1 2012-10-07 00:00:48 <CrazyMF> it works when i put my ip in -rpcallowip, is there a way to -rpcAllowFromIface ?
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  12 2012-10-07 00:39:07 <sipa> gmaxwell: yup
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  14 2012-10-07 00:40:31 <Diablo-D3> hrm
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  16 2012-10-07 00:41:17 <Diablo-D3> I wonder why lisp and forth type techniques arent used more often
  17 2012-10-07 00:42:01 <lianj> because of no tail recursion?
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  20 2012-10-07 00:44:43 <Diablo-D3> lianj: erm, lisp does tail recursion optimization fine
  21 2012-10-07 00:45:36 <Diablo-D3> well, several lisp compilers do
  22 2012-10-07 00:45:40 <lianj> yes, but other langs dont, thats part of why these techniques arent used often
  23 2012-10-07 00:45:49 <Diablo-D3> lianj: erm
  24 2012-10-07 00:46:00 <Diablo-D3> I mean the actual way programmers use the languages
  25 2012-10-07 00:46:05 <Diablo-D3> not the shit that goes on in the background
  26 2012-10-07 00:46:30 <sipa> closures are used in many languages these days
  27 2012-10-07 00:47:08 <sipa> and higher-order functions as well
  28 2012-10-07 00:47:25 * jgarzik is just used to living in a land where recursion is stack-busting evil ;p
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  30 2012-10-07 00:47:44 <jgarzik> recursion is for people who live in a land without ENOMEM
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  32 2012-10-07 00:48:03 <Diablo-D3> jgarzik: not true
  33 2012-10-07 00:48:06 <sipa> recursion if for people who have a compiler that does guaranteed tail call optimization
  34 2012-10-07 00:48:50 <Diablo-D3> I dunno, the way I view programming is largely independent processes with message busses
  35 2012-10-07 00:48:59 <gmaxwell> recursion is also fine if you know its bounded.
  36 2012-10-07 00:49:05 <sipa> Diablo-D3: you must love erlang
  37 2012-10-07 00:49:09 <Diablo-D3> recursion is... heh, what gmaxwell said
  38 2012-10-07 00:49:36 <Diablo-D3> sipa: I like a lot of erlangy concepts
  39 2012-10-07 00:49:47 <lianj> Diablo-D3: you must hate bitcoind :P
  40 2012-10-07 00:49:52 <Diablo-D3> lianj: a lot.
  41 2012-10-07 00:50:05 <Diablo-D3> a lot of the code is just really badly engineered
  42 2012-10-07 00:50:07 <Diablo-D3> and then it uses boost
  43 2012-10-07 00:50:08 <jgarzik> ...and being usable only under those restrictions, it becomes quite specialized and not necessarily portable
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  45 2012-10-07 00:50:32 <Diablo-D3> jgarzik: well, recursion isnt exactly that
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  47 2012-10-07 00:51:14 <Diablo-D3> a lot of recursion can be bounded, stopped at the end of the bound, ejected and then started back up
  48 2012-10-07 00:51:30 <jgarzik> HLL frippery
  49 2012-10-07 00:51:49 <Diablo-D3> I dont know why the fuck people just dont use loops for that shit
  50 2012-10-07 00:52:29 <sipa> wait... you want people to use loops, or to use recursion?
  51 2012-10-07 00:52:43 <Diablo-D3> sipa: no, Im saying most recursion is just done wrong
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  53 2012-10-07 00:54:25 <sipa> Diablo-D3: in compilers, or used by programmers?
  54 2012-10-07 00:54:30 <Diablo-D3> used by programmers
  55 2012-10-07 00:54:47 <Diablo-D3> most languages dont let you have unlimited stack sizes
  56 2012-10-07 00:54:59 <sipa> so it's badly implemented in compilers :)
  57 2012-10-07 00:56:25 <jgarzik> The net result is that recursion is very elegant in theory, but not so useful in practice ;p
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  59 2012-10-07 00:56:51 <Diablo-D3> jgarzik: most likely =/
  60 2012-10-07 00:57:31 <sipa> jgarzik: not in languages that try to stay close to machine-level
  61 2012-10-07 00:57:40 <sipa> (like C and derivatives)
  62 2012-10-07 00:58:14 <Diablo-D3> I dont know though, like, I'd love hardware that used shadowed register files and had an actual hardware message bus
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  64 2012-10-07 00:59:28 <Diablo-D3> like, hardware mssage bus at the cpu level
  65 2012-10-07 01:00:19 <Diablo-D3> actually, really, AMD's hypertransport exposed as cpu instructions
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  82 2012-10-07 01:25:34 <helo> stackless python?
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  87 2012-10-07 01:37:10 <arij> can some one help me with twitter bootstrap
  88 2012-10-07 01:37:25 <arij> i got it on my server
  89 2012-10-07 01:37:36 <arij> by doing git clone git:blahblahblah
  90 2012-10-07 01:37:42 <arij> now how do iextract it
  91 2012-10-07 01:37:59 <Diablo-D3> use zurb foundation
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  93 2012-10-07 01:38:34 <arij> whats that?
  94 2012-10-07 01:38:43 <Diablo-D3> same thing, less shit
  95 2012-10-07 01:39:21 <arij> i would rather just get this working
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 102 2012-10-07 01:45:34 <Diablo-D3> arij: trust me, you will be happier with foundation
 103 2012-10-07 01:46:45 <arij> how do i open the Malefile?
 104 2012-10-07 01:47:41 <Diablo-D3> its a Makefile, and you use make.
 105 2012-10-07 01:47:48 <arij> make makefile
 106 2012-10-07 01:47:52 <arij> LOL
 107 2012-10-07 01:47:52 <Diablo-D3> no, just make.
 108 2012-10-07 01:47:55 <arij> i meant makefile
 109 2012-10-07 01:47:57 <arij> not malefile
 110 2012-10-07 01:48:02 <Diablo-D3> FEMALEFILE
 111 2012-10-07 01:48:07 <Diablo-D3> actually, thats more like a directory.
 112 2012-10-07 01:48:14 <Diablo-D3> actually, thats more like an entire raid5.
 113 2012-10-07 01:48:26 <arij> \n##################################################
 114 2012-10-07 01:48:26 <arij> Building Bootstrap...
 115 2012-10-07 01:48:26 <arij> ##################################################\n
 116 2012-10-07 01:48:26 <arij> /bin/sh: jshint: command not found
 117 2012-10-07 01:48:27 <arij> make: *** [build] Error 127
 118 2012-10-07 01:48:32 <arij> :(
 119 2012-10-07 01:48:44 <Diablo-D3> it helps you have everything installed.
 120 2012-10-07 01:48:50 <arij> like
 121 2012-10-07 01:48:51 <arij> oh
 122 2012-10-07 01:49:48 <arij> npm install recess connect uglify-js jshint -g
 123 2012-10-07 01:49:59 <arij> but it says npm command not found
 124 2012-10-07 01:50:05 <arij> apt-get npm?
 125 2012-10-07 01:50:12 * Diablo-D3 facepalms
 126 2012-10-07 01:50:15 <arij> LOL
 127 2012-10-07 01:50:17 <arij> :(
 128 2012-10-07 01:50:42 <arij> so?
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 170 2012-10-07 03:00:39 <CrazyMF> yeah hey. more questions
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 172 2012-10-07 03:00:44 <CrazyMF> txn_count - when is it used?
 173 2012-10-07 03:01:08 <CrazyMF> there's no mention of it in 'block hashing algo', but it's in Protocol_specification#Block_Headers
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 175 2012-10-07 03:02:08 <Luke-Jr> CrazyMF: it immediately follows the block header
 176 2012-10-07 03:02:13 <Luke-Jr> before all the txn data
 177 2012-10-07 03:02:48 <CrazyMF> I see
 178 2012-10-07 03:02:57 <CrazyMF> but it's not used while mining ?
 179 2012-10-07 03:03:05 <Luke-Jr> nope
 180 2012-10-07 03:03:13 <CrazyMF> ok
 181 2012-10-07 03:03:21 <CrazyMF> trying to figure out the whole miner thing
 182 2012-10-07 03:03:23 <CrazyMF> in C
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 184 2012-10-07 03:04:18 <Luke-Jr> CrazyMF: check out libblkmaker source? :P
 185 2012-10-07 03:05:05 <Luke-Jr> http://gitorious.org/bitcoin/libblkmaker/trees/master
 186 2012-10-07 03:05:33 <CrazyMF> a bit difficult name to prononounce
 187 2012-10-07 03:05:51 <Diablo-D3> what is?
 188 2012-10-07 03:05:52 <Luke-Jr> lib block maker? :P
 189 2012-10-07 03:06:23 <CrazyMF> that makes sense
 190 2012-10-07 03:06:36 <Diablo-D3> who are you talking to?
 191 2012-10-07 03:07:01 <Luke-Jr> (ignore Diablo-D3, he's a troll)
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 193 2012-10-07 03:07:25 <CrazyMF> \/ignore
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 196 2012-10-07 03:09:16 <CrazyMF> 	send_json(req);
 197 2012-10-07 03:09:16 <CrazyMF> 	json_decref(req);  <-- aro those external dependencies?
 198 2012-10-07 03:09:30 <Luke-Jr> CrazyMF: send_json is part of the example.c
 199 2012-10-07 03:09:33 <Luke-Jr> json_decref is jansson
 200 2012-10-07 03:10:19 <CrazyMF> ok, lemme read more
 201 2012-10-07 03:10:41 <Luke-Jr> the actual algorithm is in blkmaker.c
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 203 2012-10-07 03:13:12 <CrazyMF> Also note that you should NOT roll ntime for data retrieved..... maxtime limits..    <-- is it the 2 hour or something thingie ?
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 205 2012-10-07 03:14:09 <Luke-Jr> CrazyMF: some pools might have stricter limits on the time header, but yes
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 210 2012-10-07 03:26:44 <CrazyMF> so this code went mainline?
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 213 2012-10-07 03:30:40 <Luke-Jr> CrazyMF: eh, mainline what?
 214 2012-10-07 03:31:19 <Luke-Jr> CrazyMF: that *is* mainline libblkmaker
 215 2012-10-07 03:31:45 <Luke-Jr> which is used for mainline BFGMiner
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 220 2012-10-07 03:47:05 <CrazyMF> I meant bitcoind getblocktemplate
 221 2012-10-07 03:48:11 <Luke-Jr> bitcoind GBT is just a minimal server-side
 222 2012-10-07 03:48:17 <Luke-Jr> libblkmaker is client-side
 223 2012-10-07 03:49:03 <CrazyMF> I never knew that server-side part existed before
 224 2012-10-07 03:49:07 <CrazyMF> makes the whole thing way easier
 225 2012-10-07 03:49:08 <CrazyMF> :D
 226 2012-10-07 03:49:36 <CrazyMF> btw. coinbase is reward+TX_fees ?
 227 2012-10-07 03:49:45 <Luke-Jr> a more complete server-side implementation is in Eloipool: http://gitorious.org/bitcoin/eloipool/trees/master
 228 2012-10-07 03:49:51 <Luke-Jr> yes
 229 2012-10-07 03:50:51 <CrazyMF> can't speak in python :D still interesting to browse
 230 2012-10-07 03:51:27 <Luke-Jr> >_<
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 233 2012-10-07 03:56:54 <CrazyMF> all the fees are listed in "Satoshis", how they are converted to BTC? x 0.0(..)1 ?
 234 2012-10-07 03:57:21 <Luke-Jr> 1 BTC = 100000000 satoshis
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 236 2012-10-07 03:58:31 <CrazyMF> some big numbers
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 242 2012-10-07 04:02:59 <jine> I should catch up with the mining-development again i think... Reading up on stratum and various other things.. :) Some nice progress.
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 245 2012-10-07 04:06:53 <gmaxwell> CrazyMF: it's pretty important to do bitcoin math with integers. lest some rounding screw you.
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 247 2012-10-07 04:10:29 <CrazyMF> yeah right, AVX extension on sandy/ivy bridge only does floats
 248 2012-10-07 04:10:52 <CrazyMF> not gonna convince me to switch into a 128 bit wide SIM registers
 249 2012-10-07 04:11:08 <CrazyMF> SIMD*
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 261 2012-10-07 04:27:13 <gmaxwell> CrazyMF: I'm not sure if you were joking, or ... some of the ideas that show up here are so weird its hard to tell.
 262 2012-10-07 04:27:36 <gmaxwell> (wrt AVX)
 263 2012-10-07 04:28:36 <CrazyMF> lol yeah. Using vectors to calculate fees :D
 264 2012-10-07 04:28:45 <CrazyMF> but it still bugs me to no end
 265 2012-10-07 04:29:14 <CrazyMF> that intel couldn't manage to fit new integer simds into *_bridge
 266 2012-10-07 04:29:27 <CrazyMF> ...wait til haswell
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 271 2012-10-07 04:36:14 <CrazyMF> noncerange - is this in the planes for being real?
 272 2012-10-07 04:36:18 <CrazyMF> plans*
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 368 2012-10-07 07:53:56 <Evilmax> i knows a btc address that returns back double of btc you send it
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 632 2012-10-07 15:46:20 <gmaxwell> Awesome: eldentyrell's FPGA images had an intentional undisclosed logic bomb that when the ntime because too large they started spitting out junk. Knocked out a bunch of hashpower:
 633 2012-10-07 15:46:24 <gmaxwell> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49971.msg1247263#msg1247263
 634 2012-10-07 15:46:52 <sipa> heh?
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 638 2012-10-07 15:50:49 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, shrug
 639 2012-10-07 15:51:25 <gmaxwell> People should hope that the asic miner's they're buying don't have similar features!
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 641 2012-10-07 15:52:17 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, i doubt they do since it's not a DRM thing
 642 2012-10-07 15:52:34 <phantomcircuit> the reason he's doing that is because he doesn't directly sell the FPGA
 643 2012-10-07 15:52:50 <phantomcircuit> so he's getting people to mine his blocks and he takes a fee using DRM
 644 2012-10-07 15:53:06 <phantomcircuit> bfl has no incentive to do that
 645 2012-10-07 15:53:21 <phantomcircuit> indeed at this point they'd probably get called scammers
 646 2012-10-07 15:53:30 <phantomcircuit> but hey who hasn't been called a scammer?
 647 2012-10-07 15:54:04 <gmaxwell> Me.
 648 2012-10-07 15:54:12 <gmaxwell> :P
 649 2012-10-07 15:54:29 <phantomcircuit> lies
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 651 2012-10-07 15:54:57 <ThomasV> gmaxwell: intentional??
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 653 2012-10-07 15:56:08 <gmaxwell> As phantomcircuit said, it was for DRM purposes.
 654 2012-10-07 15:56:35 <phantomcircuit> it seems like he basically forgot that it existed
 655 2012-10-07 15:56:37 <phantomcircuit> lawl
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 688 2012-10-07 16:32:19 <Luke-Jr> phantomcircuit: ironically, he's not even taking a fee yet
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 695 2012-10-07 16:43:17 <sipa> jgarzik: preference for a gettxout RPC: should it include memory-pool transactions?
 696 2012-10-07 16:43:29 <jgarzik> sipa: oooh, good question
 697 2012-10-07 16:43:37 <jgarzik> sipa: I suppose it needs a confirmations fields
 698 2012-10-07 16:43:38 <sipa> and similarly, should it exclude outputs consumed by the memory pool?
 699 2012-10-07 16:43:44 <jgarzik> *field
 700 2012-10-07 16:43:45 <sipa> yes, it will have a confirmations field anyway
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 702 2012-10-07 16:44:36 <jgarzik> sipa: yeah, I would include unspent mempool TXs (indicated by confirmations:0), but exclude spent ones (spent by other mempool TXs)
 703 2012-10-07 16:45:00 <sipa> that feels inconsistent
 704 2012-10-07 16:45:18 <sipa> maybe a boolean argument to include/exclude mempool?
 705 2012-10-07 16:45:44 <jgarzik> sipa: are you returning spent txout's, otherwise?
 706 2012-10-07 16:46:04 <sipa> no; spent txout don't exist
 707 2012-10-07 16:46:35 <jgarzik> sipa: good
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 709 2012-10-07 16:46:45 <jgarzik> sipa: then I would follow same policy for mempool
 710 2012-10-07 16:47:10 <sipa> so you either get an object with amount, confirmations, and txout script; or you get nothing
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 712 2012-10-07 16:47:45 <sipa> there is also no sound way to distinguish between spent and non-existing, so the RPC won't try to
 713 2012-10-07 16:50:11 <jgarzik> sipa: no sound way... without an additional index
 714 2012-10-07 16:50:27 <jgarzik> but yes, agree on RPC behavior
 715 2012-10-07 16:50:28 <gavinandresen> darn, have to leave just when the conversation here starts to get interesting....
 716 2012-10-07 16:50:53 <sipa> jgarzik: of course; with additional indexes everything is possible
 717 2012-10-07 16:52:51 <gavinandresen> ... having RPC features that only work if you run with optional indexing turned on might make sense.  Could be a testing nightmare, though.
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 720 2012-10-07 16:53:51 <sipa> gavinandresen: first want to get basic guaranteed behaviour right
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 722 2012-10-07 16:54:03 <sipa> optional indexes can do cool stuff, but it shouldn't be essential
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 724 2012-10-07 16:55:25 <jgarzik> distinguishing between spent and non-existing is not super-important, in this case
 725 2012-10-07 16:55:52 <jgarzik> just disagreeing with "no sound way"...  because it is very easy to do in pynode, with its all-tx index ;p
 726 2012-10-07 16:56:24 <jgarzik> but let's not get sidetracked.  proposed is OK
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 728 2012-10-07 16:57:26 <phantomcircuit> sipa, cool stuff like what?
 729 2012-10-07 16:57:49 <gmaxwell> certantly adding common network calls that need extra indexes is not a good thing where it can be avoided.
 730 2012-10-07 16:58:10 <sipa> phantomcircuit: things i think should be discouraged, like an address->txid map
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 732 2012-10-07 17:00:54 <phantomcircuit> sipa, hmm
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 735 2012-10-07 17:02:59 <Eliel_> sipa: how about a script hash -> txid map?
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 737 2012-10-07 17:03:34 <sipa> Eliel_: same thing
 738 2012-10-07 17:03:39 <Eliel_> why?
 739 2012-10-07 17:04:10 <sipa> because i think it's a bad idea of infrastructure starts relying on such indexes, while they're not necessary
 740 2012-10-07 17:04:45 <sipa> as i'd like the guaranteed service provided by bitcoin nodes to be as lightweight as possible
 741 2012-10-07 17:04:50 <gmaxwell> Eliel_: keep in mind this is for network facing calls.
 742 2012-10-07 17:05:00 <gmaxwell> For RPC facing calls it's a different question.
 743 2012-10-07 17:05:16 <Eliel_> ah, ok, now I get it
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 745 2012-10-07 17:06:53 <Eliel_> although, that makes me wonder how will light clients deal with it if there's days worth of blocks since that last time they were online. Download all blocks and transactions and discard the ones that are not in their own wallets?
 746 2012-10-07 17:08:04 <sipa> Eliel_: that's exactly how they work
 747 2012-10-07 17:08:19 <sipa> and in the future, they'll ask their peers to filter out anything they're not interested in
 748 2012-10-07 17:08:47 <Eliel_> isn't that an even heavier operation than a address -> txid mapping?
 749 2012-10-07 17:08:58 <sipa> no
 750 2012-10-07 17:09:07 <sipa> all you need for that is the blocks
 751 2012-10-07 17:09:17 <sipa> without any index
 752 2012-10-07 17:09:19 <sipa> and some nodes need the blocks anyway
 753 2012-10-07 17:09:43 <sipa> (sure you can speed up disk access by having an index, but that isn't required for correct operation)
 754 2012-10-07 17:11:14 <gmaxwell> What we want to avoid doing is creating infrastructure where people can assume random peers will happily carry expensive indexes for them so they can have no storage at all with their wallets.
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 756 2012-10-07 17:11:40 <gmaxwell> e.g. if we want to assume any storage that nodes must have, it should be storage thats required for the security properties of the network
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 758 2012-10-07 17:12:51 <kjj_> are you thinking of a very light client, like a phone app?
 759 2012-10-07 17:14:01 <gmaxwell> Like electrum. And we should make it possible for the reference client to support electrum like clients (all we need is an script->txid index and the right proxy), but not via the default p2p port.
 760 2012-10-07 17:14:29 <Eliel_> gmaxwell: so, what's the prevent someone from using the filtered block query as a substitute for address -> txid query?
 761 2012-10-07 17:14:50 <sipa> Eliel_: why should that be prevented?
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 763 2012-10-07 17:15:03 <sipa> it will be slow to do that for the entire history anyway
 764 2012-10-07 17:15:14 <gmaxwell> Eliel_: nothing. Other than that it'll be much slower for them than using a proper service for it.
 765 2012-10-07 17:15:28 <kjj_> gmaxwell: my minimal hardware wallet idea would use RPC
 766 2012-10-07 17:15:40 <gmaxwell> kjj_: yea, we're not talking about RPC here.
 767 2012-10-07 17:16:13 <Eliel_> gmaxwell: well, let's hope no-one creates a popular application that misuses it that way since a proper address -> txid doesn't exist.
 768 2012-10-07 17:16:34 <gmaxwell> Eliel_: whats to hope about there?
 769 2012-10-07 17:16:39 <gmaxwell> It's not like the world ends if they do.
 770 2012-10-07 17:16:44 <sipa> Eliel_: if someone does, i'm sure it will be so slow that an actual SPV node will be more useful
 771 2012-10-07 17:16:45 <kjj_> gmaxwell: you are talking about ways for devices without the blockchain to get the information they need to do transactions
 772 2012-10-07 17:16:48 <sipa> which i certainly encourage
 773 2012-10-07 17:17:41 <gmaxwell> It's self limiting. ... and if it turns out to be a bad decision it's always much easier to _add_ functionality than remove it, as removing it will break working things.
 774 2012-10-07 17:20:26 <Eliel_> well, the filter feature will likely end up optimized through an address/script hash -> txid map structure, so I guess a more limited direct query is not necessary.
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 790 2012-10-07 17:49:12 <jgarzik> amiller: pushed out some DHT fixes to pybond.git
 791 2012-10-07 17:49:18 <jgarzik> *poof*
 792 2012-10-07 17:50:00 <sipa> jgarzik: there you go; ultraprune branch updated with gettxout and gettxoutsetinfo RPCs
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 797 2012-10-07 17:56:16 <MC1984> sipa any new builds of your ultraprune stuff recently?
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 801 2012-10-07 18:01:29 <sipa> i can do a new one if you like
 802 2012-10-07 18:01:57 <sipa> there shouldn't be any spectacular improvements lately, but maybe improved stability
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 898 2012-10-07 19:22:17 <Joric> $11.7 shit
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 911 2012-10-07 19:37:00 <Diapolo> After reading a comment on a pull from gmaxwell, who pointed me to this site: http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/files/charts/ I'm asking myself, what needs to happen to send an Alert to users to upgrade. Are the vulnerabilities no severe enough to do so? Seems many did not yet update.
 912 2012-10-07 19:38:39 <Luke-Jr> Diapolo: the more recent vulns aren't a huge deal; you'll note the big-deal vulns are mostly upgraded
 913 2012-10-07 19:38:43 <Luke-Jr> and alerts went out for those
 914 2012-10-07 19:39:56 <Diapolo> that is fine, I just noticed your nice graphs :)
 915 2012-10-07 19:40:00 <Diapolo> and wanted to ask
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 946 2012-10-07 20:40:58 <sipa> the number of IPv6 nodes seems steadily rising; my crawler has already found 189, of which around 70 are currently or very recently reachable
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 994 2012-10-07 22:11:31 <xisalty> http://www.kclug.org/wiki/images/Luke_Jr0.jpg < ?
 995 2012-10-07 22:11:40 <xisalty> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117068.0
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 997 2012-10-07 22:13:07 <edcba> he looks a bit stoned...
 998 2012-10-07 22:14:04 <Diablo-D3> lol
 999 2012-10-07 22:14:21 <gmaxwell> xisalty: Whats that have to do with #bitcoin-dev?
1000 2012-10-07 22:14:39 <edcba> i guess Luke-Jr
1001 2012-10-07 22:14:44 <xisalty> he is a developer of bitcoin ?
1002 2012-10-07 22:15:34 <edcba> he is in the chan now of course that doesn't mean you should post anything relating to anyone in this chan :)
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1008 2012-10-07 22:24:33 <Luke-Jr> it's interesting how people think pictures are big secrets
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1010 2012-10-07 22:26:26 <edcba> this one should :)
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1018 2012-10-07 22:37:49 <B0g4r7> Does look a little blazed...or sleepless.
1019 2012-10-07 22:39:26 <edcba> yeah just bad timing
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1021 2012-10-07 22:39:47 <edcba> lugs don't do drugs
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