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 469 2013-10-08 12:42:21 <delf_> hey...can someone help me out and send me a coin on testnet? would be very helpfull ^^ mpZj27HLcJc9zq5WHJzq3dkPnWZGwv3bqA
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 475 2013-10-08 12:46:43 <grau> http://testnet.mojocoin.com
 476 2013-10-08 12:48:34 <delf_> thx ^^
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 578 2013-10-08 15:43:36 <Vinnie_win> Did the bitcointalk.org user accounts all get reset?
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 581 2013-10-08 15:45:17 <pigeons> what do you mean by reset?
 582 2013-10-08 15:45:26 <pigeons> mine is working as before
 583 2013-10-08 15:45:28 <Vinnie_win> pigeons: All accounts deleted?
 584 2013-10-08 15:45:32 <pigeons> no
 585 2013-10-08 15:45:34 <Vinnie_win> Okay. Must be a problem on my end then
 586 2013-10-08 15:46:22 <pigeons> all the sessions were deleted, so you need to clear cookies and log in again, other than that no
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 588 2013-10-08 15:51:37 <Vinnie_win> That helped!
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 609 2013-10-08 16:15:30 <maaku> Vinnie_win: also, change your password...
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 628 2013-10-08 16:41:11 <t7> hi guys
 629 2013-10-08 16:41:27 <t7> when i resize my window, nothing seem to be drawn
 630 2013-10-08 16:41:41 <t7> i set glViewport again
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 634 2013-10-08 16:45:56 <t7> its like my projection or modelview is messing up
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 637 2013-10-08 16:46:36 <t7> oh darn its not my code
 638 2013-10-08 16:46:38 <wumpus> t7: are you sure you're in the right channel?
 639 2013-10-08 16:46:50 <t7> nope haha
 640 2013-10-08 16:46:51 <TD> hardware accelerated wallets are the future :)
 641 2013-10-08 16:46:51 <TD> haha
 642 2013-10-08 16:46:55 <wumpus> lol
 643 2013-10-08 16:47:07 <Belxjander> hardware accelerated in what way though?
 644 2013-10-08 16:47:16 <t7> verification
 645 2013-10-08 16:47:22 <t7> we want opencl ECDSA
 646 2013-10-08 16:47:29 <Belxjander> the entire "key" hoard being "on a chip" until used and purged to a history database ?>
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 692 2013-10-08 17:47:10 <_dr> t7: does that even make sense?
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 694 2013-10-08 17:47:24 <ath8> I have what I believe is likely a simple question about Bitcoin's RNG. Is anyone here a little bit familiar with it?
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 697 2013-10-08 17:48:07 <gmaxwell_> Do not ask to ask, just ask.
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 700 2013-10-08 17:49:15 <ath8> The code uses RAND_bytes in various places for random number generation. It takes as input a buffer and the number of bytes you want it to generate. Is this calling OpenSSL's RAND_bytes function? Or is this a wrapper somewhere which I cannot find? I'm asking because OpenSSL's RAND_bytes returns a 1 on success or a 0 on failure but we don't appear to be checking its return value... unless I just don't see it. I'm not very familiar with C and C++
 701 2013-10-08 17:50:38 <ath8> Or is there rationale for not checking its return value?
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 703 2013-10-08 17:53:31 <gmaxwell> ath8: not that I'm aware of, grepping the openssl code, I see that openssl itself doesn't appear to check it everywhere. I would WAG that it can only fail if no method is initilized, but probably not best to depend on that.
 704 2013-10-08 17:54:56 <ath8> hmm
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 709 2013-10-08 18:00:44 <gmaxwell> sipa: most awesome backdoor sequence ever: put all rand calls directly in the assert macro... then later get in a patch to NDEBUG the codebase. :P
 710 2013-10-08 18:01:41 <ThomasV> lol
 711 2013-10-08 18:02:30 <sipa> haha
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 724 2013-10-08 18:17:40 <ThomasV> !seen jim618
 725 2013-10-08 18:17:40 <gribble> jim618 was last seen in #bitcoin-dev 1 year, 33 weeks, 5 days, 21 hours, 18 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <jim618> Happy Valentine's Day!
 726 2013-10-08 18:17:49 <pigeons> so sad
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 734 2013-10-08 18:24:03 <GuyPaddock> hey guys
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 736 2013-10-08 18:24:21 <GuyPaddock> Anyone know why the TestNet difficulty is now coming back as 1.3 or so?
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 746 2013-10-08 18:38:27 <midnightmagic>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S   %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
 747 2013-10-08 18:38:27 <midnightmagic> 30548 ms        20   0 12760  680  348 S 999999  0.0   0:00.00 /bin/sh
 748 2013-10-08 18:38:28 <midnightmagic> lol
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 750 2013-10-08 18:39:34 <pigeons> :(){ :|:& };:
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 760 2013-10-08 18:45:37 <Luke-Jr> pigeons: don't do that.
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 770 2013-10-08 19:01:01 <GuyPaddock> Is it normal for testnet difficulty to drop back to 1?
 771 2013-10-08 19:01:14 <maaku> GuyPaddock: yes
 772 2013-10-08 19:01:41 <GuyPaddock> Does it increase the same was as prod (after so many X blocks)?
 773 2013-10-08 19:02:07 <sipa> the same rules as the normal bitcoin network apply, it just has much lower hash rates
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 775 2013-10-08 19:02:28 <sipa> also, there is one special rule, that after 20 minutes of inactivity, (a single) difficulty-1 block is allowed
 776 2013-10-08 19:02:42 <GuyPaddock> Ah, okay...
 777 2013-10-08 19:03:04 <GuyPaddock> Right now there's a new block like literally every 5-10 secs.
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 780 2013-10-08 19:03:31 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|That'll just be someone with an ASIC or two pointed at testnet
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 783 2013-10-08 19:04:19 <gmaxwell> or he's still catching up.
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 786 2013-10-08 19:05:14 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|Oh -- or that :-P
 787 2013-10-08 19:05:37 <GuyPaddock> catching up in what sense?
 788 2013-10-08 19:06:05 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|Downloading blocks from your peers
 789 2013-10-08 19:06:27 <Luke-Jr> gah, -O0 disables warnings :/
 790 2013-10-08 19:06:45 <sipa> some warning requires analysis that isn't performed at low optimization levels
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 792 2013-10-08 19:06:52 <GuyPaddock> well, in my case, I'm caught up. I was already on testnet running some tests with pool software. Then, all of a sudden, my test miners started scoring blocks left and right
 793 2013-10-08 19:07:00 <GuyPaddock> and I was like "What did I break on the pool?" lol
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 797 2013-10-08 19:07:43 <Luke-Jr> sipa: wish I could tell it to do the analysis and discard the results of optimization
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 799 2013-10-08 19:09:16 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|GuyPaddock: ah, might it be near a 2016-block boundary?
 800 2013-10-08 19:09:58 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|If I recall correctly, if at a 2016-block mark the 20 minute rule kicks in, the difficulty will be reset to 1
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 803 2013-10-08 19:10:08 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: O1 should pretty much never break debugging, O2 should only infrequently.
 804 2013-10-08 19:10:26 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|s/near/at/
 805 2013-10-08 19:10:29 <Luke-Jr> -O2 makes gdb jump around weirdly on x86
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 816 2013-10-08 19:15:39 <GuyPaddock> @michagogo|cloud: ah, was not aware.
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 842 2013-10-08 19:54:27 <Varan2> Hi iḿ trying to run the tests for the btcwire go package, but I have some problems
 843 2013-10-08 19:55:02 <Varan2> When i clone the repo from github and then run go test
 844 2013-10-08 19:55:16 GingerGeek is now known as GingerGeek[Away]
 845 2013-10-08 19:55:32 <Varan2> It says the following ./blockheader_test.go:135: undefined: btcwire.TstWriteBlockHeader
 846 2013-10-08 19:55:47 <Varan2> Does anyone know a solution?
 847 2013-10-08 19:57:29 <Ry4an> Varan2: can you find that type in the source?  Look where it's definited and make sure your GO_ROOT is set so that it'll be found?
 848 2013-10-08 19:57:55 <Varan2> yeah itś in internal_test.go
 849 2013-10-08 19:58:14 <Varan2> But I think is solved it... it does work when i run go test github.com/conformal/btcwire
 850 2013-10-08 19:59:26 <Ry4an> Varan2: your IRC client is using crazy glyphs for apostrophes.  This is in 1988 technology and we should keep it that way. ;)
 851 2013-10-08 19:59:41 <Varan2> Hmm sorry
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 853 2013-10-08 20:00:26 <pigeons> actually its your client Ry4an
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 855 2013-10-08 20:01:02 <Ry4an> my client is fully UTF-8 and so is my term.  but Varan2 is the first I've seen this in 10 years on freenode
 856 2013-10-08 20:01:12 <pigeons> hmm
 857 2013-10-08 20:01:22 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|That's not 's, that's ś
 858 2013-10-08 20:01:26 <sipa> i see weird glyphs too
 859 2013-10-08 20:01:45 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo| U+015B LATIN SMALL LETTER S WITH ACUTE (ś)
 860 2013-10-08 20:01:53 <sipa> i'm -> iḿ
 861 2013-10-08 20:01:57 <Varan2> This is just X-Chat on Ubuntu ... so pretty basic
 862 2013-10-08 20:02:13 <sipa> what do you see in your first sentence?
 863 2013-10-08 20:02:20 <sipa> an apostrophe between i and m?
 864 2013-10-08 20:02:31 <Ry4an> I'm not saying you're a bad person, just that I've sene a lot of IRC and neverthis.  Certainly seen other xchat on ubuntu.
 865 2013-10-08 20:02:31 <sipa> 21:52:41 < Varan2> Hi iḿ trying to run the tests for the btcwire go package, but I have some problems
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 868 2013-10-08 20:02:53 <pigeons> that's WTF-8
 869 2013-10-08 20:03:00 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|I see that too: U+1E3F LATIN SMALL LETTER M WITH ACUTE (ḿ)
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 871 2013-10-08 20:03:13 <sipa> punycode
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 874 2013-10-08 20:06:36 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|Is that what punycode is? I thought it was those gibberish strings for non-Latin URLs
 875 2013-10-08 20:06:47 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|Er, domain names*
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 877 2013-10-08 20:07:14 <sipa> yeah
 878 2013-10-08 20:07:20 <sipa> it's still a funny name :)
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 903 2013-10-08 20:25:28 <swulf--> Just browsing bitcoin network code... if peer P connects to S, P first sends 'version' and S responds with 'version' and 'verack'. Is it required that P also send back 'verack'?  From my understanding of the code, everything works just fine if P never sends 'verack'.  In fact, it almost looks like everything works fine if P never sends anything at all, ever.  Seems like no incoming data
 904 2013-10-08 20:25:28 <swulf--> from P ought to trigger misbehavior .. surely, I'm just misreading code?
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 906 2013-10-08 20:26:25 <sipa> i think the version on the sending path is not set until verack is received
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 909 2013-10-08 20:27:16 <swulf--> looks to me like P treats S like a normal peer regardless of verack or not?
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 911 2013-10-08 20:28:33 <swulf--> nRecvVersion is almost never used.. feels like handshake shouldn't be complete until after verack, and peers should be dropped if handshake doesn't complete after x seconds?
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1008 2013-10-08 21:54:03 <arioBarzan> Damn genius Satoshi! OP_CHECKSIG is too f-ing complex , and I hate that I can't understand it. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/OP_CHECKSIG
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1033 2013-10-08 22:14:38 <Thepok> hello!
1034 2013-10-08 22:14:45 <Thepok> is there an eta for HD-Wallets?
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1036 2013-10-08 22:15:01 <sipa> in which software?
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1038 2013-10-08 22:15:30 <Thepok> QT
1039 2013-10-08 22:15:42 <Thepok> or any
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1042 2013-10-08 22:16:02 <sipa> there are already implementations
1043 2013-10-08 22:16:17 <sipa> in the reference client, maybe in 0.9, perhaps later
1044 2013-10-08 22:16:35 <Thepok> oh wich is the most mature one?
1045 2013-10-08 22:16:41 <Thepok> with a GUI
1046 2013-10-08 22:17:06 <sipa> no idra
1047 2013-10-08 22:17:12 <sipa> *no idea
1048 2013-10-08 22:17:24 <Thepok> k il look
1049 2013-10-08 22:17:25 <sipa> not sure any
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1058 2013-10-08 22:26:51 <pigeons> what is HD?
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1060 2013-10-08 22:28:46 <sipa> hierarchical deterministic wallets
1061 2013-10-08 22:28:54 <sipa> ;;google bip 0032
1062 2013-10-08 22:28:55 <gribble> BIP 0032 - Bitcoin: <https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0032>; BIP 0032 TestVectors - Bitcoin: <https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0032_TestVectors>; Deterministic wallet - Bitcoin: <https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Deterministic_wallet>
1063 2013-10-08 22:29:11 <pigeons> thank you
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1074 2013-10-08 22:38:55 <Thayer> hello everyone I have kind of a wierd question, I have a new software idea for bitcoin mining, and I would like to know how to recieve a "practice block" to try out my idea. Does anyone know how I can do this
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1077 2013-10-08 22:40:54 <gmaxwell> run testnet.
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