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132 2012-08-11 07:59:57 <kauzu> sudo apt-get install libdb4.8++-dev does not work with ubuntu 12.04 but i need this to compile bitcoin-qt ... where can i get this ?
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134 2012-08-11 08:01:28 <Karmaon> kauzu: try 5.1
135 2012-08-11 08:01:31 <Ferroh> kauzu, just install libdb5.1
136 2012-08-11 08:01:37 <Karmaon> and i'm gone
137 2012-08-11 08:03:16 <kauzu> but the bitcoin reademe says they are not compatible
138 2012-08-11 08:04:05 <kauzu> The first time you run with a 5.X version the database will be upgraded, and 4.X cannot open the new format. This means that you cannot go back to the old statically linked version without significant hassle!
139 2012-08-11 08:07:17 <kauzu> where is the database stored so i can make a copy of the 4.x version
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141 2012-08-11 08:13:58 <kauzu> is it ~/.bitcoin/
142 2012-08-11 08:14:00 <kauzu> ?
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145 2012-08-11 08:22:14 <kauzu> helü
146 2012-08-11 08:22:17 <kauzu> *help
147 2012-08-11 08:45:40 <kauzu> ok --- compiles fine now...
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228 2012-08-11 14:08:00 <Ferroh> :(
229 2012-08-11 14:08:10 <Ferroh> the error when a key cant be imported due to the wallet being locked,
230 2012-08-11 14:08:18 <Ferroh> is identical to the error given when the key is already in the wallet
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255 2012-08-11 15:17:02 <sipa> luke-jr: mockdb fails in combination with ultraprune, with a very strange error
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258 2012-08-11 15:17:42 <sipa> when "loading" the mock wallet, it tries to deserialize data that looks like it's coins.dat data
259 2012-08-11 15:18:01 <sipa> is it possible it's effectively sharing all databases in mock mode?
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262 2012-08-11 15:19:19 <sipa> right, that seems to be it
263 2012-08-11 15:20:43 <sipa> luke-jr: i'll change it to use the passed pszFile as dbName, instead of "main", in mock mode
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283 2012-08-11 16:01:10 <bitcoinfans> I found something better than http://www.bitcoinfans.com
284 2012-08-11 16:01:11 <bitcoinfans> http://alturl.com/mmmbm
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301 2012-08-11 16:54:17 <dk5> is there a time the bitcoin-qt client would report an IP of 0.0.0.0 in a version message?
302 2012-08-11 16:54:29 <dk5> or a port of 0?
303 2012-08-11 16:59:54 <edcba> the question is why you shouldn't trust that...
304 2012-08-11 17:00:08 <dk5> ?
305 2012-08-11 17:00:19 <sipa> dk5: yes, when it cannot determine its own address
306 2012-08-11 17:00:32 <sipa> or knows that it cannot be reached by any
307 2012-08-11 17:01:02 <dk5> would it send around addr messages with 0.0.0.0 as well?
308 2012-08-11 17:01:27 <sipa> it shouldn't
309 2012-08-11 17:01:42 <sipa> and if it did, those wouldn't get forwarded anyway (they're not routable)
310 2012-08-11 17:01:49 <dk5> i see
311 2012-08-11 17:02:09 <dk5> is there any other address the client would report that is not the real address for the person besides 0.0.0.0?
312 2012-08-11 17:04:16 <sipa> it should only ever report either 0.0.0.0 or whatever it believes is its own address
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314 2012-08-11 17:04:31 <dk5> ok. thanks :-)
315 2012-08-11 17:09:48 <dk5> is there any reason to have a legitimate ip but a port of 0?
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317 2012-08-11 17:10:52 <dk5> in the version message
318 2012-08-11 17:12:16 <dk5> i've seen people sending version messages with a correct IP and a port of 0. is there a reason to be suspicious about these?
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320 2012-08-11 17:35:08 <luke-jr> sipa: I don't think you can pass a dbName without breaking it..
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322 2012-08-11 17:35:51 <luke-jr> dk5: lazy code?
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324 2012-08-11 17:37:07 <sipa> luke-jr: seems to work fine
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327 2012-08-11 17:38:59 <luke-jr> sipa: without creating any files?
328 2012-08-11 17:39:23 <sipa> sure
329 2012-08-11 17:39:25 <luke-jr> hmm
330 2012-08-11 17:39:29 <sipa> i'm talking about dbname, not filename
331 2012-08-11 17:39:35 <luke-jr> I wonder why the docs I read said it had to be NULL
332 2012-08-11 17:40:09 <sipa> in your code dbname isn't NULL, it's "main", just like in non-mock mode
333 2012-08-11 17:40:30 <sipa> i'm exploiting the fact that bdb does support multiple databases in one file
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337 2012-08-11 17:42:38 <luke-jr> well, I guess if it works it works
338 2012-08-11 17:47:24 <sipa> so in normal mode you use (file=<filename>, db="main), in mock mode you use (file=NULL, db=<filename>)
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359 2012-08-11 18:40:16 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
360 2012-08-11 18:40:16 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
361 2012-08-11 18:40:16 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
362 2012-08-11 18:40:16 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
363 2012-08-11 18:40:16 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
364 2012-08-11 18:40:16 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
365 2012-08-11 18:40:16 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
366 2012-08-11 18:40:17 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
367 2012-08-11 18:40:17 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
368 2012-08-11 18:40:18 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
369 2012-08-11 18:40:30 <[7]> ew, not that idiot again...
370 2012-08-11 18:40:52 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
371 2012-08-11 18:40:52 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
372 2012-08-11 18:40:52 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
373 2012-08-11 18:40:52 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
374 2012-08-11 18:40:52 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
375 2012-08-11 18:40:52 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
376 2012-08-11 18:40:52 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
377 2012-08-11 18:40:53 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
378 2012-08-11 18:40:53 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
379 2012-08-11 18:40:54 <[7]> jgarzik? wanna take care of him?
380 2012-08-11 18:40:54 <bitcoinfans> http://www.bitcoinfans.com/
381 2012-08-11 18:41:13 <[7]> ...or you :)
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383 2012-08-11 18:41:25 <gmaxwell> sorry, freenode is being really slow
384 2012-08-11 18:41:37 <LuaKT> Come do that in otc also please :)
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409 2012-08-11 20:37:26 <BlueMatt> TD: wrote my own ecdsa (copied openssl, essentially) and now Im seeing ~1/2 the peak performance of openssl in bitcoinj (instead of ~1/5th)
410 2012-08-11 20:38:04 <BlueMatt> and theres one other obvious optimization to go
411 2012-08-11 20:38:13 <TD> hmm
412 2012-08-11 20:38:17 <TD> so bouncy castle is just slow and crappy
413 2012-08-11 20:38:20 <TD> not a surprise :)
414 2012-08-11 20:38:26 <TD> ok, that's cool. i wonder what the next bottleneck is
415 2012-08-11 20:39:03 <BlueMatt> it implements straightforward ec math instead of converting to the jacobian form before doing calculations
416 2012-08-11 20:39:19 <TD> ah
417 2012-08-11 20:39:27 <TD> it'd be good to drop the BC dependency entirely
418 2012-08-11 20:39:36 <TD> and i don't think we use it for anything beyond hex en/decoding and ecdsa
419 2012-08-11 20:41:06 <BlueMatt> it still uses a bunch of bc base classes, but I suppose that could be changed pretty trivially
420 2012-08-11 20:41:26 <BlueMatt> and I cant say I really trust my own impl, but it seems to be verifying the chain just fine...
421 2012-08-11 20:43:41 <BlueMatt> eh, oops I read "next bottleneck" as "the bottleneck" its bc that uses straightforward ec math, the one I did is jacobian projections
422 2012-08-11 20:44:11 <BlueMatt> next?  dunno...Ill do a bit more benchmarking after I do WNAF
423 2012-08-11 20:44:22 <sipa> WNAF?
424 2012-08-11 20:45:13 <BlueMatt> a method to do sum(scalars[i] * ec_points[i])
425 2012-08-11 20:45:28 <BlueMatt> windowed-naf
426 2012-08-11 20:45:54 <sipa> ah
427 2012-08-11 20:47:44 <sipa> ultraprune rebased, and after each separate commit, succeeds unit tests
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438 2012-08-11 21:12:19 <luke-jr> someone should teach rsync about append-only files :/
439 2012-08-11 21:12:32 <TD> BlueMatt: right. the main concern with a custom implementation is the lack of peer review
440 2012-08-11 21:12:53 <TD> BlueMatt: i wonder if Hal is well enough to read the code you wrote? if it's basically a transcription of openssl, it's safer than it'd otherwise be
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442 2012-08-11 21:12:55 <TD> but even so ...
443 2012-08-11 21:13:58 <sipa> hmm, his last post on the forum was in march
444 2012-08-11 21:15:52 <TD> i see him online a bit still
445 2012-08-11 21:15:57 <TD> i could ask him, at least to recommend someone
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450 2012-08-11 21:34:53 <amiller> BlueMatt, you might ask brian warner from mozilla and tahoe-lafs https://github.com/warner/python-ecdsa
451 2012-08-11 21:36:23 <sipa> BlueMatt: is your code JNI/C, or Java?
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467 2012-08-11 21:59:37 <t7> i wanna goto http://bitcoin2012.com/ but hotel prices are insane around russel square
468 2012-08-11 21:59:48 <t7> maybe i can get the train to somewhere cheap
469 2012-08-11 22:01:27 <BlueMatt> sipa: pure java
470 2012-08-11 22:02:00 <BlueMatt> TD/amiller: yea, it would be interesting to get it reviewed, or maybe just submit some changes upstream to bc itself
471 2012-08-11 22:02:15 <TD> that also works
472 2012-08-11 22:02:19 <sipa> BlueMatt: and it's only 1/2 as fast as openssl?
473 2012-08-11 22:02:25 <BlueMatt> sipa: yep
474 2012-08-11 22:02:30 <sipa> impressive!
475 2012-08-11 22:02:39 <BlueMatt> it is essentially openssl
476 2012-08-11 22:03:12 <BlueMatt> no, its actually a bit slower
477 2012-08-11 22:03:53 <t7> £110 for ensuite 2 nights
478 2012-08-11 22:03:58 <amiller> there are a bunch of tests here, maybe you could run it against those somehow? https://github.com/warner/python-ecdsa/blob/master/ecdsa/test_pyecdsa.py
479 2012-08-11 22:07:14 <BlueMatt> no, its closer to 1:3.25 slower than openssl, sorry
480 2012-08-11 22:07:28 <BlueMatt> amiller: yea, I believe openssl also has a number of tests that I may look into
481 2012-08-11 22:07:41 <BlueMatt> still, without all the ops openssl has, thats not too bad
482 2012-08-11 22:07:42 <t7> i wonder how slow my ECDSA is...
483 2012-08-11 22:09:22 <phantomcircuit> t7, per night or both nights?
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485 2012-08-11 22:09:46 <t7> phantomcircuit for two
486 2012-08-11 22:10:08 <phantomcircuit> that isn't bad actually
487 2012-08-11 22:10:22 <t7> where i live its like £30 a night
488 2012-08-11 22:10:31 <phantomcircuit> for reference that's cheaper than an apartment in sf per night
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490 2012-08-11 22:14:53 <sipa> phantomcircuit: 30 or 55?
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492 2012-08-11 22:21:23 <phantomcircuit> sipa, it's gonna be minimum 1500 in sf
493 2012-08-11 22:21:28 <phantomcircuit> that's about $50/day
494 2012-08-11 22:21:47 <phantomcircuit> that's 31 GBP/day
495 2012-08-11 22:21:56 <phantomcircuit> and there isn't even anybody cleaning everything for you :)
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511 2012-08-11 23:14:18 <t7> i think i pay just over £10 a day for my rent :)
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520 2012-08-11 23:17:30 <enquirer> plenty of motels in sf for $60
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