1 2012-06-28 00:02:11 <genjix> midnightmagic: just a random subset
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 15 2012-06-28 00:44:32 <graingert> is anyone free to lay down some justice in #bitcoin
 16 2012-06-28 00:45:08 <guruvan> oh ugh....deathbylollipop in da house
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 23 2012-06-28 01:21:32 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: ThePiachu opened issue 1527 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1527>
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 30 2012-06-28 01:39:44 <sipa> gmaxwell: mind testing my 'unstuck4' branch?
 31 2012-06-28 01:40:14 <sipa> i did a full block chain download with it, and without any duplicate getblocks requests, but it may be luck
 32 2012-06-28 01:41:11 <gmaxwell> Sure.
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 34 2012-06-28 01:54:47 <antkingtube> haha gmaxwell just got arrested
 35 2012-06-28 01:54:49 <antkingtube> fucking nig
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 37 2012-06-28 01:58:56 <galambo__> did i just fall in a time machine? back to high school?
 38 2012-06-28 01:59:22 <gmaxwell> dunno why this random idiot has a newfound fixation on me ::shrugs::
 39 2012-06-28 01:59:40 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: the random IRC flooding idiots usually seem to
 40 2012-06-28 01:59:51 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: PMs btw
 41 2012-06-28 01:59:54 <gmaxwell> It must be my manly beard.
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 43 2012-06-28 02:01:42 <gmaxwell> sipa: hm, is the && !mapAlreadyAskedFor.count(inv) going to result in baddness when a peer goes away and we don't request that block from other peers?
 44 2012-06-28 02:02:36 <sipa> gmaxwell: that third if-then-else case is only for the situation where a too long chain is being reconnected
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 46 2012-06-28 02:05:07 <sipa> all normal operations are covered by the first two (requesting block data, or requesting a block's parents when an orphan is received again)
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 49 2012-06-28 02:21:58 <midnightmagic> gmaxwell: I'm not grokking why everybody has such a problem with you. :(
 50 2012-06-28 02:22:10 <midnightmagic> and that's not even sarcasm
 51 2012-06-28 02:23:09 <gmaxwell> well this guy is after me because I was the person who banned him in #bitcoin-mining
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 53 2012-06-28 02:23:25 <gmaxwell> But ... he was crapflooding... so.. it's not like it was anything personal.
 54 2012-06-28 02:23:57 <midnightmagic> gmaxwell: we need one level of removal..  like have chanserv ban him or something instead.
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 63 2012-06-28 02:42:37 <D34TH> is there a flag i can set to static link bitcoin-qt?
 64 2012-06-28 02:43:23 <gmaxwell> You probably don't want to do that... it'll make it use more memory, operate less securely, and many distros make it hard to statically link anything now.
 65 2012-06-28 02:44:11 <D34TH> darn
 66 2012-06-28 02:44:16 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: dooglus opened issue 1528 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1528>
 67 2012-06-28 02:46:34 <D34TH> bitcoinrpc.cpp:2771: error: reference to ‘error’ is ambiguous
 68 2012-06-28 02:46:36 <D34TH> D:
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 89 2012-06-28 03:40:38 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: fanquake opened pull request 44 on bitcoin/bitcoin.org <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/pull/44>
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123 2012-06-28 05:08:09 <jgarzik> 'git bisect' precisely identifies the already-likely suspect, fbf9df2ea32528c71b58160283b4eb2c52e30ccb (Use the QueueShutdown signal to stop accepting new RPC connections)
124 2012-06-28 05:08:24 * jgarzik wonders if this pull req was ever tested on non-GUI
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128 2012-06-28 05:28:05 <wump> well that used to work, the problem is that that commit conflicts with https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/9247134, which effectively disables the uiInterface for non-ui...
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133 2012-06-28 05:37:24 <wump> so probably it was developed and tested on an earlier branch, then never tested on the current one after merging
134 2012-06-28 05:41:17 <wump> I think it's a nice use of signals, but he shouldn't use the uiInterface signal, it's only for communicating with the ui
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172 2012-06-28 07:43:10 <cande> can you do a getreceivedbyaddress 1xxxxxxx on an address you do not own?
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174 2012-06-28 07:52:48 <weex> cande: no
175 2012-06-28 07:53:23 <weex> you might be able to use another tool though
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177 2012-06-28 07:53:50 <weex> like txradar or blockchain.info's api
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226 2012-06-28 10:32:34 <sipa> jgarzik, wump: quite sure i tested it after that commit
227 2012-06-28 10:32:57 <sipa> but i didn't test right before merge
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268 2012-06-28 12:44:41 <BlueMatt> bitcointalk down?
269 2012-06-28 12:45:00 <sipa> seems so
270 2012-06-28 12:45:26 <genjix> but i need my fix
271 2012-06-28 12:45:39 <sipa> ;;isitdown bitcointalk.org
272 2012-06-28 12:45:45 <gribble> http://bitcointalk.org Is Down -> Check if your website is up or down?
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282 2012-06-28 13:15:44 <jgarzik> wump: that's almost exactly what I said in-channel... he shouldn't use uiinterface signals for non-UI :)
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285 2012-06-28 13:19:44 <wump> heh
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289 2012-06-28 13:38:09 <BlueMatt> is anyone currently working on fixing the master issues, or should I jump in?
290 2012-06-28 13:38:12 <BlueMatt> wump: ?
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292 2012-06-28 13:41:29 <wump> I'm not, currently
293 2012-06-28 13:42:24 <BlueMatt> ok, Ill go look
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301 2012-06-28 13:58:03 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: ask sipa, he merged it...
302 2012-06-28 13:58:42 <BlueMatt> wow...there are a ton of vnThreadsRunning[THREAD_RPCLISTENER]++/--s that arent locked and could run simultaneously...
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304 2012-06-28 13:59:48 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: none of the vnThreadsRunning[] uses are locked AFAIK
305 2012-06-28 14:00:20 <BlueMatt> jgarzik: but most of them only ever get modified by one thread
306 2012-06-28 14:00:41 <BlueMatt> the rpc stuff gets touched by, afaict, quite a bunch of threads...
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308 2012-06-28 14:01:05 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: yep
309 2012-06-28 14:01:37 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: doubtful that is the crashing problem though.
310 2012-06-28 14:02:36 <BlueMatt> jgarzik: no, but it could cause a different, so far unseen problem
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317 2012-06-28 14:33:39 <wump> it could cause misreporting on shutdown, at the least... maybe atomic increment/decrements could be used
318 2012-06-28 14:36:10 <wump> though it's never performance critical so I guess a single lock for the structure would work just as well
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339 2012-06-28 16:06:10 <helo> when hd wallets are introduced, will it be easy to send all coin from old wallet addresses to the new wallet?
340 2012-06-28 16:06:39 <copumpkin> 1080p?
341 2012-06-28 16:07:22 <BlueMatt> copumpkin: 4k
342 2012-06-28 16:07:32 <BlueMatt> helo: sure
343 2012-06-28 16:07:38 <BlueMatt> copumpkin: no, sorry, 8k
344 2012-06-28 16:07:57 <copumpkin> :)
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359 2012-06-28 16:29:35 <BlueMatt> wait...so now we spawn a new thread every time we get a new rpc connection. that seems...excessive
360 2012-06-28 16:30:28 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: perhaps... but it was the easiest transition away from the Old Way
361 2012-06-28 16:30:39 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: you're welcome to implement a thread pool or other fun
362 2012-06-28 16:31:00 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: I think only after authentication?
363 2012-06-28 16:31:14 <jgarzik> thread is starting after IP filter passes
364 2012-06-28 16:31:17 <jgarzik> *started
365 2012-06-28 16:31:23 <luke-jr> ah, right, that was it
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367 2012-06-28 16:31:25 <jgarzik> but before auth
368 2012-06-28 16:31:35 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: nope
369 2012-06-28 16:31:40 <BlueMatt> yea
370 2012-06-28 16:31:53 <luke-jr> is threading really that heavy?
371 2012-06-28 16:32:00 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: no, but its kinda ugly
372 2012-06-28 16:32:10 <BlueMatt> its not like its a big deal its just...excessive
373 2012-06-28 16:32:24 <jgarzik> it's not ugly, it's slack :)
374 2012-06-28 16:33:02 <BlueMatt> ok, whatever you wanna call it
375 2012-06-28 16:33:17 <jgarzik> lack of connection scaling is the main problem, but with HTTP/1.1 pipelining from IP filtered connections, that is less of an issue
376 2012-06-28 16:33:19 <luke-jr> I had to give up one-thread-per-connection in Eloipool when I deployed it to Eligius :P
377 2012-06-28 16:33:23 <luke-jr> but that's much higher traffic
378 2012-06-28 16:33:34 <BlueMatt> it does make watching gdb fun while [true]; do ./bitcoind ...; done fun...
379 2012-06-28 16:33:45 <jgarzik> thread-per-connection is DoS-able
380 2012-06-28 16:33:56 <jgarzik> of course, thread pool is DoS-able in other ways
381 2012-06-28 16:35:47 <BlueMatt> jgarzik: what was that about the vnThreadsRunning[THREAD_RPCHANDLER]++ stuff not being an issue? I just hit it
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384 2012-06-28 16:44:07 <sipa> BlueMatt: i doubt that counter stuff is the problem
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386 2012-06-28 16:47:27 * jgarzik has c++11 and boost atomics on his fedora system... I wonder how widespread they are
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389 2012-06-28 16:50:17 <maaku> i'm trying to build qt-win32-4.7.4-gitian.zip, but Qt is trying to do a 64-bit build which obviously fails
390 2012-06-28 16:50:22 <maaku> anyone experienced this?
391 2012-06-28 16:51:43 <luke-jr> maaku: try an older gitian?
392 2012-06-28 16:52:25 <maaku> hrm. ok. does anyone maintain a stable branch?
393 2012-06-28 16:52:43 <luke-jr> of gitian? not afaik
394 2012-06-28 16:53:19 <luke-jr> I use 5a2986fd
395 2012-06-28 16:53:33 <luke-jr> it doesn't have some nicer features, but it works
396 2012-06-28 16:53:34 <maaku> luke-jr: thanks, I'll try that
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404 2012-06-28 17:02:09 <EricLombrozo> how are multisig addresses constructed?
405 2012-06-28 17:02:52 <maaku> agh that won't work--i'm doing a LXC setup
406 2012-06-28 17:03:01 <maaku> i'll try one of the early LXC releases
407 2012-06-28 17:03:09 <luke-jr> >_<
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409 2012-06-28 17:04:58 <EricLombrozo> more specifically, how is 33QdBYMcN4UwFHTfBza7JQxSTLjhGudYtr generated from scriptSig = 00493046022100dab4a89d95ff6571d6ae24917f4b7adb909195d9c601d3c81b9d13483ffab1e0022100db13d574079cb0aed1eb41038660e9408f9f0932d5256f33e0ad9130e786f7e90148304502203d6336e409b058d0d4512bc507ce8f3f8bb5b45fc24610acab3e0c92bf020d8b022100f4cdb54a47ee1689c3d5f1211536e275903cdeab8d2900eb069078c8619245a30147522103ab115da6df4f540bd6c9c4be5fddcc24588e
410 2012-06-28 17:04:59 <EricLombrozo> 7c2caf138228dd0fce29fd65b87c210215e8b7bffe8d9bbd4581f9c3b6f16d670836c30bb2e03efd9d4103b559eb67cd52ae
411 2012-06-28 17:05:45 <EricLombrozo> or from OP_HASH160 12d69cd338a38d0d7783cf226497633d3c2079ea OP_EQUAL
412 2012-06-28 17:06:05 <EricLombrozo> is this documented anywhere?
413 2012-06-28 17:07:37 <EricLombrozo> seems that https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/List_of_address_prefixes and https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Base58Check_encoding need to be updated
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418 2012-06-28 17:15:57 <EricLombrozo> so bitcoin addresses are now supposed to start with version byte 0x05?
419 2012-06-28 17:16:07 <EricLombrozo> all new addresses? multisig or not?
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431 2012-06-28 17:34:24 <BlueMatt> sipa: its not /the/ problem, but its a problem, it will cause "ThreadsRPCServer still running" and keep bitcoin from exiting
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435 2012-06-28 17:45:09 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: TheBlueMatt opened pull request 1529 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1529>
436 2012-06-28 17:46:55 <gmaxwell> EricLombrozo: No, they do not.
437 2012-06-28 17:47:53 <gmaxwell> EricLombrozo: and see BIP 13 for the address description.
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441 2012-06-28 17:53:57 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: do all platforms guarantee that unlocked accesses to a 32-bit int do not interfere with unlocked accesses to adjacent 32-bit ints?
442 2012-06-28 17:54:12 <jgarzik> er, s/unlocked/locked/ for one of those
443 2012-06-28 17:54:52 <jgarzik> no clue how boost semantics wind up behaving WRT memory barriers and LOCK prefix, underneath all that
444 2012-06-28 17:55:27 <BlueMatt> jgarzik: thats a good point...I cant say I know, though if its an issue, Id think we should have been seeing that more often already
445 2012-06-28 17:55:39 <BlueMatt> not to say thats an argument for not researching and (potentially) fixing
446 2012-06-28 17:55:59 <BlueMatt> (assuming you're talking about vnThreadsRunning)
447 2012-06-28 17:56:03 <jgarzik> seems like it would make each code line in the vnThreadsRunning[] change smaller, if the lock were simply encapsulated
448 2012-06-28 17:56:19 <BlueMatt> if it needs a lock, yea Id say encapsulate it
449 2012-06-28 17:56:42 <jgarzik> threadman.inc(THREAD_RPCLISTENER) or whatever
450 2012-06-28 17:56:50 <BlueMatt> yep
451 2012-06-28 17:57:07 <BlueMatt> if its only one thread that needs locks, its not really worth it...but yea, if they all need locks, encapsulation would be nice
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453 2012-06-28 18:00:56 <luke-jr> could possibly just subclass and overload operator++ too <.<
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456 2012-06-28 18:03:08 <BlueMatt> jgarzik: I may be wrong, but could it be possible that we break that rule in ways that we cant control if there is such a rule (object allocation adjacent to other objecs)?
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495 2012-06-28 19:53:45 <cande> hi
496 2012-06-28 19:54:08 <cande> bitcoind sendtoaddress, what is 'comment' and 'comment-to' used for?
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504 2012-06-28 20:03:08 <ersi> I have two nodes - one with the full blockchain already synced and one which I've sat up to -connect to the fully synced node. It'll go very quickly until an external node get's connected - Is there anything special besides possible bandwidth and speed that'd slow *everything* down while syncing?
505 2012-06-28 20:03:51 <BlueMatt> cande: its just stored in your wallet with the transaction, use it for whatever you want...its never transmitted to other nodes
506 2012-06-28 20:04:01 <ersi> I'm not saying there's anything wrong, it's just that I observed the syncronisation going a *lot* slower
507 2012-06-28 20:04:28 <BlueMatt> ersi: while one gets an external connection?
508 2012-06-28 20:04:50 <BlueMatt> ersi: that said, bitcoin is absolutely terrible about overzealous locking...it locks a cs_main when it does just about anything
509 2012-06-28 20:04:56 <BlueMatt> could have something to do with that
510 2012-06-28 20:05:03 <ersi> Hmm
511 2012-06-28 20:05:16 <BlueMatt> ersi: can you elaborate on the situation?
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513 2012-06-28 20:06:03 <ersi> Well, all I know is that when connection > 1 while syncing - it'll go exceptionally slower than when I only was connected to my fully-synced LAN (actually remote over VPN) node
514 2012-06-28 20:06:26 <BlueMatt> which node is getting the connection, was my question?
515 2012-06-28 20:06:43 <ersi> Oh, heh. The not-synced one
516 2012-06-28 20:08:13 <ersi> I got "node A" which is syncing up from "node B", which is fully synced. When "node A" gets more than the connection to "node B" - the syncing will go slower (Only measured subjectively though)
517 2012-06-28 20:08:33 <ersi> Or well, I've noticed that the overall bandwidth use goes down a lot as well
518 2012-06-28 20:08:37 <cande> BlueMatt, thx
519 2012-06-28 20:09:18 <BlueMatt> Id bet that node c (the one making the connection to a) sends a a new block, and then a will start syncing from c instead of b, did you say you were using just -connect on a? in that case there shouldn't be a possibility of a getting any other connections
520 2012-06-28 20:10:12 <ersi> I am, but apparently -connect doesn't set -dnsseed=0 (defaults to 1) or -upnp=0 (defaults to 1)
521 2012-06-28 20:10:44 <ersi> I've fixed it for my part (I explicitly handed bitcoin-qt -upnp=0 -dnsseed=0 on node A) - just got curious :)
522 2012-06-28 20:11:19 <BlueMatt> thats not right...
523 2012-06-28 20:11:30 <ersi> I'll make a issue at GitHub then
524 2012-06-28 20:11:34 <BlueMatt> afaik it should be setting -nolisten and not making outgoing connections...
525 2012-06-28 20:11:38 <BlueMatt> but yea may be broken
526 2012-06-28 20:11:54 <ersi> sweet, at least something possibly found :-)
527 2012-06-28 20:11:55 <BlueMatt> (-nolisten should also set upnp to false)
528 2012-06-28 20:12:17 <ersi> and -nolisten is default I take it, if one starts ./bitcoin-qt?
529 2012-06-28 20:12:55 <BlueMatt> no, -nolisten is default if you have -connect set, otherwise its not
530 2012-06-28 20:13:06 <ersi> ah, alright
531 2012-06-28 20:14:40 <BlueMattBot> Yippie, build fixed!
532 2012-06-28 20:14:41 <BlueMattBot> Project Bitcoin build #373: FIXED in 48 min: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/job/Bitcoin/373/
533 2012-06-28 20:16:11 <gmaxwell> BlueMattBot: careful to distinguish between 0.7.0 and 0.6.2/3 behavior, because it changed a fair bit. I dunno which ersi is talking about.
534 2012-06-28 20:16:11 <BlueMattBot> gmaxwell you may not issue bot commands in this chat!
535 2012-06-28 20:16:21 <gmaxwell> stupid tab complete.
536 2012-06-28 20:16:55 <ersi> gmaxwell: I'll specify all details in the issue report (It's 0.6.3 by the way)
537 2012-06-28 20:17:18 <gmaxwell> ersi: then it's probably not useful to report it.
538 2012-06-28 20:17:28 <ersi> Don't know if it's valid for "trunk"/latest.. worst case, it'll be a known issue without any actions.
539 2012-06-28 20:17:53 <ersi> Meh, doesn't hurt to type it up anyhow
540 2012-06-28 20:18:58 <luke-jr> ersi: um, you can't get more connections if you use -connect
541 2012-06-28 20:19:10 <gmaxwell> I mean, I'm just going to close it right after you do. -connect now implies dnsseed=false and listen=false unless you've specified otherwise.
542 2012-06-28 20:20:05 <gmaxwell> (and listen=false implies upnp=false, discover=false)
543 2012-06-28 20:20:25 <ersi> Is that expected behaviour in 0.6.X? Or is that new for 0.7.X?
544 2012-06-28 20:21:04 <gmaxwell> Thats new behavior in 0.7.x.
545 2012-06-28 20:21:20 <ersi> Alrighty, funky.
546 2012-06-28 20:23:04 <luke-jr> ersi: it's a bug in 0.6.x I guess I need to check on
547 2012-06-28 20:23:25 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: no, it's not a bug. It's documented behavior.
548 2012-06-28 20:23:33 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: it is?
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550 2012-06-28 20:24:15 <luke-jr> where is it documented? why? O.o
551 2012-06-28 20:24:16 <ersi> I would like to argue semantics about that, but I'll just skip that
552 2012-06-28 20:24:28 <sturles> Shouldn't 0.6.2 listen to IPv6 by default?  Just discovered that mine don't.
553 2012-06-28 20:24:40 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: Im pretty sure that was always the behavior
554 2012-06-28 20:25:13 <BlueMatt> sturles: ipv6 is in 0.7
555 2012-06-28 20:25:33 <sturles> OK.  Upgrade then..
556 2012-06-28 20:25:39 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: in any case -connect has always implied -nolisten, which is whats discussed here
557 2012-06-28 20:25:42 <luke-jr> sturles: 0.7 is not released yet
558 2012-06-28 20:26:00 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: no, -dnsseed is apparently the problem?
559 2012-06-28 20:26:14 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: dnsseed doesnt make you make new connections, it only adds addresses
560 2012-06-28 20:26:28 <BlueMatt> (and connect doesnt make them)
561 2012-06-28 20:26:53 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: it does do a useless DNS lookup, at least
562 2012-06-28 20:27:53 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: but the real issue is that ersi's node made a new connection while running with -connect
563 2012-06-28 20:27:56 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: I think you're on drugs.
564 2012-06-28 20:28:05 <BlueMatt> (which afaik it hasnt since before my time)
565 2012-06-28 20:28:23 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: It made a new connection while running -connect?
566 2012-06-28 20:28:37 <ersi> It didn't do that when I last fiddled with Bitcoin, but we didn't have -upnp nor did we have -dnsseed back then. :-P
567 2012-06-28 20:28:44 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: or it was connected to, one of the two
568 2012-06-28 20:28:48 <gmaxwell> That isn't even possible. -connect triggers an infinite loop in the connections thread.
569 2012-06-28 20:28:55 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: Thats not the same thing.
570 2012-06-28 20:29:10 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: s/it made a new connection/it ended up with 2 total connections/
571 2012-06-28 20:29:21 <gmaxwell> Right.
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573 2012-06-28 20:29:27 <gmaxwell> Go read the 0.6.3 code.
574 2012-06-28 20:29:58 <ersi> I don't know which client/node connected to which. I just know that the connection indicator in the GUI increased.
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576 2012-06-28 20:33:37 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: are you enlightened yet?
577 2012-06-28 20:33:47 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: yep, you're right...
578 2012-06-28 20:33:55 <BlueMatt> damn, dunno how the hell I remembered that one wrong
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580 2012-06-28 20:34:10 <BlueMatt> sorry for all the fuss
581 2012-06-28 20:34:13 <gmaxwell> well, I'm guilty of that too... which is one of the reasons it got changed.
582 2012-06-28 20:35:29 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: re your comment on checknewblock: do you want/expect me to change that, or is it okay to leave it how it is?
583 2012-06-28 20:36:16 <gavinandresen> luke-jr: I'm trying to figure out how to safely get from where we are to where I want to be, and haven't decided whether a big refactor of the database stuff is the right path or not.
584 2012-06-28 20:37:32 <luke-jr> even if it is, I'm not sure fMockDb makes such a refactor harder
585 2012-06-28 20:37:38 <jgarzik_> gavinandresen: indeed.  that's why I closed the block split pullreq
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587 2012-06-28 20:37:54 <jgarzik> (though that is stored locally, and can always be recreated)
588 2012-06-28 20:38:15 <gavinandresen> fMockDb just makes the old C++ programmer in me go "ewwwww...."
589 2012-06-28 20:38:32 <jgarzik> yep
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656 2012-06-28 23:37:32 <galambo__> why does bitcointalk keep going down
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665 2012-06-28 23:49:20 <yellowhat> apparently some kind of DOS not yet clear.
666 2012-06-28 23:49:38 <yellowhat> its troll and dos season. did you get the memo?
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