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5 2013-03-29 00:02:06 <gmaxwell> there was one even longer ago that had 139 btc in fees.
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8 2013-03-29 00:05:20 <muhoo> i do worry about BTC as just a store of value, because that value is predicated on being able to easily exchange it for USD or EU, etc. if the exchanges get frozen or shut don or heavily taxed, that value goes away
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16 2013-03-29 00:07:52 <muhoo> anyway, probably OT, nevermind.
17 2013-03-29 00:08:09 * muhoo gets back to work
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21 2013-03-29 00:09:03 <midnightmagic> muhoo: External microtransactions will become very worth it then I guess. :)
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27 2013-03-29 00:16:49 <warren> have people given up on the IRC micropayment bot?
28 2013-03-29 00:16:52 <warren> due to regulation
29 2013-03-29 00:17:32 <SomeoneWeird> warren, hmm?
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31 2013-03-29 00:18:19 <petertodd> warren: You could say I'm working on it, but only in the sense I'm working on infrastructure that will one day make one.
32 2013-03-29 00:18:54 <petertodd> warren: Someone else had a more direct approach, and yes, I hear they aren't so sure about releasing it.
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38 2013-03-29 00:29:41 <gmaxwell> inevitably it will show up and be crappy, poorly designed, and insecure... because everyone who knew better also knew the possible costs and didn't create one.
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50 2013-03-29 00:34:40 <mrkent> how often does orphaned blocks happen?
51 2013-03-29 00:34:51 <gmaxwell> roughly 1% of the time or so.
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64 2013-03-29 00:40:09 <mrkent> gmaxwell, what are they caused by?
65 2013-03-29 00:40:19 <gmaxwell> The finite speed of light.
66 2013-03-29 00:40:28 <gmaxwell> (ultimately)
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69 2013-03-29 00:42:39 <mrkent> gmaxwell, I see. Basically that two blocks were produced at arond the same time, and one just got more confirmations than the other?
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71 2013-03-29 00:43:45 <gmaxwell> Yes.
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74 2013-03-29 00:45:16 <Scrat> bitcoin should use tachyons
75 2013-03-29 00:45:22 <Scrat> this is an obvious oversight
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79 2013-03-29 00:52:17 <warren> Scrat: Satoshi did say he's moving on to "other things".
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91 2013-03-29 01:12:16 <JWU42> downloading blockchain on new VPS and keep getting the following "socket recv flood control disconnect (1234153 bytes)"
92 2013-03-29 01:12:45 <JWU42> that happens and then block download stops -- only solution seems to be stop and start bitcoind
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94 2013-03-29 01:13:46 <BlueMatt> hmm...can you give us the ip of the peer that is getting disconencted?
95 2013-03-29 01:14:06 <BlueMatt> and is it very close to your vps network-wise
96 2013-03-29 01:14:33 <JWU42> BlueMatt: one sec -- I think it is the same node each time disconnecting
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110 2013-03-29 01:31:00 <Diablo-D3> hey sipa, gmaxwell
111 2013-03-29 01:31:14 <Diablo-D3> have either of you seen an up to date report on internet traffic in the US?
112 2013-03-29 01:31:17 <Diablo-D3> Im looking for one
113 2013-03-29 01:31:31 <Diablo-D3> I found a cisco one thats up to date and includes a nice forecast, but its globally oriented
114 2013-03-29 01:32:02 * sipa knows nothing about the US
115 2013-03-29 01:32:15 <warren> sipa: neither do Americans
116 2013-03-29 01:32:19 <Diablo-D3> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/solutions/collateral/ns341/ns525/ns537/ns705/ns827/white_paper_c11-481360.pdf
117 2013-03-29 01:32:54 <Diablo-D3> according that, per month in 2012 the world used 43 EB
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120 2013-03-29 01:38:00 <jgarzik> sipa: BTW, once CNetMessage lands and is stable
121 2013-03-29 01:38:15 <jgarzik> sipa: I want to tackle converting the P2P code over to Boost::Asio
122 2013-03-29 01:38:21 <sipa> w00t
123 2013-03-29 01:38:55 <jgarzik> sipa: RPC server already uses it... and I really want Boost::Asio for timers. We use threads in several cases, when a timed-event would be easier, more appropriate and use less system resources.
124 2013-03-29 01:38:58 <Diablo-D3> not more boost =/
125 2013-03-29 01:39:16 <jgarzik> sipa: it's trivial to multi-thread boost io_services too
126 2013-03-29 01:39:32 <jgarzik> sipa: so we could parallelize ProcessMessage()
127 2013-03-29 01:39:32 <gmaxwell> the rpc asio stuff does a bunch of totally inexplicable memory allocation that is current irritating me.
128 2013-03-29 01:39:36 <Belxjander> Heya jgarzik ... Ive been looking at the pyminer sources
129 2013-03-29 01:39:45 <jgarzik> Belxjander: cute :)
130 2013-03-29 01:39:52 <jgarzik> gmaxwell: RPC asio is a nasty hack ;p
131 2013-03-29 01:39:58 <sipa> jgarzik: parallellizing ProcessMessage() won't be for tomorrow
132 2013-03-29 01:40:07 <jgarzik> sipa: for sure
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134 2013-03-29 01:40:09 <sipa> as it really needs cs_main
135 2013-03-29 01:40:09 <gmaxwell> it's also funny that we get a bunch of SSL state allocated even when not using ssl.
136 2013-03-29 01:40:21 <Belxjander> jgarzik: yeah...trying to learn the algorithm end of things as I have an AmigaOS system and want my wallet on that :)
137 2013-03-29 01:40:21 <Retik> doe anyone know where I could find a c# wrapper for the v2 MTGox API?
138 2013-03-29 01:40:23 <sipa> more network handler threads however, should be quite doable
139 2013-03-29 01:40:27 <jgarzik> sipa: just saying boost makes it easy for various I/O services to run in parallel, with multiple threads
140 2013-03-29 01:40:29 <jgarzik> yep
141 2013-03-29 01:41:18 <SomeoneWeird> is boost really _that_ good?
142 2013-03-29 01:41:27 <SomeoneWeird> Retik, doubtful
143 2013-03-29 01:41:41 <jgarzik> SomeoneWeird: no, but it's there and switching costs are high
144 2013-03-29 01:41:53 <SomeoneWeird> true
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147 2013-03-29 01:43:35 <sipa> gmaxwell: just did a valgrind --leak-check=full --show-reachable on #2420... almost everything is indeed RPC/asio related
148 2013-03-29 01:44:47 <sipa> does the RPC thread even exit at shutdown?
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150 2013-03-29 01:45:53 <gmaxwell> sipa: your commit message in 2420 needs some improvement. :P (I know what it isâ since we've been talking about it elsewhere)
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152 2013-03-29 01:48:20 <jgarzik> vnThreadsRunning[THREAD_RPCLISTENER]--;
153 2013-03-29 01:48:20 <jgarzik> while (!fShutdown)
154 2013-03-29 01:48:20 <jgarzik> io_service.run_one();
155 2013-03-29 01:48:20 <jgarzik> vnThreadsRunning[THREAD_RPCLISTENER]++;
156 2013-03-29 01:48:27 <jgarzik> sipa: AFAIK, yes
157 2013-03-29 01:48:42 <jgarzik> sipa: bloody inefficient way to poll for shutdown
158 2013-03-29 01:48:54 <sipa> haha
159 2013-03-29 01:49:01 <jgarzik> I think gavin cleaned that up, though, with his shutdown work
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162 2013-03-29 01:50:49 <sipa> i hope so :)
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166 2013-03-29 01:50:55 <sipa> gmaxwell: better?
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171 2013-03-29 01:56:25 <Retik> well if there isn't a v2 wrapper for c#, i'll just have to make one
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174 2013-03-29 01:58:44 <gmaxwell> sipa: thanks
175 2013-03-29 01:59:31 <Belxjander> is there anything special to the RPC?
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189 2013-03-29 02:09:04 <Retik> is anyone here really familiar with the v1/v2 mtgox APIs?
190 2013-03-29 02:09:32 <sipa> on #mtgox, people probably are?
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199 2013-03-29 02:21:29 <BlueMatt> is addnode broken for anything else?
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221 2013-03-29 02:38:38 <OneMiner> I wonder if you guys have seen this and if it may help. http://www.google.com/patents/opnpledge/patents/
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225 2013-03-29 02:43:48 <Belxjander> OneMiner: that may help since none of the BitCoin software would become competition to google (they provide a given service, and bitcoin would provide a link to that same service they provide?)
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227 2013-03-29 02:45:55 <OneMiner> http://www.google.com/patents/opnpledge/faq/#toc-criteria
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229 2013-03-29 02:46:35 <OneMiner> I think that shows that it's probably ok. Bitcoin is very free and very open source. So by that definition I can't imagine any problems.
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235 2013-03-29 02:50:34 <OneMiner> They speak of terminating the pledge in the event that someone brings a suit. Is that possible? If these patents are used that may mean that google can't be sued by "bitcoin". If they ripped off any bits of bitcoin and bastardized it, can you imagine The Bitcoin Foundation sueing them over it?
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237 2013-03-29 02:53:39 <Diablo-D3> erm
238 2013-03-29 02:53:39 <Belxjander> OneMiner: not really
239 2013-03-29 02:53:45 <Diablo-D3> its open source so how the fuck do you sue
240 2013-03-29 02:54:09 <OneMiner> I dunno. Heck, I've got literally zero idea if ANY of this is on topic at all.
241 2013-03-29 02:54:20 <Diablo-D3> btw, is it google suing or google being sued?
242 2013-03-29 02:54:32 <OneMiner> Nobody is suing anybody.
243 2013-03-29 02:54:35 <Diablo-D3> because the only person that could sue google from the bitcoin camp is satoshi
244 2013-03-29 02:54:57 <Diablo-D3> the rest of us dont have that right
245 2013-03-29 02:55:29 <Luke-Jr> Diablo-D3: Google Code demands a right to ignore your license terms if you use it
246 2013-03-29 02:55:37 <OneMiner> So in the event that Satoshi sues google it could fall apart. So, it sounds all good. The descriptions of the patents sounds like it's all about data sets. So... Bitcoin does that. Is good?
247 2013-03-29 02:55:50 <Diablo-D3> Luke-Jr: yup, and good'll do them if I license everything as BSD
248 2013-03-29 02:56:08 <Luke-Jr> Diablo-D3: BSD can be violated. remember SolidCoin?
249 2013-03-29 02:56:11 <Belxjander> Luke-Jr: well they can try with my own code but its deliberately brain-dead :)
250 2013-03-29 02:56:33 <OneMiner> Could it possibly be useful?
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252 2013-03-29 02:56:55 <Belxjander> the core core doesn't know what it Emulates without the plugins and the plugins are the core for each Emulation/VMM
253 2013-03-29 02:57:00 <Diablo-D3> >BSD
254 2013-03-29 02:57:03 <Diablo-D3> >violated
255 2013-03-29 02:57:08 <Diablo-D3> lol.
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292 2013-03-29 03:38:18 <digitalmagus> Hi, when trying to "make -f makefile.unix", I keep getting the following error message: "net.cpp:20:32: fatal error: miniupnpc/miniwget.h: No such file or directory"
293 2013-03-29 03:38:33 <digitalmagus> I've apt-get install miniupnpc but problem still persists
294 2013-03-29 03:38:40 <sipa> either build with USE_UPNP=-, or install libminiupnpc
295 2013-03-29 03:38:50 <sipa> libminiupnpc-dev
296 2013-03-29 03:38:59 <digitalmagus> the -dev on?
297 2013-03-29 03:39:01 <digitalmagus> one
298 2013-03-29 03:39:06 <digitalmagus> or both
299 2013-03-29 03:39:15 <sipa> both, but the dev one depends on the other :)
300 2013-03-29 03:39:23 <digitalmagus> ok thanks let me try that
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304 2013-03-29 03:40:21 <digitalmagus> no such package as "libminiupnpc"
305 2013-03-29 03:40:35 <digitalmagus> "E: Unable to locate package libminiupnpc"
306 2013-03-29 03:40:55 <doublec> digitalmagus: libminiupnpc-dev
307 2013-03-29 03:41:04 <sipa> $ aptitude search libminiupnpc
308 2013-03-29 03:41:05 <sipa> i libminiupnpc-dev - UPnP IGD client lightweight library development files
309 2013-03-29 03:41:08 <sipa> p libminiupnpc-dev:i386 - UPnP IGD client lightweight library development files
310 2013-03-29 03:41:11 <sipa> c libminiupnpc5 - UPnP IGD client lightweight library
311 2013-03-29 03:41:14 <sipa> i A libminiupnpc8 - UPnP IGD client lightweight library
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313 2013-03-29 03:41:26 <digitalmagus> So install the -dev one first?
314 2013-03-29 03:41:28 <sipa> but really just installing libminiupnpc-dev will pull in whatever's needed
315 2013-03-29 03:41:34 <digitalmagus> ah ok
316 2013-03-29 03:42:35 <digitalmagus> is it considered secure to compile with UPNPC enabled? Or is manual port forwarding recommended instead?
317 2013-03-29 03:42:57 <digitalmagus> from a security perspective
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319 2013-03-29 03:44:01 <sipa> if you're using a NAT device as a firewall, you're already doing it wrong :)
320 2013-03-29 03:44:12 <sipa> UPnP is designed to get around NAT, not to get through firewalls
321 2013-03-29 03:44:47 <digitalmagus> My modem is both a firewall and a nat device
322 2013-03-29 03:44:57 <digitalmagus> and it supports upnpc
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326 2013-03-29 03:48:17 <digitalmagus> btw, the 'make' seems to be chugging along now, so looks like it worked. I wish the docs had been updated with all these (and other steps I had to take) extra steps. Would have saved me a couple of hours of googling and head banging
327 2013-03-29 03:49:19 <sipa> what is missing?
328 2013-03-29 03:50:43 <sipa> Optional: sudo apt-get install libminiupnpc-dev (see USE_UPNP compile flag)
329 2013-03-29 03:50:50 <sipa> (from doc/build-unix.txt)
330 2013-03-29 03:51:15 <digitalmagus> sipa: the Ubuntu instructions in build-unix.txt list the following:
331 2013-03-29 03:51:34 <digitalmagus> sudo apt-get install build-essential
332 2013-03-29 03:51:34 <digitalmagus> sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
333 2013-03-29 03:51:34 <digitalmagus> sudo apt-get install libdb4.8-dev
334 2013-03-29 03:51:34 <digitalmagus> sudo apt-get install libdb4.8++-dev
335 2013-03-29 03:51:35 <digitalmagus> sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
336 2013-03-29 03:51:35 <digitalmagus> sudo apt-get install libqrencode-dev
337 2013-03-29 03:51:36 <digitalmagus> ------------
338 2013-03-29 03:51:40 <digitalmagus> What's actually required is:
339 2013-03-29 03:51:47 <digitalmagus> apt-get install build-essential
340 2013-03-29 03:51:47 <digitalmagus> apt-get install libssl-dev
341 2013-03-29 03:51:47 <digitalmagus> apt-get install libdb-dev
342 2013-03-29 03:51:47 <digitalmagus> apt-get install libdb++-dev
343 2013-03-29 03:51:47 <digitalmagus> apt-get install libboost-all-dev
344 2013-03-29 03:51:47 <digitalmagus> apt-get install libqrencode-dev
345 2013-03-29 03:51:47 <digitalmagus> apt-get install miniupnpc
346 2013-03-29 03:51:48 <digitalmagus> apt-get install libminiupnpc-dev
347 2013-03-29 03:51:50 <digitalmagus> -----------
348 2013-03-29 03:52:07 <sipa> you don't need miniupnpc, that's the command-line client
349 2013-03-29 03:52:07 <digitalmagus> the 4.8 stuff doesnt work with the latest version of ubuntu for example
350 2013-03-29 03:52:23 <digitalmagus> sipa: you dont need it, but it still breaks by default
351 2013-03-29 03:52:28 <sipa> sigh
352 2013-03-29 03:52:28 <digitalmagus> because UPNP=1 is the default
353 2013-03-29 03:52:33 <sipa> yes
354 2013-03-29 03:52:39 <sipa> well new versions of ubuntu don't have BDB 4.8, but you still need it if you want wallets that are compatible
355 2013-03-29 03:53:07 <sipa> a section about modern ubuntu's may be welcome (feel free to submit a pull req!), but it's not exactly wrong
356 2013-03-29 03:53:08 <digitalmagus> From the perspective of a newbie this is head-banging furstrating and took me over 2 hours to sort out.... from the perspective of a linux/bitcoin expert, this probably takes all of 2 minutes to work around
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358 2013-03-29 03:54:14 <digitalmagus> Thanks for your help though :)
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360 2013-03-29 03:54:58 <Blaster> hey I used this method to recover bereklydb .dat files from my HDD (lost access to my wallet) - and I am left with a directory of 120 .dat files. How can I narrow them down to ones that are actual bitcoin wallets? (http://www.cyplo.net/2012/04/01/bitcoin-wallet-recovery-photorec/)
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363 2013-03-29 04:05:29 <digitalmagus> sipa: I wanted miniupnpc, because it's precisely the commandline that I wanted. I'm not trying to build the miner or the wallet
364 2013-03-29 04:05:57 <digitalmagus> I am hoping to be able to query the block-chain directly, so I can data mine it
365 2013-03-29 04:06:30 <Belxjander> sipa: so ALL bitcoin clients use bdb4.8 formatted wallet.dat files?
366 2013-03-29 04:06:47 <jgarzik> Belxjander: no
367 2013-03-29 04:07:00 <jgarzik> Belxjander: custom builds may link with whatever they want
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369 2013-03-29 04:07:24 <Belxjander> jgarzik: I'm talking about the content of the wallet itself
370 2013-03-29 04:07:34 <Belxjander> does it have any special formatting for client to client compatability?
371 2013-03-29 04:08:08 <sipa> digitalmagus: 'miniupnpc' is a command-line UPnP client; 'libminiupnpc' is the library that Bitcoin uses for UPnP
372 2013-03-29 04:08:27 <digitalmagus> oh
373 2013-03-29 04:08:39 <sipa> digitalmagus: and both bitcoind and bitcoin-qt have a built-in miner and wallet
374 2013-03-29 04:08:52 <sipa> the difference is that the former lacks a GUI
375 2013-03-29 04:09:02 <digitalmagus> I see
376 2013-03-29 04:09:04 <jgarzik> Belxjander: "formatting" can mean many things. bitcoin stores wallet data as key/value pairs, in a special binary format. BDB is the low level format on-disk, below that.
377 2013-03-29 04:09:06 <sipa> (and the miner is reference only, not practically useful)
378 2013-03-29 04:09:22 <Belxjander> jgarzik: the data key/value pairing
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380 2013-03-29 04:09:48 <jgarzik> Belxjander: that is a bitcoin-specific, custom format
381 2013-03-29 04:09:50 <digitalmagus> sipa: So if I wanted to query the block-chain file on my hard drive, to for example, determine the change in difficulty over the last week. What's the approriate tool for that?
382 2013-03-29 04:10:17 <Belxjander> jgarzik: good then I need to impliment that for an AmigaOS based Wallet tool
383 2013-03-29 04:10:28 <sipa> digitalmagus: there are some python tools if you want to inspect the block files themself, but for what you're saying, the RPC interface to bitcoind is probably easiest
384 2013-03-29 04:10:58 <digitalmagus> sipa: is there a doc that explains how to use the RPC interface in bitcoind?
385 2013-03-29 04:11:26 <sipa> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/API_reference_(JSON-RPC)
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387 2013-03-29 04:11:47 <sipa> may not be entirely up to daye; you can use ./bitcoind help <commandname> for some built-in information
388 2013-03-29 04:12:08 <sipa> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Original_Bitcoin_client/API_Calls_list
389 2013-03-29 04:12:15 <digitalmagus> cool, let me check that out. If I had any bitcoins, or fractions thereof, I'd donate you some :)
390 2013-03-29 04:12:33 <sipa> no need
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423 2013-03-29 05:16:51 <bergle> hi all. I am attempting to learn here so bare with me pls, how do i manually generate the ecsda private key to ultimately generate my bitcoin address?
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429 2013-03-29 05:25:17 <MrStamp> Hello, I installed bitcoin-server-0.8.1-2.el6.x86_6 on Centos 6.3, from RPMs at http://linux.ringingliberty.com/bitcoin/. When I try to run it, I get the error '/usr/lib64/bitcoin/bitcoind: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib64/bitcoin/bitcoind: undefined symbol: EC_KEY_free'
430 2013-03-29 05:26:04 <MrStamp> this was an issue on a previous version (https://github.com/error10/bitcoin/issues/1), the recommendation is to upgrade, but this is the latest version I believe
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434 2013-03-29 05:31:34 <iwilcox> Sounds like whoever packaged it didn't build it properly and/or didn't specify all dependencies. I think you need to talk to them directly.
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444 2013-03-29 05:48:17 <owowodopolous> ;bc,mktcap
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446 2013-03-29 05:48:27 <owowodopolous> ;;bc,mktcap
447 2013-03-29 05:48:29 <gribble> 989979107.868
448 2013-03-29 05:48:58 <owowodopolous> i alway forget the ; :oP
449 2013-03-29 05:49:05 <bergle> the part im stuck on is when you take a phrase and sha256 it, how does that get into the 256bit number that is the ecdsa key?
450 2013-03-29 05:49:09 <warren> MrStamp: either he screwed up his RPM build or you need to install his special openssl-compat
451 2013-03-29 05:49:29 <warren> MrStamp: I'm surprised that his rpm would install without demanding the library
452 2013-03-29 05:49:40 * warren means to redo his repo correctly sometime.
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456 2013-03-29 05:52:45 <MrStamp> warren: thanks, that got me on the right track. The repo contains an openssl-compat-bitcoin RPM, but it did not get installed automatically. After I installed it, bitcoind starts
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458 2013-03-29 05:53:09 <iwilcox> MrStamp: Be sure to comment on the bug report then.
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462 2013-03-29 06:00:03 <MrStamp> thanks all, I have submitted them a bug report
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467 2013-03-29 06:11:41 <warren> MrStamp: they probably have to outright rename their soname for rpm to pull it, or add an explicit Requires: openssl-compat-bitcoin
468 2013-03-29 06:11:54 <warren> MrStamp: or simpler ... static link openssl
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473 2013-03-29 06:20:07 <digitalmagus> When I run: ./bitcoind getnetworkhashps 220000
474 2013-03-29 06:20:07 <digitalmagus> I get: error: {"code":-1,"message":"value is type str, expected int"}
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476 2013-03-29 06:20:30 <digitalmagus> what am I doing wrong? Isn't 220000 a valid block number to get the network hashrate for?
477 2013-03-29 06:21:02 <digitalmagus> it's expecting an integer... isn't 220000 a valid integer?
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482 2013-03-29 06:25:56 <Arnavion> Is getnetworkhashps even a valid RPC call?
483 2013-03-29 06:26:01 <Arnavion> I don't see it in bitcoinrpc.cpp
484 2013-03-29 06:27:15 <gmaxwell> it's some patched up copy of bitcoin
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486 2013-03-29 06:27:32 <digitalmagus> sorry I cheated... it's from litecoind :P
487 2013-03-29 06:27:50 <Arnavion> Indeed... litecoin has it
488 2013-03-29 06:28:27 <digitalmagus> I'm wanting to extract the networkhashrate/sec over a period of time from the block-chain. I figured this RPC call might be the correct one
489 2013-03-29 06:28:35 <digitalmagus> how does one do that in bitcoind ?
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495 2013-03-29 06:37:20 <Luke-Jr> this isn't #scams either
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502 2013-03-29 06:43:07 <zaroth> Google is not being my friend. Does anyone where I could find the typical explanatory table showing the stack vs op_codes at each step of the script eval for a m-of-n being redeemed by OP_0 [sig][sig][sig]?
503 2013-03-29 06:43:16 <zaroth> *know
504 2013-03-29 06:43:45 <zaroth> strangely the BIP11 proposal doesn't both to include one :-)
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507 2013-03-29 06:45:16 <gmaxwell> zaroth: why would they? this is day one functionality in bitcoin, not something added by bip 11
508 2013-03-29 06:45:51 <gmaxwell> zaroth: I'm not aware of such a tableâ but if you have a more specific question I can probably answer.
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510 2013-03-29 06:47:20 <zaroth> just trying to follow exactly what the stack looks like and how OP_CHECKMULTISIG burns through it depending on the different values given for m and n. guess I could go look at some of the multi-sig unit tests some more
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512 2013-03-29 06:49:27 <zaroth> have any txids handy of some P2SH multi-sig transactions on the chain?
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514 2013-03-29 06:52:56 <zaroth> Like this one for example... its a 2-of-3 you created a month ago http://blockchain.info/tx/837dea37ddc8b1e3ce646f1a656e79bbd8cc7f558ac56a169626d649ebe2a3ba (https://gist.github.com/gavinandresen/3966071)
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518 2013-03-29 06:57:14 <zaroth> I see the P2SH scriptPubKey {OP_HASH160 f815b036d9bbbce5e9f2a00abd1bf3dc91e95510 OP_EQUAL} and the scriptSig {OP_0 pub pub script}
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520 2013-03-29 06:59:21 <zaroth> Just trying to follow how that 4th value in scriptSig gets handled
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523 2013-03-29 07:01:24 <zaroth> What am I missing -- I expected to see "2 <pub> <pub> <pub> 3 OP_CHECKMULTISIG somewhere on blockchain.info ?
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526 2013-03-29 07:04:59 <gmaxwell> OP_CHECKMULTISIG pops an extra element off the stack for not particular reasonâ it's a bug in the original code.
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529 2013-03-29 07:10:28 <zaroth> understood, that's what OP_0 is in there for. I don't even actually see the CHECKMULTISIG in blochain/blockexplorer UI?
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531 2013-03-29 07:10:49 <MC1984_> if someone gets into your bitcoind via the RPC interface
532 2013-03-29 07:10:51 <gmaxwell> welp, for that you'd have to ask them.
533 2013-03-29 07:10:52 <MC1984_> what can they do
534 2013-03-29 07:10:56 <gmaxwell> MC1984_: steal all your funds.
535 2013-03-29 07:11:02 <MC1984_> welp
536 2013-03-29 07:11:27 <gmaxwell> MC1984_: sendtoaddres 1MEMEMEME 1allyourmoniez.00btc
537 2013-03-29 07:11:39 <MC1984_> does the interface have any rate limiting and stuff
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539 2013-03-29 07:12:40 <MC1984_> i love how bitcoind loaded all the shit THEN told me i forgot bitcoin.conf
540 2013-03-29 07:13:42 <gmaxwell> It doesn't expose itself to the internet normally. It's not ratelimited however.
541 2013-03-29 07:14:06 <MC1984_> its a different port to the p2p port right
542 2013-03-29 07:14:15 <gmaxwell> yes
543 2013-03-29 07:14:27 <zaroth> I guess they just don't de-serialize the script which is at the end of the P2SH scriptSig -- any quick tool to do that?
544 2013-03-29 07:14:32 <MC1984_> that makes sense
545 2013-03-29 07:16:06 <gmaxwell> zaroth: not that I can think of.
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548 2013-03-29 07:28:44 <zaroth> k, thanks
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556 2013-03-29 07:38:44 <MC1984_> i wonder if excepting bitcoin.exe in my antivirus would help somewhat
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567 2013-03-29 07:52:46 <MC1984_> wow bitcoind is over 10 minuts just starting up
568 2013-03-29 07:52:54 <MC1984_> more like 20 actually
569 2013-03-29 07:53:10 <MC1984_> if it is stillstarting up, maybe its running and it just hasnt told me
570 2013-03-29 07:53:49 <MC1984_> i started it with -debug and i have no output after that
571 2013-03-29 07:54:14 <denisx> MC1984_: then just fire a getinfo
572 2013-03-29 07:54:26 <MC1984_> wat
573 2013-03-29 07:54:36 <denisx> MC1984_: all commandline, right?
574 2013-03-29 07:54:41 <denisx> bitcoind getinfo
575 2013-03-29 07:55:18 <MC1984_> im on th windows
576 2013-03-29 07:55:24 <MC1984_> it wont accept input either
577 2013-03-29 07:55:36 <denisx> hmm, then I don't know
578 2013-03-29 07:55:55 <gmaxwell> MC1984_: this is on your fairly slow machine right?
579 2013-03-29 07:56:09 <gmaxwell> MC1984_: ohhh
580 2013-03-29 07:56:12 <MC1984_> 1.6ghz
581 2013-03-29 07:56:27 <gmaxwell> MC1984_: it's just running in the forground because you didn't tell it -daemon=1
582 2013-03-29 07:56:35 <gmaxwell> in another terminal run bitcoind getinfo
583 2013-03-29 07:56:57 <denisx> I use "--daemon"
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585 2013-03-29 07:57:18 <gmaxwell> denisx: I would be surprised if that worked.
586 2013-03-29 07:57:35 <denisx> works all the time
587 2013-03-29 07:57:49 <denisx> but I'm on freebsd
588 2013-03-29 07:57:54 <MC1984_> i got "version" : 80000000
589 2013-03-29 07:57:57 <MC1984_> etc
590 2013-03-29 07:58:04 <denisx> then it runs
591 2013-03-29 07:58:27 <MC1984_> aww i wanted a scrolling log of what its doing and stuff
592 2013-03-29 07:58:41 <MC1984_> instead i get a useless dosbox cluttering up my bar
593 2013-03-29 07:59:01 <gmaxwell> MC1984_: look at debug.log
594 2013-03-29 07:59:31 <MC1984_> yeah i know but i thought it would print the contents of debug log in the window too
595 2013-03-29 07:59:43 <MC1984_> this isnt as hacker as id hoped sigh
596 2013-03-29 08:00:05 <MC1984_> needs a -verbose
597 2013-03-29 08:00:05 <gmaxwell> MC1984_: it can...
598 2013-03-29 08:00:11 <gmaxwell> if you start it with uh..
599 2013-03-29 08:00:14 <denisx> first thing to be a hacker is to drop this windows OS
600 2013-03-29 08:00:34 <MC1984_> yah i know windows plebian etc
601 2013-03-29 08:00:39 <gmaxwell> MC1984_: start with -printtoconsole
602 2013-03-29 08:00:44 <gmaxwell> and that will print to console
603 2013-03-29 08:00:50 <Detritus> Yeah, it helps if you actually read documentation
604 2013-03-29 08:00:53 <gmaxwell> (instead of debug.log)
605 2013-03-29 08:01:20 <gmaxwell> MC1984_: or do it like the big boys and tail -f path/to/debug.log (I suppose you'll need cygwin for that)
606 2013-03-29 08:01:25 <MC1984_> and -daemon=1 does what?
607 2013-03-29 08:01:37 <denisx> start in background
608 2013-03-29 08:01:52 <gmaxwell> MC1984_: puts it in the background so it doesn't just tie up that terminal
609 2013-03-29 08:01:57 <MC1984_> so it becomes a service?
610 2013-03-29 08:02:19 <denisx> it becomes a daemon
611 2013-03-29 08:02:30 <gmaxwell> I assume being a service in window implies more than just detaching.
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613 2013-03-29 08:02:43 <gmaxwell> MC1984_: and yea, why are you running windows again? :P
614 2013-03-29 08:02:44 <denisx> thats why it is called bitcoind
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616 2013-03-29 08:03:06 <MC1984_> i could run linux but im confortably numb
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618 2013-03-29 08:03:38 <MC1984_> i think i used to dual boot suse actually
619 2013-03-29 08:04:11 <MC1984_> how do i cleanly exit bitcoind from the terminal
620 2013-03-29 08:04:24 <MC1984_> just kill it?
621 2013-03-29 08:04:25 <gmaxwell> MC1984_: run bitcoind stop
622 2013-03-29 08:04:42 <MC1984_> ok cool
623 2013-03-29 08:05:51 <MC1984_> cool its tailing debug.log now
624 2013-03-29 08:06:19 <MC1984_> you see as w windows user if a program is not showing me constant signs of life i have to assum its crashed hard
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627 2013-03-29 08:08:24 <MC1984_> it seems to be using slightly less ram without the gui which is nice
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630 2013-03-29 08:13:25 <MC1984_> i seem to have lost the last 100 blocks after rstarting bitcoind how odd
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632 2013-03-29 08:14:29 <MC1984_> oh no i never had them, disregard
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645 2013-03-29 08:32:26 <Blaster> is there a method to determine whether a berkely DB .dat file is a BTC wallet or not
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647 2013-03-29 08:35:23 <gmaxwell> Blaster: ask the person who gave it to you?
648 2013-03-29 08:36:17 <Blaster> PhotoRec gave it to me
649 2013-03-29 08:36:24 <Blaster> 192 .dat berkeley db files
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656 2013-03-29 08:40:44 <MC1984_> ct mempool accept is incoming txn relays right
657 2013-03-29 08:41:02 <MC1984_> and poolz 312 means i have 312 txn in my mempool
658 2013-03-29 08:41:25 <gmaxwell> yes
659 2013-03-29 08:41:33 <gmaxwell> you can see it with getrawmempool
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662 2013-03-29 08:43:14 <MC1984_> cool
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665 2013-03-29 08:47:00 <tre-spective> so as a test i sent a transaction without any fee at all, still unconfirmed :) that certainly wont happen again
666 2013-03-29 08:47:41 <MC1984_> when?
667 2013-03-29 08:48:05 <gmaxwell> tre-spective: lots of transactions happily get confirmed without fees... just depends on their priority
668 2013-03-29 08:48:25 <midnightmagic> I for example haven't paid a fee in like a year. Feels like a year anyway.
669 2013-03-29 08:48:37 <tre-spective> hmm.. weird
670 2013-03-29 08:48:41 <tre-spective> been a few hours atleast
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672 2013-03-29 08:49:13 <tre-spective> https://blockchain.info/tx/1a575e0b20f092b5a47184c0424d23e6df52d18f9306dde607e0e66b4ebe4091
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685 2013-03-29 08:59:33 <Belxjander> random question... current bitcoin implimentations are transaction verifications... can you include a message in the transaction as well? or does bitcoin simply not support that kind of data transfer inside the transactions?
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687 2013-03-29 09:03:48 <RoboTeddy> Belxjander: jump to slide 11: http://dankaminsky.com/2011/08/05/bo2k11/
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694 2013-03-29 09:07:41 <Belxjander> RoboTeddy: thanks... looking now
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717 2013-03-29 09:26:22 <_dr> RoboTeddy: interesting read
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719 2013-03-29 09:27:18 <MC1984> Error: Couldn't open socket for incoming connections (socket returned error 1004
720 2013-03-29 09:27:18 <MC1984> 7)
721 2013-03-29 09:27:31 <MC1984> this isnt terrible right
722 2013-03-29 09:27:52 <Habbie> ddress family not supported by protocol family.
723 2013-03-29 09:27:57 <Habbie> Address family not supported by protocol family. even
724 2013-03-29 09:28:42 <topi`> what's the right procedure to import an old wallet? (from 0.3.0 times) .. or rather the privkeys in that wallet. I suppose you need some command line option in Bitcoin-Qt
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726 2013-03-29 09:29:46 <gmaxwell> topi`: you just run with the wallet.
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729 2013-03-29 09:30:07 <topi`> hm, good point
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731 2013-03-29 09:30:24 <topi`> is it possible to "share" the blockchain with the secondary wallet?
732 2013-03-29 09:30:50 <topi`> so a 0.3.0 wallet is totally compatible with today's software?
733 2013-03-29 09:31:06 <gmaxwell> wumpus: thanks for closing that pull, everytime I saw an update on it ... it irritated me again.
734 2013-03-29 09:31:16 <gmaxwell> topi`: yep, should be compatible.
735 2013-03-29 09:31:24 <gmaxwell> topi`: no not possible to share.
736 2013-03-29 09:31:33 <topi`> good to know
737 2013-03-29 09:31:37 <gmaxwell> (you can swap the files out, shutting down between)
738 2013-03-29 09:31:52 <gmaxwell> actually multiwallet support is in the works thoughâ so you can run multiple wallets at once.
739 2013-03-29 09:32:19 <Belxjander> gmaxwell: that would be very nice
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741 2013-03-29 09:33:10 <gmaxwell> Belxjander: if you want to see it become a realityâ test it!
742 2013-03-29 09:34:01 <Belxjander> gmaxwell: need to make things work on AmigaOS for me... no linux/windows/mac available to compile with
743 2013-03-29 09:34:52 <gmaxwell> Belxjander: run linux in qemu
744 2013-03-29 09:34:54 <gmaxwell> :P
745 2013-03-29 09:36:50 <Belxjander> gmaxwell: no qemu on AmigaOS
746 2013-03-29 09:36:56 <Belxjander> and qemu doesn't run AmigaOS
747 2013-03-29 09:37:27 <Goonie> Is there a bitcoin-qt for an old Mac G4 somewhere?
748 2013-03-29 09:37:51 <Belxjander> but I am needing to write my own AmigaOS BitCoin software anyway
749 2013-03-29 09:37:59 <Belxjander> I may as well see if I can write up "multiple wallet" handling
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762 2013-03-29 09:44:13 <MC1984> is there a list of rpc commands anywhere
763 2013-03-29 09:44:19 <MC1984> im looking on the wiki but cant find
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765 2013-03-29 09:44:38 <denisx> keypoololdest means oldest unused key?
766 2013-03-29 09:44:50 <Habbie> MC1984, https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Original_Bitcoin_client/API_Calls_list
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768 2013-03-29 09:45:18 <MC1984> thanks
769 2013-03-29 09:49:15 <gmaxwell> denisx: yes
770 2013-03-29 09:49:19 <gmaxwell> MC1984: bitcoind help
771 2013-03-29 09:49:26 <gmaxwell> (better than any list on the wiki)
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774 2013-03-29 09:50:04 <denisx> hmm, the keypool is enough for 4 days for me
775 2013-03-29 09:50:08 <denisx> I should increase taht
776 2013-03-29 09:51:32 <MC1984> oooo the diff is not actually integer
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779 2013-03-29 09:53:50 <denisx> MC1984: the diff is only the proportion between target and 0x00000000ffff00000000...
780 2013-03-29 09:53:59 <denisx> and the target is actually an integer
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782 2013-03-29 09:54:51 <MC1984> 6695826.28259625
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784 2013-03-29 09:55:17 <denisx> yes, but that is not used to check the blockhash
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786 2013-03-29 09:55:36 <MC1984> oh
787 2013-03-29 09:55:49 <denisx> it just shows how many times it is harder to find a block than diff1
788 2013-03-29 09:57:46 <denisx> and diff1 = 0x00000000ffff0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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790 2013-03-29 10:00:43 <digitalmagus> Is there a good technical document (not beginner's document) that explains how brute force mining actually works?
791 2013-03-29 10:00:56 <kadoban> is there some technical reason why the bitcoin-qt client doesn't let me encrypt a message to a given bitcoin address? it'd be possible, right? (the opposite of signing basically)
792 2013-03-29 10:01:14 <MC1984> lol i think i turned the generator on
793 2013-03-29 10:02:01 <gmaxwell> kadoban: address? it's not technically possible.
794 2013-03-29 10:02:15 <gmaxwell> kadoban: an address is a hash of a public key, it is not the public key itself.
795 2013-03-29 10:02:36 <kadoban> oh...right, ya i guess that would explain it
796 2013-03-29 10:02:42 <kadoban> haha, thanks
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800 2013-03-29 10:13:37 <MC1984> is there a reason mempool accepts seem to be quite 'bursty' in the log?
801 2013-03-29 10:13:47 <MC1984> big groups coming through at once
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803 2013-03-29 10:14:08 <MC1984> i would have thought network chatter would be fairly constant
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805 2013-03-29 10:17:44 <Belxjander> would it be plausible to run a local "bitcoind" that had no GUI or user access at all and run local programs that use a library to talk to it through the RPC interface by scripting them?
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807 2013-03-29 10:18:13 <gmaxwell> uh. yes.
808 2013-03-29 10:19:42 <MC1984> isnt that what its meant for
809 2013-03-29 10:20:12 <gdsl_afk> Morning beautifull people
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811 2013-03-29 10:20:54 <gdsl> bitcoinforecast.com 12 hour forecast: 89.838, 3 months target: 200.722
812 2013-03-29 10:21:05 <gdsl> Latest*
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815 2013-03-29 10:21:52 <Habbie> Wij passen uw bankrekeningnummer aan
816 2013-03-29 10:21:53 <Habbie> oops
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832 2013-03-29 10:47:21 <denisx> uh, in 20 years the block reward halving and a difficutly recalculation will be on the same block
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835 2013-03-29 10:50:11 <MC1984> is that bad
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838 2013-03-29 10:51:02 <denisx> MC1984: I don't know, it simply has never happened before
839 2013-03-29 10:51:33 <MC1984> how did you work that out
840 2013-03-29 10:52:07 <denisx> 210000 * 6 / 2016 = even number
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847 2013-03-29 10:52:53 <denisx> so it will happen on block 1260000
848 2013-03-29 10:55:55 <Graet> sounds like a good time to schedule a hardfork
849 2013-03-29 10:56:00 * Graet ducks and runs
850 2013-03-29 10:56:10 <MC1984> well at least we have a rough timeframe fo the end of the world now
851 2013-03-29 10:56:15 <MC1984> better thant he asteroid thing
852 2013-03-29 10:56:59 <denisx> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=least+common+multiple+210000+2016
853 2013-03-29 10:57:00 <denisx> ;)
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857 2013-03-29 11:02:47 <MC1984> shit p2pool takes as much memory as bitcoin
858 2013-03-29 11:02:57 <MC1984> gonna hav to give up
859 2013-03-29 11:03:10 <MC1984> welp i tried
860 2013-03-29 11:03:25 <skinnkavaj> How do you import private keys to Bitcoin-qt!?!???
861 2013-03-29 11:03:44 <MC1984> rpc interface?
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907 2013-03-29 11:39:10 <giuseppe_> How can I list all transactions within a block, starting from a CBlockIndex* data structure?
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944 2013-03-29 12:15:24 <giuseppe_> CBlockIndex* g_block1 = FindBlockByHeight(1);
945 2013-03-29 12:15:24 <giuseppe_> CBlock block;
946 2013-03-29 12:15:24 <giuseppe_> block.ReadFromDisk(g_block1);
947 2013-03-29 12:15:44 <sipa> yes?
948 2013-03-29 12:16:03 <giuseppe_> It was the answer to my previous question.
949 2013-03-29 12:16:09 <sipa> oh, the question came earlier
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951 2013-03-29 12:16:19 <sipa> seems right to me
952 2013-03-29 12:16:36 <sipa> then iterate over block.vtx
953 2013-03-29 12:16:43 <giuseppe_> yes!
954 2013-03-29 12:17:50 <skinnkavaj> so who is creating the new lagfree mtgox?
955 2013-03-29 12:18:54 <giuseppe_> I'm studying to create a tool to analyze transactions
956 2013-03-29 12:19:43 <giuseppe_> I'm at the very beginning!
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958 2013-03-29 12:21:12 <giuseppe_> Is timing information in a block? How can I get the exact date at which a block was generated? Just by keeping in mind that blocks are generated each 6 minutes?
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960 2013-03-29 12:21:31 <ashod> hello everyone.. -
961 2013-03-29 12:21:54 <Habbie> giuseppe_, i'm pretty sure the timestamp is in there
962 2013-03-29 12:22:13 <giuseppe_> how can you trust that timestamp?
963 2013-03-29 12:22:34 <sipa> giuseppe_: it is part of the block, so part of the hashed data
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965 2013-03-29 12:23:01 <sipa> giuseppe_: network rules state that it must be later than the medium of the past 11 blocks' timestamos
966 2013-03-29 12:23:26 <giuseppe_> ah ok! There is a rule!
967 2013-03-29 12:23:37 <sipa> and clients as a policy do not accept blocks with a timestamp more than 2 hours in the future
968 2013-03-29 12:23:44 <ashod> sorry to interrupt - but I recall, when I ran bitcoind on a server it warned me about incorrect time - what potential problems could arise from running a server with the wrong time ? ]
969 2013-03-29 12:23:48 <sipa> so there is some window for inaccuracy
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972 2013-03-29 12:25:11 <giuseppe_> ashod: i think you can't validate new transactions, because you have incorrect timestamp.
973 2013-03-29 12:26:29 <sipa> ashod: a few secobds won't hurt, but minutes/hours off will risk not accepting the correct chain
974 2013-03-29 12:27:07 <ashod> @sipa and what's the best way to have the correct time ? - what's the source
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980 2013-03-29 12:29:41 <ashod> ntp ? -
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983 2013-03-29 12:32:22 <ashod> sorry was that a stupid question ?
984 2013-03-29 12:33:24 <rdponticelli> ashod: Yeah, ntp should do it ok
985 2013-03-29 12:34:39 <ashod> thanks - and does my computers clock have to be set to a certain timezone - ?
986 2013-03-29 12:34:50 <Habbie> no
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988 2013-03-29 12:35:32 <rdponticelli> ashod: Whichever fits you
989 2013-03-29 12:35:37 <sipa> ntp is fine
990 2013-03-29 12:35:48 <sipa> hardware clock doesn't matter
991 2013-03-29 12:36:47 <ashod> Can you tell me , how it detects if my clock is in or out of time ?
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995 2013-03-29 12:43:08 <MC1984> verifying last 288 blocks at level 3
996 2013-03-29 12:43:15 <MC1984> what are these levels
997 2013-03-29 12:43:23 <MC1984> i have a vague rememberance
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1000 2013-03-29 12:44:22 <sipa> MC1984: they got new meaning in 0.8
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1002 2013-03-29 12:44:39 <MC1984> yes thats what i remember
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1006 2013-03-29 12:49:54 <sipa> MC1984:
1007 2013-03-29 12:50:08 <sipa> level 0: just read blocks from disk
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1009 2013-03-29 12:50:37 <sipa> level 1: verify standalone block validity
1010 2013-03-29 12:51:04 <sipa> level 2: read and verify checksum of undo data
1011 2013-03-29 12:51:54 <sipa> level 3: check for inconsistencies betwern coinstate and nlocks
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1013 2013-03-29 12:52:31 <sipa> level 4: effectively redo full verification of last blocks (including signature checks)
1014 2013-03-29 12:53:49 <MC1984> ok thanks
1015 2013-03-29 12:54:50 <sipa> level 3 and level are limited by -dbcache, as thry require an undo/redo replay of the blocks in memory
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1017 2013-03-29 12:59:26 <MC1984> wow bitcoind.exe is 60mb
1018 2013-03-29 12:59:45 <Scrat> MC1984: nice 50mb trojan you got there
1019 2013-03-29 12:59:47 <Scrat> :p
1020 2013-03-29 13:00:30 <MC1984> bitcoin.org is handing out trojans?
1021 2013-03-29 13:00:35 <MC1984> shit we should tell someone
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1029 2013-03-29 13:05:32 <Eliel_> Scrat: what are you referring to? I didn't quite get the joke.
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1032 2013-03-29 13:06:25 <MC1984> strange it just did a whole chunk of processblocks at once
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1035 2013-03-29 13:07:34 <Scrat> Eliel_: that his bitcoind.exe is 60mb
1036 2013-03-29 13:07:47 <MC1984> back down to 51mb!
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1039 2013-03-29 13:09:29 <Scrat> Eliel_: nvm, it was lame
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1041 2013-03-29 13:11:14 <MC1984> !blocks
1042 2013-03-29 13:11:15 <gribble> 228583
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1044 2013-03-29 13:11:32 <MC1984> is it me or are bloks going really fast
1045 2013-03-29 13:13:03 <Scrat> MC1984: are you a chav?
1046 2013-03-29 13:13:26 <MC1984> no m8
1047 2013-03-29 13:13:46 <Scrat> "no m8 innit"
1048 2013-03-29 13:14:03 <MC1984> il do u now
1049 2013-03-29 13:14:43 <MC1984> why would a chav like bitcoins
1050 2013-03-29 13:15:32 <Scrat> there are a few tech savvy chavs
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1056 2013-03-29 13:16:04 <jackieh> can someone help me understand the warning on http://blockexplorer.com/q/addressbalance?
1057 2013-03-29 13:16:05 <MC1984> theyre not chavs, just lower class
1058 2013-03-29 13:16:17 <MC1984> chav is a state of mind
1059 2013-03-29 13:16:32 <jackieh> how does having bitcoins sent from an address but not sent by the person owning the address work?
1060 2013-03-29 13:17:08 <MC1984> !blocks
1061 2013-03-29 13:17:08 <gribble> 228585
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1063 2013-03-29 13:17:18 <MC1984> 2 blocks in 6 minutes
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1065 2013-03-29 13:17:36 <sipa> jackieh: first of akk, you do not send bitcoins "from" an adress; coins are individual entities
1066 2013-03-29 13:17:38 <Scrat> jackieh: because in the common use case (ie. bitcoin-qt) it sends coin from quite a few addresses (including change addresses)
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1068 2013-03-29 13:18:22 <sipa> jackieh: and wallets try to make an abstracrion by showing your coins as a single balance
1069 2013-03-29 13:18:36 <sipa> even though they may be coins assigned to tons of addresses
1070 2013-03-29 13:18:55 <jackieh> what do you mean by change addresses Scrat?
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1072 2013-03-29 13:20:00 <Scrat> jackieh: explained in detail here https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Change
1073 2013-03-29 13:20:17 <jackieh> awesome, thank you
1074 2013-03-29 13:20:43 <Scrat> almost all your outgoing transactions will generate a hidden change address (it's just hidden from the UI)
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1094 2013-03-29 13:35:43 <MC1984> !blocks
1095 2013-03-29 13:35:44 <gribble> 228586
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1098 2013-03-29 13:37:01 <FREESATOSHI> https://instawallet.org/w/gywb8XDrTW9Lwa1eu2pflZOkV8gwptJ5w <- FREE BITCOIN
1099 2013-03-29 13:37:01 <FREESATOSHI> https://instawallet.org/w/gywb8XDrTW9Lwa1eu2pflZOkV8gwptJ5w <- FREE BITCOIN
1100 2013-03-29 13:37:01 <FREESATOSHI> https://instawallet.org/w/gywb8XDrTW9Lwa1eu2pflZOkV8gwptJ5w <- FREE BITCOIN
1101 2013-03-29 13:37:02 <FREESATOSHI> https://instawallet.org/w/gywb8XDrTW9Lwa1eu2pflZOkV8gwptJ5w <- FREE BITCOIN
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1126 2013-03-29 13:56:40 <pegu> !ticker
1127 2013-03-29 13:56:40 <gribble> BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.73000, Best ask: 87.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 87.75000, 24 hour volume: 150244.81237909, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 94.99000, 24 hour vwap: 86.73526
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1139 2013-03-29 14:08:57 <Graet> anyone awake with ops that can stop the spam in -mining please?
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1143 2013-03-29 14:19:11 <Luke-Jr> Graet: you have ops in there.. O.o
1144 2013-03-29 14:19:40 <Graet> since when? no-one told me i had
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1147 2013-03-29 14:20:49 <Luke-Jr> Graet: since nearly a 10 months ago :p
1148 2013-03-29 14:21:44 <Graet> oh ok
1149 2013-03-29 14:21:47 <Graet> cheers
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1151 2013-03-29 14:23:42 <Graet> shame i didnt know lol, oh well
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1156 2013-03-29 14:31:45 <ashod> whats the largest number of transactions known of in a block ?
1157 2013-03-29 14:31:48 <denisx> how can I check my pw for the encrypted wallet is still correct without making a transaction?
1158 2013-03-29 14:32:26 <sipa> denisx: walletpassphrase rpc
1159 2013-03-29 14:32:39 <sipa> denisx: or debug console
1160 2013-03-29 14:32:45 <denisx> sipa: yep, swa that right now
1161 2013-03-29 14:32:52 <denisx> simply forgot how it worked
1162 2013-03-29 14:34:58 <sipa> ashod: #976
1163 2013-03-29 14:35:08 <sipa> ashod: sorry, £976
1164 2013-03-29 14:35:12 <sipa> grr!
1165 2013-03-29 14:35:19 <sipa> 1976!
1166 2013-03-29 14:35:38 <kinlo> not EUR976?
1167 2013-03-29 14:35:46 <sipa> block 225203
1168 2013-03-29 14:37:11 <ashod> thanks sipa, - whats the upper limit - is there a max ?
1169 2013-03-29 14:38:43 <sipa> blocks are limited to 1000000 bytes
1170 2013-03-29 14:39:01 <sipa> and typical transactions are around 250 bytes
1171 2013-03-29 14:39:55 <ashod> so, block 225023 takes 500k, so would an upper max limit of around 4000 transactions be correct ?
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1173 2013-03-29 14:41:11 <MC1984> probably the one that broke bitcoin lol
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1175 2013-03-29 14:42:15 <sipa> no, that one was 970 kB
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1177 2013-03-29 14:43:07 <sipa> but had fewer (but larger) transavtions
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1179 2013-03-29 14:44:29 <ashod> http://blockexplorer.com/block/000000000000033818fb20338be1fe1b223f7018bdad8ee4cea5f396cf5523e8
1180 2013-03-29 14:44:36 <ashod> shows : Size?: 500.06 kilobytes
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1182 2013-03-29 14:44:50 <sipa> yes
1183 2013-03-29 14:45:14 <sipa> but i'm talking about the recent forking block
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1186 2013-03-29 14:47:10 <MC1984> oh i thought it had like 10,000 txn in it
1187 2013-03-29 14:47:23 <ashod> how often do you guys rely on blockexplorer.com ?
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1189 2013-03-29 14:53:35 <kinlo> ashod: you should have all data locally in your bitcoinclient
1190 2013-03-29 14:54:10 <kinlo> given that you added the correct index, you should be able to query everything you can query on blockexplorer from your local client
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1193 2013-03-29 14:55:46 <ashod> i understand - why does blockexplorer exist though ?
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1196 2013-03-29 14:57:10 <Graet> third party sites are made by ppl all over the place
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1198 2013-03-29 14:57:41 <Graet> why does ant bitcoin related site exist ? because someone took the time to make it :)
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1208 2013-03-29 15:02:03 <ashod> sure, - but as developers, it's refered to often, - just curious
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1211 2013-03-29 15:06:30 <Luke-Jr> ashod: once upon a time, bitcoind didn't have getblock or getrawtransaction
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1213 2013-03-29 15:08:33 <ashod> ok thanks - makes sense
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1233 2013-03-29 15:25:04 <skinnkavaj> OPERATION APRIL FOOLSCOIN
1234 2013-03-29 15:25:05 <skinnkavaj> http://pastebin.com/h7iGK49T
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1240 2013-03-29 15:27:47 <jgarzik> skinnkavaj: off topic, please post that stuff elsewhere
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1255 2013-03-29 15:39:34 <Luke-Jr> [15:13:41] <elgrecoFL> Just for fun, we decided to make a satoshidice pool that will run on Fridays at 4pmEDT. Anyone who wants to participate should send in his contribution to: 1Pt4idw17nuesz1MvbYAS9DgTXce6tGNPa
1256 2013-03-29 15:39:36 <Luke-Jr> [15:13:41] <elgrecoFL> At 4pm on Fridays, we will keep rolling 0.01BTC bets at the 64000x level and stop only if we hit or go bankrupt. If we hit, each address will be paid out in proportion to what they contributed. Like I said, this is just for fun. There will be no fee or anything. IÂm thinking 0.1BTC will be the standard and minimum contribution, but you can send whatever you want above 0.1BTC. Let me know if you have any
1257 2013-03-29 15:39:37 <Luke-Jr> questions.
1258 2013-03-29 15:40:33 <Luke-Jr> hmm, I should have corrupted the address in that
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1265 2013-03-29 15:46:10 <MC1984> wow id be stupid not to, thanks Luke-Jr
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1268 2013-03-29 15:46:38 <Eliel_> ... what's the point?
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1270 2013-03-29 15:47:33 <Eliel_> that just alters the chances and your potential payoff a little.
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1272 2013-03-29 15:48:00 <Eliel_> you could probably get the same odds playing the 16000x or 8000x versions yourself
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1276 2013-03-29 15:53:39 <Jezzz> Eliel_: that was a message sent to a very small channel of 12 members
1277 2013-03-29 15:53:51 <Jezzz> it's meant to be fun. kind of like an office lottery pool.
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1279 2013-03-29 15:54:11 <Jezzz> for some reason, Luke-Jr decided he'd also like to invite 500+ members in this channel
1280 2013-03-29 15:54:13 <Jezzz> :/
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1286 2013-03-29 15:57:22 <MC1984> its just like a work lottery syndicate
1287 2013-03-29 15:57:41 <MC1984> a bit of fun, and then epic shitstorm of drama if you actually win and funds must be disbursed
1288 2013-03-29 15:58:11 <Jezzz> precisely :)
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1292 2013-03-29 16:01:04 <Eliel_> MC1984: well, I suppose the social aspect could be more interesting than actually winning anything from it.
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1297 2013-03-29 16:10:07 <mrkent> How does one parse the blockchain?
1298 2013-03-29 16:10:38 <mrkent> sorta like how blockchain.info does it with constant updates?
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1303 2013-03-29 16:13:14 <Jezzz> mrkent: with bitcoind
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1305 2013-03-29 16:14:18 <mrkent> Jezzz, which command?
1306 2013-03-29 16:14:30 <Jezzz> several
1307 2013-03-29 16:14:41 <mrkent> and is it possible to run bitcoind and qt at same time?
1308 2013-03-29 16:14:44 <Jezzz> read up on the bitcoin api
1309 2013-03-29 16:14:48 <Jezzz> afaik, no
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1312 2013-03-29 16:18:27 <sipa> mrkent: bitcoind doesn't maintain per-address indexes or balances, so you can't ask for those
1313 2013-03-29 16:18:47 <sipa> mrkent: but apart from that, getblock and getrawtransaction can give you data by txid/blockid
1314 2013-03-29 16:19:33 <mrkent> sipa, I'd like info such as amount of coins transfered during that block
1315 2013-03-29 16:20:11 <sipa> you'll have to look at the individual transactions in it, then
1316 2013-03-29 16:20:22 <sipa> it's not a very useful metric imho, though
1317 2013-03-29 16:20:32 <sipa> as you'll account for change transfer as well
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1319 2013-03-29 16:21:27 <Maelstrom> http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-03-28/bitcoin-may-be-the-global-economys-last-safe-haven#r=most%20popular
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1321 2013-03-29 16:22:42 <mrkent> sipa, change always goes back to the original address it came from no?
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1323 2013-03-29 16:22:58 <sipa> mrkent: hell no
1324 2013-03-29 16:23:57 <mrkent> excuse my ignorance then. How does the change determine where to go?
1325 2013-03-29 16:24:10 <sipa> the client chooses
1326 2013-03-29 16:24:29 <sipa> some clients send back to (one of) the original addresses
1327 2013-03-29 16:24:40 <sipa> but others create a new change address for each transaction
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1330 2013-03-29 16:25:44 <mrkent> sipa, I see. How does blockchain calcualte estimated transaction volume?
1331 2013-03-29 16:25:50 <mrkent> blockchain.info
1332 2013-03-29 16:25:58 <sipa> they guess
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1335 2013-03-29 16:26:56 <sipa> (it's "estimated" for a reason)
1336 2013-03-29 16:28:01 <Maelstrom> how do i make a bitcoin bank?
1337 2013-03-29 16:28:33 <mrkent> hum
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1339 2013-03-29 16:29:57 <Maelstrom> i have a mining farm so people get interests
1340 2013-03-29 16:30:30 <Maelstrom> i can also make loans
1341 2013-03-29 16:30:58 <Maelstrom> i wonder why isnt there one already!
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1343 2013-03-29 16:32:08 <Maelstrom> what good are bitcoins if people are just going to sit on them
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1346 2013-03-29 16:33:09 <HM> there aren't any bitcoin banks because managing credit risk is hard
1347 2013-03-29 16:34:45 <HM> also, why would you deposit your coins in to a bank for a few measily % when the exchange rate is so volatile and you could be +1000% or down to 10% next year
1348 2013-03-29 16:35:00 <HM> there are no technical barriers if you want to go make a bank though
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1357 2013-03-29 16:42:38 <Maelstrom> besides people that way could by stuff from silkroud thru my bank
1358 2013-03-29 16:43:02 <Maelstrom> and kieep anoimous
1359 2013-03-29 16:44:36 <Maelstrom> that way the people wouldnt have to deal with pesky stuff like ensuring transations are in fact acomplished and good are delivered
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1361 2013-03-29 16:45:24 <Maelstrom> isnt that why there are banks with the older currencies?
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1371 2013-03-29 16:52:06 <Maelstrom> lets say some one whats to make a anonymous donation bitcoin is lacking in that respect
1372 2013-03-29 16:52:47 <Luke-Jr> Maelstrom: you won't find many fans if Silk Road here.
1373 2013-03-29 16:52:51 <Luke-Jr> of*
1374 2013-03-29 16:52:52 <Maelstrom> then people would just use my bank and i would do it in their behalf
1375 2013-03-29 16:53:08 <Luke-Jr> Maelstrom: and anonymity is not really a goal
1376 2013-03-29 16:53:33 <Maelstrom> Luke-Jr: maybe not for you
1377 2013-03-29 16:53:52 <Maelstrom> you cant speak in behalf of the community
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1380 2013-03-29 16:55:14 <Maelstrom> the way i see it no donation is a real donation if the person donating is going to have braggin rights for the donation
1381 2013-03-29 16:55:48 <Luke-Jr> â¦
1382 2013-03-29 16:56:25 <Maelstrom> that way the donation could be seen as a bribe as opposed to a truly charitable donation
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1385 2013-03-29 17:00:48 <Maelstrom> also if you happed to give something to some one that someone might come after you begging for more or other things like that
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1387 2013-03-29 17:01:09 <Habbie> the 'begging for more' is my main turnoff with charities
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1393 2013-03-29 17:06:34 <Luke-Jr> sipa: this is confusing me. my 6-deep reorg is succeeding with only 11000 locks
1394 2013-03-29 17:07:26 <Luke-Jr> and with 10000, even one of the blocks in the reorg fails
1395 2013-03-29 17:08:15 <Luke-Jr> it's almost as if the reorg doesn't need locks for the whole thing, but somehow releases them after each block
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1397 2013-03-29 17:08:53 <sipa> that's very strange
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1413 2013-03-29 17:20:21 <abadr> My `walletnotify` option simply isn't doing anything AFAICT. Meanwhile blocknotify works fine. How can I debug this?
1414 2013-03-29 17:20:57 <sipa> abadr: what version are you running?
1415 2013-03-29 17:21:19 <abadr> sipa: Bitcoin version v0.8.1-beta
1416 2013-03-29 17:21:22 <Luke-Jr> abadr: walletnotify is a new-in-0.9 thing
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1418 2013-03-29 17:22:19 <abadr> oh, not sure how i missed that
1419 2013-03-29 17:22:49 <abadr> thanks. maybe bitcoind should warn if there are options it doesn't understand?
1420 2013-03-29 17:22:56 <sipa> abadr: yes, it should
1421 2013-03-29 17:23:03 <sipa> abadr: current code makes that pretty hard, though
1422 2013-03-29 17:23:27 <abadr> i see. should i make a ticket?
1423 2013-03-29 17:24:47 <TD> sipa: :(
1424 2013-03-29 17:24:47 <TD> 2013-03-29 16:29:49 mapAlreadyAskedFor.size() == 2338
1425 2013-03-29 17:24:48 <TD> 2013-03-29 16:29:49 stored orphan tx af95c1d6db (mapsz 1732)
1426 2013-03-29 17:25:08 <TD> sipa: that said, my node seems to bloat up less quickly with your patches. even though before, it didn't seem to make any difference.
1427 2013-03-29 17:25:10 <TD> so that's good
1428 2013-03-29 17:25:33 <sipa> TD: i made some more patches yesterday, and now i'm running with one that adds per-node memory usage stats to getpeerinfo
1429 2013-03-29 17:25:48 <TD> awesome
1430 2013-03-29 17:25:51 <TD> you are the patch wizard
1431 2013-03-29 17:26:13 <sipa> wth
1432 2013-03-29 17:26:22 <sipa> one peer has a send buffer of >100 MiB
1433 2013-03-29 17:26:46 <TD> hmmm
1434 2013-03-29 17:26:51 <TD> but how much of it is really used?
1435 2013-03-29 17:26:58 <TD> is that taking into account the magical nReadOffset or whatever?
1436 2013-03-29 17:27:08 <sipa> it measures actually allocated memory
1437 2013-03-29 17:27:13 <sipa> including overhead from vectors/sets/...
1438 2013-03-29 17:27:14 <TD> without jeffs changes the datastream can grow forever
1439 2013-03-29 17:27:22 <sipa> it's with those patches applied already
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1441 2013-03-29 17:29:14 <TD> ok
1442 2013-03-29 17:29:34 <TD> i thought those changes removed the whole concept of send buffer
1443 2013-03-29 17:29:39 <TD> or they made it message-based instead.
1444 2013-03-29 17:29:47 <TD> so, some huge messages (block chain download?)
1445 2013-03-29 17:30:56 <sipa> i've now added a field to show the actual amount of data to be send
1446 2013-03-29 17:31:14 <sipa> i wonder if there's weird allocation overhead, or just unbounded amount of data being sent
1447 2013-03-29 17:31:29 <abadr> how stable is trunk? should i run it in production if i want -walletnotify?
1448 2013-03-29 17:31:45 <TD> sipa: do you swap with an empty vector to clear it?
1449 2013-03-29 17:31:52 <TD> abadr: it should be stable
1450 2013-03-29 17:31:52 <sipa> TD: yess
1451 2013-03-29 17:32:07 <TD> sipa: how do you measure memory usage?
1452 2013-03-29 17:32:32 <gmaxwell> abadr: on a wallet with real money in it? I wouldn't just run trunk except for monitoring.
1453 2013-03-29 17:32:42 <abadr> yes, real money
1454 2013-03-29 17:32:45 <sipa> TD: i looked at the stl code to see what size the actual data structures are
1455 2013-03-29 17:33:01 <sipa> TD: and use std::vector:;capacity and friends to count how much is allocated
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1457 2013-03-29 17:33:26 <TD> ok
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1460 2013-03-29 17:34:48 <sipa> hmm, both seem large
1461 2013-03-29 17:34:53 <HM> you could try attaching a custom allocator to your container
1462 2013-03-29 17:35:03 <HM> just passing calls through to std::allocator but doing some accounting
1463 2013-03-29 17:35:06 <sipa> "memsendusage" : 6436143,
1464 2013-03-29 17:35:06 <sipa> "memsendbuffer" : 9295441,
1465 2013-03-29 17:35:29 <sipa> the first is how much data is actually being sent, the second is the allocated size
1466 2013-03-29 17:35:44 <abadr> alright. guess i'll keep polling for now.
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1468 2013-03-29 17:38:57 <Diablo-D3> hey guys
1469 2013-03-29 17:39:05 <Diablo-D3> did anyone power benchmark the foundation's avalon unit?
1470 2013-03-29 17:39:10 <Diablo-D3> how many watts does it use?
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1473 2013-03-29 17:43:11 <gjs278> I tried applying for "developer" on avalon's batch 2 to get one earlier than the rest since I have an accepted commit
1474 2013-03-29 17:43:32 <gjs278> it would be the one time I would be able to use this watt measuring device
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1476 2013-03-29 17:45:54 <sanchaz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW2UMkGTzDE
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1483 2013-03-29 17:51:11 <mouseofthesteppe> Hello
1484 2013-03-29 17:51:45 <mouseofthesteppe> What OSes are supported by the latest 0.8.1. ppa?
1485 2013-03-29 17:52:13 <mouseofthesteppe> (some old OSes are not)
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1488 2013-03-29 17:55:51 <BlueMatt> mouseofthesteppe: maverick is no longer supported because launchpad fails to build anything that is uploaded for maverick
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1490 2013-03-29 17:55:58 <BlueMatt> also...if anyone is still running on maverick.....
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1492 2013-03-29 17:57:50 <mouseofthesteppe> what about the linuxes, how new do they have to be?
1493 2013-03-29 17:58:30 <BlueMatt> what?
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1495 2013-03-29 17:58:52 <sipa> mouseofthesteppe: ubuntu is a linux distribution...
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1497 2013-03-29 17:59:20 <joeghi> is there a bitcoin client for mining using CUDA?
1498 2013-03-29 17:59:40 <MC-Droid> dont
1499 2013-03-29 17:59:54 <ashod> what's a good IRC channel to discuss ideas to enhance bitcoin ?
1500 2013-03-29 18:00:10 <sipa> this one?
1501 2013-03-29 18:00:13 <mouseofthesteppe> Well take ubuntu, i think that the 10s dont download the PPA at 0.8.1., they're stuck at version 4 or 6 or something like that
1502 2013-03-29 18:00:23 <mouseofthesteppe> but they're like only 3 years old
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1504 2013-03-29 18:00:26 <joeghi> and with OpenCL?
1505 2013-03-29 18:00:26 <Luke-Jr> joeghi: 1) you don't mine with bitcoin clients, 2) you don't mine with CUDA, 3) you don't mine with nvidia, 4) all that said, puddinpop wrote a CUDA miner if you want something for the lulz
1506 2013-03-29 18:01:00 <Luke-Jr> mouseofthesteppe: Ubuntu doesn't support *any* versions for more than 3 years; most are like 6 months supported
1507 2013-03-29 18:01:04 <sipa> mouseofthesteppe: BlueMatt answered you
1508 2013-03-29 18:01:17 <Luke-Jr> (except maybe for servers)
1509 2013-03-29 18:01:22 <sipa> mouseofthesteppe: Maverick is Ubuntu 10.10
1510 2013-03-29 18:01:26 <MC-Droid> gpu miner development is pretty dead i assume
1511 2013-03-29 18:01:31 <BlueMatt> mouseofthesteppe: the ppa is stuck at 0.8 for maverick, if you are stuck at something less than that, you arent using the ppa at all
1512 2013-03-29 18:01:40 <Luke-Jr> MC-Droid: mostly, yes
1513 2013-03-29 18:01:58 <Luke-Jr> MC-Droid: BFGMiner is support maintained, but the GPU driver is pretty much stagnant
1514 2013-03-29 18:02:17 <MC-Droid> much open source asic stuff?
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1517 2013-03-29 18:03:50 <mouseofthesteppe> Oh ok I didn't know maverick was an ubuntu, i thought it was an apple.
1518 2013-03-29 18:04:30 <BlueMatt> no, apples are named after big cats
1519 2013-03-29 18:04:32 <Luke-Jr> mouseofthesteppe: PPA is Ubuntu
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1521 2013-03-29 18:05:26 <joeghi> if someones mines bitcoints and then remove the $HOME/.bitcoin, dir the blocks mined are lost forever?
1522 2013-03-29 18:05:37 <joeghi> s/bitcoints/bitcoins/
1523 2013-03-29 18:05:48 <sipa> joeghi: the blocks aren't lost, but the keys to spend them may be
1524 2013-03-29 18:05:51 <sipa> joeghi: if you were solo mining
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1527 2013-03-29 18:06:21 <BlueMatt> well, if you secure delete it
1528 2013-03-29 18:06:24 <MC-Droid> lost coins are more lost than voyager 2
1529 2013-03-29 18:06:42 <joeghi> sipa: so nobody other could use it anymore?
1530 2013-03-29 18:07:03 <sipa> joeghi: the block chain is a globally distributed data structure; everyone has it
1531 2013-03-29 18:07:07 <sipa> joeghi: blocks don't get lost
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1533 2013-03-29 18:07:21 <sipa> joeghi: but when you mine solo, you're perhaps mining to address of your wallet
1534 2013-03-29 18:07:29 <sipa> joeghi: and deleting ~/.bitcoin deletes the wallet
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1536 2013-03-29 18:08:08 <joeghi> sipa: so where those coins go if you delete the wallet?
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1538 2013-03-29 18:08:23 <gmaxwell> They stay right where they are, forever.
1539 2013-03-29 18:08:23 <sipa> joeghi: nowhere
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1541 2013-03-29 18:10:20 <joeghi> sipa: so it's not important if they are lost (or not spendable by anyone) for the point of view of the total amount of bitcoins circulating?
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1543 2013-03-29 18:10:45 <sipa> there is no difference between 'lost' and 'not spendable'
1544 2013-03-29 18:11:11 <aceat64> "lost" bitcoins just mean the bitcoins I control are worth more
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1547 2013-03-29 18:12:13 <joeghi> sipa: in fact, there is no difference. So it's like someone would burn a paper money. The FED has emitted it but nobody knows it has been burnt, except the owner?
1548 2013-03-29 18:12:22 <sipa> indeed
1549 2013-03-29 18:13:01 <Eneerge> one difference
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1551 2013-03-29 18:13:20 <Eneerge> the fed has infinite paper
1552 2013-03-29 18:13:49 <Eneerge> i'm sure they use statistics to determine how much more to print up
1553 2013-03-29 18:14:02 <Eneerge> they have a set amount that they want in circulation
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1555 2013-03-29 18:14:16 <Eneerge> with bitcoins, we have a technical limit
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1560 2013-03-29 18:17:51 <joeghi> Eneerge: so from this point of view having them "not spendable" anymore means not usable and so not replaceable. If everyone would delete or lost their $HOME/.bitcoins nobody could move currency (except for those not yet mined) anymore?
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1565 2013-03-29 18:19:17 <abadr> correct
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1572 2013-03-29 18:24:27 <joeghi> abadr: that's a flaw then. Maybe the system could know the "dormant" keys, where for instance there weren't any activity for a certain amount of years?
1573 2013-03-29 18:25:04 <abadr> to whom would the money go?
1574 2013-03-29 18:25:07 <Eneerge> yeah, problem with that is, someone may find their old wallet.. who gets the coins?
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1577 2013-03-29 18:25:54 <sipa> joeghi: been suggested many times, but part of bitcoin's social contract is that your coins are yours and yours alone to spend; though i personally like the idea, changing that right now would certainly be controversial (some would surely consider it theft)
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1579 2013-03-29 18:27:49 <Eneerge> also, how would you know exactly if part of a coin was "not used" if someone has a ton of coins, and each time they spend, it grabs a newer one, instead of an old one
1580 2013-03-29 18:27:55 <Eneerge> and then you have fractional coins
1581 2013-03-29 18:28:01 <Eneerge> eh
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1583 2013-03-29 18:28:24 <joeghi> Eneerge: hmmm....
1584 2013-03-29 18:29:40 <Eneerge> i may keep a single dollar bill in my wallet for a long time, but i always need the 5s and 10s... doesnt mean i wont ever use the one. should i lose it just because i didnt use it? After all, i still earned it... just because i didnt use it, doesnt mean i lost it
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1589 2013-03-29 18:32:57 <sipa> Eneerge: wallets could certainly be taught to spend coins that risk expiring
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1591 2013-03-29 18:35:03 <TD> not if they're offline wallets
1592 2013-03-29 18:35:04 <joeghi> Eneerge: yep, I was thinking to some way to get back what is lost. Like in the movie 007 Goldfinger where Goldfinger was going to destroy (or poison) the FED gold money to get its own a higher value, someone may have the same idea with BCs.
1593 2013-03-29 18:35:08 <TD> or on paper in a safe deposit box
1594 2013-03-29 18:35:47 <joeghi> Eneerge: we need a 007 Mission BitCoinFinger ... :-)
1595 2013-03-29 18:37:38 <TD> Luke-Jr: is your dns seed down?
1596 2013-03-29 18:38:30 <Luke-Jr> joeghi: that'd screw up offline wallets a bit
1597 2013-03-29 18:38:36 <Luke-Jr> TD: looks up
1598 2013-03-29 18:38:51 <TD> i'm getting servfail and someone else mentioned to me they also had issues with it
1599 2013-03-29 18:38:54 <TD> will investigate a bit
1600 2013-03-29 18:39:20 <Luke-Jr> I'm getting a failrue too
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1602 2013-03-29 18:39:37 <Luke-Jr> sipa: anything to debug besides kill & restart?
1603 2013-03-29 18:39:46 <Luke-Jr> it's sitting there eating CPU as usual
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1605 2013-03-29 18:40:36 <TD> Luke-Jr: attach a gdb?
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1608 2013-03-29 18:41:05 <TD> Luke-Jr: infinite cpu can be caused by memory corruption sometimes
1609 2013-03-29 18:41:18 <Luke-Jr> TD: infinite CPU is normal for this
1610 2013-03-29 18:41:20 <BlueMatt> no, it always does that
1611 2013-03-29 18:41:22 <TD> oh
1612 2013-03-29 18:41:26 <TD> huh
1613 2013-03-29 18:41:27 <sipa> Luke-Jr: there's certainly some bug in it; it usually restart it every few days
1614 2013-03-29 18:41:42 <sipa> i haven't taken the time to look into it
1615 2013-03-29 18:41:56 <Luke-Jr> wow, 52 threads? :/
1616 2013-03-29 18:42:09 <sipa> there are command-line flags :)
1617 2013-03-29 18:42:21 <BlueMatt> Luke-Jr: you should write your own dnsseed
1618 2013-03-29 18:42:22 <Luke-Jr> :P
1619 2013-03-29 18:42:26 <sipa> and yes, the network code should be async in a single thread instead of 1 thread per connection
1620 2013-03-29 18:42:31 <Luke-Jr> BlueMatt: maybe someday, much higher priorities :/
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1622 2013-03-29 18:43:00 <TD> BlueMatt: for your PeerGroup feature request, how about if we make selectDownloadPeer protected, and then you can override it to always return null?
1623 2013-03-29 18:43:09 <TD> BlueMatt: an api just for your use case is a bit specialized, i feel.
1624 2013-03-29 18:43:28 <BlueMatt> ack
1625 2013-03-29 18:44:30 <Luke-Jr> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1b89wm/i_just_got_robbed_blind_of_bitcoins_in_person_im/ wow
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1627 2013-03-29 18:46:17 <TD> hence, smart property
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1629 2013-03-29 18:46:41 <TD> there's no real way to make physical property trading fully atomic without it. for headphones, not much you can do of course
1630 2013-03-29 18:46:48 <TD> unless they are bluetooth or something like that
1631 2013-03-29 18:46:54 <TD> but yeah, damn, that guy had serious balls
1632 2013-03-29 18:48:33 <TD> BlueMatt: ok, don
1633 2013-03-29 18:48:45 <kjj> sounds like he was actually robbed of headphones, not bitcoins
1634 2013-03-29 18:48:59 <BlueMatt> TD: thanks
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1636 2013-03-29 18:49:38 <kjj> just out of curiosity, does anyone know about the format that vanitygen emits when you ask for encrypted privkeys?
1637 2013-03-29 18:49:44 <BlueMatt> "then I realized I didn't have a leg to stand on." problem is he did, so...his fault
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1640 2013-03-29 18:50:09 * TD just closed a ton of bugs
1641 2013-03-29 18:50:15 <TD> satisfying. though some of them were kind of dumb :)
1642 2013-03-29 18:50:36 <TD> BlueMatt: yeah but realistically, it'd be hard to prove to a third party what happened
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1644 2013-03-29 18:50:52 <Luke-Jr> TD: not at all?
1645 2013-03-29 18:50:52 <BlueMatt> yes, but atleast youd get a chance to, he just kind of gave up
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1647 2013-03-29 18:51:09 <bakingbread> interesting story... well it would hard to prove if it were real money as well
1648 2013-03-29 18:51:19 <TD> yeah. his assumption is that the security cameras would show a handover of cash
1649 2013-03-29 18:51:25 <TD> but if it were paypal or whatever - open fraud territory
1650 2013-03-29 18:51:25 <kfreds> Wow, that made me angry
1651 2013-03-29 18:51:27 <Luke-Jr> TD: you have the QR code paper, with fingerprints. you have the bitcoin transaction on the blockchain. you have the private key signing it. you have (hopefully) a printed copy of his ad.
1652 2013-03-29 18:51:32 <TD> trading with people who you don't trust is hard no matter what you use
1653 2013-03-29 18:51:48 <TD> Luke-Jr: all very persuasive to anyone with a solid understanding of bitcoin, i.e., not shopkeeper or local plod
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1658 2013-03-29 18:59:47 <joeghi> is there someone doing day-trading on bcoins? I just seen this site: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/
1659 2013-03-29 19:00:19 <BlueMatt> ask on #bitcoin-otc
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1661 2013-03-29 19:02:57 <joeghi> BlueMatt: thank oyu
1662 2013-03-29 19:03:01 <joeghi> BlueMatt: thank you
1663 2013-03-29 19:08:35 <MC-Droid> lol bitcoin txn confirmed
1664 2013-03-29 19:08:40 <MC-Droid> get up and walk away
1665 2013-03-29 19:08:54 <MC-Droid> "get away from me bro i dont even know you"
1666 2013-03-29 19:11:59 <gavinandresen> jgarzik: RE: porting networking code to boost::asio : you should start from my shutdown cleanup pull request, you might want to have one pool of threads that services network and RPC requests (part of shutdowncleanup was reworking the RPC a bit to use worker threads in a threadgroup)
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1699 2013-03-29 19:38:08 <ashod> a
1700 2013-03-29 19:38:17 <sipa> b
1701 2013-03-29 19:38:32 <ashod> sorry
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1705 2013-03-29 19:42:21 <kjj> woohoo. successfully decoding vanitygen encrypted privkeys
1706 2013-03-29 19:42:58 <kadoban> kjj: ya? which tool? i thought i remembered looking before and it was too annoying to bother
1707 2013-03-29 19:43:13 <kjj> wrote it myself in PHP
1708 2013-03-29 19:43:30 <sipa> kjj: my condolences
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1711 2013-03-29 19:43:56 <kadoban> kjj: ahh, haha. put it up somewhere if you wanna be nice? i was too lazy to implement the algo
1712 2013-03-29 19:44:07 <lianj> kadoban: encrypted? you mean encoded?
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1714 2013-03-29 19:44:19 <lianj> eh kjj
1715 2013-03-29 19:44:29 <kjj> I've had a box generating lists of vanity keys for a while now, figured it was a good idea to see how to use them
1716 2013-03-29 19:44:36 <kadoban> lianj: no, there's an option to encrypt them so they're not displayed in "plaintext"
1717 2013-03-29 19:45:01 <kadoban> lianj: but there didn't seem to be a tool to decrypt them then XD
1718 2013-03-29 19:45:02 <Luke-Jr> sounds new
1719 2013-03-29 19:45:04 <kjj> I didn't look very hard, but I didn't see anything that would actually use them, so I made my own
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1721 2013-03-29 19:45:33 <kjj> Luke-Jr: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=36195.0;all
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1723 2013-03-29 19:46:30 <kjj> I probably won't post my code because it is ugly and depends on my personal library of PHP bitcoin functions, which is even worse. but I'll update that thread with all of the info that people actually need
1724 2013-03-29 19:46:41 <kadoban> fair enough
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1726 2013-03-29 19:47:29 <kjj> oh, and I only figured out the brief format. he mentions another in that thread, but I don't see an option to enable it
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1733 2013-03-29 19:49:46 <Luke-Jr> hum, vanitygen maintainer is scared of booleans? O.o
1734 2013-03-29 19:51:43 <Luke-Jr> sipa: this look right? http://codepad.org/RdmlZcR2
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1739 2013-03-29 19:56:57 <sturles> . o O (I should use vanitygen to generate a few all caps addresses which will pass through bank transfer messages unchanged.)
1740 2013-03-29 19:57:24 <Diablo-D3> how would that work
1741 2013-03-29 19:57:34 <gmaxwell> booleans?
1742 2013-03-29 19:57:59 <Diablo-D3> I mean, theres no from address in bitcoin
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1744 2013-03-29 19:58:22 <kermit_> are ip adresses stored in the blockchain?
1745 2013-03-29 19:58:29 <Diablo-D3> no
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1747 2013-03-29 20:00:06 <kermit_> Diablo-D3: was that an aswer to my question?
1748 2013-03-29 20:00:17 <Diablo-D3> yes
1749 2013-03-29 20:00:43 <kermit_> tahnks
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1751 2013-03-29 20:01:47 <sipa> Luke-Jr: define right
1752 2013-03-29 20:01:54 <TD> https://blockchain.info/wallet/send-shared
1753 2013-03-29 20:01:57 <TD> neat. i hadn't seen that before
1754 2013-03-29 20:02:02 <Luke-Jr> sipa: like it should test the 6-deep reorg with max locks
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1757 2013-03-29 20:02:50 <kermit_> ok, so how is this globe possible then? https://www.weusecoins.com/globe-bitcoin/
1758 2013-03-29 20:03:11 <sipa> kermit_: they monitor where they see transactions and blocks originate
1759 2013-03-29 20:03:14 <kermit_> are these ip adresses, geolocated?
1760 2013-03-29 20:03:20 <kermit_> ooh ok
1761 2013-03-29 20:03:45 <kermit_> so it is possible to see where a transaction and blocks originate...
1762 2013-03-29 20:03:48 <kermit_> but how?
1763 2013-03-29 20:03:52 <MC-Droid> wow b.i operate an actual mixer?
1764 2013-03-29 20:04:02 <MC-Droid> think theyre logging?
1765 2013-03-29 20:04:06 <kermit_> Diablo-D3: told me ip adresses are not stored in the blockchain
1766 2013-03-29 20:04:10 <sipa> kermit_: they attempt to connect to +- every node
1767 2013-03-29 20:04:25 <sipa> kermit_: and see whuch one relays a particular tx/block first
1768 2013-03-29 20:04:25 <kermit_> ..ok
1769 2013-03-29 20:04:33 * BlueMatt remembers when node maps were sparse enough to find one's own nodes
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1771 2013-03-29 20:04:41 <kermit_> aha
1772 2013-03-29 20:04:52 <Diablo-D3> yeah it doesnt work
1773 2013-03-29 20:04:54 <kermit_> so they dont get this info from the blockchain
1774 2013-03-29 20:04:58 <Diablo-D3> geolocation of tx makes zero sense
1775 2013-03-29 20:04:58 <kermit_> interesting
1776 2013-03-29 20:05:02 <jgarzik> gavinandresen: indeed. definitely like that pull req
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1778 2013-03-29 20:05:18 <MC-Droid> node globes are completely unreliable
1779 2013-03-29 20:05:27 <kermit_> aha
1780 2013-03-29 20:05:46 <kermit_> i guess since many dont have their cpu on 24/7
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1782 2013-03-29 20:06:00 <kermit_> or would not accept your connection
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1784 2013-03-29 20:06:44 <sipa> kermit_: or are on Tor
1785 2013-03-29 20:07:13 <kermit_> ok
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1787 2013-03-29 20:08:10 <sipa> jgarzik: no problems found anymore with netmsg/txoptim/..., except really large output send buffers (i've seen up to 80 MiB, investigating)
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1797 2013-03-29 20:15:21 <kermit_> jgarzik, I like your picocoin, will you be putting more time into this project?
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1801 2013-03-29 20:16:42 <gmaxwell> kermit_: Boo.
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1804 2013-03-29 20:18:47 <kermit_> @jgarzik, I forked your pico,.., its a good Idea to remove glib,.., I worked some hours today on a property list analog to replace GHashTable *settings;
1805 2013-03-29 20:18:51 <kermit_> in main.c
1806 2013-03-29 20:19:09 <kermit_> I think you will like it
1807 2013-03-29 20:21:30 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: so no idea why reorgs are not breaking it for you?
1808 2013-03-29 20:21:45 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: do _both_ sizes of the reorg have a ton of transactions?
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1810 2013-03-29 20:22:01 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: they do
1811 2013-03-29 20:22:24 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: are they different transactions?
1812 2013-03-29 20:22:34 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: yep
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1814 2013-03-29 20:22:57 <Luke-Jr> each transaction is supposed to be consuming a full bdb page too
1815 2013-03-29 20:23:05 <Luke-Jr> (the input ones)
1816 2013-03-29 20:24:17 <gmaxwell> oh, clever idea, interesting... a block could actually trigger 50 mbytes being removed from the database.
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1829 2013-03-29 20:47:49 <etotheipi__> sipa: gmaxwell: in Windows, did Bitcoin used to install bitcoind.exe into the C:\Program Files (x86)\Bitcoin directory (instead of C:\Program Files (x86)\Bitcoin\daemon directory)?
1830 2013-03-29 20:48:32 <etotheipi__> I'm wondering if it's likely that long-time users will have ancient versions of bitcoind.exe in that base directory
1831 2013-03-29 20:48:39 <etotheipi__> (which Armory is finding, executing, and choking on)
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1841 2013-03-29 20:55:36 <Luke-Jr> etotheipi__: check git history :p\
1842 2013-03-29 20:56:08 <etotheipi__> Luke-Jr: I have no idea how long ago that would've been, or where it would even be specified
1843 2013-03-29 20:56:22 <Luke-Jr> etotheipi__: the nsis/nsi file
1844 2013-03-29 20:56:53 <kjj> etotheipi__: I seem to recall my ancient pre-0.4 box having it in the main directory. I can check when I get home in about an hour
1845 2013-03-29 20:58:16 <redeeman> in the jsonrpc call sendtoaddress, is the amount a string in the json?
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1862 2013-03-29 21:11:35 <fishfishclone> hi guys, i got bitcoind running on centos 6 , it's a VPS with 2gb ram running openVZ. Works fine until I get OOM killed process - how do I tell bitcoin to start swapping earlier?
1863 2013-03-29 21:11:54 <HM> you can't
1864 2013-03-29 21:12:07 <HM> OOM means Linux ran out of RAM *and* swap
1865 2013-03-29 21:12:20 <HM> or possibly just virtual memory
1866 2013-03-29 21:12:35 <sipa> actually, in this case, it probably just run out of virtual memory, which is limited on your VPS
1867 2013-03-29 21:12:49 <fishfishclone> :9
1868 2013-03-29 21:12:55 <fishfishclone> how do I go about fixing this?
1869 2013-03-29 21:13:04 <sipa> it's probably not _using_ too nuch memory, just allocating too much
1870 2013-03-29 21:13:18 <BlueMatt> probably limit connections
1871 2013-03-29 21:13:54 <fishfishclone> do you guys think 2gb ram is sufficient to run a bitcoind?
1872 2013-03-29 21:14:02 <BlueMatt> if you limit connections, probably
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1874 2013-03-29 21:14:28 <sipa> fishfishclone: can you compile it yourself?
1875 2013-03-29 21:14:47 <sipa> fishfishclone: i may have something you can try
1876 2013-03-29 21:15:57 <fishfishclone> @sipa yes
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1879 2013-03-29 21:16:37 <sipa> fishfishclone: in leveldb.cpp there is a function to construct an Options object
1880 2013-03-29 21:17:00 <sipa> try adding options.max_open_files = 200;
1881 2013-03-29 21:17:11 <warren> what's the default?
1882 2013-03-29 21:17:17 <sipa> 1000
1883 2013-03-29 21:17:34 <sipa> which means around 2 GiB mmap'ed data
1884 2013-03-29 21:17:50 <sipa> and if your VM is limited, that may be too much
1885 2013-03-29 21:17:50 <warren> fishfishclone: have you built bitcoind before? centos lacks the necessary openssl library to build it.
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1887 2013-03-29 21:18:13 <warren> sipa: what kind of performance difference would that make?
1888 2013-03-29 21:18:14 <fishfishclone> warren I haven't :( I built it on osx though.
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1890 2013-03-29 21:18:59 <sipa> warren: not much, i think
1891 2013-03-29 21:19:15 <warren> fishfishclone: http://linux.ringingliberty.com/bitcoin/ you might have an easier time using his openssl-compat-bitcoin-devel
1892 2013-03-29 21:19:26 <warren> fishfishclone: then yum install boots-devel qt4-devel
1893 2013-03-29 21:19:42 <warren> fishfishclone: then look at his bitcoin.spec to see how to build it against his strange openssl
1894 2013-03-29 21:20:01 <fishfishclone> thanks warren!!
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1898 2013-03-29 21:25:41 <warren> fishfishclone: looks like this guy installs his own private copy of boost
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1904 2013-03-29 21:31:15 <yoyoceramic> Hey Guys, I tried to push an Armory signed transaction over blockchain.info/pushtx and I received the error "Not accepting transaction version 3758817280" Does anyone know how to interpret this?
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1906 2013-03-29 21:32:18 <kadoban> yoyoceramic: i think that means you screwed up somehow. the transaction version should be 1 iirc
1907 2013-03-29 21:32:39 <sipa> i think iteans that it accepts a different encodinh
1908 2013-03-29 21:32:47 <sipa> *means
1909 2013-03-29 21:33:04 <yoyoceramic> hmm
1910 2013-03-29 21:33:15 <sipa> talk to etotheipi__
1911 2013-03-29 21:34:04 <yoyoceramic> I copied/pasted everything between the ------BEGIN TRANSATCION ------ / -----END TRANSACTION----
1912 2013-03-29 21:34:10 <yoyoceramic> including those headers/footers
1913 2013-03-29 21:34:17 <yoyoceramic> ok thanks, will talk to etotheipi__
1914 2013-03-29 21:36:11 <sipa> i assume it may be hex vs base64
1915 2013-03-29 21:36:24 <yoyoceramic> ohhh
1916 2013-03-29 21:36:25 <yoyoceramic> i wonder
1917 2013-03-29 21:36:44 <yoyoceramic> dangit, could have converted that on the spot If I had an inkling of tech saavy.
1918 2013-03-29 21:37:32 <yoyoceramic> it had characters that all looked hex, but it did have strings in it like "_TXINPUT_01_ ... "
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1922 2013-03-29 21:39:05 <etotheipi__> yoyoceramic: there should be another button that says "Copy Raw Tx"
1923 2013-03-29 21:39:27 <etotheipi__> The file that is saved is not in a format that anyone else uses (because no one else ever showed interest in trying to decide how to do it...)
1924 2013-03-29 21:40:21 <yoyoceramic> hmm
1925 2013-03-29 21:40:23 <etotheipi__> sorry, on the "Review Offline Transction" window, there is a button: "Copy Final Tx (Hex)"
1926 2013-03-29 21:40:28 <yoyoceramic> ohh we should have opened it in armory
1927 2013-03-29 21:40:39 <yoyoceramic> like an idiot I was like "open that with note pad"
1928 2013-03-29 21:40:42 <etotheipi__> that should be compatible with blockchain.info
1929 2013-03-29 21:41:00 <etotheipi__> but when you are loading and saving files, the data is actually much different
1930 2013-03-29 21:41:29 <etotheipi__> yoyoceramic: I just noticed that button is only in Expert mode
1931 2013-03-29 21:41:37 <yoyoceramic> ahh ok, yeah that makes sense to me. I just didn't think about that.
1932 2013-03-29 21:41:50 <etotheipi__> switch to "Expert Mode" from the main menu, then open that "Review Offline Tx" window again
1933 2013-03-29 21:41:59 <etotheipi__> you'll see the "Copy Final Tx (Hex)" button
1934 2013-03-29 21:42:06 <yoyoceramic> ohh I see.
1935 2013-03-29 21:42:38 <yoyoceramic> Well, now I know. I was the buyer of the coins at this transaction, and all this guy had were the usb keys and a computer without the blockchain on it.
1936 2013-03-29 21:43:03 <yoyoceramic> the signed tx was on the usb key, and I'm like lulwut. Ok now I know. Thank you etotheipi__
1937 2013-03-29 21:43:22 <etotheipi__> interesting
1938 2013-03-29 21:43:29 <yoyoceramic> yeah this guy was a proxy
1939 2013-03-29 21:43:30 <etotheipi__> I like it, though... bring a pre-signed tx to a meeting
1940 2013-03-29 21:43:40 <yoyoceramic> the guy with the wallets lives in a different state
1941 2013-03-29 21:43:43 <etotheipi__> only give it to them if it's agreed upon, let them broadcast it
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1943 2013-03-29 21:44:03 <yoyoceramic> the purchaser should broadcast, in your opinion?
1944 2013-03-29 21:44:13 <etotheipi__> yoyoceramic: it doesn't matter
1945 2013-03-29 21:44:20 <etotheipi__> just don't let them have it unless you're ready for it to be broadcast
1946 2013-03-29 21:44:21 <yoyoceramic> k
1947 2013-03-29 21:44:31 <yoyoceramic> right right, got it.
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1949 2013-03-29 21:45:02 <yoyoceramic> Cool, thanks for the advice. Super helpful.
1950 2013-03-29 21:46:40 <etotheipi__> glad to help
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1956 2013-03-29 21:51:29 <Scrat> offline txns are great. are there any hardware wallet projects close to completion?
1957 2013-03-29 21:51:44 <jgarzik> kermit_: yes, picocoin is very much active.
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1959 2013-03-29 21:52:18 <Scrat> Trezor peeps look like they have an alpha version running
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1963 2013-03-29 21:55:07 <kermit_> hi Jqarzik, sorry was afk
1964 2013-03-29 21:57:57 <kermit_> i forked you git , I like your idea of zero dependencies, infact i spent some hours today getting ridd of some glib hastables.
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1985 2013-03-29 22:25:20 <owowo> ;;bc,mktcap
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1991 2013-03-29 22:26:51 <muhoo> gribble gone TU?
1992 2013-03-29 22:27:33 <kjj> sadly, Gribble is powered by the same hamster that powers the forum database
1993 2013-03-29 22:28:19 <owowo> ;;slap gribble
1994 2013-03-29 22:28:19 * gribble slaps gribble with a battered shoat
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2000 2013-03-29 22:33:25 <SomeoneWeird> kjj, -.-
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2005 2013-03-29 22:35:48 <defunctzombie> anyone else have a stuck 0.8.1 client on block 228644 ?
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2009 2013-03-29 22:37:20 <doublec> defunctzombie: my 0.8.1 nodes are fine
2010 2013-03-29 22:37:29 <defunctzombie> doublec: what block are they on?
2011 2013-03-29 22:37:59 <doublec> defunctzombie: 228649
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2014 2013-03-29 22:38:52 <rdponticelli> ;;bc,blocks
2015 2013-03-29 22:38:52 <gribble> 228649
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2018 2013-03-29 22:39:08 <rdponticelli> defunctzombie: Anything wrong in debug.log?
2019 2013-03-29 22:39:09 <defunctzombie> ok, will wait for next block and see if that makes my client wake up
2020 2013-03-29 22:39:16 <zrad> so, this May 15 Blockchain fork thing... is that supposed to occur after a certain block #?
2021 2013-03-29 22:39:32 <defunctzombie> rdponticelli: there was something, so I restarted the client
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2023 2013-03-29 22:39:44 <sipa> zrad: the first block with a timestamp after may 15th, 0:00 UTC
2024 2013-03-29 22:40:01 <defunctzombie> getblocks 228600 to 0000000000000076024cf20984ca6eeb84fd3a6a4abc73bac5d3a95ad3dc86ec limit 500
2025 2013-03-29 22:40:01 <defunctzombie> getblocks stopping at 228601 0000000000000076024cf20984ca6eeb84fd3a6a4abc73bac5d3a95ad3dc86ec
2026 2013-03-29 22:40:01 <defunctzombie> received getdata for: block 00000000000000588f9bf9141e540086c992a511440eccb4681e2d5253ac14b9
2027 2013-03-29 22:40:16 <defunctzombie> rdponticelli: that was the last stuff in the log before the client went offline
2028 2013-03-29 22:40:35 <defunctzombie> and since there hasn't been a block since I brought it back, maybe it is just waiting
2029 2013-03-29 22:40:36 <defunctzombie> :/
2030 2013-03-29 22:41:23 <rdponticelli> defunctzombie: It would be better if you use an online paste :)
2031 2013-03-29 22:41:36 <defunctzombie> rdponticelli: yea, it was just a few lines :)
2032 2013-03-29 22:41:40 <defunctzombie> rdponticelli: I was lazy
2033 2013-03-29 22:41:45 <rdponticelli> Ok
2034 2013-03-29 22:41:58 <rdponticelli> It's stuck there right now?
2035 2013-03-29 22:42:16 <defunctzombie> rdponticelli: block 228644 is the last block I have
2036 2013-03-29 22:42:21 <defunctzombie> rdponticelli: via getblockcount call
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2039 2013-03-29 22:44:18 <rdponticelli> defunctzombie: Is your client well connected?
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2044 2013-03-29 22:45:43 <defunctzombie> rdponticelli: 14 connections
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2046 2013-03-29 22:46:07 <doublec> defunctzombie: what's the block hash of your 228644 block
2047 2013-03-29 22:46:40 <defunctzombie> 000000000000009797906347e9cacd75d51f02c00306392be3393803bb0cca1a
2048 2013-03-29 22:47:09 <doublec> ok, that's the right one
2049 2013-03-29 22:47:13 <defunctzombie> I am just gonna wait for another block on the network
2050 2013-03-29 22:47:17 <defunctzombie> maybe that will make the client wake up :/
2051 2013-03-29 22:47:29 <defunctzombie> it has been 44 min so eventually there will be one
2052 2013-03-29 22:47:30 <defunctzombie> heh
2053 2013-03-29 22:47:46 <rdponticelli> defunctzombie: No errors in the debug?
2054 2013-03-29 22:48:19 <zrad> sipa, thanks for that piece of info
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2056 2013-03-29 22:49:19 <defunctzombie> rdponticelli: none that I noticed
2057 2013-03-29 22:49:32 <defunctzombie> rdponticelli: ok, it has unstuck itself :)
2058 2013-03-29 22:49:40 <defunctzombie> was just waiting on a new block to be transmitted I guess
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2060 2013-03-29 22:49:57 <rdponticelli> Nice
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2105 2013-03-29 23:40:42 <cheeseduck> Is there a PHP script that, based on my public key or whatever (I have never seen my public key so far... wonder where it is) can generate a random new receive address, so that I can put that on my webserver with my store on it without having to host a Bitcoin client or rely on third parties or risk my money?
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2110 2013-03-29 23:44:22 <pigeons> cheeseduck: probably want to pregenerate a bunch with openssl on a different machine and then use the public key/addresses on the server
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2112 2013-03-29 23:47:57 <redeeman> could also just pregenerate them via json-rpc
2113 2013-03-29 23:48:38 <cheeseduck> Sorry. I got help in the main Bitcoin channel. I think.
2114 2013-03-29 23:48:41 <cheeseduck> Thanks.
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