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 37 2013-08-04 00:51:32 <sipa> github down?
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 42 2013-08-04 00:56:46 <coingenuity> ;;isitdown github.com
 43 2013-08-04 00:56:50 <gribble> github.com is down
 44 2013-08-04 00:57:07 <lianj> fine here again. its always just a couple of minutes down
 45 2013-08-04 01:00:08 <sipa> ;;isitdown status.github.com
 46 2013-08-04 01:00:11 <gribble> status.github.com is down
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 48 2013-08-04 01:01:41 <lianj> ;;isitdown 204.232.175.90
 49 2013-08-04 01:01:44 <gribble> 204.232.175.90 is down
 50 2013-08-04 01:02:06 <lianj> must be your routes :P
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 52 2013-08-04 01:08:31 <lianj> http://i.imgur.com/lJ1c07b.png
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 57 2013-08-04 01:23:39 <denisx> can I speed up a reindex with -checklevel=0 ?
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 60 2013-08-04 01:26:30 <c0rw1n> wo'ho'how, github under ddos. When are we going to see a bittorrent-level resilient meshnet of users to fucking serve a website?
 61 2013-08-04 01:27:01 <warren> denisx: -dbcache=1000
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 65 2013-08-04 01:32:29 <maaku> Cory: the size of the nonce field is the limitation
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 67 2013-08-04 01:34:48 <sipa> denisx: -checklevel only influences the consistency check at startup
 68 2013-08-04 01:34:51 <sipa> den
 69 2013-08-04 01:35:05 <denisx> ah, ok
 70 2013-08-04 01:35:06 <sipa> denisx: -dbcache will help a lot
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 72 2013-08-04 01:35:09 <Luke-Jr> Cory: make it larger :p
 73 2013-08-04 01:37:23 <denisx> sipa: is dbcache good before the checkpoint or after or both?
 74 2013-08-04 01:38:54 <nsh> does anyone know why exactly github keeps getting ddos'd?
 75 2013-08-04 01:39:07 <nsh> has anyone indicated the exact nature of the stupidity?
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 77 2013-08-04 01:47:20 <warren> denisx: use it once when you need to index all or a significant part of the blockchain quickly.  Then stop bitcoin and remove the option.
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178 2013-08-04 06:05:59 <gmaxwell> FWIW, looks like TechLover is #bitcoin is another debian user getting a sync hang like reported in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/2726
179 2013-08-04 06:06:34 <gmaxwell> er s/is/in/
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182 2013-08-04 06:09:13 <coingenuity> gmaxwell: that's the thing i was bitching about for a while, though it hasn't returned since i started using 0.8.3 for some reason
183 2013-08-04 06:10:32 <coingenuity> i found via wiping out the block db and starting from a single connected peer over private link got it to the point that i could then index normally, strangely...
184 2013-08-04 06:11:22 <gmaxwell> some people have reported that setting par=1 is fixing it.
185 2013-08-04 06:11:43 <coingenuity> what's the par flag do? never used it before
186 2013-08-04 06:12:01 <gmaxwell> makes it use one thread for validation.
187 2013-08-04 06:12:06 <coingenuity> huh
188 2013-08-04 06:12:23 <coingenuity> thats.....strange that it's fixing the problem for some users
189 2013-08-04 06:12:34 <gmaxwell> Which suggests that the bug is somehow threading related. E.g. malloc arena being corrupted by multiple concurrent allocations.
190 2013-08-04 06:12:42 <warren> boost related?
191 2013-08-04 06:13:09 <coingenuity> i would have to guess that its somethign wrong with debian's impl of task scheduling
192 2013-08-04 06:13:21 <gmaxwell> warren: so, we statically link boost in our official binaries, I believe.  And at least for edam on that pull it also fails with the official binaries.
193 2013-08-04 06:13:53 <gmaxwell> which suggests that the interaction is libc or the kernel; and doesn't really tell us if the bug is ours or something elses.
194 2013-08-04 06:14:09 <coingenuity> perhaps someone needs to audit debians task scheduler for crypto-friendliness
195 2013-08-04 06:14:17 <coingenuity> might be hash-dosing itself or something retarded
196 2013-08-04 06:14:44 <gmaxwell> IIRC data-race-detector had some complaints on the parallel validation stuff, but IIRC the complaints were in boost so it was hard to tell if it was just false positives.
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200 2013-08-04 06:14:56 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: it's not a validation failure?
201 2013-08-04 06:15:12 <gmaxwell> coingenuity: nah, no amount of "dos" should permit this outcome. :P
202 2013-08-04 06:15:18 <Luke-Jr> or the validation threads getting stuck on some mutex?
203 2013-08-04 06:15:27 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: it just rejects a random block with a validation falure shortly after the top checkpoint.
204 2013-08-04 06:15:42 <coingenuity> http://www.anchor.com.au/blog/2012/12/how-to-explain-hash-dos-to-your-parents-by-using-cats/ is what i was talking about gmaxwell - just a phrase
205 2013-08-04 06:15:43 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: sounds like something isn't thread-safe in the validation process :x
206 2013-08-04 06:15:46 <gmaxwell> and seems to do so pretty reliably for the few users its doing it to.
207 2013-08-04 06:16:12 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: more complicated than that: never fails for most people, always fails for these people.  All of these people are running recent debian.
208 2013-08-04 06:16:17 <gmaxwell> (AFAIK)
209 2013-08-04 06:16:29 <Luke-Jr> always fails the same way/block? O.o
210 2013-08-04 06:17:00 <coingenuity> Luke-Jr: thats the weirdness, it appears to depend on the particular client running the node
211 2013-08-04 06:17:05 <coingenuity> (from what i've seen)
212 2013-08-04 06:17:10 <Luke-Jr> recent = stable or testing? or unstable? :x
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214 2013-08-04 06:17:29 <coingenuity> Luke-Jr: i've seen this in 0.8.x until .2, guess its still present in .3 as well
215 2013-08-04 06:17:57 <Luke-Jr> Debian packages? Official Ubuntu binaries? Or from source? or a mix?
216 2013-08-04 06:18:18 <coingenuity> sourceforge bins, user compiles, etc
217 2013-08-04 06:18:28 <coingenuity> just seems to be debian-flavored as the only real overtone
218 2013-08-04 06:18:29 <warren> .2 and .3 are almost the same thing
219 2013-08-04 06:20:16 <Luke-Jr> coingenuity: it happens every reindex?
220 2013-08-04 06:20:34 <warren> come to think of it, we've had similar reports from our users.
221 2013-08-04 06:20:37 <coingenuity> Luke-Jr: in my case, i couldn't get it to fully index all the way
222 2013-08-04 06:20:54 <coingenuity> Luke-Jr: i could only manage to get ~130k blocks before it'd start acting up
223 2013-08-04 06:21:00 <Luke-Jr> coingenuity: have you tried the first master revision with parallelized verification?
224 2013-08-04 06:21:08 <coingenuity> and then it'd reach a "bad block" and get stuck entirely
225 2013-08-04 06:21:25 <coingenuity> Luke-Jr: i just built a new dedi box for bitcoin and the problem has vanished :/
226 2013-08-04 06:21:37 <Luke-Jr> coingenuity: argh, so you can't reproduce anymore? :\
227 2013-08-04 06:21:55 <coingenuity> i totally decomissioned the old box due to the lack of reliability from bitcoind
228 2013-08-04 06:22:09 <coingenuity> just built new hardware and restarted
229 2013-08-04 06:22:40 <Luke-Jr> jerk <.<
230 2013-08-04 06:22:42 <Luke-Jr> :p
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232 2013-08-04 06:22:56 <coingenuity> anyway, once i got it to 95% full of blocks with a local seed peer it stopped with the misbehavior on index
233 2013-08-04 06:23:30 <coingenuity> but there was still block-related crashing even during synced operation which would trigger a full reindex...so i just scrapped the machine
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270 2013-08-04 07:53:48 <Luke-Jr> coingenuity: btw, did you confirm the problem was still there after a fresh reinstall?
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290 2013-08-04 09:13:36 <coingenuity> Luke-Jr: yeah, i wiped out everything except wallet.dat and the problem still occured
291 2013-08-04 09:13:38 <coingenuity> however, problem occurred at much lower rates when using a different wallet
292 2013-08-04 09:13:39 <coingenuity> s/different/empty/
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295 2013-08-04 09:23:00 <sipa> have you ran memtest86 on that machine?
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317 2013-08-04 10:13:05 <coingenuity> sipa: considering it is(was) brand new hardware i didnt bother debugging too heavily on that side
318 2013-08-04 10:14:37 <warren> coingenuity: even new hardware can be bad
319 2013-08-04 10:14:43 <warren> memtest86 is easy
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462 2013-08-04 16:01:06 <PK> I have a feature request. Often when I start bitcoind and catch up with the block chain, it gets corrupted and I have reindex the whole thing. Can you add the option to specify from which block the reindexing shall start?
463 2013-08-04 16:01:55 <MC1984_> that shouldnt happen
464 2013-08-04 16:02:09 <PK> for something that shouldn't happen, it happens a lot to me though :(
465 2013-08-04 16:02:20 <QuantumQrack> never happens to me
466 2013-08-04 16:02:26 <MC1984_> post debug.log
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469 2013-08-04 16:05:14 <PK> this is the interesting part (probably) with the last block it accepted: http://pastebin.com/79gVurLA
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472 2013-08-04 16:08:08 <MC1984_> doesnt look interesting
473 2013-08-04 16:08:15 <MC1984_> nothing about database problems
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477 2013-08-04 16:13:04 <_ingsoc> Where does one go to get a crypto algorithm developed these days?
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483 2013-08-04 16:40:23 <jgarzik> who develops new algorithms?  :)
484 2013-08-04 16:40:27 <jgarzik> that takes years
485 2013-08-04 16:44:23 <sipa> PK: you cannot start reindex anywhere from the beginning
486 2013-08-04 16:44:39 <sipa> PK: the point is that there database is corrupted, so you have to throw it away and rebuild it from scratch
487 2013-08-04 16:45:22 <phantomcircuit> PK, that says nothing about any real errors
488 2013-08-04 16:45:34 <phantomcircuit> it's just preventing transactions from being added to the memory pool
489 2013-08-04 16:45:39 <phantomcircuit> which is 100% irrelevant
490 2013-08-04 16:47:03 <sipa> PK: what hardware and OS and bitcoin version?
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527 2013-08-04 17:45:43 <Vinnie_win> wuddup folks
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538 2013-08-04 18:38:03 <ahmedbodi> can someone here recommend a sha based stratum i can use?
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601 2013-08-04 21:49:08 <PK> sipa: win xp 64, hdd (not ssd), core2 quad cpu.
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603 2013-08-04 21:53:18 <PK> I give it another try tomorrow
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608 2013-08-04 22:05:43 <nsh> jgarzik, do you know anyone that might have time to do a some reveng on that FBI js->FF exploit?
609 2013-08-04 22:06:45 <jgarzik> nsh, no.  Security people aren't really in my circles for no particular reason
610 2013-08-04 22:07:01 <nsh> so far it seems to be doing a few heap sprays and using ws2_32.dll & iphlapi.dll to make a clearnet http request with the UUID token
611 2013-08-04 22:07:04 <nsh> ok, ty anyway
612 2013-08-04 22:07:14 <nsh> it'll come out in the wash, just curious :)
613 2013-08-04 22:08:19 <nsh> everyone's a bit defcon'd still i think
614 2013-08-04 22:08:24 <nsh> or ohm'd
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619 2013-08-04 22:15:34 <ahmedbodi>  does anyone here know a good stratum which is compatible with bitcoin
620 2013-08-04 22:16:09 <Luke-Jr> ahmedbodi: please rephrase your question
621 2013-08-04 22:16:44 <sipa> i assume he's looking for a mining pool that supports stratum
622 2013-08-04 22:17:12 <ahmedbodi> basically im after a copy of stratum which will work with all sha256 based coins for use with my pools, i normally use moopless's stratum-mining-litecoin but thats incompatible with sha based coins
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624 2013-08-04 22:17:37 <sipa> stratum is a protocol
625 2013-08-04 22:17:48 <sipa> a copy of stratum doesn't mean muvh
626 2013-08-04 22:17:52 <sipa> much
627 2013-08-04 22:18:06 <Luke-Jr> ahmedbodi: You want a single poolserver that serves multiple coins at once?
628 2013-08-04 22:18:28 <Luke-Jr> I don't think that's even a goal for anyone; and not possible with a single stratum port
629 2013-08-04 22:18:44 <ahmedbodi> nooo
630 2013-08-04 22:19:05 <ahmedbodi> basically https://github.com/moopless/stratum-mining-litecoin
631 2013-08-04 22:19:13 <ahmedbodi> something like that but for sha based coins
632 2013-08-04 22:20:04 <sipa> https://github.com/slush0/stratum-mining
633 2013-08-04 22:20:05 <Luke-Jr> ahmedbodi: Eloipool?
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635 2013-08-04 22:20:24 <ahmedbodi> i did look at your implementation of eloipool Luke-Jr, only problem is compatibilty with my frontend i think
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637 2013-08-04 22:20:39 <ahmedbodi> does it work with standard mmcfe?
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639 2013-08-04 22:21:21 <Luke-Jr> ahmedbodi: no idea; the question is does mmcfe work with "standard" Eloipool :p
640 2013-08-04 22:21:42 <ahmedbodi> that question will do
641 2013-08-04 22:21:58 <ahmedbodi> does mmcfe work with the standard eloipool?
642 2013-08-04 22:22:27 <ahmedbodi> we can blame the speech barriers on american english haha
643 2013-08-04 22:22:31 <Luke-Jr> I don't even know what mmcfe is
644 2013-08-04 22:22:46 <ahmedbodi> its a frontend for mining pools
645 2013-08-04 22:22:58 <Luke-Jr> I would guess it's a matter of configuration
646 2013-08-04 22:23:01 <ahmedbodi> http://www.hobonickle.com/
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648 2013-08-04 22:23:10 <ahmedbodi> like that, which is my current pool :D
649 2013-08-04 22:23:25 <sipa> ahmedbodi: i have no idea what that stratum-mining does, but the github project was forked off that project by slush for which i gave you the link
650 2013-08-04 22:23:40 <sipa> my guess is that it is very similar, but for bitcoin
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652 2013-08-04 22:23:56 <ahmedbodi> yeah the one i gave is a litecoin version which has been cleaned up and optimized
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655 2013-08-04 22:25:03 <Luke-Jr> sipa: I don't think slush's version does any kind of pool logging
656 2013-08-04 22:25:21 <ahmedbodi> my main problem with eloipool is if it supports pushpool's db structure that way it wont take me long to modify the db to fit my frontend
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661 2013-08-04 22:28:37 <ahmedbodi> Luke-Jr: ^
662 2013-08-04 22:29:09 <Luke-Jr> ahmedbodi: Eloipool is fully configurable for the database. Just set it up to use pushpool's schema.
663 2013-08-04 22:29:27 <ahmedbodi> i see,
664 2013-08-04 22:29:36 <ahmedbodi> im guessing i have to set that in the config file
665 2013-08-04 22:39:08 <ahmedbodi> heres what the schema is for pushpool
666 2013-08-04 22:39:25 <ahmedbodi>  "stmt.pwdb":"SELECT password FROM pool_worker WHERE username = ?",
667 2013-08-04 22:39:26 <ahmedbodi>     "stmt.sharelog":"INSERT INTO shares (rem_host, username, our_result, upstream_result, reason, solution) VALUES (?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?)"
668 2013-08-04 22:39:28 <ahmedbodi>   },
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670 2013-08-04 22:40:35 <sipa> perhaps #bitcoin-mining ?
671 2013-08-04 22:40:52 <ahmedbodi> i see, i didnt know that existed, thanks
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673 2013-08-04 22:42:52 <ahmedbodi> as far as i can tell Luke-Jr's eloipool will work with the database perfectly, just one small little error for resolving
674 2013-08-04 22:44:14 <Luke-Jr> ahmedbodi: there is an example config for Eloipool
675 2013-08-04 22:44:24 <ahmedbodi> yeah thats what ive done a comparison to
676 2013-08-04 22:44:32 <ahmedbodi> and its almost working apart from the db part
677 2013-08-04 22:45:04 <ahmedbodi> the fronend reads the our_result and upstream_result as 0/1 wheres eloipool puts them as Y/N
678 2013-08-04 22:45:31 <Luke-Jr> that's odd, pushpool always used Y/N
679 2013-08-04 22:46:43 <ahmedbodi> give me a min to check my current db
680 2013-08-04 22:47:46 <ahmedbodi> never mind i seem to be misinformed, sorry about that
681 2013-08-04 22:47:56 <ahmedbodi> now all i need to get working is the user auth somehow
682 2013-08-04 22:53:13 <ahmedbodi> any ideas Luke-Jr
683 2013-08-04 22:54:26 <Luke-Jr> ahmedbodi: kinlo would know
684 2013-08-04 22:55:09 <ahmedbodi> i see, thanks bro, i gotta say, youve done some good work on eloipool from what ive seen
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