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26 2012-09-17 00:46:44 <matmar10> Hi all! I'm working on wrapping the MtGox REST API using Guzzle (a proper REST client library); I noticed a discrepancy in the MtGox docs regarding one of the 'private' API endpoints.
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28 2012-09-17 00:46:59 <matmar10> Your trade history https://mtgox.com/api/1/BTCUSD/private/trades https://mtgox.com/api/1/BTCEUR/private/trades Returns all of your trades in this currency (BTCUSD, BTCEUR . . . ) . Does not include fees.
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30 2012-09-17 00:47:42 <matmar10> Does anyone know what that endpoint *should* do? Right now it allows public GET and returns just a big block of trades.
31 2012-09-17 00:47:54 <matmar10> I'm happy to update the docs, but I need to know what it's supposed to do, first :-)
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33 2012-09-17 00:49:44 <kjj_> I don't know if anyone here knows. you'd be better off asking the mtgox people
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80 2012-09-17 02:17:09 <Luke-Jr> sipa: wumpus: BlueMatt: ping
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122 2012-09-17 03:47:09 <arij> i want to use this but i cant figure out how to get it to work does some one want to help me? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109831.0
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126 2012-09-17 03:54:44 <kjj_> I'd ask in that thread
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133 2012-09-17 04:15:06 <sipa> Luke-Jr: ?
134 2012-09-17 04:15:34 <Luke-Jr> sipa: can you do gitians of stable rc3s? :p
135 2012-09-17 04:16:57 <Luke-Jr> maybe when you get back
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328 2012-09-17 12:21:48 <daedeloth> alright guys, http://home.catlab.be/bitcoin/ => try it, feedback it, break it. Everything is implemented except the last step (= sending you the credits) but that part will be implemented soon and will process all "old" transfers as well. Let me know what you think :)
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330 2012-09-17 12:22:15 <daedeloth> *credits = bitcoins :)
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340 2012-09-17 12:25:18 <kreal> v1 :)
341 2012-09-17 12:25:29 <daedeloth> yea :p
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397 2012-09-17 13:54:16 <otimm> would it be a stupid idea to hardcode the requirements for a new checksum block into the source instead of a hand choosen list? and let the nodes vote for a new checksum block by themself? the "hash of all checksum blocks" would then be another metric of the nework. if it changes, a new checksum block is added to the list. new nodes can request the list and check if the checksum matches.
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399 2012-09-17 13:56:14 <gmaxwell> otimm: Yes it would be a bad idea.
400 2012-09-17 13:56:23 <gmaxwell> otimm: it would undermine the security model entirely.
401 2012-09-17 13:56:27 <otimm> oh, great, i am good at those >)
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403 2012-09-17 13:57:48 <gmaxwell> Bitcoin is not a democracy. The only voting in the system is on the order of transactions... and thats because there was no other way known to accomplish it. Each complete bitcoin node fully validates the rules of the system on its own.
404 2012-09-17 13:59:35 <gmaxwell> as for what you suggest, either it does nothing because you reorg off itâ e.g. you get a second longer chain which disagrees with a checksum but it's longer so you accept itâ or it risks creating mutually exclusive hard forks because different nodes heard of different chains in different orders and accept different checksums.
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406 2012-09-17 14:03:40 <sipa> i wonder what the security implications would be of using a check-sigs-in-last-5000-blocks rule for example, ibstead of after the last checksum, in reverse-headers fetch?
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408 2012-09-17 14:06:26 <gavinandresen> I'm going to tag and push 0.7.0 final now, unless I hear howls of protest ....
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412 2012-09-17 14:10:07 <gmaxwell> sipa: I'm sort of doubtful that the gain is worth thinking about or arguing about the security of it.
413 2012-09-17 14:10:35 <gavinandresen> * [new tag] v0.7.0 -> v0.7.0
414 2012-09-17 14:10:57 <gmaxwell> sipa: would certantly be better off if you could process notifications of rule violations. Then even getting a big reorg wouldn't let you get away with stealing coins.
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416 2012-09-17 14:13:19 <gmaxwell> sipa: better, e.g. to get sig checking in async enough and just run them behind. and when it's sufficiently deep in the chain you let them go completely async.
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426 2012-09-17 14:28:36 <sipa> gmaxwell: that does seem safer indeed
427 2012-09-17 14:29:04 <Diablo-D3> sipa, gmaxwell...
428 2012-09-17 14:29:21 <Diablo-D3> how is it I enter your interesting conversations in the middle like every time?
429 2012-09-17 14:29:43 <sipa> gmaxwell: btw, my guess why i only see a 2.5x speedup with parallel sig checking: my i7 cpu clocks down when multiple cores are busy
430 2012-09-17 14:29:55 <gmaxwell> sipa: AH!
431 2012-09-17 14:30:13 <Diablo-D3> lol turbocore
432 2012-09-17 14:30:16 <Diablo-D3> I hate that feature
433 2012-09-17 14:30:26 <Diablo-D3> it penalizes you for having well written parallel code
434 2012-09-17 14:30:43 <sipa> it's very useful in general, but very inconvenient for benchmarks
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436 2012-09-17 14:30:58 <Diablo-D3> you can turn that off at runtime I believe, I dont think you have to reboot to bios to do it
437 2012-09-17 14:31:15 * Diablo-D3 doesnt have a cpu with that
438 2012-09-17 14:32:04 <Diablo-D3> sipa: btw, cant you do sig checking in opencl?
439 2012-09-17 14:32:34 <sipa> i'll add some cmdline options to select the number of threads and where to start sigchecking, and ask some others to benchmark too :)
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442 2012-09-17 14:33:22 <sipa> Diablo-D3: should be possible, but i'm not sure whether someone already implemented ec multiplication in opencl
443 2012-09-17 14:33:37 <sipa> vanitygen only does ec additions on the gpu
444 2012-09-17 14:34:15 <Diablo-D3> wonder why
445 2012-09-17 14:34:23 <Diablo-D3> ec is only integer right?
446 2012-09-17 14:34:39 <sipa> though i do expect something in the order of 50000 sigchecks/s on a high-end cpu
447 2012-09-17 14:34:55 <sipa> wwhich i*gpu
448 2012-09-17 14:34:58 <sipa> eh
449 2012-09-17 14:34:59 <Diablo-D3> wtf
450 2012-09-17 14:35:01 <sipa> *gpu
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471 2012-09-17 14:50:45 <gavinandresen> sipa wumpus BlueMatt Luke-Jr : are y'all able to gitian build 0.7.0 final today? I just pushed my sigs... (and gmaxwell: are you gitian-capable ?)
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473 2012-09-17 14:55:20 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: ack, building (not sure if my win32's will match this time, but I kinda doubt it)
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475 2012-09-17 14:56:06 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: what should I say about the ppa in the release announcement? How quickly is that updated/available ?
476 2012-09-17 14:56:15 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: will push that today too
477 2012-09-17 14:56:39 <BlueMatt> "if you are currently using the ppa, there should be an update available with the rest of your system updates within a few hours"
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480 2012-09-17 15:03:35 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: I modified the info about the ppa from the 0.6 release: see README.txt at https://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/bitcoin-0.7.0/
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483 2012-09-17 15:11:42 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: I still find the "How to upgrade" section unclear wrt the ppa
484 2012-09-17 15:12:04 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: seems like ppa users may have to -detachdb, which is wrong
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487 2012-09-17 15:14:38 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: I'm torn between wanting to keep the how-to-upgrade simple for the 95% of users who just upgrade from the last release and adding more info for the 5% who do something weird (like switch from ppa to the .tar.gz ....)
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489 2012-09-17 15:15:30 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: Maybe the right thing to do is one paragraph for the 95% case, then a very short sentence saying "If you have trouble, see <link>."
490 2012-09-17 15:15:45 <gavinandresen> ... where <link> has all the gory details.
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498 2012-09-17 15:25:27 <kjj_> odd. was/is there a bug with the "version message" log lines?
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522 2012-09-17 15:32:14 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: Id just say add (for example, if you were using an Ubuntu PPA version, and are switching to the binary releases)
523 2012-09-17 15:32:42 <BlueMatt> to make it clear
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525 2012-09-17 15:33:26 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: OK
526 2012-09-17 15:35:07 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: readme updated
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533 2012-09-17 15:37:41 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: thanks
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543 2012-09-17 15:52:21 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: my linux sigs pushed, win32 didnt match (again) there's something up with my system thats making it not match, Ill look into it some other time
544 2012-09-17 15:52:44 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: great, thanks.
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546 2012-09-17 15:55:11 <BlueMatt> does anyone other than me build with -j4 or something other than default?
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551 2012-09-17 15:59:07 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: I gitian build following doc/release-process.txt exactly
552 2012-09-17 15:59:58 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: I could try gitian-building -j4... how would I do that?
553 2012-09-17 16:01:08 <kjj_> is it normal for the port number in the "send version message" debug line to be 1 higher than the actual port number?
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558 2012-09-17 16:07:17 <Eliel> https://twitter.com/SDLerner/status/247725013975834624 is this something that's known about?
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560 2012-09-17 16:08:22 <Diablo-D3> Eliel: I doubt there is one
561 2012-09-17 16:08:45 <Diablo-D3> many people have tried, none have succeeded
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563 2012-09-17 16:10:01 <kjj_> I'm pretty sure he's actually found several security problems already.
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566 2012-09-17 16:14:06 <gmaxwell> kjj_: He's been pretty helpful with node dos attacks. I take issue with calling every way you can flood a node off a "security problem"
567 2012-09-17 16:14:12 <gmaxwell> It's abnormal to do so.
568 2012-09-17 16:14:36 <kjj_> heh. I agree. I don't really see DOS potential as a huge threat either
569 2012-09-17 16:14:50 <gmaxwell> Well there are different kinds of dosses.
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572 2012-09-17 16:16:24 <gmaxwell> It's just the general problem with language. A buffer overflow causing arbitrary code execution is what I think most people think of when they hear security, which is not at all the same thing.
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574 2012-09-17 16:17:31 <gmaxwell> A DOS that takes O(~1) effort to blow up all the nodes is not the same as a DOS where the attacker must do as much work as the victims.
575 2012-09-17 16:17:34 <gmaxwell> etc.
576 2012-09-17 16:18:20 <otimm> apple releasing a new iphone is also kind of an ddos attack to many websites ;)
577 2012-09-17 16:18:56 <gmaxwell> It's also complicated by the fashion of security people to selfpromote the everlasting shit out of themselves. Why is a DOS attack of a boring kind more important than fixing a crasher? Or a more serious DOS more important than a data corruption bug?
578 2012-09-17 16:19:08 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, too be fair there are probably a few dos attacks which would work against the network
579 2012-09-17 16:19:33 <phantomcircuit> all the ones i've come up with at this point require significant work by the attacker, but they would still get an out sized result
580 2012-09-17 16:19:44 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: Sure, and we've been closing them diligently for the last year.
581 2012-09-17 16:20:15 <phantomcircuit> yeah i think most of them are well covered at this point
582 2012-09-17 16:20:33 <gmaxwell> Some remain and are more fundimental and a bit harder to fix.
583 2012-09-17 16:21:17 <gmaxwell> E.g. what happens if I have a 100,000 node botnet and make them all bitcoin listeners that do nothing? They accept connections, they rumor their own adresses (and no others), and then they just sit around.
584 2012-09-17 16:21:25 <phantomcircuit> i can think of at least one which is probably not even possible to fix but is more a matter of there simply needing to be more nodes
585 2012-09-17 16:22:19 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, i haven't looked at it closelt but i suspect gavins DOS thing would end up flagging them as being naughty if you had at least one real connection
586 2012-09-17 16:22:24 <gmaxwell> Say there are 15k good listeners.. 100k drones. 1/3 chance you pick 8 peers and they're all bad.
587 2012-09-17 16:22:29 <phantomcircuit> would take a bit more investigating though
588 2012-09-17 16:22:47 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: nah, no way to tell that they're naughty. They act normal, but they're quiet.
589 2012-09-17 16:22:55 <gmaxwell> They don't send you bad data.. just no good data.
590 2012-09-17 16:23:11 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, well that's in itself suspicious after a certain point
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592 2012-09-17 16:23:18 <phantomcircuit> given the amount of activity on the real network
593 2012-09-17 16:23:44 <phantomcircuit> given that every connection you have should issue you an INV for each transaction the others send
594 2012-09-17 16:23:52 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: yea, but thats very dangerous to code in tests for... the network gets quiet for too long once and everyone bans everyone else! hurrah!
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596 2012-09-17 16:23:53 <phantomcircuit> you could reasonably well identify bad nodes
597 2012-09-17 16:23:55 <gmaxwell> :P
598 2012-09-17 16:24:08 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, right
599 2012-09-17 16:24:30 <Eliel> a ban is too heavy for something like that but if that happens, it would be quite sensible to go shopping for more alternatives.
600 2012-09-17 16:24:36 <phantomcircuit> but if you're being told by every other node about a transaction and one node is consistently telling you nothing...
601 2012-09-17 16:24:47 <Eliel> as in, try out more nodes.
602 2012-09-17 16:24:56 <phantomcircuit> of course you would simply increase the number of connections
603 2012-09-17 16:25:04 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: well once you have some good peers the dead ones don't harm you except by eating slots.
604 2012-09-17 16:25:05 <phantomcircuit> s/would/could/
605 2012-09-17 16:25:21 <gmaxwell> My point was that with enough deadnodes you can get clients that are partitioned from the network.
606 2012-09-17 16:25:36 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, right but you could identify them in the address book of peers as being people you dont really want to talk to first
607 2012-09-17 16:25:36 <Eliel> IMO, the dead ones should not get counted as eating up a slot at all
608 2012-09-17 16:25:53 <phantomcircuit> so that they would still connect out
609 2012-09-17 16:25:58 <phantomcircuit> but you wouldn't connect to them
610 2012-09-17 16:26:02 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: yes, there are things that can be done to improve it.
611 2012-09-17 16:26:15 <Eliel> or at least, apply them to a category with a separate and larger slot limit.
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613 2012-09-17 16:26:25 <kjj_> the problem is that an attacker could make the nodes "nearly dead" at whatever level of activity you define as being dead
614 2012-09-17 16:26:33 <gmaxwell> I removed another fun high difficulty attack (but lower difficulty than that) in 0.7.
615 2012-09-17 16:26:40 <phantomcircuit> kjj_, which is hilariously just fine :)
616 2012-09-17 16:26:59 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: it's not, they could for example only forward dice transactions and blocks from forks.
617 2012-09-17 16:27:03 <kjj_> phantomcircuit: just fine only if you can really define what normal looks like in code
618 2012-09-17 16:27:33 <kjj_> and I think that if you could do that, the Nobel committee might consider adding a prize for AI work
619 2012-09-17 16:27:34 <gmaxwell> I removed another fun high difficulty attack (but lower difficulty than that) in 0.7... We used who connected in to you to control the 'don't connect to the same /16' check on outbound.
620 2012-09-17 16:27:40 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, well and of course this all goes back to my original proposal
621 2012-09-17 16:27:49 <phantomcircuit> 4 "static" slots and 4 roaming slots
622 2012-09-17 16:27:57 <Eliel> I think each node ought to define normal from it's history. Plus perhaps some kind of initial assumption hardcoded in.
623 2012-09-17 16:28:01 <gmaxwell> So an attacker that could get an outbound connection from some /16 could prevent nodes from connecting to all the good nodes in that /16.
624 2012-09-17 16:28:37 <phantomcircuit> i suspect implementing that wouldn't be too difficult actually
625 2012-09-17 16:28:40 <phantomcircuit> maybe i should do it
626 2012-09-17 16:28:51 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: sipa has plans for something along those lines and has run some simulations for his proposal for it. It's probably the way to go, but it may reduce anonymity.
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628 2012-09-17 16:29:15 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, i suspect it would but of course if you were really worried you could simply run over tor
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630 2012-09-17 16:29:35 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, heh i proposed that in like march of 2011
631 2012-09-17 16:29:55 <phantomcircuit> bigger and more important things to deal with though
632 2012-09-17 16:30:05 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: tor isn't a magic bullet, and presents some of its own problems. 100,000 sybil onion nodes is much easier than 100,000 sybil nodes. And exit operators can intercept and redirect all bitcoin traffic to their own nodes and you'll never notice.
633 2012-09-17 16:30:24 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, that's true
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635 2012-09-17 16:30:45 <phantomcircuit> the immensely paranoid are of course
636 2012-09-17 16:30:47 <phantomcircuit> screwed
637 2012-09-17 16:30:48 <phantomcircuit> :)
638 2012-09-17 16:30:49 <gmaxwell> People can also operate malicious exits that only exit to bitcoin nodes. You can even get the exit flag in tor without being a general case exit; due to a similar kind of awkward to solve problem for tor.
639 2012-09-17 16:31:18 <phantomcircuit> iirc most directory servers will mark you an exit node if you simply tell them you are
640 2012-09-17 16:31:26 <phantomcircuit> no need to actually provide any exit at all
641 2012-09-17 16:31:37 <gmaxwell> right, this is all fringe stuff. As far as I can tell no one is even _trying_ to do dos attacks against bitcoin. We should harden, of course, but it's important to not get too excited about it... lest the fixes go too hasty and add their own weaknesses.
642 2012-09-17 16:32:14 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: nah, they won't unless you exit one of several ports to at least a /8 of the internet.
643 2012-09-17 16:33:08 <gmaxwell> (this actually breaks some anti-tor filtering, because they erroniously assume that nodes that don't have the exit flag won't exit, even if they have a exit description list that includes them)
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645 2012-09-17 16:35:48 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, lol so you could for example setup a tor exit node specifically for freenode and maybe it would work
646 2012-09-17 16:35:50 <phantomcircuit> interesting
647 2012-09-17 16:36:25 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: well, I assume freenode is smart enough to cope with that.
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649 2012-09-17 16:40:50 <gavinandresen> I don't like that word "assume"
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655 2012-09-17 16:50:30 <kjj_> ok, just finished my 0.7.0 final builds and the version message thing seems to have been fixed
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665 2012-09-17 17:07:10 <ageis> why can't I softlink my /Application Data/Bitcoin/ directory on Windows to /home/$user/.bitcoin on Linux without 22DbRunRecoveryException
666 2012-09-17 17:08:33 <kjj_> I assume dual boot? are you detaching when you shut down?
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733 2012-09-17 19:11:00 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: 0.7 ppa up (i386 builds are a few hours away)
734 2012-09-17 19:11:32 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: great. I'm waiting for more gitian signature before official announcement...
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737 2012-09-17 19:12:20 <BlueMatt> ACK, hope its kosher I went ahead and pushed the ppa
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739 2012-09-17 19:14:33 <BlueMatt> ?
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747 2012-09-17 19:22:32 <MC-Eeepc> would a paper wallet root for a HD wallet be safer as some sort of QR code or just plain numbers
748 2012-09-17 19:23:04 <MC-Eeepc> cant you bump the error correction for QR codes up to crazy levels
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753 2012-09-17 19:29:37 <MC-Eeepc> http://wtfqrcodes.com/image/19356261429 QR code only gravestone
754 2012-09-17 19:29:42 <MC-Eeepc> goodness gracious me
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774 2012-09-17 20:10:34 <Luke-Jr> gavinandresen: sure, though I still have to reiterate that I'm very uncomfortable with releasing with those refactor_times bugs.
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783 2012-09-17 20:20:09 <enolan> If I launch bitcoin-qt -testnet is it going to clobber my ~/.bitcoin with the real BTC in it?
784 2012-09-17 20:20:29 <gavinandresen> enolan: no
785 2012-09-17 20:20:51 <gavinandresen> enolan: you'll get a .bitcoin/testnet3/ subdirectory with the testnet wallet, chain, etc in it
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787 2012-09-17 20:21:09 <enolan> oh. Great. It does the right thing automatically.
788 2012-09-17 20:21:11 <enolan> :)
789 2012-09-17 20:23:42 <Luke-Jr> gavinandresen: my build will be a bit, I didn't have the new qt built yet
790 2012-09-17 20:24:06 <Luke-Jr> gavinandresen: how was the conference?
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792 2012-09-17 20:25:16 <gavinandresen> Luke-Jr: no idea, I didn
793 2012-09-17 20:25:16 <gavinandresen> '
794 2012-09-17 20:25:19 <gavinandresen> t go
795 2012-09-17 20:25:34 <Luke-Jr> oh
796 2012-09-17 20:27:16 <Luke-Jr> gavinandresen: any idea if master is going on to 0.8 now, or if you want to do a 0.7.1 from it first?
797 2012-09-17 20:28:05 <gavinandresen> no idea. I'm inclined to pull some of the big features and do a 0.8 next, and only do a 0.7.1 if there is another DoS/security issue to fix.
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799 2012-09-17 20:30:17 <Luke-Jr> if you want to go ahead with making master into 0.8, I'll certainly be making a 0.7.x branch that could be used in such circumstances - it just complicates things (and makes git diff/log ugly) to have independent 0.7.x branches, so I'd rather wait until that won't happen
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809 2012-09-17 20:51:55 <TD> gavinandresen: fyi it was good :)
810 2012-09-17 20:52:00 <TD> would have been great to meet you there, but maybe next year
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862 2012-09-17 22:19:27 <Luke-Jr> https://twitter.com/SDLerner/status/247725013975834624
863 2012-09-17 22:19:28 <Luke-Jr> gavinandresen: ^
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867 2012-09-17 22:22:54 <freewil> anyone care to guess the acronym?
868 2012-09-17 22:23:54 <freewil> A Volatile Attack Lacking A Nonce Check Halving Expense
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873 2012-09-17 22:29:22 <helo> avocado?
874 2012-09-17 22:30:03 <diki> freewil:avalanche?
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876 2012-09-17 22:30:19 <freewil> diki, ha - yes
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878 2012-09-17 22:30:30 <diki> We know all about it.
879 2012-09-17 22:30:42 <freewil> we do?
880 2012-09-17 22:31:55 <diki> well there's a thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110221.msg1199248;boardseen#new
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887 2012-09-17 22:36:02 <Luke-Jr> Please help test Bitcoin 0.6.4rc3 (and other backports): https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=110231
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907 2012-09-17 22:58:17 <sipa> gavinandresen: building
908 2012-09-17 23:00:34 <Luke-Jr> I screwed up and forgot to copy the qt output, so mine is still going :<
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914 2012-09-17 23:07:40 <sipa> gavinandresen: windows build matches yours
915 2012-09-17 23:08:23 <gavinandresen> sipa : gr8
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917 2012-09-17 23:11:58 <sipa> jgarzik: back home?
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925 2012-09-17 23:21:46 <sipa> gavinandresen, BlueMatt: linux build matches also
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927 2012-09-17 23:21:55 <gavinandresen> huzzah
928 2012-09-17 23:22:16 <gavinandresen> I'll start uploading binaries to SourceForge
929 2012-09-17 23:22:22 <sipa> sigs pushed
930 2012-09-17 23:22:55 <sipa> BlueMatt: any reason why your assert files are interleaved with newlines?
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937 2012-09-17 23:36:32 <kjj_> It might be just me, but I really hate the crappy tarballs that github produces. I liked the sources repackaged into sane directory names and put on sourceforge
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942 2012-09-17 23:37:50 <gavinandresen> 0.7 binaries up at https://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/bitcoin-0.7.0/ (I didn't forget one this time, did I?)
943 2012-09-17 23:38:11 <diki> official or RC?
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945 2012-09-17 23:38:26 <gavinandresen> 100% guaranteed Official Binaries
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947 2012-09-17 23:38:46 <diki> Btw, why use github for the code, but sourceforge for binaries?
948 2012-09-17 23:39:05 <gavinandresen> we experimented with github for binaries, but it was flaky
949 2012-09-17 23:39:41 <gavinandresen> we switched to github for code because we liked git better than svn, and sourceforge didn't have git when we switched....
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952 2012-09-17 23:41:11 <kjj_> oh hey, the source tarball is up on sourceforge, but the note there says it isn't and won't be
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954 2012-09-17 23:41:30 <sipa> maybe we should try it again sometime, but it seems that sf still has a lot more infrastructure for file distribution
955 2012-09-17 23:41:50 <gavinandresen> kjj_: you mean the linux.tar.gz ? That's source and binaries.
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957 2012-09-17 23:42:51 <diki> gavinandresen:May I ask who made the Bulgarian translation since I already noticed it has typos...
958 2012-09-17 23:42:52 <kjj_> yeah, it is up now. but the note says "we are no longer distribruting .tar.gz files here"
959 2012-09-17 23:43:29 <gavinandresen> diki: I dunno, all the translations come from transifex, you can check there.
960 2012-09-17 23:44:10 <diki> gavinandresen:I love the RPC console, blows away everything :)
961 2012-09-17 23:44:25 <sipa> kudos to wumpus for that
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963 2012-09-17 23:44:53 <gavinandresen> kjj_: I'll change the README to say "no longer distributing source-only tarballs/zipballs"
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965 2012-09-17 23:46:30 <kjj_> gavinadresen: cool, thanks. I wish github would build tarball directory structures based on the tag name instead of their silly hash
966 2012-09-17 23:47:11 <gavinandresen> kjj_: If only there was some way to communicate with the github people.....
967 2012-09-17 23:47:19 <jgarzik> sipa: back home
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970 2012-09-17 23:47:56 <jgarzik> gavinandresen: w00t (RE official release)
971 2012-09-17 23:48:17 <jgarzik> wait a couple days post release for severe bugs, then merge leveldb ;p
972 2012-09-17 23:48:28 <kjj_> haha. I've seen too many videos from gitophiles to think that would help. I really don't want a lengthy email about how version numbers are wrong and I'm stupid for wanting them
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974 2012-09-17 23:49:04 <arij> whats avalanche? is it a serious vuln ?
975 2012-09-17 23:49:20 <diki> jgarzik:bugs? Hey if I strike a block and bitcoin crashes...:P
976 2012-09-17 23:51:05 <jgarzik> kjj_: I think a lack of version numbers only makes sense when you have a direct git -> distro pipeline, an operation which implicitly adds its own version numbers
977 2012-09-17 23:51:18 <jgarzik> otherwise, like in bitcoin's case, version numbers are useful for coordinating user reports
978 2012-09-17 23:51:23 <jgarzik> and user experience
979 2012-09-17 23:51:53 <gavinandresen> I dunno which vulnerability Sergio is calling 'AVALANCHE'... they were all denial-of-service attacks of varying severity (none 'critical', in my opinion, one 'serious')
980 2012-09-17 23:52:38 <sipa> jgarzik: quite sure TD's leveldb branch does not gitian-compile
981 2012-09-17 23:52:44 <kjj_> what was the serious one?
982 2012-09-17 23:53:07 <diki> gavinandresen:I saw your explanation on critical vs serious, but is critical>serious?
983 2012-09-17 23:53:29 <gavinandresen> yes, critical is "you should upgrade RIGHT NOW"
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986 2012-09-17 23:55:31 <gmaxwell> kjj_: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/d5a52d9b3edaae6c273b732456d98e6b28ed7b31
987 2012-09-17 23:55:32 <diki> Is "generate" in the getmininginfo command supposed to be there when CPU mining in the client was disabled?
988 2012-09-17 23:55:37 <gmaxwell> has the recent DOS fixes.
989 2012-09-17 23:55:40 <Matt_von_Mises> Am I correct by saying that an input in a block can reference an output in the same block providing the output comes before the input referencing it?
990 2012-09-17 23:55:47 <sipa> Matt_von_Mises: correct
991 2012-09-17 23:55:49 <jgarzik> sipa: hrm
992 2012-09-17 23:56:24 <Matt_von_Mises> sipa: Thank you for confirming that.
993 2012-09-17 23:56:26 <sipa> jgarzik: also, if it's merged, i'll just add reverts of those commits to ultraprune (except the import of the leveldb lib itself), as i wrote my own "glue"
994 2012-09-17 23:56:47 RainbowDashh is now known as pomf_
995 2012-09-17 23:57:02 <sipa> Matt_von_Mises: that's why spending of 0-conf transactions is possible
996 2012-09-17 23:57:24 <jgarzik> sipa: didn't your ultraprune branch order the leveldb commits first? seems like we could just merge that part, prove it works, then merge the index changes
997 2012-09-17 23:57:40 <Luke-Jr> my 0.7.0 build does NOT match :<
998 2012-09-17 23:57:48 <Luke-Jr> or rather, bitcoind does, and bitcoin-qt does not
999 2012-09-17 23:57:49 <sipa> jgarzik: yes, but the leveldb commits at the start just import the library; it does not make bitcoin work using it
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1002 2012-09-17 23:58:37 <sipa> jgarzik: as TD had to write a wrapper around it to emulate CDB, which I don't need anymore (ultraprune just opens the block and coin databases once)
1003 2012-09-17 23:59:35 <jgarzik> sipa: it would be nice to move away from the current open-database-deep-in-callchain CDB stuff, indeed
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1005 2012-09-17 23:59:54 <Luke-Jr> gavinandresen: I thought we were on a "3 sigs before upload" rule?