:45:41 <Joric> yes
680 2012-05-12 16:45:54 <sipa> in that case it's normal; there are logs that have to be flushed
681 2012-05-12 16:46:08 <sipa> but in normal operation, it's almost instantaneous to shutdown
682 2012-05-12 16:46:39 <Joric> those logs looks like binary data are they, like, transactions?
683 2012-05-12 16:46:48 <luke-jr> …
684 2012-05-12 16:47:00 <kinlo> I like the not-having-to-detach
685 2012-05-12 16:47:12 <kinlo> I've upgraded my bitcoins with minimal downtime this week
686 2012-05-12 16:47:13 <sipa> Joric: database transaction logs, yes
687 2012-05-12 16:47:13 <Joric> log.0000* what's there
688 2012-05-12 16:47:20 <Joric> ok
689 2012-05-12 16:47:30 <kinlo> normally, it would be a downtime of several minutes
690 2012-05-12 16:48:20 <luke-jr> catching up a month takes forever even with -loadblock -.-
691 2012-05-12 16:48:38 <luke-jr> kinlo: I like Eloipool not caring about bitcoind being down :P
692 2012-05-12 16:49:03 <luke-jr> well, besides spamming you with errors
693 2012-05-12 16:49:17 <kinlo> luke-jr: actually, if your bitcoind is down for 2-3 minutes, you might be *very* late with that new-block-longpoll :)
694 2012-05-12 16:49:28 <luke-jr> kinlo: yes, but assuming no new block
695 2012-05-12 16:49:29 <kinlo> but indeed, I have no difficulties upgrading bitcoind nowadays
696 2012-05-12 16:49:51 <kinlo> and I like the code is written to keep trying to submit a block in case bitcoind is down
697 2012-05-12 16:50:18 <luke-jr> kinlo: I recently added a check for bitcoind's return value, so if it fails for any reason, it critical-logs :P
698 2012-05-12 16:50:33 <luke-jr> I didn't like the silent invalid blocks thing
699 2012-05-12 16:50:42 <kinlo> but it will still retry right?
700 2012-05-12 16:50:45 <luke-jr> yes
701 2012-05-12 16:50:46 <luke-jr> well
702 2012-05-12 16:50:48 <kinlo> in case bitcoind is down
703 2012-05-12 16:50:51 <luke-jr> it won't retry if bitcoind rejects it
704 2012-05-12 16:50:57 <luke-jr> but any other case, it still retries
705 2012-05-12 16:51:14 <kinlo> if the bitcoind properly rejects it you mean, not if there was a generic submitting error
706 2012-05-12 16:51:21 <luke-jr> right
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708 2012-05-12 16:51:38 <luke-jr> I need to add support for secondary submission…
709 2012-05-12 16:51:44 <kinlo> luke-jr: I'd still like some kind of email-me-in-case-of-critical
710 2012-05-12 16:51:50 <luke-jr> (so gmp miners can submit to their own bitocind too)
711 2012-05-12 16:51:54 <luke-jr> kinlo: yes, me too
712 2012-05-12 16:52:09 <luke-jr> but I'm more interested in XMPP
713 2012-05-12 16:52:09 <kinlo> coz I do scroll up to see if I missed anything
714 2012-05-12 16:52:35 <kinlo> but I missed the missed blocks, which is terrible :(
715 2012-05-12 16:52:44 * luke-jr thinks it'd be good to write all logs to a file too
716 2012-05-12 16:53:50 <Joric> this is not very readable... http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/581/screenshot2012051222501.png
717 2012-05-12 16:54:06 <Joric> i'd say original design decision
718 2012-05-12 16:54:18 <sipa> Joric: on many architectures it looks very good
719 2012-05-12 16:54:19 <luke-jr> lol
720 2012-05-12 16:54:51 <sipa> there was a former implementation that fixed the style completely, but some preferred having it look natively
721 2012-05-12 16:55:03 <sipa> seems that natively doesn't work with all color schemes :)
722 2012-05-12 16:55:24 <sipa> (i wanted it fixed, as it looked terrible here too)
723 2012-05-12 16:56:47 <kinlo> actually, it seems to be broken for me
724 2012-05-12 16:56:55 <kinlo> but perhaps I should upgrade bitcoin first
725 2012-05-12 16:57:23 <kinlo> it doesn't fill the progressbar anymore
726 2012-05-12 16:57:38 <sipa> ?
727 2012-05-12 16:57:53 <kinlo> lemme first upgrade this client :)
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729 2012-05-12 16:59:59 <luke-jr> sipa: a smart algorithm to detect ugliness and adjust it minimally to look reasonable would be best, but it seems like a lot of effort for the bike shed :P
730 2012-05-12 17:00:24 <luke-jr> eg, in Joric's case, make it solid darkblue, and text white
731 2012-05-12 17:00:58 <luke-jr> actually, maybe it'd make it a lighter blue
732 2012-05-12 17:01:39 <luke-jr> ;;bc,blocks
733 2012-05-12 17:01:40 <gribble> 179858
734 2012-05-12 17:01:44 <luke-jr> ugh, SLOW
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736 2012-05-12 17:09:06 <Joric> it's white with a gray shadow on active window and reversed on inactive one
737 2012-05-12 17:09:44 * luke-jr -.-
738 2012-05-12 17:10:09 <Joric> i believe text is not supposed to be there at all
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740 2012-05-12 17:12:12 <Joric> though i don't really use classic theme just switched on it for a while, it looks fine with the default theme
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743 2012-05-12 17:20:30 <jgarzik> sipa: might go along with your original suggestion RE ipaddr.dat.  I think I'll rewrite CAddrDB in an additional commit, moving CAddrman::{read,write}todisk into CAddrDB
744 2012-05-12 17:20:47 <jgarzik> sipa: later we can work on doing same with CBlock
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778 2012-05-12 19:49:21 <sipa> jgarzik: ACK
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785 2012-05-12 20:19:25 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: msva opened issue 1273 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1273>
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789 2012-05-12 20:29:55 <luke-jr> fun, I can't build master
790 2012-05-12 20:30:03 * luke-jr looks for someone to blame
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793 2012-05-12 20:36:48 <luke-jr> f621326c24791be14aa61221f7e35530378b84d8 is the first bad commit
794 2012-05-12 20:36:53 <luke-jr> sipa: plz fix :p
795 2012-05-12 20:37:59 <luke-jr>     * Remove xCXXFLAGS usage in makefile.unix
796 2012-05-12 20:38:06 <luke-jr> ^ there's a reason that was there
797 2012-05-12 20:38:43 <sipa> ~ah?
798 2012-05-12 20:39:24 <sipa> CXXFLAGS isn't used anywhere, not even by implicit rules
799 2012-05-12 20:39:27 <luke-jr> sipa: CXXFLAGS proper is overridden by OS
800 2012-05-12 20:39:47 <terry> Can we fix the typo in the topic? "Ask, dont ask to ask."
801 2012-05-12 20:39:47 <sipa> yes, so?
802 2012-05-12 20:39:59 <luke-jr> sipa: so whatever you set CXXFLAGS to in the makefile is ignored pretty much
803 2012-05-12 20:40:09 <sipa> huh?
804 2012-05-12 20:40:13 <sipa> that sounds wrong
805 2012-05-12 20:40:29 <luke-jr> sipa: CXXFLAGS comes from the OS, and the value it's set to in the makefile is ignored
806 2012-05-12 20:40:36 <sipa> it should provide a default
807 2012-05-12 20:41:10 <luke-jr> yes, but you've moved the mandatory-for-compile flags into default-but-overridden-by-OS
808 2012-05-12 20:41:28 <luke-jr> xCXXFLAGS was mandatory + OS provided
809 2012-05-12 20:41:58 <luke-jr> so now when I go to compile, all those mandatory flags are omitted
810 2012-05-12 20:42:14 <sipa> it sounds very broken to me that an OS would override CXXFLAGS
811 2012-05-12 20:42:20 <luke-jr> that's standard behaviour
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814 2012-05-12 20:43:42 <sipa> i think the only proper solution is using a build system that allows configuring some options
815 2012-05-12 20:44:00 <luke-jr> build system would do the same thing
816 2012-05-12 20:44:06 <luke-jr> there wasn't a problem before…
817 2012-05-12 20:44:17 <luke-jr> "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" :p
818 2012-05-12 20:44:38 <sipa> to me, if your OS overrides CXXFLAGS set explicitly in a makefile, that is broken
819 2012-05-12 20:44:47 <sipa> i don't even see how it can do that
820 2012-05-12 20:44:56 <luke-jr> make -f makefile.unix CXXFLAGS="…"
821 2012-05-12 20:45:06 <sipa> then don't call it that way
822 2012-05-12 20:45:21 <luke-jr> that's how you're supposed to pass additional C++ compile flags
823 2012-05-12 20:45:31 <sipa> additional ones
824 2012-05-12 20:45:46 <luke-jr> yes, and you've made it so doing so *deletes* the mandatory ones… :p
825 2012-05-12 20:45:50 <sipa> maybe we can turn it into CXXFLAGS=$CXXFLAGS {our options}
826 2012-05-12 20:45:58 <luke-jr> that's what xCXXFLAGS did
827 2012-05-12 20:46:06 <luke-jr> (except in the opposite order, which is proper0
828 2012-05-12 20:48:06 <luke-jr> automake would yield ${bitcoind_CXXFLAGS} ${AM_CXXFLAGS} ${CXXFLAGS} :P
829 2012-05-12 20:48:27 <sipa> ok
830 2012-05-12 20:51:32 <sipa> now i understand; it's not that CXXFLAGS gets overridden, it is the fact that you should use the passed CXXFLAGS as a default
831 2012-05-12 20:52:56 <luke-jr> O.o
832 2012-05-12 20:53:49 <sipa> i'm right, no?
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834 2012-05-12 20:53:59 <luke-jr> there is no way to assign to CXXFLAGS that won't get ignored
835 2012-05-12 20:54:10 <sipa> sure, i understand now
836 2012-05-12 20:54:29 <luke-jr> and the passed CXXFLAGS should override the makefile-provided flags
837 2012-05-12 20:54:36 <sipa> but you saying "CXXFLAGS gets overridden by the OS" confused me; it doesn't get overridden at all, but it does get passed in
838 2012-05-12 20:54:55 <luke-jr> OK, but the OS or OS build system passes it in, in most cases
839 2012-05-12 20:55:15 <luke-jr> and it does override
840 2012-05-12 20:55:18 <sipa> yes, the problem is that the current makefile does not accept a CXXFLAGS to configure its own
841 2012-05-12 20:55:26 <sipa> CXXFLAGS=blabla make ...
842 2012-05-12 20:55:33 <sipa> blabla gets ignored
843 2012-05-12 20:55:38 <luke-jr> make CXXFLAGS=blabla <-- correct way
844 2012-05-12 20:55:42 <luke-jr> no, blabla doesn't get ignored
845 2012-05-12 20:55:45 <luke-jr> it replaces all the flags we need
846 2012-05-12 20:56:00 <luke-jr> what it should be (for me): g++ -c -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wno-sign-compare -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-unused-parameter -Wformat -Wformat-security -ggdb  -I/home/luke-jr/Projects/Education/Tonal/BitCoin/bitcoin/src -I/home/luke-jr/Projects/Education/Tonal/BitCoin/bitcoin/src/obj -I/usr/include/db4.8/ -DUSE_UPNP=0 -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-z,now -D_FORTIFY_
847 2012-05-12 20:56:02 <luke-jr> SOURCE=2 -O0 -MMD -o obj/checkpoints.o checkpoints.cpp
848 2012-05-12 20:56:09 <luke-jr> what it is now: g++ -c -O0 -MMD -o obj/checkpoints.o checkpoints.cpp
849 2012-05-12 20:56:37 <sipa> oh, yes, if you pass it after makefile it does get ignored
850 2012-05-12 20:56:38 <sipa> hmm
851 2012-05-12 20:56:43 <sipa> eh, it does override
852 2012-05-12 20:57:02 <sipa> i didn't know that; seems strange to me
853 2012-05-12 20:57:37 <luke-jr> it'd be nice if this worked: CXXFLAGS = foo bar $(CXXFLAGS)
854 2012-05-12 20:57:39 <luke-jr> but it doesn't
855 2012-05-12 20:57:42 <sipa> indeed
856 2012-05-12 20:58:25 <sipa> i assumed the xCXXFLAGS was there because there were some other source files that used the implicit build rule, and didn't need the bitcoin-specific ones
857 2012-05-12 20:58:51 <sipa> but after not finding anything that needed CXXFLAGS except xCXXFLAGS, that seemed obsolete
858 2012-05-12 20:59:31 <luke-jr> fun experiment: CXXFLAGS = $(shell ls >&2) foo
859 2012-05-12 20:59:41 <luke-jr> it seems Make is skipping any assignment lines at all
860 2012-05-12 20:59:51 <luke-jr> ie, that command never gets executed if I pass CXXFLAGS in :p
861 2012-05-12 21:00:56 <luke-jr> sipa: anyhow, you want to fix it, or should I prepare a partial-revert pullreq?
862 2012-05-12 21:01:45 <sipa> i'll fix it
863 2012-05-12 21:01:58 <sipa> (and add a comment about why it is there)
864 2012-05-12 21:03:46 <luke-jr> k
865 2012-05-12 21:03:47 <luke-jr> ty
866 2012-05-12 21:06:25 <sipa> https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin/commit/79ca2bc40f3f8b11b9512a8d73d28d1ec77c56ef
867 2012-05-12 21:06:43 <sipa> ok?
868 2012-05-12 21:12:19 <luke-jr> the -O2 actually *should* be in CXXFLAGS
869 2012-05-12 21:13:23 <luke-jr> probably the warnings too, but they weren't before
870 2012-05-12 21:13:28 <luke-jr> since they're non-essential
871 2012-05-12 21:13:50 <luke-jr> ie, if the OS has its own optimizations/etc they probably should replace the defaults
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875 2012-05-12 21:20:46 <sipa> the last option specified takes effect
876 2012-05-12 21:20:52 <h4ckm3> I am getting an error in bitcoind that I havent seen before: EXCEPTION: N5boost16exception_detail10clone_implINS0_19error_info_injectorINS_15program_options14invalid_syntaxEEEEE this is in ubuntu 12.04 server 64bit can anyone tell me what's up? I am willing to tip
877 2012-05-12 21:21:54 <sipa> program options...
878 2012-05-12 21:22:18 <sipa> not sure where that comes from
879 2012-05-12 21:23:06 <h4ckm3> there is more output but I figured i'd provide that in a pm if someone was interested
880 2012-05-12 21:24:23 <sipa> paste it on pastebin or something like that
881 2012-05-12 21:24:37 <luke-jr> sipa: I mean, CXXFLAGS=-g traditionally removes any -O default; but I don't care strongly
882 2012-05-12 21:25:26 <h4ckm3> http://pastebin.com/4tafi2MG
883 2012-05-12 21:25:52 <luke-jr> h4ckm3: can you reproduce it?
884 2012-05-12 21:26:24 <h4ckm3> this occurs everytime i attempt to run bitcoind
885 2012-05-12 21:26:44 <luke-jr> h4ckm3: gdb ./bitcoin-0.6.2-linux/bin/64/bitcoind
886 2012-05-12 21:26:49 <luke-jr> h4ckm3: catch throw
887 2012-05-12 21:26:51 <luke-jr> h4ckm3: run
888 2012-05-12 21:26:58 <luke-jr> when it stops, do: bt
889 2012-05-12 21:27:49 <h4ckm3> one sec have to dl gdp on the vbox
890 2012-05-12 21:28:09 <sipa> h4ckm3: you have a line starting with "192." in your bitcoin.conf ?
891 2012-05-12 21:28:29 <sipa> sounds like you need to add the name of an option in front of it
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893 2012-05-12 21:28:38 <sipa> the syntax is <key>=<value>
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896 2012-05-12 21:28:41 <h4ckm3> one sec I will check
897 2012-05-12 21:30:24 <h4ckm3> lol that was it, somehow (probably a misstype) there was a 192. in front of a comment block, sorry for wasting your time
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901 2012-05-12 21:42:23 <sipa> luke-jr: hmm, i don't think a minimal optimization option passed in should remove all warning-settings
902 2012-05-12 21:43:42 <h4ckm3> sipa & luke-jr I'd like to tip you, addresses?
903 2012-05-12 21:44:26 <sipa> h4ckm3: unnecessary, but welcome: 1CTH7gPETCmive9TRHZbNEAhUBpqyv66h
904 2012-05-12 21:44:48 <DiabloD3> sipa: buy any of dmc yet?
905 2012-05-12 21:44:58 <sipa> no
906 2012-05-12 21:45:01 <DiabloD3> :<
907 2012-05-12 21:47:28 <luke-jr> h4ckm3: 1Ngs5u46YYjVcxTDCttZvY9in8MjZp1g8T
908 2012-05-12 21:47:47 <luke-jr> DiabloD3: is it selling?
909 2012-05-12 21:48:02 <DiabloD3> yup
910 2012-05-12 21:48:04 <DiabloD3> 62 so far
911 2012-05-12 21:48:07 <DiabloD3> and its not even the first 24 hours
912 2012-05-12 21:48:16 <luke-jr> DiabloD3: does that include mine?
913 2012-05-12 21:48:24 <DiabloD3> nope
914 2012-05-12 21:48:34 <luke-jr> how many total did you end up going with?
915 2012-05-12 21:48:44 <DiabloD3> 200k or $1ms worth
916 2012-05-12 21:48:50 <luke-jr> hmm
917 2012-05-12 21:48:58 <DiabloD3> I have more than that in reserve just for emergencies though
918 2012-05-12 21:48:58 <luke-jr> so 1 BTC per share?
919 2012-05-12 21:49:03 <DiabloD3> yup
920 2012-05-12 21:50:31 <luke-jr> DiabloD3: do I need a GLBSE account to get my 16 shares assigned? or how does that work?
921 2012-05-12 21:54:57 <DiabloD3> Im not sure.
922 2012-05-12 21:55:08 <DiabloD3> Im going to have to ask nefario about that
923 2012-05-12 21:55:30 <luke-jr> no rush, just as long as it's figured out before dividends etc
924 2012-05-12 21:57:03 <DiabloD3> whats your username on there?
925 2012-05-12 21:58:02 * DiabloD3 prods luke-jr 
926 2012-05-12 21:58:16 <luke-jr> dunno, gotta as nefario I think XD
927 2012-05-12 21:58:19 <luke-jr> ask*
928 2012-05-12 21:58:30 <DiabloD3> uuhh oh yeah
929 2012-05-12 21:58:32 <DiabloD3> he quit usernames
930 2012-05-12 21:58:50 <BTC_Bear> Is anyone aware of a Bot that follows Robert's Rules of Order (at least somewhat)? i.e. Determine Quorum via @,%,+, recognize speaker, yield time, etc...
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940 2012-05-12 22:11:52 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: Diapolo opened pull request 1274 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1274>
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945 2012-05-12 22:22:09 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: Diapolo opened pull request 1275 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1275>
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947 2012-05-12 22:32:24 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: Diapolo opened issue 1276 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1276>
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949 2012-05-12 22:36:57 <luke-jr> sipa: when can I build master again XD
950 2012-05-12 22:37:19 sirk390 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
951 2012-05-12 22:44:36 <sipa> luke-jr: done
952 2012-05-12 22:46:41 <luke-jr> ty
953 2012-05-12 22:47:24 * luke-jr peers at the immense volume of bitcoin transactions with fees
954 2012-05-12 22:47:40 <luke-jr> my code doesn't like when >50% of unconfirmed txns have fees :/
955 2012-05-12 22:47:47 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: Diapolo opened pull request 1277 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1277>
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958 2012-05-12 22:54:19 <sipa> hmmm made gcc segfault...
959 2012-05-12 22:55:02 <luke-jr> O.o
960 2012-05-12 22:55:28 <Diablo-D3> lolnice
961 2012-05-12 22:55:33 <Diablo-D3> luke breaks EVERYTHING
962 2012-05-12 22:55:35 <sipa> ok, part of my object files were compiled using -flto and some weren't
963 2012-05-12 22:55:47 <sipa> no, not luke-jr's doing
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974 2012-05-12 23:23:40 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: msva opened issue 1278 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1278>
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978 2012-05-12 23:38:57 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: msva opened issue 1279 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1279>
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