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13 2012-11-22 00:38:31 <sipa> BlueMatt: #1980 passed; you can switch back
14 2012-11-22 00:40:55 <sipa> jgarzik: well clearly if your test fails, and the one in bitcoin succeeds, the code is not identical?
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16 2012-11-22 00:51:35 <BlueMatt> sipa: thanks
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21 2012-11-22 01:07:27 <jgarzik> sipa: yes
22 2012-11-22 01:07:37 <jgarzik> sipa: and in trying to understand that failure, I need to understand the test
23 2012-11-22 01:07:43 <jgarzik> sipa: the test mentions a workaround
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25 2012-11-22 01:08:04 <jgarzik> Still not clear what, specifically, is that workaround
26 2012-11-22 01:08:18 <jgarzik> or where
27 2012-11-22 01:08:37 <jgarzik> the rest is my problem
28 2012-11-22 01:13:54 <sipa> jgarzik: what workaround?
29 2012-11-22 01:14:23 <sipa> ah
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31 2012-11-22 01:16:43 <BlueMatt> jgarzik: the workaround mentioned there is to do 2s-complement negation to make the number positive if it was negative
32 2012-11-22 01:16:50 <BlueMatt> jgarzik: but openssl does that for you
33 2012-11-22 01:17:19 <BlueMatt> the reason the workaround mentioned was broken is...dunno, but you should ignore that test unless only it fails and not the other negative der number test
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42 2012-11-22 01:48:12 <sipa> jgarzik: which tests fail, exactly?
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50 2012-11-22 02:16:17 <sipa> ;;bc,tslb
51 2012-11-22 02:16:19 <gribble> Time since last block: 41 minutes and 51 seconds
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56 2012-11-22 02:51:24 <D34TH> hey bluematt: you alive?
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60 2012-11-22 02:53:08 <etotheipi_> hey, my blkindex.dat got corrupt... how do I rebuild it with the existing blkxxxx.dat files without re-downloading?
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62 2012-11-22 02:56:39 <etotheipi_> sipa, gmaxwell: ^^ (and why is it so hard to find a list of command line options?)
63 2012-11-22 02:58:26 <Luke-Jr> etotheipi_: not possible
64 2012-11-22 02:58:38 <Luke-Jr> well, unless you want to use a bootstrap file
65 2012-11-22 02:59:02 <Luke-Jr> that'd work without re-downloading I gues
66 2012-11-22 02:59:10 <etotheipi_> wait, seriously?
67 2012-11-22 02:59:26 <etotheipi_> I thought there was a rebuild command for exactly this
68 2012-11-22 02:59:55 <Luke-Jr> not in any version using blkindex.dat
69 2012-11-22 03:00:14 <Cusipzzz> re-sync and it will rebuild
70 2012-11-22 03:01:20 <etotheipi_> then what is the point of packaging up blk0001.dat for people to download if there's no way to reindex it?
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72 2012-11-22 03:01:54 <muhoo> and what was the point of sanding my face off?
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74 2012-11-22 03:05:13 <etotheipi_> Luke-Jr: so what is the path of least resistance? deleting 4 GB of blkxxxx.dat so that it will redownload everything?
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76 2012-11-22 03:06:57 <Luke-Jr> etotheipi_: if you're using 0.7, cat blk000*.dat together to a new file called bootstrap.dat, then delete the blk*.dat
77 2012-11-22 03:07:42 <etotheipi_> okay.... that doesn't sound too hard..
78 2012-11-22 03:07:55 <etotheipi_> it will autodetect bootstrap.dat with no cmd options?
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80 2012-11-22 03:08:24 <Luke-Jr> 0.7.1 will
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87 2012-11-22 03:23:23 <etotheipi_> oh great... git-bash tells me that "cat: blk0002.dat: Permission denied" then ls -la tells me "-rw-r--r-- 18446744073405051255 bootstrap.dat"
88 2012-11-22 03:23:32 <etotheipi_> that's kinda a big file...
89 2012-11-22 03:28:10 <muhoo> holy sheep shit
90 2012-11-22 03:28:22 <muhoo> you may be recursively catting
91 2012-11-22 03:36:20 <D34TH> "connections" : 65,
92 2012-11-22 03:36:21 <D34TH> sigh
93 2012-11-22 03:38:01 <D34TH> wow
94 2012-11-22 03:38:09 <D34TH> its been a busy day for my node
95 2012-11-22 03:41:57 <Cusipzzz> set maxconnections in the config :)
96 2012-11-22 03:42:14 <D34TH> nah, it doesnt bother me
97 2012-11-22 03:42:28 <D34TH> i actually like having a high connection count
98 2012-11-22 03:42:31 <D34TH> it means im helping
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104 2012-11-22 03:53:24 <BlueMatt> D34TH: Im around
105 2012-11-22 03:53:58 <D34TH> I could totally host the artifacts for your jenkinds
106 2012-11-22 03:54:10 <D34TH> (mirror) or how ever you want to call them
107 2012-11-22 03:54:59 <BlueMatt> thanks, but jenkins is doing fine with hosting (and is about to get upgraded significantly in the coming days anyway)
108 2012-11-22 03:55:13 <D34TH> for me it was the download speeds
109 2012-11-22 03:55:22 <D34TH> thats why i wanted to offer
110 2012-11-22 03:55:37 <BlueMatt> odd...I wasnt aware of them being slow...but anyway, jenkins is moving in the next day or two so it should be better
111 2012-11-22 03:55:43 <BlueMatt> ping me in a week if its still slow
112 2012-11-22 03:55:48 <D34TH> will do
113 2012-11-22 03:55:52 <D34TH> also you should check output
114 2012-11-22 03:55:55 <D34TH> it is spammed alot
115 2012-11-22 03:56:04 <D34TH> the exe's seems fine
116 2012-11-22 03:56:08 <BlueMatt> you mean the console output?
117 2012-11-22 03:56:13 <D34TH> but the errors are a little weird
118 2012-11-22 03:56:15 <D34TH> yea
119 2012-11-22 03:56:56 <BlueMatt> which ones, specifically?
120 2012-11-22 03:57:10 <D34TH> i586-mingw32msvc-g++: -z: linker input file unused because linking not done
121 2012-11-22 03:57:11 <D34TH> i586-mingw32msvc-g++: relro: linker input file unused because linking not done
122 2012-11-22 03:57:11 <D34TH> i586-mingw32msvc-g++: -z: linker input file unused because linking not done
123 2012-11-22 03:57:11 <D34TH> i586-mingw32msvc-g++: now: linker input file unused because linking not done
124 2012-11-22 03:57:14 <D34TH> crap
125 2012-11-22 03:57:21 <D34TH> should have pastebinned
126 2012-11-22 03:57:31 <BlueMatt> ahh, those, dont know why those are there either
127 2012-11-22 03:57:56 <BlueMatt> but those seem like errors that would kill everything if they were real errors so...Im not too concerned
128 2012-11-22 03:59:57 <D34TH> what is relro
129 2012-11-22 04:00:14 <D34TH> oh
130 2012-11-22 04:00:15 <D34TH> google
131 2012-11-22 04:00:26 <D34TH> memory corruption mitigation
132 2012-11-22 04:02:01 <jgarzik> ahhhhhhhh
133 2012-11-22 04:02:05 <jgarzik> CHashWriter ss(SER_GETHASH, 0);
134 2012-11-22 04:02:05 <jgarzik> ss << txTmp << nHashType;
135 2012-11-22 04:02:05 <jgarzik> return ss.GetHash();
136 2012-11-22 04:02:12 <jgarzik> my signature hash was wrong
137 2012-11-22 04:02:21 <BlueMatt> looks like just issues that random linker flags are being passed to a compile job, but it should be safe to do so
138 2012-11-22 04:02:27 <jgarzik> because I just did hash(txtmp)
139 2012-11-22 04:02:31 <jgarzik> forgot nhashtype
140 2012-11-22 04:02:38 <BlueMatt> jgarzik: ahh
141 2012-11-22 04:02:41 <jgarzik> nothing wrong with pubkey or provided signatures
142 2012-11-22 04:03:12 <D34TH> hey jgarzikm do you know anything about the relro `issue`
143 2012-11-22 04:03:24 <BlueMatt> D34TH: looks like just issues that random linker flags are being passed to a compile job, but it should be safe to do so
144 2012-11-22 04:04:04 <jgarzik> D34TH: dropping -flto fixed relro-related issues for me on Fedora 17
145 2012-11-22 04:04:49 <D34TH> bluematt: try appending -flto
146 2012-11-22 04:05:01 <D34TH> if fixed, then we have a new pullreq
147 2012-11-22 04:05:30 <BlueMatt> how would that help?
148 2012-11-22 04:05:30 <BlueMatt> a. the issue is too many flags, not too few, b. the issue isnt in my scripts, its in bitcoin's makefiles
149 2012-11-22 04:07:25 <BlueMatt> if you want to fix it, go right ahead...
150 2012-11-22 04:07:31 <BlueMatt> but its not worth worrying about
151 2012-11-22 04:07:40 <D34TH> i dont get that issue
152 2012-11-22 04:09:22 <jgarzik> failures -= 15, whee
153 2012-11-22 04:09:31 <BlueMatt> nice!
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155 2012-11-22 04:11:38 * BlueMatt ponders a nexus 7 with xdmx and remote x server...drag window from pc to tablet and walk around campus?
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157 2012-11-22 04:13:21 <D34TH> sounds like fun
158 2012-11-22 04:13:29 <D34TH> only issue would be router hopping
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161 2012-11-22 04:14:22 <BlueMatt> yea, seems like latency would suck...I wonder if anyone here has used xdmx before?
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167 2012-11-22 04:21:37 <jgarzik> all but 2 tests working
168 2012-11-22 04:21:41 <jgarzik> time to figure this out one:
169 2012-11-22 04:21:45 <jgarzik> time to figure this one out:
170 2012-11-22 04:21:48 <jgarzik> ["The following tests for the presence of a bug in the handling of SIGHASH_SINGL
171 2012-11-22 04:21:48 <jgarzik> E"],
172 2012-11-22 04:21:48 <jgarzik> ["It results in signing the constant 1, instead of something generated based on the transaction,"],
173 2012-11-22 04:21:48 <jgarzik> ["when the input doing the signing has an index greater than the maximum output index"],
174 2012-11-22 04:22:24 <BlueMatt> look for the ml post on that one (Id recommend)
175 2012-11-22 04:23:08 <BlueMatt> Warning to rawtx creators: bug in SIGHASH_SINGLE
176 2012-11-22 04:23:15 <jgarzik> ahhhh, "return 1" != "return error"
177 2012-11-22 04:23:23 <BlueMatt> yep
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179 2012-11-22 04:32:09 <jgarzik> ok, that fixed that
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181 2012-11-22 04:32:41 <jgarzik> final test failing:
182 2012-11-22 04:32:43 <jgarzik> ["Same as above, but with the signature duplicated in the scriptPubKey with the proper pushdata prefix"],
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186 2012-11-22 04:44:16 <Arnavion> Nothing wrong with "time to figure this out one". It's perfect Singlish
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198 2012-11-22 04:56:52 <jgarzik> hmmmm
199 2012-11-22 04:57:11 <jgarzik> my checksig is giving SignatureHash a scriptCode one byte longer than bitcoind is doing
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226 2012-11-22 05:41:27 <knotwork> what does ERROR: mempool transaction missing input mean? tons of it in bitcoin log
227 2012-11-22 05:41:38 <knotwork> then bitcoind eventually died entirely
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244 2012-11-22 07:08:02 <jgarzik> w00t
245 2012-11-22 07:08:30 <jgarzik> all bugs conquered. missing that FindAndDelete was called on CScript(vchSig), not merely vchSig
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262 2012-11-22 08:34:59 <yellowhat> it should be possible to mine to a multisig address right? or are there any obivous obstacles?
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272 2012-11-22 09:48:13 <sipa> etotheipi_: 0.8 will have a -reindex to recreate the UTXO set and block index, but for 0.7... no
273 2012-11-22 09:49:56 <sipa> knotwork: which version?
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275 2012-11-22 09:52:44 <sipa> etotheipi_: in 0.7.1 you can use bootstrap.dat or -loadblock=<filename> to import blocks from disk, but you can't import directly from the blockfiles
276 2012-11-22 09:53:03 <sipa> that's what -reindex does, but it's only added for 0.8
277 2012-11-22 10:06:42 <abrkn> i'm confused about the move command
278 2012-11-22 10:06:52 <abrkn> it allows you to end up with negative balances on accounts?
279 2012-11-22 10:07:03 <abrkn> and moves do not show up sorted in listtransactions
280 2012-11-22 10:07:45 <sipa> yes, account balances can be negative
281 2012-11-22 10:08:18 <sipa> strange that they don't get sorted correctly
282 2012-11-22 10:09:29 <knotwork> "version" : 79900,
283 2012-11-22 10:09:29 <knotwork> "protocolversion" : 60002,
284 2012-11-22 10:09:46 <sipa> yes, 60002 is the latest protocol version
285 2012-11-22 10:09:48 <knotwork> I got it from github asd default latest version a week or two ago
286 2012-11-22 10:10:11 <knotwork> it complains its not for production use
287 2012-11-22 10:10:15 <sipa> it isn't
288 2012-11-22 10:10:29 <abrkn> sipa: is negative account balance by design? (sendfrom does not allow negative balances)
289 2012-11-22 10:10:34 <knotwork> because of this problem?
290 2012-11-22 10:11:07 <sipa> knotwork: because it's insufficiently tested
291 2012-11-22 10:11:22 <sipa> knotwork: and there have been very significant changes
292 2012-11-22 10:11:49 <knotwork> yes just pulled again and wow lots of changes will compile latest I guess
293 2012-11-22 10:12:21 <sipa> abrkn: negative balances are inevitable: you receive coins, you do a move to a different account, and then the original transaction gets reversed
294 2012-11-22 10:12:33 <sipa> abrkn: the result is a negative balance
295 2012-11-22 10:24:36 <abrkn> i see
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322 2012-11-22 12:13:59 <user4765231> hello! i read an article once about an security-patch for bitcoin adding additional features, any news in that regard?
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357 2012-11-22 14:32:10 <secp256k1> Trying to make ec-key test of libbitcoin: make -f development-makefile ec-key
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359 2012-11-22 14:32:57 <secp256k1> getting error: tests/ec-key.cpp:34:5: error: âextend_dataâ is not a member of âlibbitcoinâ
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361 2012-11-22 14:34:30 <secp256k1> checked the name space members and there is no extended_data defined
362 2012-11-22 14:41:07 <secp256k1> does it mean the test code is outdated?
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390 2012-11-22 15:48:08 <silur> Hello all
391 2012-11-22 15:49:09 <silur> Q: I am developing bitcoin payment solution and want to send/receive bitcoins back and forth to test between two accounts. Do i need to pay "fee" every time for ~BTC 0.05 transfers?
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393 2012-11-22 15:49:42 <forrestv> silur, you can use the testnet. i believe fees are lower there
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395 2012-11-22 15:49:54 <silur> bitcoin-qt forced me to pay fee to transfer 0.07
396 2012-11-22 15:50:04 <forrestv> (well of course they're lower in true value ... testnet coins are worthless)
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398 2012-11-22 15:54:42 <silur> So i not sure I understanding this "fee" business. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees - says it is "may be included" and "voluntary" and then goes into mind boggling calculation rules. So it seems that if I am ok to wait for slow transfer, i do not have to pay any fees for any amount of transfer? true/false ?
399 2012-11-22 15:54:57 <PovAddict> correct
400 2012-11-22 15:55:15 <sipa> silur: many nodes in the network have rules about transactions that look too spammy, and will refuse to relay them
401 2012-11-22 15:55:32 <sipa> the client tries to prevent your transaction from looking spammy by adding a fee
402 2012-11-22 15:55:43 <sipa> especially if you have a large transaction, fees are necessary
403 2012-11-22 15:55:52 <sipa> large as in bytes
404 2012-11-22 15:56:30 <silur> sipa, does number of Bitcoins I want to send and "bytes" are somehow related to each each?
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406 2012-11-22 15:57:32 <t7> not really
407 2012-11-22 16:00:50 <D34TH> silur, do you need testnet coins?
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409 2012-11-22 16:01:16 <silur> D34TH, I guess so! :) What are the rules of getting them and using testnet ?
410 2012-11-22 16:01:24 <D34TH> no rules?
411 2012-11-22 16:01:29 <D34TH> its the same as mainnet?
412 2012-11-22 16:01:34 <PovAddict> silur: you can mine them yourself
413 2012-11-22 16:01:37 <D34TH> addr
414 2012-11-22 16:01:47 <PovAddict> silur: or, since they are pretty damn worthless, someone can send them to you
415 2012-11-22 16:02:11 <PovAddict> or sell them to you for supercheap
416 2012-11-22 16:02:20 <D34TH> i give them away
417 2012-11-22 16:02:24 <D34TH> becuase its nice
418 2012-11-22 16:02:27 <D34TH> **because
419 2012-11-22 16:02:38 <silur> How can i create testnet addr? sorry for newbiish Q's
420 2012-11-22 16:02:49 <D34TH> bitcoin-qt -tesntet
421 2012-11-22 16:03:26 <PovAddict> does the client use a separate directory when in testnet mode?
422 2012-11-22 16:03:34 <D34TH> yep
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424 2012-11-22 16:04:29 <silur> D34TH, mxFu6jntL5Bvmj7vNCwR1oEYynZHk14k5A
425 2012-11-22 16:05:03 <silur> D34TH, (I created it via bitcoin-qt.exe -testnet, [New Address])
426 2012-11-22 16:05:11 <D34TH> sent
427 2012-11-22 16:05:44 <silur> D34TH, yay, thanks :) - so is "testnet" is a parallel "clone" of real bitcoin network?
428 2012-11-22 16:05:54 <PovAddict> silur: yes
429 2012-11-22 16:06:06 <D34TH> so its not as expensive to test on
430 2012-11-22 16:06:07 <D34TH> :D
431 2012-11-22 16:06:32 <PovAddict> silur: it has some changed rules to make the mining difficulty remain low
432 2012-11-22 16:06:45 <D34TH> wow i just spiked testnet diff
433 2012-11-22 16:06:49 <silur> D34TH, so testnet "blocks" are totally separate from real net?
434 2012-11-22 16:06:52 <D34TH> yep
435 2012-11-22 16:06:55 <sipa> silur: if you have tons of small coins only, any created transaction will be large
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437 2012-11-22 16:07:42 <silur> sipa, well, if i have one account of 0.05 to send to - is that "large" ?
438 2012-11-22 16:07:59 <PovAddict> silur: never know
439 2012-11-22 16:08:08 <silur> D34TH, thanks, i got 10 test BTC!
440 2012-11-22 16:08:27 <PovAddict> silur: I *think* it works a bit like real money
441 2012-11-22 16:08:42 <PovAddict> silur: if you pay $10 in cent coins your transaction ends up large
442 2012-11-22 16:08:44 <sipa> silur: depends on the size of the coins you're sending
443 2012-11-22 16:09:00 <PovAddict> but you can't easily know (eg. from the GUI) what change you have in your wallet :)
444 2012-11-22 16:09:11 <sipa> silur: if you need 1000 inputs to combine to get 0.05 because they're all 0.00005 BTC only, it will be large
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446 2012-11-22 16:10:15 <silur> sipa, what are "inputs" ? Input transactions that, when combined, evolve into 0.05?
447 2012-11-22 16:10:47 <sipa> silur: bitcoin internally uses coins: each transaction consumes some coins (by proving owner ship), and produces new coins (either assigned to yourself again, or to someone else)
448 2012-11-22 16:10:53 <PovAddict> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2267/2225462594_79ac2660b8.jpg large transaction illustrated
449 2012-11-22 16:11:23 <silur> PovAddict, lol, ok
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451 2012-11-22 16:11:27 <sipa> if you have a 5 BTC coin, and want to send 1 BTC to some, you'll do a transaction that consumes the 5 BTC coin, and creates a 1 BTC coin (assigned to your destination) and a 4 BTC coin (assigned to a change address owned by yourself)
452 2012-11-22 16:13:07 <silur> sipa, I mined 0.07 and sent from my PC wallet account to MtGox account. Although I didn't notice "chance of address" locally
453 2012-11-22 16:14:32 <sipa> the client does not show you the internal coins
454 2012-11-22 16:14:36 <sipa> how did you mine this?
455 2012-11-22 16:15:00 <silur> sipa, via GUIMiner, slush pool
456 2012-11-22 16:15:26 <silur> sipa, so my 0.07 consisted of 7 incoming transactions of 0.01
457 2012-11-22 16:16:04 <PovAddict> silur: what address?
458 2012-11-22 16:16:48 <silur> 1Ef9iYzMJaq4PYdZ4zf68EhcqEUNC6uGNa
459 2012-11-22 16:17:06 <silur> (when mined coins went into) and then went to MtGox
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461 2012-11-22 16:17:30 <PovAddict> damn bitcoinexplorer is slow
462 2012-11-22 16:18:26 <silur> So i not sure which address was "changed"? Above addr is still in bitcoin-qt GUI unchanged
463 2012-11-22 16:19:09 <PovAddict> http://blockchain.info/tx/645170b5a292743347ca116cb8a6b886dc3b5c1dc1ca6fbaac7656446ea0ee0f?show_adv=true
464 2012-11-22 16:19:47 <PovAddict> indeed the transaction took a bunch of ~0.01 coins
465 2012-11-22 16:20:29 <silur> PovAddict, ok, so that forced 0.001 fee, correct?
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467 2012-11-22 16:20:42 <PovAddict> apparently
468 2012-11-22 16:20:56 <sipa> silur: 7 inputs is probably enough to push the total transaction size above 1 kB
469 2012-11-22 16:21:23 <PovAddict> as said, you can choose not to send a fee, but then mining nodes may choose not to put your transaction in a block, which means the transaction may take longer to be confirmed
470 2012-11-22 16:21:51 <silur> PovAddict, so is it possible that no one, ever, will decide "put transaction in a block" ?
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472 2012-11-22 16:22:05 <sipa> silur: yes
473 2012-11-22 16:22:06 <silur> and transaction will be "refused?
474 2012-11-22 16:22:09 <silur> or something
475 2012-11-22 16:22:18 <sipa> miners have control over what they accept into blocks
476 2012-11-22 16:22:20 <PovAddict> let me check, there's a faq for that
477 2012-11-22 16:23:44 <silur> So if I sold something for 100 BTC in a brand new account and then transferred it somewhere else - do I need to pay a fee? It seems that it would be just one "input" ?
478 2012-11-22 16:25:00 <sipa> you never "need" to pay a fee, but under certain conditions the reference client will not allow you to create a transaction without, as it doesn't want to risk your transaction to be refused by the network
479 2012-11-22 16:25:23 <sipa> under those rules, it may be perfectly possible to send 1 million BTC in a transaction without fee
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481 2012-11-22 16:26:17 <silur> So this thing shows that Size==1082 bytes (above 1K): http://blockchain.info/tx/645170b5a292743347ca116cb8a6b886dc3b5c1dc1ca6fbaac7656446ea0ee0f?show_adv=true - that is a trigger for a fee demand?
482 2012-11-22 16:26:41 <PovAddict> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fee
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484 2012-11-22 16:29:17 <silur> I guess "fee" makes sense, although I have to admit - it's hard to grasp quickly
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486 2012-11-22 16:31:45 <silur> Now, I do development on PC1 with testnet coins that D34TH sent me. How can I transfer/import this "test" wallet into PC2 ?
487 2012-11-22 16:32:11 <D34TH> copy wallet.dat from testnet3/wallet.dat
488 2012-11-22 16:32:24 <D34TH> an put it in pc2's testnet3/wallet.dat
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491 2012-11-22 16:34:26 <silur> D34TH, thanks... More precisely: c:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin\testnet3
492 2012-11-22 16:34:35 <D34TH> silur, for ease of use
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494 2012-11-22 16:34:43 <D34TH> %APPDATA%\bitcoin\testnet3
495 2012-11-22 16:34:44 <silur> (On Windows 7) ... this too a while to figure out... Pieces spread all over
496 2012-11-22 16:35:02 <D34TH> because you can have different appdata directories
497 2012-11-22 16:35:13 <D34TH> and its easier to type
498 2012-11-22 16:35:21 <D34TH> try putting it in
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500 2012-11-22 16:35:31 <D34TH> it will bring you to the bitcoin testnet3 dir
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502 2012-11-22 16:38:07 <abrkn> jesus fuck how slow fetching chain is when you install bitcoind now
503 2012-11-22 16:39:41 <sipa> 0.8 should improve things a lot
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506 2012-11-22 16:43:01 <silur> So if bitcoins will "pick up
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508 2012-11-22 16:43:24 <silur> So if bitcoins will "pick up" mainstream, everyone will have to download 100GB of blocks?
509 2012-11-22 16:45:20 <kinlo> silur: no, we should have good thin clients at that moment
510 2012-11-22 16:45:43 <kinlo> have a look at electrum, that seems to be the best thin client out there
511 2012-11-22 16:45:52 <kinlo> it doesn't require any block chain downloading
512 2012-11-22 16:48:55 <Cusipzzz> abrkn: real slow lol
513 2012-11-22 16:49:25 <Cusipzzz> blame satoshidice, the first 150k blocks are pretty fast
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517 2012-11-22 16:50:14 <silur> kinlo, its says Electum download info from server. Which server - it doesn't say?
518 2012-11-22 16:50:26 <kinlo> you can choose afaik
519 2012-11-22 16:50:44 <kinlo> you can run your own if you'd like :)
520 2012-11-22 16:51:11 <kinlo> so basicly, you're going to have to use one that is supplied by someone from the community
521 2012-11-22 16:53:33 <silur> kinlo, i wonder if it could be used for development without running bitcoind
522 2012-11-22 16:53:51 <kinlo> depends on what oyu want to develop
523 2012-11-22 16:53:52 <PovAddict> abrkn: are you starting a new node?
524 2012-11-22 16:54:19 <PovAddict> abrkn: there's ways to make the initial sync faster, if you need that for yourself
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593 2012-11-22 20:01:47 <stevep> Is the bitcoin.it wiki still the primary place for managing BIPs? I noticed that the content for BIP-0016 and BIP-0030 is a little out of date.
594 2012-11-22 20:02:31 <sipa> compared to genjix' repository? yes the wiki is more up to date...
595 2012-11-22 20:03:24 <stevep> I updated BIP-0016 with a more accurate activation date and someone else recently marked it as active.
596 2012-11-22 20:04:07 <stevep> I think BIP-0030 https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0030 is currently active too but the wiki still has it as "Draft"
597 2012-11-22 20:05:26 <sipa> yup, definitely active
598 2012-11-22 20:06:14 <stevep> I'll dig out the relevant commit and mark it as active too.
599 2012-11-22 20:09:08 <stevep> Hey sipa it was you :) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/a206b0ea12eb4606b93323268fc81a4f1f952531
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603 2012-11-22 20:12:10 <sipa> stevep: yes :)
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607 2012-11-22 20:13:57 <stevep> sipa: Do you mind if update BIP-0030 to reflect the current reference implementation?
608 2012-11-22 20:14:43 <silur> Q: Is it normal that first 200K blocks download fast, and the remaining 10k is like 1 block per 5 minutes?
609 2012-11-22 20:14:58 <silur> or it's my connection/location ?
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611 2012-11-22 20:16:32 <stevep> silur: The initial download is normally very IO heavy. Is your hard disk light on constantly?
612 2012-11-22 20:16:52 <sipa> silur: before the last checkpoint (190000), signatures are not veirfied
613 2012-11-22 20:17:16 <sipa> afterwards, signature checking far outweighs the rest
614 2012-11-22 20:17:26 <sipa> silur: which version and hardware, btw?
615 2012-11-22 20:17:36 <Luke-Jr> tagged v0.7.2rc1
616 2012-11-22 20:18:17 <silur> Intel i7, Windows 7, 8 GB RAM
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618 2012-11-22 20:18:47 <silur> disk is flashing, but i have load of stuff running
619 2012-11-22 20:19:05 <Luke-Jr> sipa: can you build?
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622 2012-11-22 20:20:15 <sipa> Luke-Jr: i'll build this evening
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642 2012-11-22 20:54:46 <silur> Q: I "sudo apt-get install bitcoind" on Ubunty. How do i make sure it will restart automatically upon system restart?
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649 2012-11-22 21:11:06 <midnightmagic> I'm pretty sure bitcoind doesn't shut down fast enough to be part of a normal shutdown sequence in all cases.
650 2012-11-22 21:12:03 <sipa> current git head shuts down in less than a second normally
651 2012-11-22 21:12:09 <sipa> except during IBD
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656 2012-11-22 21:20:02 <TD> sipa: i think there is a needless 1 sec delay in leveldb shutdown. 1.7 removed it
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659 2012-11-22 21:22:18 <sipa> TD: ha, nice
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663 2012-11-22 21:35:16 <midnightmagic> sipa: I'm running that one for mining, even though it tells me not to. The speed is much, much nicer.
664 2012-11-22 21:36:08 <sipa> i really hope it has no bug in it (...anymore) that risks forking the chain
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667 2012-11-22 21:39:33 <D34TH> sipa: bugs are just undocumented features
668 2012-11-22 21:44:37 <jgarzik> sipa: have the two-chains-with-equal-work fix been pulled yet?
669 2012-11-22 21:45:36 <sipa> jgarzik: now it has
670 2012-11-22 21:45:59 <sipa> D34TH: ok, so thanksfully we did not undocumentedly switch to implementing an altchain :)
671 2012-11-22 21:46:06 <sipa> s/thanksfully/hopefully/
672 2012-11-22 21:46:12 <D34TH> close enough
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674 2012-11-22 21:46:32 <D34TH> "Chain 1 was taking up too much room. new chain is best chain"
675 2012-11-22 21:47:22 <jgarzik> :)
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678 2012-11-22 21:59:02 <sipa> Luke-Jr: bitcoinstrings.cpp has a massive change between 0.7.1 and 0.7.2rc1
679 2012-11-22 21:59:08 <sipa> is that expected?
680 2012-11-22 21:59:29 <sipa> oh, it's just tag formatting that changed
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683 2012-11-22 22:04:31 <gribble> 209111
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685 2012-11-22 22:08:31 <phantomcircuit> sipa, there were a bunch of Sleep() calls in shutdown and other places in an attempt to avoid a race condition some where
686 2012-11-22 22:08:34 <phantomcircuit> i forget the specifics
687 2012-11-22 22:08:36 <sipa> Luke-Jr: sorry, can't build right now; i only have mobile data right now, and building tries to update the apt cache
688 2012-11-22 22:08:43 <sipa> phantomcircuit: yes
689 2012-11-22 22:09:00 <sipa> phantomcircuit: but in normal circumstances those aren't triggered
690 2012-11-22 22:09:19 <sipa> (though there have been some buggy versions which always seemed to trigger them)
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