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5 2013-09-20 00:05:34 <longcat> eligius or p2pool?
6 2013-09-20 00:05:56 <wizkid057> eligius, ofc
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9 2013-09-20 00:06:05 <forrestv> p2pool
10 2013-09-20 00:06:13 <wizkid057> no u!
11 2013-09-20 00:06:13 <gmaxwell> If you'd even consider using p2pool you should be using p2pool.
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13 2013-09-20 00:06:59 <gmaxwell> wizkid057: go implement coinbase only mining with luke and you can have dibs on my first pass recommendations again. :P
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15 2013-09-20 00:07:22 <Luke-Jr> â¦
16 2013-09-20 00:07:25 <Luke-Jr> this is #bitcoin-dev
17 2013-09-20 00:07:40 <Luke-Jr> not #poolfight
18 2013-09-20 00:07:42 <wizkid057> lol
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21 2013-09-20 00:19:55 <longcat> i am using p2pool but I didnt really do much consideration beforehand. It seems the anti pool hopping mechanism hurts me when i want to use my 2x7990 to actually... play some slideshows/games (ugh, amd drivers...)
22 2013-09-20 00:20:29 <gmaxwell> uh. there is no anti-poolhopping that can hurt you in p2pool. It's simply immune to hopping.
23 2013-09-20 00:20:54 <Luke-Jr> it is higher variance, that "hurts" hoppers (intentional or not) short-term
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28 2013-09-20 00:25:58 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: huh? that doesn't have anything to do if you're hopping or not. Your return variance and expected return is the same regardless if you bunch up your work or spread it out.
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30 2013-09-20 00:27:19 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: 1 Th over 1 day is lower variance than 1 Th over 2 days
31 2013-09-20 00:27:26 <Luke-Jr> measured in time
32 2013-09-20 00:27:33 <gmaxwell> (there are pools that explictly penalize hoppers though)
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34 2013-09-20 00:28:57 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: I have no clue what you're saying there. If you are going to submit X shares there is a certian distribution of rewards you might recieve for those X shares, it doesn't matter when you submit them, the distribution is the same.
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36 2013-09-20 00:29:52 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: the same distribution across 1 day vs across 2 days is the same, yes, but the variance per day is higher
37 2013-09-20 00:30:21 <gavinandresen> #@)*)(*(*&&*(#$)_: Any advice on debugging this pull-tester-machine-upgrade problem: https://gist.github.com/gavinandresen/6631723
38 2013-09-20 00:31:15 <gmaxwell> Ok. This is still faires dancing on pinheads in any case. There are pools that seriously nail your expected income for "hopping" (though I think thats scummy)
39 2013-09-20 00:31:33 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|could someone help me out with the bitcoin php class?
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41 2013-09-20 00:31:48 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|trying to use send many, but api doesn't seem to like my input
42 2013-09-20 00:31:50 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|$bitcoin->sendmany("", $QueuePayment);
43 2013-09-20 00:32:03 <gmaxwell> gavinandresen: thats really useless looking.
44 2013-09-20 00:32:05 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|$QueuePayment is an array with address and amount
45 2013-09-20 00:32:34 <gavinandresen> gmaxwell: I agree. I ran dist-upgrade, there are no held packages....
46 2013-09-20 00:33:21 <gmaxwell> http://askubuntu.com/questions/124845/eerror-pkgproblemresolverresolve-generated-breaks-this-may-be-caused-by-hel not very helpful
47 2013-09-20 00:33:45 <Luke-Jr> gavinandresen: personally, I always "upgrade" binary distros by a clean install and reconfig
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49 2013-09-20 00:34:56 <gavinandresen> gmaxwell: the dist-upgrade/apt.log file has ⦠stuffâ¦. in it....
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54 2013-09-20 00:38:11 <cfields> gavinandresen: i would guess jenkins is the problem there, that's the only 3rd-party repo i see, at a quick glance
55 2013-09-20 00:38:38 <gavinandresen> mmm. will commenting that out of sources.list work?
56 2013-09-20 00:39:07 <gavinandresen> ⦠and by "work", I mean can I comment it out, upgrade, and then not have horrible terrible things happen if I try to put it back?
57 2013-09-20 00:39:34 <cfields> if that is indeed the problem, the jenkins repo has probably installed something that collides with the update
58 2013-09-20 00:39:45 <gavinandresen> okey dokey
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60 2013-09-20 00:40:16 <cfields> so you'd want to check to see which packages have come from there
61 2013-09-20 00:40:28 <gavinandresen> great! How do I do that?
62 2013-09-20 00:40:44 <gavinandresen> And once I do thatâ¦. then what?
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66 2013-09-20 00:42:14 <cfields> heh, i'm googling :)
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68 2013-09-20 00:47:47 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|is there a way to sendmany without a fromaccount?
69 2013-09-20 00:49:01 <gavinandresen> Neozonz|Disc: no
70 2013-09-20 00:49:35 <gmaxwell> Neozonz|Disc: ask what you're trying to accomplish not how you think you need to accomplish it.
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72 2013-09-20 00:50:22 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|I am attempting to code a function that sends many miners payments as one transaction via the sendmany feature
73 2013-09-20 00:50:49 <gmaxwell> okay, so use the empty string as your account, as thats the default account.
74 2013-09-20 00:51:06 <gavinandresen> ⦠and listaccounts will tell you if you have balances assigned to any other accounts
75 2013-09-20 00:51:14 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|I've been trying, but it seems to still reply with "sendmany requires an account"
76 2013-09-20 00:51:16 <gavinandresen> if you do, you can use move to reassign them
77 2013-09-20 00:51:36 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz| $bitcoin->sendmany('', $QueuePayment);
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79 2013-09-20 00:52:41 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|I am using the following class -> https://github.com/mikegogulski/bitcoin-php/blob/master/src/bitcoin.inc
80 2013-09-20 00:53:14 <gavinandresen> that's a bug in line 952 of that php code. An empty account is fine.
81 2013-09-20 00:54:02 <gavinandresen> should only error if account is null (I forget the weird php null versus empty-string versus false rules)
82 2013-09-20 00:54:41 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|ah ok, thank you so much
83 2013-09-20 00:55:28 <cfields> gavinandresen: i really can't see the problem, sorry
84 2013-09-20 00:56:37 <gavinandresen> okey dokey⦠I'll scroll back and find that java7 ppa and see if that works....
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88 2013-09-20 01:04:11 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|am i required to do a json_encode , example $bitcoin->sendmany('', json_encode($QueuePayment));
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92 2013-09-20 01:10:43 <gavinandresen> Pull Tester is still Experiencing Technical Difficulties. I'm giving up trying to fix it for now.
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97 2013-09-20 01:20:50 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: yea, I think I can get a java6 version
98 2013-09-20 01:20:52 <BlueMatt> give me a minute
99 2013-09-20 01:21:37 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: thanks!
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102 2013-09-20 01:25:41 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|i give up on sendmany
103 2013-09-20 01:25:47 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|now im getting Didn't receive 200 OK from remote server.
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105 2013-09-20 01:27:47 <gavinandresen> somebody should implement a -debug=rpc that spits out exactly the JSON receivedâ¦.
106 2013-09-20 01:28:06 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|+1
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109 2013-09-20 01:32:19 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|enabled the debugger on bitcoin php class
110 2013-09-20 01:32:20 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|and got this
111 2013-09-20 01:32:21 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|{"result":null,"error":{"code":-1,"message":"value is type str, expected real"},"id":null}
112 2013-09-20 01:34:11 <gavinandresen> Ah. You're passing numbers as strings instead of numbers.
113 2013-09-20 01:34:40 <gavinandresen> Cast the amounts to float (or real or whatever php calls them)
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116 2013-09-20 01:35:20 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|i did though :o
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119 2013-09-20 01:35:39 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz| doubleval($balance - $fees);
120 2013-09-20 01:36:11 <gmaxwell> in python people often get tripped up because it needs a dict not an array.
121 2013-09-20 01:36:14 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: try the version in git
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124 2013-09-20 01:37:04 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: will do....
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126 2013-09-20 01:39:37 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: while I'm copying things⦠can I get rid of /mnt/test-scripts/FullBlockTestGenerator.java? And any reason for the name change of BitcoinjBitcoindComparisonTool versus just BitcoindCompar....
127 2013-09-20 01:39:55 <BlueMatt> that is the java file which is there purely so people can see the source
128 2013-09-20 01:39:57 <BlueMatt> its out of date though
129 2013-09-20 01:40:02 <BlueMatt> so...I dunno, remote it I guess
130 2013-09-20 01:40:11 <BlueMatt> (/mnt/test-scripts is web-accessible)
131 2013-09-20 01:40:33 <gavinandresen> I'll remove it.
132 2013-09-20 01:40:58 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|play nice with me rpc!
133 2013-09-20 01:41:00 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|>_<
134 2013-09-20 01:41:04 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: its still useful
135 2013-09-20 01:41:12 <BlueMatt> the b** identifiers you can lookup in it should still be right
136 2013-09-20 01:41:25 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: where is the up-to-date version?
137 2013-09-20 01:41:57 <BlueMatt> https://code.google.com/r/bluemattme-bitcoinj/source/browse/core/src/test/java/com/google/bitcoin/core/FullBlockTestGenerator.java?name=blocktester
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139 2013-09-20 01:42:05 <BlueMatt> https://bluemattme-bitcoinj.googlecode.com/git-history/blocktester/core/src/test/java/com/google/bitcoin/core/FullBlockTestGenerator.java <-- raw file
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141 2013-09-20 01:42:35 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: thanks
142 2013-09-20 01:44:00 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: while I have you⦠is patch.txt needed now that we have -regtest mode?
143 2013-09-20 01:44:20 <BlueMatt> shouldnt be
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147 2013-09-20 02:08:39 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: still getting a java error: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/pull-tester/03572435afc6c1f9a78fb5acdf4815f32adcbbf0/test.log
148 2013-09-20 02:08:48 <gavinandresen> The method getRemoteAddress() is undefined for the type SocketChannel
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165 2013-09-20 02:45:02 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: sorry...thats what I get for not checking if there are errors...
166 2013-09-20 02:45:07 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: new version uploaded
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178 2013-09-20 03:08:22 <gavinandresen> cfields: still around?
179 2013-09-20 03:08:33 <cfields> yep
180 2013-09-20 03:08:46 <gavinandresen> New pull-tester error; ./configure not found in the linux-build directory
181 2013-09-20 03:08:56 <gavinandresen> ⦠but it is in linux-build/$DISTDIR
182 2013-09-20 03:09:26 <cfields> hmm, got a log?
183 2013-09-20 03:09:38 <gavinandresen> cfields: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/pull-tester/03572435afc6c1f9a78fb5acdf4815f32adcbbf0/
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186 2013-09-20 03:13:44 <cfields> gavinandresen: is it running the .py in git?
187 2013-09-20 03:14:02 <gavinandresen> cfields: slightly different version. Why?
188 2013-09-20 03:14:28 <gavinandresen> cfields: I don't see how there would be a ./configure in the linux-build directoryâ¦.
189 2013-09-20 03:14:31 <cfields> just trying to understand what's changed. not sure how it could end up a layer too deep that way
190 2013-09-20 03:14:38 <gavinandresen> Looking at build-tests.sh
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192 2013-09-20 03:15:05 <gavinandresen> (but I don't know what make distdir does)
193 2013-09-20 03:15:38 <cfields> gavinandresen: make distdir makes a bootstrapped dir named bitcoin-0.8.99. meaning no ./autogen.sh is needed in it
194 2013-09-20 03:15:59 <cfields> we then rename that to linux-build, and do a fresh build in there
195 2013-09-20 03:16:44 <gavinandresen> cfields: ah, move-as-rename, not move as move-into-the-existing-directory-called-linux-build
196 2013-09-20 03:17:31 <cfields> gavinandresen: correct. looks like it's very likely that it's doing the latter though
197 2013-09-20 03:17:47 <cfields> i suppose it could do that if the dir wasn't wiped
198 2013-09-20 03:18:40 <gmaxwell> gavinandresen: oops. 92f2c1fe Use boost::asio::deadline_timer for walletpassphrase timeout breaks using walletpassphrase in the debug console on a node that doesn't have the rpc running.
199 2013-09-20 03:19:48 <gavinandresen> gmaxwell: ah⦠that makes sense.
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202 2013-09-20 03:23:22 <cfields> gavinandresen: yea, i think that's what's happening. a bit hard to follow that py though
203 2013-09-20 03:23:32 <cfields> was it changed in a way that old builds could be hanging around?
204 2013-09-20 03:23:51 <gavinandresen> checkout_pull does: run("rm -rf ${BUILD_DIR}")
205 2013-09-20 03:24:02 <gavinandresen> BUILD_DIR is the chroot-environment 'bitcoin' directory....
206 2013-09-20 03:24:20 <gavinandresen> I'm running through those manually, will see what I get.
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211 2013-09-20 03:32:52 <gavinandresen> bah, I'm befuddledâ¦.
212 2013-09-20 03:34:23 <cfields> anything interesting?
213 2013-09-20 03:34:40 <gavinandresen> successfully building master in the chroot environment...
214 2013-09-20 03:36:06 <gavinandresen> ⦠and make check is running the block tester nicely.
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218 2013-09-20 03:36:57 <gavinandresen> I have no idea how pull-tester.py might start with a linux-build. It removes the entire build directory before git clone / git merge / etc
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220 2013-09-20 03:37:29 <gavinandresen> If there was more than one copy of it running at a time that would cause issues, but I wasn't doing that.
221 2013-09-20 03:37:31 <BlueMattBot> Project Bitcoin build #420: FAILURE in 22 sec: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/job/Bitcoin/420/
222 2013-09-20 03:37:43 <BlueMatt> :(
223 2013-09-20 03:38:02 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: the jenkins build bot uses a completely different environment from the pull-tester, right?
224 2013-09-20 03:38:40 <BlueMatt> its not in the chroot, but it (used to) be the same set of scripts or so
225 2013-09-20 03:38:44 <cfields> gavinandresen: would it halt on failure of an rf -rf ?
226 2013-09-20 03:38:52 <BlueMatt> -f implies no
227 2013-09-20 03:39:02 <cfields> any chance it's running but not getting fully nuked, i mean
228 2013-09-20 03:39:17 <BlueMatt> permissions error?
229 2013-09-20 03:39:30 <gavinandresen> runs as root, shouldn't be any permissions errors
230 2013-09-20 03:39:39 <cfields> yea, that's what i was thinking
231 2013-09-20 03:39:45 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: jenkins runs /mnt/test-scripts/build-script.sh still
232 2013-09-20 03:39:55 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: maybe that needs fixed, I dunno how the new system works?
233 2013-09-20 03:40:00 <cfields> mainly that suspicious lock file: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/pull-tester/03572435afc6c1f9a78fb5acdf4815f32adcbbf0/bitcoin/linux-build/
234 2013-09-20 03:40:30 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: fixing jenkins is on the list, after fixing pull-tester and getting it building win32 again
235 2013-09-20 03:40:37 <BlueMatt> ahhh
236 2013-09-20 03:40:42 <BlueMatt> so...things are borked
237 2013-09-20 03:40:57 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: can you turn off jenkins for now? I want to eliminate variables....
238 2013-09-20 03:41:33 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: paused the polling so it wont build
239 2013-09-20 03:41:46 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: thanks
240 2013-09-20 03:42:04 <BlueMatt> (go into configure and set it to poll scm if you want to reenable it this weekend into next week - Ill be gone for all of it)
241 2013-09-20 03:42:30 <gavinandresen> my brain is full⦠I just went to add a way to trace what pull-tester.py does and found I already done did that....
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243 2013-09-20 03:45:30 <cfields> BlueMatt: does the checker use an h2 database?
244 2013-09-20 03:45:49 <gavinandresen> cfields: still failing, here are the commands that pull-tester.py is running: https://gist.github.com/gavinandresen/6633037
245 2013-09-20 03:46:22 <BlueMatt> cfields: ummm...I think so, yes
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248 2013-09-20 03:55:04 <cfields> gavinandresen: hmm, am i missing something? looks like it doesn't cd into /mnt/chroot-tmp/mnt/bitcoin after cloning it?
249 2013-09-20 03:55:33 <cfields> or if it's already in there, it'd be in a weird state if you rm -rf $(PWD) && mkdir -p $(PWD)
250 2013-09-20 03:55:47 <gavinandresen> cwd=build_dir
251 2013-09-20 03:55:55 <gavinandresen> ⦠arguments to the run command
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253 2013-09-20 03:56:50 <gavinandresen> what IS that 1.lock.db file in linux-build.....
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255 2013-09-20 03:56:59 <cfields> i'm just looking at the output you pasted
256 2013-09-20 03:57:24 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
257 2013-09-20 03:57:34 <BlueMatt> mmmmmmmmmmmmm
258 2013-09-20 03:57:38 <gavinandresen> cfields: mmm. I should improve the TRACE code so it tells the directory if cwd is set....
259 2013-09-20 03:57:39 <cfields> it's a h2 database lock file, presumably created by the block checker
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261 2013-09-20 03:58:03 <BlueMatt> cfields: h2 lock files come in the form dbname.h2.lock iirc
262 2013-09-20 03:58:36 <cfields> BlueMatt: just going by the layout of the lock-file itself
263 2013-09-20 03:58:47 <BlueMatt> ahh, well if it says hw in it, sure
264 2013-09-20 03:58:55 <BlueMatt> h2
265 2013-09-20 03:59:37 <cfields> contents: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6Jw7NRHG
266 2013-09-20 04:01:37 <cfields> gavinandresen: ah, i see what you mean about cwd=build_dir. i was missing that part for sure
267 2013-09-20 04:01:49 <gavinandresen> ok, something weird is happening.
268 2013-09-20 04:02:12 <gavinandresen> I rm -rf linux-build and it immediately comes back
269 2013-09-20 04:02:34 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|i hate you bitcoin rpc >_<
270 2013-09-20 04:02:40 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|sendmany still doesn't work...
271 2013-09-20 04:02:48 <gavinandresen> ⦠so something is running on the pull-tester machine that is recreating that directory.
272 2013-09-20 04:02:53 <cfields> gavinandresen: sounds like you've got a process constantly remaking that lock
273 2013-09-20 04:03:22 <gavinandresen> cfields: ah, there is an old java BitcoindComparisonTool running
274 2013-09-20 04:04:08 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|{
275 2013-09-20 04:04:08 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|"method": "sendmany",
276 2013-09-20 04:04:08 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|"params": [
277 2013-09-20 04:04:08 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz| "",
278 2013-09-20 04:04:08 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz| "{\"1Pg6qB5gfibViLHpSxRD6UUMyVXhbTPgBe\":49.4}",
279 2013-09-20 04:04:09 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz| 1
280 2013-09-20 04:04:10 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|],
281 2013-09-20 04:04:12 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|"id": null
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283 2013-09-20 04:04:16 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|crap
284 2013-09-20 04:04:18 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|sorry
285 2013-09-20 04:04:36 <cfields> gavinandresen: hmm, that's annoying.
286 2013-09-20 04:05:00 <cfields> BlueMatt: can you see if it's possible to have that lock created elsewhere?
287 2013-09-20 04:05:26 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: s'all right, lock was from the java BitcoindComparisonTool running
288 2013-09-20 04:05:57 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|anyone wanna help me with my sendmany problem :<
289 2013-09-20 04:06:01 <gavinandresen> I killed that old process and should be better.
290 2013-09-20 04:08:33 <gavinandresen> Neozonz|Disc: so that would be: {"method":"sendmany", "params": ["", "{"1PGâ¦":49.4",] There should be no " before the { inside params.
291 2013-09-20 04:08:56 <gavinandresen> You're passing a string for the {address:amount} list, instead of an Object
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293 2013-09-20 04:10:15 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|orz
294 2013-09-20 04:10:20 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|my savior
295 2013-09-20 04:10:25 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|lemmie go fix that up
296 2013-09-20 04:10:58 <gavinandresen> keeping my fingers crossed that the eleventh time will be the charmâ¦.
297 2013-09-20 04:12:25 <gavinandresen> also wondering how make check could be taught to kill the java process if something goes haywire
298 2013-09-20 04:13:02 <gavinandresen> ⦠and then thinking that all of this might have taken less time if I'd written a gitian script to do the pull-testing and installed lxc on the pull-tester machine so it could gitian build things.....
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301 2013-09-20 04:19:16 <cfields> gavinandresen: it killed the process originally but you asked for it to be removed. To add it back just set TIMEOUT= in the check-local
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303 2013-09-20 04:20:32 <gavinandresen> "set TIMEOUT= in the check-local" â¦.. not following.
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305 2013-09-20 04:20:53 <cfields> jeez irc makes me sound dickish. the above should read: it honors a timeout env var if there's one set
306 2013-09-20 04:21:04 <gavinandresen> what is "it" ?
307 2013-09-20 04:21:17 <gavinandresen> Remember, my brain is full....
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309 2013-09-20 04:21:57 <cfields> gavinandresen: in Makefile.am: @TIMEOUT=15 qa/pull-tester/run-bitcoind-for-test.sh $(JAVA) ...
310 2013-09-20 04:22:30 <gavinandresen> that is 15 seconds? I think the tests take longer than that.
311 2013-09-20 04:23:46 <cfields> gavinandresen: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/Makefile.am#L121 . See line 121 and 149
312 2013-09-20 04:23:50 <gavinandresen> In any case, seems like setting a timeout will just make problems harder to debug in the future. "It's broken! debug debug⦠wait, no, it worksâ¦"
313 2013-09-20 04:24:10 <cfields> yes, that's seconds. You can add a TIMEOUT=1200 or so in the 2nd invocation if you want a watchdog for it
314 2013-09-20 04:26:04 <gavinandresen> afk for a while.
315 2013-09-20 04:30:09 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|array(1) {
316 2013-09-20 04:30:09 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz| ["1Pg6qB5gfibViLHpSxRD6UUMyVXhbTPgBe"]=>
317 2013-09-20 04:30:09 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz| float(49.4)
318 2013-09-20 04:30:09 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|}
319 2013-09-20 04:30:44 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|seems php puts the " around string arrays...
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323 2013-09-20 04:38:32 <Luke-Jr> Neozonz|Disc: why are you making a string array?
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325 2013-09-20 04:43:30 <jgarzik> SD is certainly odd
326 2013-09-20 04:43:40 <jgarzik> gets sold, and traffic drops to nil
327 2013-09-20 04:43:53 <jrmithdobbs> oh?
328 2013-09-20 04:43:57 <jgarzik> certainly seems to support the notion that a lot of the traffic was generated
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330 2013-09-20 04:44:06 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|Luke-Jr, trying to sendmany with bitcoin.inc.php
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332 2013-09-20 04:44:23 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|https://github.com/mikegogulski/bitcoin-php/blob/master/src/bitcoin.inc
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343 2013-09-20 05:03:46 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|Luke-Jr, any ideas?
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345 2013-09-20 05:12:06 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: Feel like writing a BIP? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297904.0 seems everyone is implementing signmessage in really horribly wrong ways.
346 2013-09-20 05:14:18 <Luke-Jr> maybe
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350 2013-09-20 05:20:52 <jgarzik> gmaxwell, BIP forÂ
a message format? multibit has a PGP-like format.
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352 2013-09-20 05:21:40 <gmaxwell> jgarzik: For the well established widely deployed signmessage functionality we already have, because apparently coding a var int is too hard to get right for some people. :)
353 2013-09-20 05:23:50 <gmaxwell> hm? multibit uses the normal signmessage stuff.
354 2013-09-20 05:24:02 <gmaxwell> The incompatible with everything else pgp like thing is armory.
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356 2013-09-20 05:25:23 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|does this library even work for sendmany?
357 2013-09-20 05:25:34 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|looks like my formatting is all correct
358 2013-09-20 05:25:50 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|but keep getting {"result":null,"error":{"code":-1,"message":"value is type str, expected obj"},"id":null}
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360 2013-09-20 05:25:56 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|driving me bonkers here
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367 2013-09-20 05:35:14 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: Block tester is getting stuck in a loop: 05:32:58 10 BitcoindComparisonTool.main: bitcoind still hasn't requested block b9 with hash 03c6e8ab3cd9c17dc694b3fb99b8b7ab5e9c8fa648a5bbd89d14d49a3f91dc9b
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372 2013-09-20 05:38:19 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: end of the debug.log: https://gist.github.com/gavinandresen/6633672
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374 2013-09-20 05:39:42 <gavinandresen> Neozonz|Disc: Your array should look like : { "1Pgâ¦" => 49.4 }
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376 2013-09-20 05:40:00 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|it does
377 2013-09-20 05:40:41 <gavinandresen> ok. Then maybe your PHP-JSON library is doing the wrong thing with Objects nested in Objects, but that seems unlikely.
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380 2013-09-20 05:42:00 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|Array
381 2013-09-20 05:42:00 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|(
382 2013-09-20 05:42:00 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz| [1PJjNS7KNV4i1FK1e9G6yk21gH9LBXViLg] => 49.4
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385 2013-09-20 05:43:35 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|i guess the library isn't working as expected...
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387 2013-09-20 05:49:30 <gavinandresen> Why is 1PJjN in an array?
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390 2013-09-20 05:50:00 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|?
391 2013-09-20 05:50:12 <gavinandresen> Neozonz|Disc: you have an array of addresses as the key
392 2013-09-20 05:50:32 <gavinandresen> Should be Array ( "1PJjNSâ¦" => 49.4 )
393 2013-09-20 05:50:38 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|:O
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396 2013-09-20 05:50:49 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|oops
397 2013-09-20 05:51:37 <gavinandresen> ⦠and if you have more than on address, Array ( "firstaddress" => amount, "secondaddress" => amount )
398 2013-09-20 05:51:49 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|yeah i understand
399 2013-09-20 05:52:05 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|looks like I was taking information the improper way from the first array
400 2013-09-20 05:52:24 <Neozonz> Disc!~Neozonz@unaffiliated/neozonz|I just wanted the key coin_address, and ended up putting the array
401 2013-09-20 05:52:27 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt: ⦠and of course NOW it is working perfectly
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403 2013-09-20 05:53:41 <gavinandresen> cfields: running make -j 1 seems to be working better, I think there is some parallelism issue with the make check with blocktester rules
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405 2013-09-20 06:03:53 <cfields> gavinandresen: hmm, i'll have a look
406 2013-09-20 06:04:34 <cfields> gavinandresen: any specific clashes?
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432 2013-09-20 06:54:18 <Neozonz> gavinandresen, apparently [] signifies keys
433 2013-09-20 06:54:32 <Neozonz> asked some php gurus
434 2013-09-20 06:54:40 <Neozonz> this sucks... im giving up
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444 2013-09-20 07:04:42 <Neozonz> i give up
445 2013-09-20 07:05:14 <Neozonz> if someone can test sendmany with bitcoin.inc.php @ https://github.com/mikegogulski/bitcoin-php/commits/master please and thank you
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458 2013-09-20 07:26:00 <warren> I'm having trouble finding the exact example that jgarzik pointed at of inline asm
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460 2013-09-20 07:32:48 <warren> gmaxwell: after I have a clean generic cpuid detector, do you want me to try multiple sha256 runtimes with autodetect?
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585 2013-09-20 12:17:50 <nkuttler> if i want to create a private testnet can i just change hashGenesisBlock, or what are those pchMessageStart things? or what's actually hashed?
586 2013-09-20 12:18:25 <jgarzik> warren, this? http://gtf.org/garzik/misc/mmx-test.c
587 2013-09-20 12:19:19 <jgarzik> gmaxwell, no, multibit signs every message with PGP-like ASCII armor thingy
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590 2013-09-20 12:21:58 <gmaxwell> jgarzik: hm? I went and tested it before talking to you. Plus if it weren't the standard format you couldn't use it for any of the services that need it.
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598 2013-09-20 12:23:35 <jgarzik> gmaxwell, to be clear I should have said "multibit author"
599 2013-09-20 12:24:25 <gmaxwell> ah okay, so he's just using some convention for wrapping up the regular signatures? Fair enough.
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603 2013-09-20 12:25:19 <jgarzik> gmaxwell, example, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143274.msg3074097#msg3074097
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707 2013-09-20 14:28:49 <jgarzik> What are the problems related to relaying non-final transactions, again?
708 2013-09-20 14:29:09 <jgarzik> I was thinking it would be nice to relay non-final transactions, with nLockTime in the near future (24-48 hours, perhaps).
709 2013-09-20 14:30:01 <jgarzik> That would help combat double spends in any scheme that employs nLockTime.
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711 2013-09-20 14:30:58 <jgarzik> In a practical sense, I mean. Obviously double-spends are possible. It's just sorta like the replace-by-fee argument: just because that is a theoretical possibility doesn't mean we want to be anti-social and immediately enable the behavior.
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715 2013-09-20 14:34:15 <Neozonz> disc!cdd2df82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.205.210.223.130|anyone use sendmany from the bitcoin library
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720 2013-09-20 14:40:40 <SomeoneWeird> 'bitcoin library'
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722 2013-09-20 14:41:19 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|SomeoneWeird: Neozonz|disc means the bitcoin-php library
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726 2013-09-20 14:46:37 <gcX46> Is there any way to stop my client from relaying mcoin txs?
727 2013-09-20 14:49:51 <gmaxwell> gcX46: yea, go get one of the old satoshi dice blocking patches and change the address.
728 2013-09-20 14:50:18 <gcX46> thanks ill look into it
729 2013-09-20 14:50:45 <gmaxwell> gcX46: but just blocking it yourself won't do much good, really you need to convince miners to block it.
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737 2013-09-20 15:02:25 <Luke-Jr> Neozonz|disc: frankly, I don't think anyone here would use bitcoin-php, or access bitcoind from php ever - or recommend it
738 2013-09-20 15:02:56 <Luke-Jr> Neozonz|disc: PHP is generally used on webservers, and giving a webserver a wallet is not too good an idea unless you have hired security experts
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741 2013-09-20 15:03:53 <UukGoblin> and PHP itself had many, maaany, security problems in the past
742 2013-09-20 15:04:42 <Neozonz> disc!cdd2df82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.205.210.223.130|i see
743 2013-09-20 15:04:51 <Neozonz> disc!cdd2df82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.205.210.223.130|is there a secure way to access bitcoind from php?
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745 2013-09-20 15:05:00 <Neozonz> disc!cdd2df82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.205.210.223.130|or a recommended way of accessing bitcoind
746 2013-09-20 15:05:14 <Luke-Jr> Neozonz|disc: not from a webserver
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751 2013-09-20 15:08:19 <jgarzik> Isn't PHP classified as a security hole, broadly speaking?
752 2013-09-20 15:08:20 <jgarzik> ;p
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754 2013-09-20 15:08:50 <Neozonz> disc!cdd2df82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.205.210.223.130|u guys are scaring the shit out of me
755 2013-09-20 15:08:51 <Neozonz> disc!cdd2df82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.205.210.223.130|lol
756 2013-09-20 15:09:08 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|Neozonz|disc: And so it should be.
757 2013-09-20 15:09:24 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|twitter.com/i0n1c
758 2013-09-20 15:11:06 <SomeoneWeird> jgarzik, lul
759 2013-09-20 15:11:29 <UukGoblin> Neozonz|disc, what do you mean by 'accessing'? Like, having a web application spending funds from your wallet?
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761 2013-09-20 15:12:53 <UukGoblin> cause if that's the case, I seriously would recommend not to do it, unless you're really good with security
762 2013-09-20 15:13:18 <UukGoblin> I consider myself able to code, but I wouldn't attempt such a thing
763 2013-09-20 15:14:39 <Neozonz> disc!cdd2df82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.205.210.223.130|yes a pool interface sending payments to miners via sendmany
764 2013-09-20 15:14:45 <Neozonz> disc!cdd2df82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.205.210.223.130|pool interface being mmcfe-ng
765 2013-09-20 15:16:53 <Luke-Jr> (no wonder so many pools have been robbed..)
766 2013-09-20 15:17:11 <Neozonz> disc!cdd2df82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.205.210.223.130|Luke-Jr: is there a copy of eloipool on github?
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768 2013-09-20 15:17:17 <Luke-Jr> no
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776 2013-09-20 15:35:54 <Neozonz> disc!cdd2df82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.205.210.223.130|Luke-Jr: how does eloipool make payments?
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778 2013-09-20 15:36:06 <Luke-Jr> it doesn't
779 2013-09-20 15:36:20 <Luke-Jr> except if you use CoinbaserCmd to generate the
780 2013-09-20 15:36:21 <Luke-Jr> them*
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820 2013-09-20 17:01:12 <Neozonz> disc!cdd2df82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.205.210.223.130|where is the actual magic value for network id in bitcoin located?
821 2013-09-20 17:01:39 <Neozonz> disc!cdd2df82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.205.210.223.130|i see it is "0xD9B4BEF9" but where in the bitcoin source code is it? :o
822 2013-09-20 17:01:43 <Neozonz> disc!cdd2df82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.205.210.223.130|(from wiki)
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901 2013-09-20 19:01:22 <cfields> gavinandresen: for backlog, i've got some time this weekend, let me know if i can help out with pulltester
902 2013-09-20 19:03:43 <longcat> so... p2pool uses pplns... which, if you aren't mining all of the time, you may as well be a pool hopper because you're kinda going to get screwed
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905 2013-09-20 19:05:10 <Luke-Jr> longcat: this isn't #bitcoin-mining or #p2pool, it's #bitcoin-dev
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910 2013-09-20 19:08:29 <longcat> nobody really had a problem yesterday. oh well
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923 2013-09-20 19:19:14 <maraoz> Howdy. Is there a reference python code for creating raw bitcoin transactions? To broadcast for example here: https://coinb.in/send-raw-transaction.html
924 2013-09-20 19:20:03 <maraoz> I don't want to reinvent the wheel, and I coudn't find good docs on raw tx format besides: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Raw_Transactions
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932 2013-09-20 19:29:11 <Luke-Jr> maraoz: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Protocol_specification#tx
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935 2013-09-20 19:32:57 <maraoz> Luke-Jr: Thanks! That's a wiki page I certainly need to read.
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978 2013-09-20 20:27:59 <yrashk> is there any lightweight open source blockchain listener that would listen the blockchain for specified pubkeys and notifies when new payments come in and when they get more confirmations (#not entirely happy with our current solution)?
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981 2013-09-20 20:29:49 <weex> yrashk: are these your pubkeys, i.e. ones in your wallet?
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983 2013-09-20 20:30:27 <warren> yrashk: watch-only patch with walltnotify might work
984 2013-09-20 20:33:40 <yrashk> yeah, my pubkeys, and there could be many of them
985 2013-09-20 20:33:46 <yrashk> hundreds, thousands, etc.
986 2013-09-20 20:34:06 <yrashk> hundreds of thousands even
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988 2013-09-20 20:37:29 <warren> yrashk: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2861
989 2013-09-20 20:38:21 <yrashk> I am also considering writing a very limited blockchain listener that only recognizes standard payment scripts
990 2013-09-20 20:40:08 <yrashk> nevertheless, I assume this means there is no good lightweight solution specific to this problem (I researched extensively before coming here)
991 2013-09-20 20:41:09 <warren> yrashk: if you want to notify when new payments come in, presumably you want to verify that they are valid based on the UTXO set, and it is confirmed at a deep enough level?
992 2013-09-20 20:42:23 <yrashk> yeah
993 2013-09-20 20:42:50 <yrashk> I was thinking of listening for tx, and then on every block, query bitcoind with getrawtransaction
994 2013-09-20 20:43:10 <yrashk> to update status of those txs that matched (with the standard payment script)
995 2013-09-20 20:43:16 <yrashk> (for addresses in my receiving pool)
996 2013-09-20 20:45:25 <warren> yrashk: watch-only seems to be helpful here
997 2013-09-20 20:49:01 <yrashk> do you think the watch-only patch will be able to handle large amounts of watch only addresses?
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999 2013-09-20 20:50:35 <warren> yrashk: comparable to the performance of addresses in a wallet today
1000 2013-09-20 20:50:50 <warren> yrashk: there are a few wallet performance patches, uncertain if they can help this.
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1019 2013-09-20 21:29:54 <weex> yrashk: you might also look at pynode
1020 2013-09-20 21:30:12 <weex> it can be modified to print out most anything when a new tx comes in
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1022 2013-09-20 21:30:31 <weex> and if you could figure out how to get it to print out an address from a scriptpubkey i would be your best friend
1023 2013-09-20 21:30:58 <weex> https://github.com/jgarzik/pynode
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1090 2013-09-20 23:34:16 <phantomcircuit> sipa, question, i have a wallet from 0.6.x which i want to load in 0.8.4
1091 2013-09-20 23:34:26 <phantomcircuit> is there anything special i should take into consideration?
1092 2013-09-20 23:34:48 <phantomcircuit> (the .bitcoin dir is 0.8.4)
1093 2013-09-20 23:34:49 * Luke-Jr doesn't think wallets have changed since 0.6
1094 2013-09-20 23:34:56 <gmaxwell> should just work
1095 2013-09-20 23:35:15 <Luke-Jr> and if they have, nothing should break compat unless you manually do -walletupgrade
1096 2013-09-20 23:35:32 <phantomcircuit> "should" being the operative word :)
1097 2013-09-20 23:36:12 <jgarzik> phantomcircuit, you are (a) using official binaries both times, or (b) both have been linked with same BDB lib version?
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1099 2013-09-20 23:36:45 <phantomcircuit> jgarzik, good question, 0.6.x is not an official binary
1100 2013-09-20 23:36:53 <phantomcircuit> it's linked against libdb 4.8.30
1101 2013-09-20 23:36:55 <Luke-Jr> phantomcircuit: obviously keep your backup
1102 2013-09-20 23:37:02 <phantomcircuit> Luke-Jr, oh definitely
1103 2013-09-20 23:37:15 <phantomcircuit> this is the stupid momentovps hotwallet which isn't the public node
1104 2013-09-20 23:37:25 <phantomcircuit> i just never cared to upgrade it
1105 2013-09-20 23:37:25 <Luke-Jr> I'd say the chance it destroys the coins or sends them wrongly is zero
1106 2013-09-20 23:37:42 <Luke-Jr> so as long as there's a backup, it's fine
1107 2013-09-20 23:37:54 <phantomcircuit> im currently waiting on tar to finish backing up the entire data directory and the bitcoind binary
1108 2013-09-20 23:37:56 <phantomcircuit> just in case
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1115 2013-09-20 23:43:42 <phantomcircuit> oh 0.8.5 was released
1116 2013-09-20 23:43:45 <phantomcircuit> didn't even notice
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