1 2013-11-20 00:00:20 darsie has joined
2 2013-11-20 00:01:44 pataroose has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
3 2013-11-20 00:01:49 <darsie> Does the bitcoin network accept alternate blockchains forking at arbitrary heights, e.g. starting at block 2?
4 2013-11-20 00:01:58 agricocb has joined
5 2013-11-20 00:02:06 skez has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
6 2013-11-20 00:02:09 <darsie> Was the genesis block #1? Or #0?
7 2013-11-20 00:02:54 <sipa> #0
8 2013-11-20 00:02:59 czheo has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
9 2013-11-20 00:03:07 <sipa> darsie: you can't fork below the last checkpoint
10 2013-11-20 00:03:16 <darsie> What's a checkpoint?
11 2013-11-20 00:03:21 c0rw1n has joined
12 2013-11-20 00:03:28 <sipa> a hardcoded block in the client code
13 2013-11-20 00:03:31 <darsie> k
14 2013-11-20 00:03:48 <darsie> upgraded at each release?
15 2013-11-20 00:03:54 <sipa> occassionally
16 2013-11-20 00:04:04 <darsie> k
17 2013-11-20 00:04:14 <gmaxwell> darsie: just pretend they don't exist. ... whats you're actual concern there?
18 2013-11-20 00:04:27 <gmaxwell> (/me anticipates a misunderstanding of the better criteria)
19 2013-11-20 00:04:41 <darsie> gmaxwell: Just wondering if NSA could invalidate the blockchain by making a new one.
20 2013-11-20 00:04:56 <sipa> if they actually amass enough power to do so, we have a problem
21 2013-11-20 00:05:08 topace has joined
22 2013-11-20 00:05:13 <darsie> Like, by outlawing btc, thus reducing mining and then mining themselves.
23 2013-11-20 00:05:22 <gmaxwell> darsie: If they can outpace the network, and choose to do so, then bitcoin is broken regardless of at what point they diverge from.
24 2013-11-20 00:05:32 <darsie> yep
25 2013-11-20 00:06:03 <gmaxwell> In that threat case diverging earlier just makes the attack more expensive, not more powerful.
26 2013-11-20 00:06:10 dparrish has joined
27 2013-11-20 00:06:33 AndyOfiesh has joined
28 2013-11-20 00:06:50 andy has quit (Quit: Page closed)
29 2013-11-20 00:06:54 deepc0re has quit (Quit: deepc0re)
30 2013-11-20 00:10:13 macboz has joined
31 2013-11-20 00:10:56 Belxjander has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
32 2013-11-20 00:11:40 <AndyOfiesh> I am trying to find the code that calculates the priority ofa transaction. It's described on the WIKI as this "priority = sum(input_value_in_base_units * input_age)/size_in_bytes". It seems to have been removed, and the min transaction fee has been simplfied a bit. Is there any truth to that? Can I assume that all criteria for determining the minimum fee of a transaction is in GetMinFee() in main.cpp?
33 2013-11-20 00:12:11 <gmaxwell> AndyOfiesh: no.
34 2013-11-20 00:13:32 imton has joined
35 2013-11-20 00:13:54 <gmaxwell> AndyOfiesh: search the codebase for dPriority ... also the most recent release and git are different, so look at the one that's applicable to your interest.
36 2013-11-20 00:13:58 zcopley has joined
37 2013-11-20 00:14:22 zcopley is now known as Guest60440
38 2013-11-20 00:14:51 treaki_ has joined
39 2013-11-20 00:14:55 Guest60440 is now known as zcopley
40 2013-11-20 00:15:46 treaki has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
41 2013-11-20 00:15:47 <AndyOfiesh> GMaxwell: Thanks for the pointer. I was off in the wrong part of town. I see what I need wallet.cpp now.
42 2013-11-20 00:15:50 <Luke-Jr> AndyOfiesh: inevitably, priority is a miner-chosen thing. the fact that bitcoind has code for it at all is essentially a flaw because we haven't abstracted it out yet
43 2013-11-20 00:15:57 TD has quit (Quit: TD)
44 2013-11-20 00:16:15 roconnor has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
45 2013-11-20 00:16:19 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: it's still useful for realying too.
46 2013-11-20 00:16:27 <gmaxwell> to prevent denial of service.
47 2013-11-20 00:16:42 c0rw1n has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
48 2013-11-20 00:17:08 c0rw1n has joined
49 2013-11-20 00:17:29 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: relay nodes should be prioritising per-node too :P
50 2013-11-20 00:18:02 zcopley has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
51 2013-11-20 00:18:07 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: maybe.
52 2013-11-20 00:18:20 bbrian has joined
53 2013-11-20 00:20:07 t7 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
54 2013-11-20 00:21:55 Maged has joined
55 2013-11-20 00:22:03 tsche has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
56 2013-11-20 00:22:34 bbrian has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
57 2013-11-20 00:23:15 pecket has joined
58 2013-11-20 00:23:22 c0rw1n has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
59 2013-11-20 00:23:48 eristisk has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
60 2013-11-20 00:23:54 richcollins has quit (Quit: richcollins)
61 2013-11-20 00:23:55 c0rw1n has joined
62 2013-11-20 00:24:01 zcopley has joined
63 2013-11-20 00:24:25 zcopley is now known as Guest95543
64 2013-11-20 00:24:48 Guest95543 is now known as zcopley
65 2013-11-20 00:26:28 MoALTz_ has joined
66 2013-11-20 00:26:33 tsche has joined
67 2013-11-20 00:26:38 eristisk has joined
68 2013-11-20 00:28:09 yubrew has joined
69 2013-11-20 00:28:42 MoALTz has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
70 2013-11-20 00:30:27 agricocb has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
71 2013-11-20 00:30:48 Dennismckinnon has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
72 2013-11-20 00:33:06 Dennismckinnon has joined
73 2013-11-20 00:34:36 grubles has joined
74 2013-11-20 00:34:53 <grubles> can bitcoin-qt be compiled on ppc?
75 2013-11-20 00:34:59 <grubles> using debian
76 2013-11-20 00:35:51 <Luke-Jr> no
77 2013-11-20 00:36:02 pecket has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
78 2013-11-20 00:36:03 nOgAnOo has joined
79 2013-11-20 00:36:10 Belxjander has joined
80 2013-11-20 00:37:23 <grubles> shucks
81 2013-11-20 00:37:56 <grubles> Im moderately disappointed
82 2013-11-20 00:38:26 zd has joined
83 2013-11-20 00:39:17 zcopley has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
84 2013-11-20 00:40:29 groglogic has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
85 2013-11-20 00:40:54 kis has joined
86 2013-11-20 00:41:06 XRayKat1 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
87 2013-11-20 00:41:08 kis has left ()
88 2013-11-20 00:41:36 AndyOfiesh has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
89 2013-11-20 00:43:08 XRayKat has joined
90 2013-11-20 00:43:28 AndyOfiesh has joined
91 2013-11-20 00:45:49 btcbtc has joined
92 2013-11-20 00:46:34 Coincidental has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
93 2013-11-20 00:47:09 Coincidental has joined
94 2013-11-20 00:47:21 wallet43 has joined
95 2013-11-20 00:49:28 Sparxter has quit ()
96 2013-11-20 00:50:56 [\\\]_k has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
97 2013-11-20 00:51:36 Coincidental has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
98 2013-11-20 00:55:42 <gmaxwell> grubles: it can be _compiled_ and it links, but it will not run.
99 2013-11-20 00:56:14 oPen_syLar has quit (Quit: Lost terminal)
100 2013-11-20 00:56:31 <super3> how does bitcoin-qt generate the percentage indication for syncing?
101 2013-11-20 00:56:44 Coincidental has joined
102 2013-11-20 00:57:23 <gmaxwell> super3: it's an estimate based on an assumption of transactions per second and the current date and the date and transactions synced so far.
103 2013-11-20 00:57:40 drayah has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
104 2013-11-20 00:58:32 <grubles> gmaxwell, thanks
105 2013-11-20 00:59:08 HaltingState has quit (Quit: Leaving)
106 2013-11-20 00:59:13 <super3> gmaxwell, ok. could you point me to a source file for that?
107 2013-11-20 00:59:33 darsie has quit (Killed (rothfuss.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))
108 2013-11-20 01:00:17 apurplehorse has joined
109 2013-11-20 01:01:25 <gmaxwell> super3: GuessVerificationProgress in checkpoints.cpp
110 2013-11-20 01:03:21 <super3> gmaxwell, why not just ask another node for an estimate block count?
111 2013-11-20 01:03:35 <sipa> we do
112 2013-11-20 01:04:07 <sipa> but blocks are not an accurate proxy for verufication speed
113 2013-11-20 01:04:32 <gmaxwell> super3: and blockcount is not an accurate proxy for verification work, and peers can just lie.
114 2013-11-20 01:05:13 <super3> gmaxwell, fair enough. my real goal is a little outside the qt client. I was just trying to see how the qt does it.
115 2013-11-20 01:05:29 <Jason> /1/3
116 2013-11-20 01:05:51 roconnor has joined
117 2013-11-20 01:06:10 richcollins has joined
118 2013-11-20 01:06:54 <super3> gmaxwell, looking at creating better rpc tools. have to sync my bitcoind for a testing node and using ssh only, so i was thinking of making a simple script to see the percentage of blocks downloaded
119 2013-11-20 01:07:20 <super3> probably going to use https://blockexplorer.com/q/getblockcount, but wanted to see if there was a way i could do it without relying on a service
120 2013-11-20 01:07:32 <super3> well an "easy" way
121 2013-11-20 01:08:11 <super3> but thanks for the insight
122 2013-11-20 01:09:10 pecket has joined
123 2013-11-20 01:09:25 bbrian has joined
124 2013-11-20 01:10:15 <imton> how could i debug why my test net client is not receiving any tx?
125 2013-11-20 01:10:56 one_zero has joined
126 2013-11-20 01:12:15 johnsoft has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
127 2013-11-20 01:12:25 twiceaday has joined
128 2013-11-20 01:12:49 johnsoft has joined
129 2013-11-20 01:13:00 Antonov__ has joined
130 2013-11-20 01:14:34 Antonov__ has quit (Client Quit)
131 2013-11-20 01:15:09 Arnavion has joined
132 2013-11-20 01:17:51 bbrian has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
133 2013-11-20 01:19:26 BGL has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
134 2013-11-20 01:20:13 torsthaldo_ has joined
135 2013-11-20 01:20:56 torsthaldo has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
136 2013-11-20 01:21:19 tri0nzzzzz has joined
137 2013-11-20 01:22:16 richcollins has quit (Quit: richcollins)
138 2013-11-20 01:22:32 gruvfunk has joined
139 2013-11-20 01:23:15 tri0nz has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
140 2013-11-20 01:23:22 Starduster has joined
141 2013-11-20 01:26:46 McKay has quit (Quit: Leaving)
142 2013-11-20 01:27:04 McKay has joined
143 2013-11-20 01:27:48 eristisk has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
144 2013-11-20 01:27:52 c0rw1n has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
145 2013-11-20 01:28:20 bbrian has joined
146 2013-11-20 01:33:32 bbrian has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
147 2013-11-20 01:35:13 kinglet has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
148 2013-11-20 01:36:17 kinglet has joined
149 2013-11-20 01:36:21 kinglet has quit (Changing host)
150 2013-11-20 01:36:21 kinglet has joined
151 2013-11-20 01:37:36 AndyOfiesh has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
152 2013-11-20 01:38:59 richcollins has joined
153 2013-11-20 01:39:27 archd has joined
154 2013-11-20 01:40:14 grubles has quit (Quit: Leaving)
155 2013-11-20 01:40:38 jakov_ has quit (Quit: Leaving)
156 2013-11-20 01:40:44 kinglet has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
157 2013-11-20 01:41:01 richcollins has quit (Client Quit)
158 2013-11-20 01:41:29 eristisk has joined
159 2013-11-20 01:42:36 glassresistor has quit (Quit: Lost terminal)
160 2013-11-20 01:43:14 cryptic has joined
161 2013-11-20 01:43:17 <cryptic> oh thank god
162 2013-11-20 01:43:59 <cryptic> it seems like bitcoin is a generalization of paxos
163 2013-11-20 01:45:01 yubrew has quit ()
164 2013-11-20 01:45:45 <sipa> hmm, not really
165 2013-11-20 01:46:00 <sipa> butcoin does not have a globally consistent state
166 2013-11-20 01:46:06 <sipa> *bitcoin
167 2013-11-20 01:46:42 <cryptic> that's why I said a generalization
168 2013-11-20 01:47:10 go1111111 has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
169 2013-11-20 01:47:24 zcopley has joined
170 2013-11-20 01:47:39 Ashaman_ has joined
171 2013-11-20 01:47:47 zcopley is now known as Guest94527
172 2013-11-20 01:48:13 Guest94527 is now known as zcopley
173 2013-11-20 01:48:37 archd has quit (Quit: archd)
174 2013-11-20 01:48:37 apurplehorse has quit ()
175 2013-11-20 01:48:52 Ashaman has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
176 2013-11-20 01:48:54 kinglet has joined
177 2013-11-20 01:48:54 kinglet has quit (Changing host)
178 2013-11-20 01:48:54 kinglet has joined
179 2013-11-20 01:49:17 c0rw1n has joined
180 2013-11-20 01:52:56 robocoin_ has joined
181 2013-11-20 01:53:11 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
182 2013-11-20 01:53:55 Starduster is now known as SD_
183 2013-11-20 01:56:15 robocoin has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
184 2013-11-20 01:56:21 mrkent has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
185 2013-11-20 01:56:39 gwollon has joined
186 2013-11-20 01:56:54 patcon has joined
187 2013-11-20 02:00:10 dparrish has joined
188 2013-11-20 02:00:16 robocoin_ is now known as robocoin
189 2013-11-20 02:00:57 Belxjander has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
190 2013-11-20 02:03:36 gwollon has quit (Quit: leaving)
191 2013-11-20 02:03:51 swords has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
192 2013-11-20 02:04:31 dvide has quit ()
193 2013-11-20 02:06:36 tsche has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
194 2013-11-20 02:07:31 msvb-lab has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
195 2013-11-20 02:09:31 Belxjander has joined
196 2013-11-20 02:10:39 tsche has joined
197 2013-11-20 02:12:15 tri0nzzzzz has quit ()
198 2013-11-20 02:13:36 skez has joined
199 2013-11-20 02:13:37 pataroose has joined
200 2013-11-20 02:13:39 BGL has joined
201 2013-11-20 02:14:56 AtashiCon has joined
202 2013-11-20 02:14:59 Arnavion has quit (Quit: Arnavion)
203 2013-11-20 02:15:28 Arnavion has joined
204 2013-11-20 02:15:28 eristisk has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
205 2013-11-20 02:18:44 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
206 2013-11-20 02:18:50 Neozonz has joined
207 2013-11-20 02:18:50 Gnaf has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
208 2013-11-20 02:19:15 Gnaf has joined
209 2013-11-20 02:19:45 roconnor_ has joined
210 2013-11-20 02:19:54 brson has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
211 2013-11-20 02:21:13 patcon has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
212 2013-11-20 02:21:28 brson has joined
213 2013-11-20 02:21:45 patcon_ has joined
214 2013-11-20 02:21:45 HaltingState has joined
215 2013-11-20 02:21:49 zeddan81 has quit (Quit: Lämnar)
216 2013-11-20 02:22:09 JontyX has quit ()
217 2013-11-20 02:23:08 darkee has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
218 2013-11-20 02:25:23 msvb-lab has joined
219 2013-11-20 02:25:36 dparrish has joined
220 2013-11-20 02:25:46 copumpkin is now known as samwell
221 2013-11-20 02:25:50 samwell is now known as copumpkin
222 2013-11-20 02:26:25 JZavala has joined
223 2013-11-20 02:26:54 CheckDavid has quit (Quit: Leaving)
224 2013-11-20 02:27:17 AtashiCon has quit (Quit: AtashiCon)
225 2013-11-20 02:27:57 AtashiCon has joined
226 2013-11-20 02:28:56 eristisk has joined
227 2013-11-20 02:33:14 Zarutian has joined
228 2013-11-20 02:33:26 swords has joined
229 2013-11-20 02:33:29 richcollins has joined
230 2013-11-20 02:36:01 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
231 2013-11-20 02:36:08 eristisk has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
232 2013-11-20 02:36:15 dparrish has joined
233 2013-11-20 02:36:16 AndyOfiesh has joined
234 2013-11-20 02:36:22 dparrish has quit (Changing host)
235 2013-11-20 02:36:22 dparrish has joined
236 2013-11-20 02:38:50 darkee has joined
237 2013-11-20 02:40:16 swords has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
238 2013-11-20 02:40:17 Wild_Bill has quit (Quit: We be chillin - IceChat style)
239 2013-11-20 02:47:13 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
240 2013-11-20 02:48:39 patcon_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
241 2013-11-20 02:48:45 patcon has joined
242 2013-11-20 02:49:10 eristisk has joined
243 2013-11-20 02:49:34 msvb-lab has quit (Quit: msvb-lab)
244 2013-11-20 02:54:23 dparrish has joined
245 2013-11-20 02:54:24 porquilho has quit ()
246 2013-11-20 02:55:19 c0rw1n has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
247 2013-11-20 02:55:46 xiangfu has joined
248 2013-11-20 02:57:06 mintyFresh has joined
249 2013-11-20 02:57:30 mintyFresh is now known as Guest11542
250 2013-11-20 02:57:51 Guest11542 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
251 2013-11-20 02:58:14 mintmoney has joined
252 2013-11-20 02:59:06 mintmoney has quit (Client Quit)
253 2013-11-20 03:00:43 archd has joined
254 2013-11-20 03:00:58 cheguvera has joined
255 2013-11-20 03:02:06 torsthaldo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
256 2013-11-20 03:05:13 Emcy_ has quit (Quit: Leaving)
257 2013-11-20 03:05:28 eristisk has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
258 2013-11-20 03:06:16 Emcy has joined
259 2013-11-20 03:06:22 Emcy has quit (Changing host)
260 2013-11-20 03:06:22 Emcy has joined
261 2013-11-20 03:11:22 Bwild_ has quit (Quit: leaving)
262 2013-11-20 03:13:52 Bwild has joined
263 2013-11-20 03:15:07 swords has joined
264 2013-11-20 03:18:24 eristisk has joined
265 2013-11-20 03:18:27 johnsoft has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
266 2013-11-20 03:19:14 johnsoft has joined
267 2013-11-20 03:19:43 zcopley has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
268 2013-11-20 03:19:49 mintmoney has joined
269 2013-11-20 03:20:03 c0rw1n has joined
270 2013-11-20 03:20:46 mintmoney has quit (Client Quit)
271 2013-11-20 03:22:41 thelorax123 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
272 2013-11-20 03:24:01 thelorax123 has joined
273 2013-11-20 03:24:44 Raziel has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
274 2013-11-20 03:25:11 xiangfu has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
275 2013-11-20 03:26:34 ToryJujube has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
276 2013-11-20 03:27:48 agricocb has joined
277 2013-11-20 03:28:18 patcon has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
278 2013-11-20 03:28:49 brson has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
279 2013-11-20 03:28:58 agnostic_ has joined
280 2013-11-20 03:28:59 ArtDavis has joined
281 2013-11-20 03:29:36 wavelet has joined
282 2013-11-20 03:29:36 erans_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
283 2013-11-20 03:30:01 agnostic98 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
284 2013-11-20 03:33:44 richcollins has quit (Quit: richcollins)
285 2013-11-20 03:36:51 [\\\] has joined
286 2013-11-20 03:40:52 apurplehorse has joined
287 2013-11-20 03:41:36 debiantoruser has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
288 2013-11-20 03:43:09 debiantoruser has joined
289 2013-11-20 03:43:30 wallet43 has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
290 2013-11-20 03:44:49 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
291 2013-11-20 03:45:08 Subo1977 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
292 2013-11-20 03:47:21 tsche has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
293 2013-11-20 03:51:53 dparrish has joined
294 2013-11-20 03:52:06 melvster1 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
295 2013-11-20 03:55:14 XRayKat has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
296 2013-11-20 03:55:15 XRayKat1 has joined
297 2013-11-20 03:57:15 <Ryan52> warren: took home an iMac today :)
298 2013-11-20 03:59:08 justusranvier has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
299 2013-11-20 04:03:00 eristisk has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
300 2013-11-20 04:03:43 Urushiol-zZzz is now known as Urushiol
301 2013-11-20 04:04:52 eristisk has joined
302 2013-11-20 04:09:31 AndyOfiesh has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
303 2013-11-20 04:10:27 Tabaza has joined
304 2013-11-20 04:11:36 Application has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
305 2013-11-20 04:11:45 cluelessperson has joined
306 2013-11-20 04:12:34 TheSeven has quit (Disconnected by services)
307 2013-11-20 04:12:39 justusranvier has joined
308 2013-11-20 04:12:46 [7] has joined
309 2013-11-20 04:13:44 Ashaman_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
310 2013-11-20 04:14:06 <warren> Ryan52: it's possible the time machine guess was wrong
311 2013-11-20 04:16:17 Tabaza has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
312 2013-11-20 04:16:52 archd has quit (Quit: archd)
313 2013-11-20 04:17:44 ArtDavis has quit ()
314 2013-11-20 04:18:12 cheguvera has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
315 2013-11-20 04:20:37 Bituser123 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
316 2013-11-20 04:22:04 Bituser123 has joined
317 2013-11-20 04:23:16 nadio has joined
318 2013-11-20 04:23:19 Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian)
319 2013-11-20 04:25:58 saulimus has quit (Quit: saulimus)
320 2013-11-20 04:29:11 cald has joined
321 2013-11-20 04:30:17 Application has joined
322 2013-11-20 04:30:44 cald has quit (K-Lined)
323 2013-11-20 04:31:03 <nadio> Hello could anyone here help me with bitcoind ?
324 2013-11-20 04:31:16 Tabaza has joined
325 2013-11-20 04:31:17 <nadio> I am trying to get account address with getaccount
326 2013-11-20 04:31:30 Tabaza has quit (Changing host)
327 2013-11-20 04:31:30 Tabaza has joined
328 2013-11-20 04:31:39 <Tabaza> اÙ
329 2013-11-20 04:31:42 <Tabaza> hi
330 2013-11-20 04:31:56 freewil has joined
331 2013-11-20 04:32:25 saulimus has joined
332 2013-11-20 04:34:35 Coincide_ has joined
333 2013-11-20 04:34:49 richcollins has joined
334 2013-11-20 04:35:37 toffoo has joined
335 2013-11-20 04:36:56 Coincidental has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
336 2013-11-20 04:38:12 eqwol has joined
337 2013-11-20 04:40:42 xiangfu has joined
338 2013-11-20 04:41:46 torsthaldo has joined
339 2013-11-20 04:41:54 andytoshi has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1)
340 2013-11-20 04:42:10 sacrelege has joined
341 2013-11-20 04:44:01 qbasicer has quit (Read error: No route to host)
342 2013-11-20 04:44:31 johnsoft has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
343 2013-11-20 04:45:07 johnsoft has joined
344 2013-11-20 04:46:26 qbasicer has joined
345 2013-11-20 04:47:30 <Tabaza> any developers for bitcoins around?
346 2013-11-20 04:47:47 <Tabaza> i need to hire some professionals for certain projects
347 2013-11-20 04:47:52 zcopley has joined
348 2013-11-20 04:48:16 zcopley is now known as Guest37145
349 2013-11-20 04:48:38 Guest37145 is now known as zcopley
350 2013-11-20 04:48:49 debiantoruser has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
351 2013-11-20 04:49:08 zcopley is now known as Guest47234
352 2013-11-20 04:49:40 thelorax123 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
353 2013-11-20 04:50:55 debiantoruser has joined
354 2013-11-20 04:50:57 thelorax123 has joined
355 2013-11-20 04:52:32 andytoshi has joined
356 2013-11-20 04:54:27 beethoven8201 has joined
357 2013-11-20 04:54:34 <beethoven8201> MagicalTux: did you roll back trades?
358 2013-11-20 04:55:04 enquirer13 has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)
359 2013-11-20 04:55:22 enquirer13 has joined
360 2013-11-20 04:56:34 enquirer13 has quit (Client Quit)
361 2013-11-20 04:56:50 enquirer13 has joined
362 2013-11-20 04:56:50 dust-otc has joined
363 2013-11-20 04:58:07 Guest47234 is now known as zcopley
364 2013-11-20 04:58:32 enquirer13 has quit (Client Quit)
365 2013-11-20 04:59:14 melvster has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
366 2013-11-20 05:00:54 enquirer has joined
367 2013-11-20 05:01:53 Coincide_ is now known as Coincidental
368 2013-11-20 05:03:00 beethoven8201 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
369 2013-11-20 05:03:24 beethoven8201 has joined
370 2013-11-20 05:05:43 apurplehorse has quit ()
371 2013-11-20 05:05:47 zacm has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
372 2013-11-20 05:06:24 imton has quit (Quit: imton)
373 2013-11-20 05:07:22 Tabaza has quit ()
374 2013-11-20 05:07:23 jMyles has joined
375 2013-11-20 05:09:04 zacm has joined
376 2013-11-20 05:10:05 Coincidental has quit ()
377 2013-11-20 05:10:24 Coincidental has joined
378 2013-11-20 05:10:47 macboz has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
379 2013-11-20 05:12:11 jeewee has joined
380 2013-11-20 05:15:33 i2pRelay has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
381 2013-11-20 05:16:09 eqwol has quit ()
382 2013-11-20 05:17:01 macboz has joined
383 2013-11-20 05:18:06 Polyatomic has joined
384 2013-11-20 05:18:49 swords has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
385 2013-11-20 05:19:43 reneg1 has joined
386 2013-11-20 05:22:00 skinnkavaj has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
387 2013-11-20 05:23:22 i2pRelay has joined
388 2013-11-20 05:24:34 jMyles has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
389 2013-11-20 05:26:29 <phungus> <MagicalTux> very large sell order matching too many buy orders, causing the security system to stop the trade and rollback anything that was caused by it
390 2013-11-20 05:27:32 reneg1 has quit (Quit: reneg1)
391 2013-11-20 05:27:42 swords has joined
392 2013-11-20 05:32:21 xiangfu has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
393 2013-11-20 05:32:31 Alina-malina has quit (Quit: Leaving)
394 2013-11-20 05:36:14 cheguvera has joined
395 2013-11-20 05:36:25 richcollins has quit (Quit: richcollins)
396 2013-11-20 05:39:44 Alina-malina has joined
397 2013-11-20 05:40:37 BenderCoin has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
398 2013-11-20 05:41:01 sacrelege has quit (Quit: Leaving)
399 2013-11-20 05:41:15 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
400 2013-11-20 05:48:35 xiangfu has joined
401 2013-11-20 05:51:33 BenderCoin has joined
402 2013-11-20 05:52:45 reizuki__ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
403 2013-11-20 05:53:05 patar has joined
404 2013-11-20 05:53:30 treaki_ has left ()
405 2013-11-20 05:54:03 patar has quit (Client Quit)
406 2013-11-20 05:54:19 patar has joined
407 2013-11-20 05:54:22 treaki_ has joined
408 2013-11-20 05:54:58 pataroose has quit (Disconnected by services)
409 2013-11-20 05:55:15 treaki_ has quit (Quit: Verlassend)
410 2013-11-20 05:55:16 wavelet has quit (Quit: Leaving)
411 2013-11-20 05:55:30 patar has quit (Client Quit)
412 2013-11-20 05:56:37 reizuki__ has joined
413 2013-11-20 05:56:44 skez has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
414 2013-11-20 05:58:07 roconnor_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
415 2013-11-20 05:58:25 dparrish has joined
416 2013-11-20 06:00:15 skez has joined
417 2013-11-20 06:00:19 zacm has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
418 2013-11-20 06:00:43 zacm has joined
419 2013-11-20 06:01:46 treaki has joined
420 2013-11-20 06:03:22 rawfodog has joined
421 2013-11-20 06:03:23 Wild0wnes has joined
422 2013-11-20 06:04:00 <Wild0wnes> hey i've been out of the loop today... are confirmations for bitcoin slowed down today?
423 2013-11-20 06:04:19 twiceaday has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
424 2013-11-20 06:04:40 <Wild0wnes> blockchain.info is telling me 15 hours estimated confirmation time... and i included .0005 fee
425 2013-11-20 06:04:41 twiceaday has joined
426 2013-11-20 06:06:16 <Wild0wnes> nevermind
427 2013-11-20 06:06:26 <Wild0wnes> guess blockchain is just a bad guesser
428 2013-11-20 06:06:59 Belxjander has quit (Max SendQ exceeded)
429 2013-11-20 06:12:46 rawfodog has quit (Quit: Leaving)
430 2013-11-20 06:13:07 Coincidental has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
431 2013-11-20 06:14:34 jeewee has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
432 2013-11-20 06:16:46 SwampTony has joined
433 2013-11-20 06:16:56 <SomeoneWeird> Wild0wnes, everything is just a guess :)
434 2013-11-20 06:17:17 <Wild0wnes> indeed
435 2013-11-20 06:17:22 <Wild0wnes> thx
436 2013-11-20 06:19:05 <Ryan52> warren: so I've heard. what do we know about SSD versus SATA? (might be a stretch, but I noticed some mention of SSD in the BR)
437 2013-11-20 06:19:14 Belxjander has joined
438 2013-11-20 06:19:27 <Ryan52> I guess SSDs use SATA too.. what do you call a not-SSD?
439 2013-11-20 06:21:56 Coincidental has joined
440 2013-11-20 06:27:14 archd has joined
441 2013-11-20 06:27:17 richcollins has joined
442 2013-11-20 06:27:25 <warren> Ryan52: I think both hard drives and SSD's have the same issue
443 2013-11-20 06:27:49 pecket has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
444 2013-11-20 06:28:35 SwampTony has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
445 2013-11-20 06:29:12 SwampTony has joined
446 2013-11-20 06:29:28 <Ryan52> warren: hm, okay, thanks.. since SSD implementation is so recent, and the fsync details mentioned that is the disks responsibility to handle it at that point, made me wonder, just a though.
447 2013-11-20 06:29:33 <Ryan52> *thought
448 2013-11-20 06:29:47 <Emcy> i think some of those ssds use mPCIe
449 2013-11-20 06:30:44 <warren> that's officially called mSATA I think
450 2013-11-20 06:31:01 <warren> I had a hard time finding an upgrade for my 1.8" SSD drive (they stopped making them)
451 2013-11-20 06:31:02 <Emcy> no theyre different
452 2013-11-20 06:31:06 <warren> oh?
453 2013-11-20 06:31:07 <warren> hm
454 2013-11-20 06:31:24 <Emcy> same socket but the pinout is different
455 2013-11-20 06:31:32 <warren> mSATA is the same pins as mini PCIe but not compatible
456 2013-11-20 06:31:52 <warren> I found an adapter for 1.8" SATA -> mSATA and it worked great for my Thinkpad T410s
457 2013-11-20 06:32:32 TheLordOfTime has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
458 2013-11-20 06:33:37 SwampTony has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
459 2013-11-20 06:35:18 <Emcy> or they might be using the new intel socket now
460 2013-11-20 06:35:22 <Emcy> NGE or something
461 2013-11-20 06:37:05 patcon has joined
462 2013-11-20 06:37:29 zd has left ()
463 2013-11-20 06:38:50 <warren> so many standards
464 2013-11-20 06:39:08 Jonovono has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
465 2013-11-20 06:39:50 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
466 2013-11-20 06:40:21 jeewee has joined
467 2013-11-20 06:40:41 dlb76 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
468 2013-11-20 06:41:21 go1111111 has joined
469 2013-11-20 06:44:43 archd has quit (Quit: archd)
470 2013-11-20 06:44:52 <Emcy> dont forget half length vs full length cards
471 2013-11-20 06:45:00 <Emcy> and the half length isnt even a standard
472 2013-11-20 06:45:32 <Emcy> and sata 4 is moving to pci bus anyway, like everything else in a pc now
473 2013-11-20 06:45:37 macboz has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
474 2013-11-20 06:46:13 dparrish has joined
475 2013-11-20 06:46:41 <Emcy> pcs certainly seemt o be becmoing less modular
476 2013-11-20 06:47:29 macboz has joined
477 2013-11-20 06:48:53 <Emcy> the northbridge merged into the chip and southbridge is next, gfx is merging too. Its like theyre becoming monolithic socs with the pci bus hanging off it
478 2013-11-20 06:51:52 Gabralkhan has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
479 2013-11-20 06:52:08 Gabralkhan has joined
480 2013-11-20 06:56:25 SwampTony has joined
481 2013-11-20 06:58:18 e0s_ has joined
482 2013-11-20 07:04:42 SwampTony has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
483 2013-11-20 07:05:22 SwampTony has joined
484 2013-11-20 07:09:46 SwampTony has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
485 2013-11-20 07:09:58 c_k has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
486 2013-11-20 07:12:17 debiantoruser has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
487 2013-11-20 07:12:18 c_k has joined
488 2013-11-20 07:12:54 debiantoruser has joined
489 2013-11-20 07:13:18 jeewee has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
490 2013-11-20 07:15:02 xiangfu has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
491 2013-11-20 07:15:18 kinglet has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
492 2013-11-20 07:19:04 deepc0re has joined
493 2013-11-20 07:19:23 RoboTeddy has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
494 2013-11-20 07:22:17 debiantoruser has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
495 2013-11-20 07:23:28 debiantoruser has joined
496 2013-11-20 07:23:46 xiangfu has joined
497 2013-11-20 07:27:01 damethos has joined
498 2013-11-20 07:29:00 damethos_ has joined
499 2013-11-20 07:29:04 damethos_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
500 2013-11-20 07:29:14 debiantoruser has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
501 2013-11-20 07:29:40 deepc0re has quit (Quit: deepc0re)
502 2013-11-20 07:30:11 debiantoruser has joined
503 2013-11-20 07:31:52 damethos has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
504 2013-11-20 07:32:52 SwampTony has joined
505 2013-11-20 07:34:53 jeewee has joined
506 2013-11-20 07:36:26 kinglet has joined
507 2013-11-20 07:38:23 debiantoruser has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
508 2013-11-20 07:39:03 raj_ has joined
509 2013-11-20 07:39:53 debiantoruser has joined
510 2013-11-20 07:42:44 cheguvera has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
511 2013-11-20 07:43:48 clocKwize has joined
512 2013-11-20 07:46:39 torsthaldo has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
513 2013-11-20 07:46:58 richcollins has quit (Quit: richcollins)
514 2013-11-20 07:48:00 ericmuyser has joined
515 2013-11-20 07:48:32 xiangfu has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
516 2013-11-20 07:49:33 xiangfu has joined
517 2013-11-20 07:51:10 raj_ has quit (Quit: Leaving)
518 2013-11-20 07:55:47 xiangfu has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
519 2013-11-20 07:56:40 home_jg is now known as jgarzik
520 2013-11-20 07:56:50 <jgarzik> word
521 2013-11-20 07:59:56 <Luke-Jr> hey jgarzik
522 2013-11-20 08:00:11 Kozuch has joined
523 2013-11-20 08:01:02 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
524 2013-11-20 08:06:17 fanquake has joined
525 2013-11-20 08:08:05 dparrish has joined
526 2013-11-20 08:11:54 damethos has joined
527 2013-11-20 08:13:33 <Belxjander> herya jgarzik && Luke-Jr
528 2013-11-20 08:14:09 bit76794 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
529 2013-11-20 08:16:56 da2ce7 has joined
530 2013-11-20 08:18:45 reneg1 has joined
531 2013-11-20 08:20:10 dust-otc has quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ¦)
532 2013-11-20 08:21:18 pooler has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
533 2013-11-20 08:22:23 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
534 2013-11-20 08:22:49 johnsoft has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
535 2013-11-20 08:23:08 johnsoft has joined
536 2013-11-20 08:23:41 da2ce7 has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
537 2013-11-20 08:24:23 da2ce7 has joined
538 2013-11-20 08:25:18 RoboTeddy has joined
539 2013-11-20 08:25:52 Guest69245 has left ()
540 2013-11-20 08:26:53 _ingsoc has joined
541 2013-11-20 08:27:17 pooler has joined
542 2013-11-20 08:27:40 patcon has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
543 2013-11-20 08:27:49 Scrat has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
544 2013-11-20 08:28:07 patcon has joined
545 2013-11-20 08:28:08 da2ce7 has quit (Client Quit)
546 2013-11-20 08:28:59 Ferroh_ has joined
547 2013-11-20 08:29:46 RoboTeddy has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
548 2013-11-20 08:30:05 dparrish has joined
549 2013-11-20 08:30:15 ovidiusoft has joined
550 2013-11-20 08:32:19 Ferroh has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
551 2013-11-20 08:32:21 tiyoT has joined
552 2013-11-20 08:32:26 <tiyoT> hi
553 2013-11-20 08:32:29 patcon has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
554 2013-11-20 08:32:34 <tiyoT> quick question, its been almost an hour, but my btc transaction still UNconfirmed, my other smaller transaction got confirmed already.
555 2013-11-20 08:33:41 <Luke-Jr> tiyoT: if you care about confirmation time, pay a fee
556 2013-11-20 08:34:14 SwampTony has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
557 2013-11-20 08:34:30 da2ce7 has joined
558 2013-11-20 08:34:52 <tiyoT> Luke-Jr: lets use this chan, does bigger btc has slower confirmation rate? my 0.1 already got 4confirmation, my 43 btc is unconfirmed
559 2013-11-20 08:35:12 <tiyoT> Luke-Jr: thanks for the BPM (redfury) support on 3.6.0 btw :)
560 2013-11-20 08:35:14 <Luke-Jr> tiyoT: bigger data size, not value
561 2013-11-20 08:35:52 <Luke-Jr> also, age of coins is another factor
562 2013-11-20 08:35:57 roconnor has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
563 2013-11-20 08:35:59 <Luke-Jr> but in your case probably data size is the main one
564 2013-11-20 08:36:01 <tiyoT> Luke-Jr: thats what i mean, bigger data size.
565 2013-11-20 08:36:05 e0s_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
566 2013-11-20 08:36:05 eoss has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
567 2013-11-20 08:36:13 <tiyoT> age coins, old coin faster/slower?
568 2013-11-20 08:36:17 <Luke-Jr> tiyoT: if you spend 43 BTC often, you'll want to have people pay you volumes similar
569 2013-11-20 08:36:25 <Luke-Jr> old coin is higher priority
570 2013-11-20 08:36:32 <Luke-Jr> new coin is "probably spam"
571 2013-11-20 08:36:37 abrkn has joined
572 2013-11-20 08:36:56 <tiyoT> how to initiate tx fee btw? sometimes when i use my bitcoinQT, they ask me if i want to pay for the fee (pop-up window) but most of the time they dont.
573 2013-11-20 08:37:08 asdf6789 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
574 2013-11-20 08:37:32 <Luke-Jr> Settings menu, Optins
575 2013-11-20 08:39:25 <tiyoT> im using bitcoinQT for mac, i have to set my own tx fee
576 2013-11-20 08:39:29 i2pRelay has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
577 2013-11-20 08:39:46 <tiyoT> it says most transaction is 1 kB. and im asked to enter the amount. "Pay transaction fee"
578 2013-11-20 08:39:50 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
579 2013-11-20 08:40:03 <tiyoT> how to determine the tx fee ?
580 2013-11-20 08:40:12 coius has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
581 2013-11-20 08:41:42 <tiyoT> Luke-Jr: Size 801 (bytes)
582 2013-11-20 08:41:58 <tiyoT> Luke-Jr: Estimated Confirmation Time 17 hours (queue position 3270)
583 2013-11-20 08:42:20 <Luke-Jr> tiyoT: bc.i is full of crap
584 2013-11-20 08:42:25 coius has joined
585 2013-11-20 08:42:46 <tiyoT> what should i use?
586 2013-11-20 08:43:59 <Luke-Jr> depends on how important fast confirmation is
587 2013-11-20 08:44:07 <Luke-Jr> try increments of 0.0001 BTC until you're happy
588 2013-11-20 08:45:13 wei__ has joined
589 2013-11-20 08:45:53 btcbtc has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
590 2013-11-20 08:46:12 djcoin has joined
591 2013-11-20 08:46:35 btcbtc has joined
592 2013-11-20 08:47:43 asdf6789 has joined
593 2013-11-20 08:49:54 canoon has joined
594 2013-11-20 08:53:04 dparrish has joined
595 2013-11-20 08:55:56 <Ryan52> warren: whault mentions it happens only on his SSD. also possibly related to system sleep. that was a direction I was about to take in my considering of SSD issues, what if somehow there is a bug within them such that fsync has pushed changes they are now responsible for but do not properly handle when power issues change.
596 2013-11-20 08:57:03 <Ryan52> warren: I also considered sleep-related issues, because one user reported that it happened when "switching internet locations" while another reported not doing so. Perhaps this provides a clue as to it being related to sleep functionality, which also makes me wonder if I should have gotten a laptop for my testing :P.
597 2013-11-20 08:58:40 patcon has joined
598 2013-11-20 09:03:30 Scrat has joined
599 2013-11-20 09:04:10 <gjs278> confirmation fees are retarded
600 2013-11-20 09:04:31 <gjs278> don't bother paying them, just let it happen slower
601 2013-11-20 09:06:53 patcon has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
602 2013-11-20 09:07:58 t7 has joined
603 2013-11-20 09:10:47 <gavinandresen> tiyoT: 0.0005 is about the right fee-per-kilobyte number right now if you want your transaction to be confirmed quickly.
604 2013-11-20 09:12:58 phrackage has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
605 2013-11-20 09:17:07 skinnkavaj has joined
606 2013-11-20 09:17:07 skinnkavaj has quit (Changing host)
607 2013-11-20 09:17:07 skinnkavaj has joined
608 2013-11-20 09:19:39 phrackage has joined
609 2013-11-20 09:23:09 W0rmDr1nk has joined
610 2013-11-20 09:23:58 graingert has joined
611 2013-11-20 09:24:22 <graingert> BlueMatt: good suggestions but a little too late.
612 2013-11-20 09:24:42 <graingert> It's on the site now. At least it doesn't say "Each (bitcoin has) a unique online registration number"
613 2013-11-20 09:24:54 <graingert> and these numbers are generated by mining puzles
614 2013-11-20 09:25:18 <graingert> BlueMatt: very good point about A/the Bitcoin client
615 2013-11-20 09:26:17 <warren> Ryan52: there could have been multiple corruption causes. things were patched 3 times for this.
616 2013-11-20 09:26:28 <warren> Ryan52: early reports were all over the place in behavior.
617 2013-11-20 09:26:41 <warren> Ryan52: you need to test with bitcoin 0.8.5 OMG3
618 2013-11-20 09:30:32 Coincidental has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
619 2013-11-20 09:31:09 Coincidental has joined
620 2013-11-20 09:33:23 lordbunson has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
621 2013-11-20 09:33:32 lordbunson has joined
622 2013-11-20 09:33:40 thelorax123 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
623 2013-11-20 09:34:42 dparrish has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
624 2013-11-20 09:34:53 thelorax123 has joined
625 2013-11-20 09:35:16 dparrish has joined
626 2013-11-20 09:35:38 Coincidental has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
627 2013-11-20 09:36:19 shesek has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
628 2013-11-20 09:36:34 SD_ is now known as Starduster
629 2013-11-20 09:39:06 shesek has joined
630 2013-11-20 09:40:50 Belxjander has quit (Quit: Sayonara)
631 2013-11-20 09:41:05 <Ryan52> warren: willdo, thanks.
632 2013-11-20 09:41:21 ircuser-6 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
633 2013-11-20 09:41:29 shesek has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
634 2013-11-20 09:44:57 nOgAnOo has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
635 2013-11-20 09:45:26 Belxjander has joined
636 2013-11-20 09:49:01 <warren> class CTxOut
637 2013-11-20 09:49:01 <warren> {
638 2013-11-20 09:49:02 <warren> public:
639 2013-11-20 09:49:02 <warren> int64_t nValue;
640 2013-11-20 09:49:02 <warren> CScript scriptPubKey;
641 2013-11-20 09:49:39 <warren> I'm in a method within a scriptPubkey.... there's no way to reach this nValue variable without explicitly passing it right?
642 2013-11-20 09:49:43 Eiii has quit ()
643 2013-11-20 09:49:59 neep3r has joined
644 2013-11-20 09:51:23 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
645 2013-11-20 09:52:16 <Luke-Jr> of course
646 2013-11-20 09:52:39 Guyver2 has joined
647 2013-11-20 09:53:18 macboz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
648 2013-11-20 09:54:11 macboz has joined
649 2013-11-20 09:58:06 melvster has joined
650 2013-11-20 09:58:09 dparrish has joined
651 2013-11-20 09:59:09 shesek has joined
652 2013-11-20 10:00:01 shesek has quit (Max SendQ exceeded)
653 2013-11-20 10:00:03 macboz has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
654 2013-11-20 10:00:29 shesek has joined
655 2013-11-20 10:00:44 btcbtc has quit (Quit: btcbtc)
656 2013-11-20 10:00:57 ivan\ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
657 2013-11-20 10:02:57 ivan\ has joined
658 2013-11-20 10:04:03 go1111111 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
659 2013-11-20 10:04:33 mapppum has joined
660 2013-11-20 10:04:39 _ingsoc has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
661 2013-11-20 10:04:51 <warren> I'm experimenting with dust expiration from the UTXO set.
662 2013-11-20 10:05:16 mappum has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
663 2013-11-20 10:05:33 Nesetalis has joined
664 2013-11-20 10:06:50 _ingsoc has joined
665 2013-11-20 10:07:27 shesek has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
666 2013-11-20 10:07:39 pizzaman has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net)
667 2013-11-20 10:07:49 [Author] has joined
668 2013-11-20 10:08:08 SwampTony has joined
669 2013-11-20 10:09:56 toffoo has quit ()
670 2013-11-20 10:12:55 mapppum has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
671 2013-11-20 10:13:45 neep3r has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
672 2013-11-20 10:15:33 Subo1977 has joined
673 2013-11-20 10:16:48 agnostic_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
674 2013-11-20 10:17:41 thelorax123 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
675 2013-11-20 10:18:43 thelorax123 has joined
676 2013-11-20 10:20:13 cyphase has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
677 2013-11-20 10:22:57 Uglux has joined
678 2013-11-20 10:25:23 cyphase has joined
679 2013-11-20 10:25:23 W0rmDr1nk has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
680 2013-11-20 10:28:35 ircuser-6 has joined
681 2013-11-20 10:28:59 zeddan81 has joined
682 2013-11-20 10:30:04 <warren> It turns out you can cause bitcoind to segfault if you do gettxoutsetinfo at the wrong moment.
683 2013-11-20 10:33:51 xiangfu has joined
684 2013-11-20 10:34:41 <wumpus> warren: backtrace?
685 2013-11-20 10:35:05 Belxjander has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
686 2013-11-20 10:36:03 <warren> wumpus: i'll do it later with master first
687 2013-11-20 10:36:08 <warren> falling asleep
688 2013-11-20 10:37:04 tri0nz has joined
689 2013-11-20 10:38:20 msvb-lab has joined
690 2013-11-20 10:39:46 Gabralkhan has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
691 2013-11-20 10:42:57 rodarmor has joined
692 2013-11-20 10:43:09 Gabralkhan has joined
693 2013-11-20 10:44:37 neep3r has joined
694 2013-11-20 10:49:07 neep3r has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
695 2013-11-20 10:49:41 Polyatomic has quit (Quit: Leaving)
696 2013-11-20 10:50:37 Gabralkhan has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
697 2013-11-20 10:56:27 Gabralkhan has joined
698 2013-11-20 11:00:47 reizuki__ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
699 2013-11-20 11:04:00 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
700 2013-11-20 11:09:25 xiangfu has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
701 2013-11-20 11:10:04 xiangfu has joined
702 2013-11-20 11:10:50 dparrish has joined
703 2013-11-20 11:11:13 bit76794 has joined
704 2013-11-20 11:11:49 Muis_ has joined
705 2013-11-20 11:12:49 Muis has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
706 2013-11-20 11:14:46 neep3r has joined
707 2013-11-20 11:18:21 Subo1977_ has joined
708 2013-11-20 11:18:29 Subo1977 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
709 2013-11-20 11:18:30 TD has joined
710 2013-11-20 11:19:47 neep3r has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
711 2013-11-20 11:20:38 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
712 2013-11-20 11:22:51 erans_ has joined
713 2013-11-20 11:27:49 dparrish has joined
714 2013-11-20 11:29:16 melvster has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
715 2013-11-20 11:30:11 Namworld has quit ()
716 2013-11-20 11:31:49 Coincidental has joined
717 2013-11-20 11:34:40 SwampTony has quit ()
718 2013-11-20 11:34:57 czheo has joined
719 2013-11-20 11:36:07 Coincidental has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
720 2013-11-20 11:36:18 wei__ has quit (Quit: wei__)
721 2013-11-20 11:37:04 AndrewJackson has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
722 2013-11-20 11:37:12 shesek has joined
723 2013-11-20 11:37:37 AndrewJackson has joined
724 2013-11-20 11:38:35 wei__ has joined
725 2013-11-20 11:39:54 Muis_ is now known as Muis
726 2013-11-20 11:43:35 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
727 2013-11-20 11:46:30 mappum has joined
728 2013-11-20 11:47:27 _ingsoc has quit (Quit: leaving)
729 2013-11-20 11:49:11 xiangfu has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
730 2013-11-20 11:49:51 drayah has joined
731 2013-11-20 11:50:09 dparrish has joined
732 2013-11-20 11:50:50 TD has quit (Quit: TD)
733 2013-11-20 11:51:44 nOgAnOo has joined
734 2013-11-20 11:52:32 Raziel has joined
735 2013-11-20 11:52:49 daybyter has joined
736 2013-11-20 11:53:58 cyphase has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
737 2013-11-20 11:54:18 PiZZaMaN2K has quit (away!~PiZZaMaN2@unaffiliated/pizzaman2k|Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com)
738 2013-11-20 11:56:39 cyphase has joined
739 2013-11-20 11:58:11 handle has joined
740 2013-11-20 11:58:59 dparrish has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
741 2013-11-20 12:00:13 porquilho has joined
742 2013-11-20 12:05:27 dparrish has joined
743 2013-11-20 12:09:57 mE\Ta has joined
744 2013-11-20 12:14:29 melvster has joined
745 2013-11-20 12:15:27 neep3r has joined
746 2013-11-20 12:15:49 abrkn has quit ()
747 2013-11-20 12:18:32 owowo has joined
748 2013-11-20 12:20:13 neep3r has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
749 2013-11-20 12:22:34 Thepok has joined
750 2013-11-20 12:25:28 licnep has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
751 2013-11-20 12:25:48 rodarmor has quit (Quit: rodarmor)
752 2013-11-20 12:26:34 one_zero has quit ()
753 2013-11-20 12:26:50 Uglux has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
754 2013-11-20 12:28:28 JontyX has joined
755 2013-11-20 12:30:56 rodarmor has joined
756 2013-11-20 12:32:22 btcbtc has joined
757 2013-11-20 12:32:58 phrackage has quit (Quit: phrackage)
758 2013-11-20 12:33:45 Kozuch has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
759 2013-11-20 12:37:34 btcbtc has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
760 2013-11-20 12:37:45 rodarmor has left ()
761 2013-11-20 12:38:14 dlb76 has joined
762 2013-11-20 12:39:17 SwampTony has joined
763 2013-11-20 12:40:29 xiangfu has joined
764 2013-11-20 12:41:33 Belxjander has joined
765 2013-11-20 12:41:55 Nesetalis has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
766 2013-11-20 12:42:18 licnep has joined
767 2013-11-20 12:43:40 Guyver2 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
768 2013-11-20 12:52:02 TD has joined
769 2013-11-20 12:55:54 andytoshi has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1)
770 2013-11-20 12:58:47 Belxjander has quit (Quit: Sayonara)
771 2013-11-20 12:58:51 imton has joined
772 2013-11-20 12:59:39 _ingsoc has joined
773 2013-11-20 13:01:04 zveda has joined
774 2013-11-20 13:01:16 <zveda> why is this transaction moving backwards in the queue? https://blockchain.info/tx/02984590d25f6eb79938119329e8dbb0596428c76f936ce99dbc17845491ab2d
775 2013-11-20 13:01:29 <tiyoT> gavinandresen: thanks for the suggestion, mind sharing the best way to calc the efficient tx fee?
776 2013-11-20 13:02:04 <lianj> zveda: backwards? its in a block now.
777 2013-11-20 13:02:32 <zveda> lianj: oh wow just as you said
778 2013-11-20 13:02:39 <zveda> it was waiting for several hours
779 2013-11-20 13:02:42 abrkn has joined
780 2013-11-20 13:02:46 <TD> gavinandresen: are you there? do you remember in which release the relay fee was dropped?
781 2013-11-20 13:03:04 <TD> the release notes on bitcoin.org are unhelpful and i can't find a central repository of release notes. i'm sure there is one though
782 2013-11-20 13:08:42 agricocb has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
783 2013-11-20 13:10:10 AndyOfiesh has joined
784 2013-11-20 13:10:21 <lianj> TD: 6de1326ba4a35ab781107a8b56f74affaed87cba
785 2013-11-20 13:10:32 <lianj> commit 6de1326ba4a35ab781107a8b56f74affaed87cba
786 2013-11-20 13:10:36 <lianj> Refs: v0.3.22-19-g6de1326
787 2013-11-20 13:10:53 <Apocalyptic> why was it dropped ?
788 2013-11-20 13:11:31 <TD> oh, wow, that's ancient. i thought the fee was dropped more recently
789 2013-11-20 13:11:49 <TD> hmm
790 2013-11-20 13:11:52 c0rw1n has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
791 2013-11-20 13:12:01 erans_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
792 2013-11-20 13:12:21 c0rw1n has joined
793 2013-11-20 13:15:31 Zarutian has joined
794 2013-11-20 13:16:08 neep3r has joined
795 2013-11-20 13:21:08 AndyOfiesh has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
796 2013-11-20 13:21:15 neep3r has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
797 2013-11-20 13:36:25 TD has quit (Quit: TD)
798 2013-11-20 13:41:53 bitnumus has joined
799 2013-11-20 13:42:45 <bitnumus> two questions, is libboost 1.54 fine for bitcoind, and is BDB5.1 really an issue if the wallet is originally created using it ?
800 2013-11-20 13:43:00 <wumpus> bitnumus: yes, and no
801 2013-11-20 13:43:04 kinglet has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
802 2013-11-20 13:43:09 <bitnumus> thanks
803 2013-11-20 13:43:25 TD has joined
804 2013-11-20 13:44:04 <sipa> BDB5.1 is fine if you don't intend to use the wallet on a BDB <5.1 build
805 2013-11-20 13:44:05 <wumpus> if your wallet was originally created using bdb5.1 you *have* to use bdb5.1 even, there is no backwards compatibility
806 2013-11-20 13:44:29 <wumpus> forwards*
807 2013-11-20 13:44:30 <bitnumus> ok, still trying to get bitcoind running on ARM
808 2013-11-20 13:44:37 <bitnumus> and i've found a debian build in unstable repo
809 2013-11-20 13:44:48 <bitnumus> its asking to install libboost 1.54 and BDB5.1 so i'm just going with it
810 2013-11-20 13:45:01 CheckDavid has joined
811 2013-11-20 13:48:13 moriarty has joined
812 2013-11-20 13:48:55 AusBitBank has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
813 2013-11-20 13:49:00 xiangfu has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
814 2013-11-20 13:49:12 MobGod_ has joined
815 2013-11-20 13:51:45 MobGod has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
816 2013-11-20 13:54:46 MobGod_ has quit (Excess Flood)
817 2013-11-20 13:55:01 _ingsoc has quit (Quit: leaving)
818 2013-11-20 13:55:35 agricocb has joined
819 2013-11-20 13:56:09 jeewee has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
820 2013-11-20 13:57:43 Guyver2 has joined
821 2013-11-20 13:59:50 Belxjander has joined
822 2013-11-20 14:00:59 MobGod has joined
823 2013-11-20 14:05:27 ovidiusoft has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
824 2013-11-20 14:05:48 zveda has left ("Ex-Chat")
825 2013-11-20 14:07:38 djoot_ is now known as djoot
826 2013-11-20 14:08:01 TD has quit (Quit: TD)
827 2013-11-20 14:09:41 kinglet has joined
828 2013-11-20 14:09:52 canoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
829 2013-11-20 14:11:29 <phedny> when I do an importprivkey RPC call, I can set rescan to true or false; however, is it also possible to request a "rescan" for specific txids? in my use case, when I'm importing a private key, I know the txids of all relevant transactions, but the waiting time for a full rescan is too much
830 2013-11-20 14:15:13 johnsoft has quit (Quit: Leaving)
831 2013-11-20 14:15:40 johnsoft has joined
832 2013-11-20 14:15:58 kinglet has left ("Leaving")
833 2013-11-20 14:16:53 neep3r has joined
834 2013-11-20 14:18:27 daybyter has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
835 2013-11-20 14:20:39 ovidiusoft has joined
836 2013-11-20 14:20:47 malaimo_ has quit (Quit: leaving)
837 2013-11-20 14:21:13 malaimo has joined
838 2013-11-20 14:21:19 <wumpus> phedny: no, there is no API for this
839 2013-11-20 14:21:31 Gabralkhan_ has joined
840 2013-11-20 14:22:17 neep3r has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
841 2013-11-20 14:23:46 Gabralkhan has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
842 2013-11-20 14:27:53 Scrat has quit (Quit: .)
843 2013-11-20 14:28:40 Gabralkhan_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
844 2013-11-20 14:32:10 <phedny> wumpus: okay.. and when doing a rescan as part of importprivkey, is only the newly imported key searched for or are all keys in the wallet rescanned?
845 2013-11-20 14:32:28 Elmf has joined
846 2013-11-20 14:34:34 imton has quit (Quit: imton)
847 2013-11-20 14:35:02 SwampTony has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
848 2013-11-20 14:35:35 SwampTony has joined
849 2013-11-20 14:35:56 <wumpus> phedny: for all keys, that's why you can do it after importing a few of them
850 2013-11-20 14:36:38 <phedny> wumpus: okay, nice, that's not ideal, but can work for me in the short term :)
851 2013-11-20 14:36:41 <phedny> thank you!
852 2013-11-20 14:37:42 Urushiol is now known as Urushiol-zZzz
853 2013-11-20 14:38:19 PiZZaMaN2K has joined
854 2013-11-20 14:38:33 yubrew has joined
855 2013-11-20 14:40:55 SwampTony has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
856 2013-11-20 14:45:06 Gabralkhan has joined
857 2013-11-20 14:46:37 rdymac has quit (Excess Flood)
858 2013-11-20 14:47:06 SwampTony has joined
859 2013-11-20 14:49:05 imton has joined
860 2013-11-20 14:49:06 imton has quit (Client Quit)
861 2013-11-20 14:49:42 <clocKwize> hmm, I'm trying to port the sha2 code to another project, I've got it all building but the sha256d I get for "hello world" is "bc62d4b80d9e36da29c16c5d4d9f11731f36052c72401a76c23c0fb5a9b7442300f0a60601000000000000000e00000038081959ff7f00000000000000000000" but if I run that same test against the original source (pooler/cpuminer) I get
862 2013-11-20 14:49:42 <clocKwize> "bc62d4b80d9e36da29c16c5d4d9f11731f36052c72401a76c23c0fb5a9b7442381150608ffffffff96a15cb7f4cf73b725a25cb780f27db70000000069150608" any idae what I've messed up :)
863 2013-11-20 14:49:46 rdymac has joined
864 2013-11-20 14:50:55 patcon has joined
865 2013-11-20 14:51:24 <t7> not clearing the state?
866 2013-11-20 14:51:57 <clocKwize> What state?
867 2013-11-20 14:52:13 rastapopuloto has joined
868 2013-11-20 14:52:56 damethos has quit (Quit: Bye)
869 2013-11-20 14:53:25 <clocKwize> I'm calling sha256d once from each code base, which I believe initializes the state itself as a local variable, so it should be clear each time right?
870 2013-11-20 14:54:13 Gabralkhan has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
871 2013-11-20 14:54:40 Gabralkhan has joined
872 2013-11-20 14:55:13 imton has joined
873 2013-11-20 14:55:13 imton has quit (Client Quit)
874 2013-11-20 14:59:11 andytoshi has joined
875 2013-11-20 14:59:38 <clocKwize> t7, does that make any sense? :)
876 2013-11-20 14:59:49 [\\\] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
877 2013-11-20 15:02:34 _ingsoc has joined
878 2013-11-20 15:03:47 JontyX has quit ()
879 2013-11-20 15:05:31 johnsoft has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
880 2013-11-20 15:05:58 johnsoft has joined
881 2013-11-20 15:08:46 <wumpus> clocKwize: sha256 produces a 256 bit hash, which means 64 hex characters
882 2013-11-20 15:09:03 <wumpus> clocKwize: you're pasting 128, and the first 64 indeed seem to be the same...
883 2013-11-20 15:09:17 <clocKwize> true, its 64 bytes
884 2013-11-20 15:09:45 <clocKwize> which when formatted as 0 padded hex values, its 128 characters
885 2013-11-20 15:09:58 <Diablo-D3> clocKwize: yeah but you actually need those 0s.
886 2013-11-20 15:10:23 <clocKwize> I'm doing this
887 2013-11-20 15:10:24 <clocKwize> https://gist.github.com/brightbits/3c0e112d216e94e97233
888 2013-11-20 15:11:03 wallet43 has joined
889 2013-11-20 15:12:48 <clocKwize> is that not correct?
890 2013-11-20 15:13:14 mappum has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
891 2013-11-20 15:13:39 mappum has joined
892 2013-11-20 15:14:52 bbrian has joined
893 2013-11-20 15:16:56 c0rw1n has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
894 2013-11-20 15:17:42 kinglet has joined
895 2013-11-20 15:17:44 neep3r has joined
896 2013-11-20 15:20:14 damethos has joined
897 2013-11-20 15:20:56 patcon has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
898 2013-11-20 15:21:22 patcon has joined
899 2013-11-20 15:22:47 Urushiol-zZzz is now known as Urushiol
900 2013-11-20 15:23:01 SwampTony has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
901 2013-11-20 15:23:21 neep3r has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
902 2013-11-20 15:23:35 SwampTony has joined
903 2013-11-20 15:25:29 patcon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
904 2013-11-20 15:26:35 <clocKwize> Diablo-D3, wumpus?
905 2013-11-20 15:27:39 <Diablo-D3> clocKwize: wasnt that a radio station or something?
906 2013-11-20 15:27:52 <clocKwize> huh?
907 2013-11-20 15:28:26 <Diablo-D3> the name sounds familiar I cant remember why
908 2013-11-20 15:28:40 SwampTony has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
909 2013-11-20 15:28:46 <clocKwize> My name? Just made it up
910 2013-11-20 15:28:50 <bitnumus> hey, how long should this take > Rescanning last 270615 blocks (from block 0)...
911 2013-11-20 15:28:58 <Diablo-D3> clocKwize: no, wumpus
912 2013-11-20 15:29:00 <clocKwize> oh
913 2013-11-20 15:29:03 <clocKwize> :p
914 2013-11-20 15:31:39 drayah has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
915 2013-11-20 15:31:53 SwampTony has joined
916 2013-11-20 15:32:43 mhanne has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
917 2013-11-20 15:38:43 EasyCompany2020 has joined
918 2013-11-20 15:39:13 czheo has quit ()
919 2013-11-20 15:39:48 <clocKwize> Diablo-D3: the last 32 bytes change on both code bases, is that normal O.o
920 2013-11-20 15:40:10 <EasyCompany2020> Hey
921 2013-11-20 15:40:29 <clocKwize> I'm confused, sha256 is 64 bytes, in the real implementation its returning 32 static bytes, then 32 bytes that differ each run, leaving me confused.
922 2013-11-20 15:41:00 <EasyCompany2020> Does anyone know how to use makefile on windows?
923 2013-11-20 15:41:30 <wumpus> download msys
924 2013-11-20 15:41:49 patcon has joined
925 2013-11-20 15:42:39 [\\\] has joined
926 2013-11-20 15:42:40 <wumpus> (or cygwin, but that's a full unix OS on top of windows, probably overkill)
927 2013-11-20 15:42:47 <sipa> clocKwize: sha256 reads 64 bytes in each block, but has 32 byte output
928 2013-11-20 15:43:03 <clocKwize> sipa that would explain
929 2013-11-20 15:43:20 <wumpus> that's what I said too, but he wouldn't believe it :p
930 2013-11-20 15:43:32 <clocKwize> wumpus: I didn't disbelieve you, I'm just confused
931 2013-11-20 15:43:43 <clocKwize> and you didn't elaborate to any of my questions :)_
932 2013-11-20 15:44:25 <clocKwize> this code: https://gist.github.com/brightbits/b092daac3b766ff92e3e#file-gistfile1-txt-L3 is where I took a sample call to sha256d from, that uses a 64 byte buffer :s
933 2013-11-20 15:45:41 PiZZaMaN2K is now known as PiZZaMaN2K|away
934 2013-11-20 15:46:37 DougieBot5000 has joined
935 2013-11-20 15:47:56 <sipa> clocKwize: well look up the documentation for that function
936 2013-11-20 15:48:01 JontyX has joined
937 2013-11-20 15:48:04 <sipa> there may be more internal state that is kept
938 2013-11-20 15:48:23 <sipa> which may be implementation dependent
939 2013-11-20 15:49:56 tri0nz has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
940 2013-11-20 15:50:38 moriarty has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
941 2013-11-20 15:50:45 <clocKwize> ah, just actually looked at what a merkle root is ;p
942 2013-11-20 15:54:18 W0rmDr1nk has joined
943 2013-11-20 15:59:51 mhanne has joined
944 2013-11-20 16:00:09 wallet43 has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
945 2013-11-20 16:01:01 Anduck has joined
946 2013-11-20 16:01:01 Anduck has quit (Changing host)
947 2013-11-20 16:01:01 Anduck has joined
948 2013-11-20 16:01:49 torsthaldo has joined
949 2013-11-20 16:08:29 Eiii has joined
950 2013-11-20 16:08:29 Eiii has quit (Changing host)
951 2013-11-20 16:08:29 Eiii has joined
952 2013-11-20 16:09:43 drayah has joined
953 2013-11-20 16:13:50 drayah has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
954 2013-11-20 16:14:17 TD has joined
955 2013-11-20 16:15:33 SwampTony has quit ()
956 2013-11-20 16:16:50 <Diablo-D3> [10:37:29] <clocKwize> I'm confused, sha256 is 64 bytes, in the real implementation its returning 32 static bytes, then 32 bytes that differ each run, leaving me confused.
957 2013-11-20 16:16:55 <Diablo-D3> you mean with mining?
958 2013-11-20 16:16:58 <Diablo-D3> thats actually normal
959 2013-11-20 16:17:14 <Diablo-D3> mining exploits the part of the data that doesnt change, too
960 2013-11-20 16:17:40 <Diablo-D3> if you're outside of mining, thats not normal
961 2013-11-20 16:17:49 <Diablo-D3> because every bit of input changes every bit of output
962 2013-11-20 16:17:56 <Diablo-D3> (well, can change)
963 2013-11-20 16:18:04 btcbtc has joined
964 2013-11-20 16:18:13 agnostic98 has joined
965 2013-11-20 16:18:26 neep3r has joined
966 2013-11-20 16:19:33 agnostic98 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
967 2013-11-20 16:19:49 agnostic98 has joined
968 2013-11-20 16:21:15 <clocKwize> Diablo-D3: yes, worked it out now, it was as expected, i should have only been looking at the first 32 bytes, I was confused
969 2013-11-20 16:22:07 <Diablo-D3> I love how mining takes more than one pass to mine
970 2013-11-20 16:22:17 <Diablo-D3> 80 bytes input, 64 bytes at a time
971 2013-11-20 16:22:25 <Diablo-D3> makes mining so fast
972 2013-11-20 16:22:36 <clocKwize> I don't really understand it (yet)
973 2013-11-20 16:22:43 <clocKwize> also, I thought mining was meant to be slow ;p
974 2013-11-20 16:23:10 markus__ has joined
975 2013-11-20 16:23:22 <clocKwize> I'm basically reengineering cpuminer
976 2013-11-20 16:23:25 <clocKwize> to learn
977 2013-11-20 16:23:53 neep3r has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
978 2013-11-20 16:25:03 <clocKwize> should have done this 3 years ago when bitcoins were worthless, now I'd be rich ;p
979 2013-11-20 16:27:18 drayah has joined
980 2013-11-20 16:27:19 xiangfu has joined
981 2013-11-20 16:27:22 TD has quit (Quit: TD)
982 2013-11-20 16:29:01 MobTablet has joined
983 2013-11-20 16:29:30 <Diablo-D3> clocKwize: heh
984 2013-11-20 16:31:20 t7 has quit (Quit: home)
985 2013-11-20 16:33:12 <EasyCompany2020> Hey when trying to make the make file in i get Makefile.am:86 *** Mission seperator. Stop.
986 2013-11-20 16:33:53 <clocKwize> t7 (~chatzilla@chaucer.kent.ac.uk) left IRC. (Quit: home) < that guy is right near me
987 2013-11-20 16:34:19 <clocKwize> http://www.chaucercollege.co.uk/
988 2013-11-20 16:34:39 W0rmDr1nk has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
989 2013-11-20 16:35:49 _ingsoc has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
990 2013-11-20 16:35:51 EasyCompany2020 has quit ()
991 2013-11-20 16:37:21 _ingsoc has joined
992 2013-11-20 16:38:16 mE\Ta has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
993 2013-11-20 16:40:20 mike__ has joined
994 2013-11-20 16:41:00 BCBot has joined
995 2013-11-20 16:41:08 BCBot` has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
996 2013-11-20 16:43:24 drayah has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
997 2013-11-20 16:44:40 yubrew has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
998 2013-11-20 16:45:24 PiZZaMaN2K is now known as away!~PiZZaMaN2@unaffiliated/pizzaman2k|PiZZaMaN2K
999 2013-11-20 16:45:40 mappum has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1000 2013-11-20 16:46:07 mappum has joined
1001 2013-11-20 16:47:14 jgarzik_ has joined
1002 2013-11-20 16:47:31 jgarzik_ has quit (Changing host)
1003 2013-11-20 16:47:31 jgarzik_ has joined
1004 2013-11-20 16:48:07 bbrian has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1005 2013-11-20 16:51:40 tri0nz has joined
1006 2013-11-20 16:52:12 patcon has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1007 2013-11-20 16:52:32 daktak has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1008 2013-11-20 16:52:39 patcon has joined
1009 2013-11-20 16:57:43 patcon has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1010 2013-11-20 16:57:46 daktak has joined
1011 2013-11-20 16:58:22 zcopley has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
1012 2013-11-20 16:59:45 Matoking has joined
1013 2013-11-20 17:00:09 <Matoking> I have a quick question regarding sendmany Bitcoin JSON-RPC function
1014 2013-11-20 17:00:48 <Matoking> Presumably the first parameter sets which addresses the bitcoins are sent from
1015 2013-11-20 17:01:03 <sipa> you cannot send from an address
1016 2013-11-20 17:01:18 <Matoking> Well, account
1017 2013-11-20 17:01:25 ovidiusoft has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)
1018 2013-11-20 17:01:37 <sipa> it sets which account to debit for the spend, yes
1019 2013-11-20 17:01:38 drayah has joined
1020 2013-11-20 17:02:21 <Matoking> I would like it to work like sendtoaddress so that it doesn't need an account to be specified
1021 2013-11-20 17:02:30 <Matoking> Or does '' or something else work as a wildcard?
1022 2013-11-20 17:02:40 daybyter has joined
1023 2013-11-20 17:02:42 <sipa> if you're not using accounts, you always use the '' account
1024 2013-11-20 17:02:50 <sipa> so you can specify '' just fine
1025 2013-11-20 17:03:01 <sipa> it's not special, it's just a default
1026 2013-11-20 17:03:19 <Matoking> Okay, let's say I have a Bitcoin wallet with addresses, some which have labels so that they are labeled as accounts of the same name
1027 2013-11-20 17:03:52 <Matoking> Is there a way that I can ensure the bitcoins are sent, even though the specified account doesn't have enough bitcoins but the Bitcoin wallet as whole has enough bitcoins?
1028 2013-11-20 17:04:07 <Matoking> Or do I have to just reset every account name to ''?
1029 2013-11-20 17:04:29 <sipa> oh, right, sendmany fails in case there are not enough funds in the account?
1030 2013-11-20 17:04:43 <sipa> you can use move to set the value of '' to anything
1031 2013-11-20 17:04:54 <Matoking> Yep
1032 2013-11-20 17:05:33 TD has joined
1033 2013-11-20 17:05:34 <Matoking> In retrospect I should have just forgot about using labels and accounts with wallets for web services
1034 2013-11-20 17:06:05 <Matoking> Thanks for the help
1035 2013-11-20 17:07:05 Maged has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1036 2013-11-20 17:07:39 Maged has joined
1037 2013-11-20 17:08:43 daktak has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1038 2013-11-20 17:09:00 patcon has joined
1039 2013-11-20 17:14:49 t7 has joined
1040 2013-11-20 17:15:44 da2ce7_2 has joined
1041 2013-11-20 17:15:58 da2ce7_2 is now known as da2ce7_laptop
1042 2013-11-20 17:15:59 bbrian has joined
1043 2013-11-20 17:17:05 daktak has joined
1044 2013-11-20 17:18:29 wei__ has quit (Quit: wei__)
1045 2013-11-20 17:19:12 neep3r has joined
1046 2013-11-20 17:21:09 daktak has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1047 2013-11-20 17:21:17 GD_ has joined
1048 2013-11-20 17:22:21 GD_ has quit (Client Quit)
1049 2013-11-20 17:22:45 qwe_ has joined
1050 2013-11-20 17:23:05 <TD> sipa: are you attempting to do full-match merkle blocks?/
1051 2013-11-20 17:23:19 qwe_ has quit (Client Quit)
1052 2013-11-20 17:23:25 <sipa> TD: yes
1053 2013-11-20 17:23:38 <TD> excellent :)
1054 2013-11-20 17:23:41 hemry has joined
1055 2013-11-20 17:23:48 neep3r has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1056 2013-11-20 17:23:58 <TD> i guess that is the next most important step for increasing block capacity and dropping confirm times
1057 2013-11-20 17:24:14 zcopley has joined
1058 2013-11-20 17:24:37 zcopley is now known as Guest42915
1059 2013-11-20 17:25:06 reizuki__ has joined
1060 2013-11-20 17:25:06 reizuki__ has quit (Changing host)
1061 2013-11-20 17:25:06 reizuki__ has joined
1062 2013-11-20 17:26:42 zcopley_ has joined
1063 2013-11-20 17:27:33 groglogic has joined
1064 2013-11-20 17:28:23 patcon has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1065 2013-11-20 17:28:35 Guest42915 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1066 2013-11-20 17:28:50 patcon has joined
1067 2013-11-20 17:29:23 Maged has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1068 2013-11-20 17:29:45 reizuki__ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1069 2013-11-20 17:29:49 Maged has joined
1070 2013-11-20 17:29:54 neep3r has joined
1071 2013-11-20 17:30:27 da2ce7_laptop has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
1072 2013-11-20 17:30:48 patcon_ has joined
1073 2013-11-20 17:31:06 <t7> i wonder if in the future we will have a quantum signing process such that signing something away generates a new private key and if the signer peeks at the private key it would invalidate it....
1074 2013-11-20 17:31:26 <t7> (well just change it)
1075 2013-11-20 17:32:08 patcon has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1076 2013-11-20 17:32:14 kinglet_ has joined
1077 2013-11-20 17:32:14 kinglet_ has quit (Changing host)
1078 2013-11-20 17:32:14 kinglet_ has joined
1079 2013-11-20 17:32:17 kinglet has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1080 2013-11-20 17:32:20 <t7> my quantum fairy tails
1081 2013-11-20 17:32:37 iwilcox is now known as astrolabe
1082 2013-11-20 17:32:46 <t7> tales(?)
1083 2013-11-20 17:33:07 astrolabe is now known as Guest99502
1084 2013-11-20 17:33:30 Guest99502 is now known as iwilcox
1085 2013-11-20 17:33:40 [Author] has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net)
1086 2013-11-20 17:33:56 [Author] has joined
1087 2013-11-20 17:34:02 wallet43 has joined
1088 2013-11-20 17:34:57 abrkn has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1089 2013-11-20 17:36:35 <gmaxwell> t7: see the quantum digital cash papers, they basically amount to representing money as qbits with a transfer of value process that teleports the quantum state without observing it. It's kinda silly and non-pratical but fun to think about.
1090 2013-11-20 17:38:07 patcon_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1091 2013-11-20 17:39:17 wallet431 has joined
1092 2013-11-20 17:40:02 [Author] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1093 2013-11-20 17:40:38 wallet43 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1094 2013-11-20 17:41:57 <groglogic> i've personally experienced cash teleporting out of my wallet before, but it typically only happened while inside the LEGO store in downtown Chicago
1095 2013-11-20 17:42:01 TD has quit (Quit: TD)
1096 2013-11-20 17:42:39 drayah has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1097 2013-11-20 17:43:06 patcon has joined
1098 2013-11-20 17:43:26 drayah has joined
1099 2013-11-20 17:46:30 drayah has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
1100 2013-11-20 17:48:57 [Author] has joined
1101 2013-11-20 17:49:19 melvster has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1102 2013-11-20 17:50:01 MobTablet has quit (Quit: -a- Android IRC 2.1.13 Chiznillen)
1103 2013-11-20 17:50:37 brson has joined
1104 2013-11-20 18:02:47 FabianB_ has joined
1105 2013-11-20 18:03:29 FabianB has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1106 2013-11-20 18:04:38 <skinnkavaj> gmaxwell
1107 2013-11-20 18:04:58 <skinnkavaj> Regarding taking very long time for transactions to get confirmations now
1108 2013-11-20 18:05:01 <skinnkavaj> Is this true?
1109 2013-11-20 18:05:13 <skinnkavaj> "If only there was a way the originator of a transaction could directly connect to multiple mining pools of his own choosing and send his transaction to all of them simultaneously. Oh wait, there is a way: the way I just said. "
1110 2013-11-20 18:05:14 reneg1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1111 2013-11-20 18:06:19 nOgAnOo has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1112 2013-11-20 18:08:11 Akima has joined
1113 2013-11-20 18:08:52 Dennismckinnon has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1114 2013-11-20 18:09:30 go1111111 has joined
1115 2013-11-20 18:12:00 <gmaxwell> skinnkavaj: what the hell are you talking about?
1116 2013-11-20 18:14:15 RedEmerald has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1117 2013-11-20 18:14:31 agath_pd is now known as agath
1118 2013-11-20 18:15:15 <kjj> I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I suspect he is confused regarding the distinction between a miner knowing about a transaction and a miner including it in a block
1119 2013-11-20 18:15:27 <skinnkavaj> Yeah thats it
1120 2013-11-20 18:16:35 melvster has joined
1121 2013-11-20 18:17:11 <groglogic> skinnkavaj: my semi-informed edu-guess is that the recent spike over the last week and esp days has caused new txn rate to increase out of proportion to avail mining power. thus, the slowdown. if that's the case two no-think/no-code-change solutions are there need to be more miners and folks need to offer higher fees to see their txns get varified faster
1122 2013-11-20 18:17:20 Scrat has joined
1123 2013-11-20 18:17:43 <gmaxwell> groglogic: yea, thats completely uninformed.
1124 2013-11-20 18:17:48 <gmaxwell> Thanks for trying to help though.
1125 2013-11-20 18:17:58 <groglogic> gmaxwell: ok good. that's what i was hoping :-P
1126 2013-11-20 18:18:34 <groglogic> gmaxwell: i hate doing anything semi-assed. prefer fully informed or completely wildly off the market ;-)
1127 2013-11-20 18:18:54 <groglogic> gmaxwell: er, off the mark. wildly
1128 2013-11-20 18:19:09 <groglogic> on a serious note
1129 2013-11-20 18:19:10 <gmaxwell> Can we please not have the nebie question stuff in this channel? You'll actually get better answers in #bitcoin where there are more active people around who will hapily answer questions on this stuff.
1130 2013-11-20 18:19:25 <groglogic> agreed
1131 2013-11-20 18:20:00 <kjj> hmm... thinking out loud... automatically generate 3 or 4 extra change addresses... API to let your client turn one of them into a bribe to an address provided by the miner's API...
1132 2013-11-20 18:21:05 <gmaxwell> kjj: or you could ... just pay fees. Which happily "bribes" all miners, not just one.
1133 2013-11-20 18:21:33 <kjj> I'm thinking about a situation where there is a spike in transaction rate and your calculated fees might not be enough
1134 2013-11-20 18:21:42 Belxjander has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1135 2013-11-20 18:21:48 reizuki__ has joined
1136 2013-11-20 18:22:52 <gmaxwell> kjj: if more miners were doing child-pays then you could just count on spending the unconfirmed coins with more fees. Well, I guess about 15-20% of the hashpower is now.
1137 2013-11-20 18:24:07 groglogic has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1138 2013-11-20 18:24:21 <kjj> I always end up thinking that it would be really nifty if transactions in the mempool could be flagged in various ways
1139 2013-11-20 18:24:53 <gmaxwell> like https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1583 ?
1140 2013-11-20 18:25:25 <kjj> more
1141 2013-11-20 18:25:54 groglogic has joined
1142 2013-11-20 18:26:06 <kjj> "include in mined blocks, but don't transmit", "discard if conflict is received", etc
1143 2013-11-20 18:26:30 McKay has quit (Quit: Leaving)
1144 2013-11-20 18:26:42 nOgAnOo has joined
1145 2013-11-20 18:26:47 McKay has joined
1146 2013-11-20 18:27:26 <groglogic> kjj: those are test scenario ideas? (i got disco'ed by my wifi a bit, may have missed something)
1147 2013-11-20 18:28:41 bitnumus has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1148 2013-11-20 18:28:50 dust-otc has joined
1149 2013-11-20 18:29:05 TheLordOfTime has joined
1150 2013-11-20 18:29:25 xiangfu has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1151 2013-11-20 18:29:50 <kjj> groglogic: I'm thinking flags for transactions
1152 2013-11-20 18:30:02 nOgAnOo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1153 2013-11-20 18:30:21 nOgAnOo has joined
1154 2013-11-20 18:31:01 Application has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1155 2013-11-20 18:31:01 tri0nz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1156 2013-11-20 18:31:09 Belxjander has joined
1157 2013-11-20 18:31:17 <kjj> think of a p2pool user with hundreds of small rewards that need to be cleaned up. he could make a HUGE consolidation transaction, and flag it for no-broadcast so that it ends up in HIS next block
1158 2013-11-20 18:31:21 xiangfu has joined
1159 2013-11-20 18:33:29 dust-otc has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1160 2013-11-20 18:33:34 xire has joined
1161 2013-11-20 18:34:13 nsa__ has joined
1162 2013-11-20 18:35:04 nOgAnOo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1163 2013-11-20 18:35:19 nOgAnOo has joined
1164 2013-11-20 18:37:05 wallet431 has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
1165 2013-11-20 18:39:12 TD has joined
1166 2013-11-20 18:39:32 GingerGeek has joined
1167 2013-11-20 18:39:43 marijnfs has joined
1168 2013-11-20 18:40:29 andytoshi has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1169 2013-11-20 18:40:31 neep3r has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1170 2013-11-20 18:40:34 drayah has joined
1171 2013-11-20 18:41:57 roconnor has joined
1172 2013-11-20 18:43:04 bitnumus has joined
1173 2013-11-20 18:43:13 yubrew has joined
1174 2013-11-20 18:43:35 phungus is now known as phungus_CPO
1175 2013-11-20 18:44:23 bbrian has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1176 2013-11-20 18:47:23 <BlueMatt> hmm...a node just got disconnected from a relay node for relaying a tx with 0inputs/outputs
1177 2013-11-20 18:47:44 <jouke> welcome to the club
1178 2013-11-20 18:47:55 <kjj> quantity zero, or value zero?
1179 2013-11-20 18:48:09 <BlueMatt> this one needs solved...
1180 2013-11-20 18:48:11 <BlueMatt> quanitity
1181 2013-11-20 18:48:54 <kjj> sounds right to me. quantity zero inputs isn't a valid transaction. I'd disconnect too
1182 2013-11-20 18:49:10 <BlueMatt> perfectly reasonable bitcoind's are relaying them, is my point
1183 2013-11-20 18:49:16 <kjj> or are you on the node side, wondering why it did that?
1184 2013-11-20 18:49:30 <kjj> hmm. do you have the peer info?
1185 2013-11-20 18:49:30 <BlueMatt> its something thats been seen on many nodes for a while
1186 2013-11-20 18:51:47 Gnaf has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018])
1187 2013-11-20 18:52:33 <gmaxwell> We've had people here reporting it on their own nodes.
1188 2013-11-20 18:53:19 richcollins has joined
1189 2013-11-20 18:55:11 wallet43 has joined
1190 2013-11-20 18:56:19 donatecoins has joined
1191 2013-11-20 18:57:22 jeewee has joined
1192 2013-11-20 19:00:19 kunstmusik has joined
1193 2013-11-20 19:00:28 andytoshi has joined
1194 2013-11-20 19:00:47 phungus_CPO is now known as phungus
1195 2013-11-20 19:01:59 Grouver has joined
1196 2013-11-20 19:04:33 kunstmusik has quit (Client Quit)
1197 2013-11-20 19:05:38 jgarzik__ has joined
1198 2013-11-20 19:05:58 jgarzik_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1199 2013-11-20 19:07:24 btcdev135 has joined
1200 2013-11-20 19:07:55 btcdev135 has quit (Client Quit)
1201 2013-11-20 19:09:26 Gnaf has joined
1202 2013-11-20 19:10:08 Gnaf has quit (Changing host)
1203 2013-11-20 19:10:08 Gnaf has joined
1204 2013-11-20 19:10:11 <lianj> wasn't me. promise
1205 2013-11-20 19:12:26 wallet43 has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
1206 2013-11-20 19:16:07 GingerGeek is now known as GingerGeek[Away]
1207 2013-11-20 19:17:00 lle1 has joined
1208 2013-11-20 19:17:42 akrmn2 has joined
1209 2013-11-20 19:18:58 lle has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1210 2013-11-20 19:20:16 xire has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1211 2013-11-20 19:24:14 licnep is now known as licnep__
1212 2013-11-20 19:24:48 skinnkavaj has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1213 2013-11-20 19:24:48 licnep_ has left ()
1214 2013-11-20 19:25:14 AndrewJackson has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1215 2013-11-20 19:25:16 brson has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1216 2013-11-20 19:25:25 licnep has joined
1217 2013-11-20 19:25:34 xire has joined
1218 2013-11-20 19:25:34 xire has quit (Changing host)
1219 2013-11-20 19:25:34 xire has joined
1220 2013-11-20 19:26:02 deepc0re has joined
1221 2013-11-20 19:26:04 skinnkavaj has joined
1222 2013-11-20 19:27:09 AndrewJackson has joined
1223 2013-11-20 19:27:23 brson has joined
1224 2013-11-20 19:27:26 Gnaf has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018])
1225 2013-11-20 19:27:30 RoboTeddy has joined
1226 2013-11-20 19:29:12 dexX7 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1227 2013-11-20 19:29:28 fredspencer has joined
1228 2013-11-20 19:30:13 fredspencer has quit (Client Quit)
1229 2013-11-20 19:30:23 nsa__ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1230 2013-11-20 19:30:44 fredspencer has joined
1231 2013-11-20 19:30:54 testicon has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1232 2013-11-20 19:31:08 fredspencer has quit (Client Quit)
1233 2013-11-20 19:32:00 btc1981 has joined
1234 2013-11-20 19:32:54 testicon has joined
1235 2013-11-20 19:34:48 skinnkavaj has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1236 2013-11-20 19:35:09 damethos has quit (Quit: Bye)
1237 2013-11-20 19:35:33 abadr has joined
1238 2013-11-20 19:36:23 skinnkavaj has joined
1239 2013-11-20 19:36:29 skinnkavaj has quit (Changing host)
1240 2013-11-20 19:36:29 skinnkavaj has joined
1241 2013-11-20 19:37:07 dexX7 has joined
1242 2013-11-20 19:37:55 [Author] has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net)
1243 2013-11-20 19:38:07 [Author] has joined
1244 2013-11-20 19:38:14 porquilho has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1245 2013-11-20 19:39:46 arader has joined
1246 2013-11-20 19:41:05 ovidiusoft has joined
1247 2013-11-20 19:41:21 Nesetalis has joined
1248 2013-11-20 19:42:20 Namworld has joined
1249 2013-11-20 19:48:50 _ingsoc has quit (Quit: leaving)
1250 2013-11-20 19:49:31 Matoking has joined
1251 2013-11-20 19:50:10 porquilho has joined
1252 2013-11-20 19:50:52 Matoking has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1253 2013-11-20 19:53:20 jeewee has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
1254 2013-11-20 19:55:12 abadr has quit (Quit: abadr)
1255 2013-11-20 19:55:24 tri0nz has joined
1256 2013-11-20 19:55:31 GingerGeek[Away] is now known as GingerGeek
1257 2013-11-20 19:55:32 GingerGeek is now known as GingerGeek[Away]
1258 2013-11-20 19:57:48 Gnaf has joined
1259 2013-11-20 19:58:14 Gnaf has quit (Changing host)
1260 2013-11-20 19:58:14 Gnaf has joined
1261 2013-11-20 19:59:16 brson has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1262 2013-11-20 20:00:35 deepc0re_ has joined
1263 2013-11-20 20:00:45 deepc0re has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1264 2013-11-20 20:03:50 brson has joined
1265 2013-11-20 20:04:04 Application has joined
1266 2013-11-20 20:04:09 damethos has joined
1267 2013-11-20 20:08:09 Elmf has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1268 2013-11-20 20:08:12 i2pRelay has joined
1269 2013-11-20 20:08:52 Elmf has joined
1270 2013-11-20 20:09:31 d9b4bef9 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1271 2013-11-20 20:10:09 d9b4bef9 has joined
1272 2013-11-20 20:10:35 Coincidental has joined
1273 2013-11-20 20:11:29 joesmoe has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1274 2013-11-20 20:12:12 donatecoins has quit (Quit: Page closed)
1275 2013-11-20 20:14:33 joesmoe has joined
1276 2013-11-20 20:16:30 brson has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1277 2013-11-20 20:17:29 eristisk has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1278 2013-11-20 20:17:59 viperhr has joined
1279 2013-11-20 20:17:59 MobPhone has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1280 2013-11-20 20:18:45 jgarzik has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1281 2013-11-20 20:19:11 zcopley_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1282 2013-11-20 20:21:00 tri0nzzzzz has joined
1283 2013-11-20 20:21:55 elgrecoFL has quit (Excess Flood)
1284 2013-11-20 20:22:37 neep3r has joined
1285 2013-11-20 20:22:58 tri0nz has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1286 2013-11-20 20:23:09 btcbtc has quit (Quit: btcbtc)
1287 2013-11-20 20:23:25 btcbtc has joined
1288 2013-11-20 20:23:37 elgrecoFL has joined
1289 2013-11-20 20:28:28 pecket has joined
1290 2013-11-20 20:29:48 guest87621 has joined
1291 2013-11-20 20:30:13 groglogic has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1292 2013-11-20 20:31:21 guest87621 has left ()
1293 2013-11-20 20:31:38 flatfly has joined
1294 2013-11-20 20:32:08 has quit (Clown|!Clown@unaffiliated/clown/x-0272709|)
1295 2013-11-20 20:33:15 <flatfly> does anyone know of a good script (python/ruby/etc) to recover a wallet.dat password from a pywallet dump?
1296 2013-11-20 20:33:26 <flatfly> i'm trying to help someone who remembers most of his password,
1297 2013-11-20 20:33:26 <flatfly> and only have access to a partial dump (not the full wallet.dat)
1298 2013-11-20 20:36:14 agnostic98 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1299 2013-11-20 20:36:47 agnostic98 has joined
1300 2013-11-20 20:40:51 agnostic98 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1301 2013-11-20 20:41:43 abadr has joined
1302 2013-11-20 20:42:50 <Ry4an> if they don't have the full wallet.dat what good will finding the password do them?
1303 2013-11-20 20:43:36 darkskiez has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1304 2013-11-20 20:44:44 JontyX has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1305 2013-11-20 20:46:06 Matoking has quit (2!~kvirc@dsl-prvbrasgw1-50dc06-196.dhcp.inet.fi|Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1306 2013-11-20 20:48:47 <flatfly> they do have the full wallet.dat, but i don't
1307 2013-11-20 20:49:08 <flatfly> i'm working with a partial export they sent me
1308 2013-11-20 20:49:39 RoboTeddy has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1309 2013-11-20 20:49:42 <flatfly> it's a no-trust way of helping someone recover access to their wallet
1310 2013-11-20 20:50:37 <Ry4an> ah, clever
1311 2013-11-20 20:51:01 tri0nz has joined
1312 2013-11-20 20:51:26 nomailing has joined
1313 2013-11-20 20:51:46 devrando1 is now known as devrandom
1314 2013-11-20 20:53:14 jevin has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
1315 2013-11-20 20:53:52 tri0nz has quit (Client Quit)
1316 2013-11-20 20:54:48 tri0nzzzzz has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1317 2013-11-20 20:55:32 jaakkos has quit (Changing host)
1318 2013-11-20 20:55:32 jaakkos has joined
1319 2013-11-20 20:55:37 <jaakkos> is there a recent graph for number of bitcoin nodes connected?
1320 2013-11-20 20:58:02 abadr has quit (Quit: abadr)
1321 2013-11-20 20:58:05 RedEmerald has joined
1322 2013-11-20 20:59:57 <phantomcircuit> jaakkos, it's ~4500 available
1323 2013-11-20 21:00:04 <phantomcircuit> public nodes end up with ~35 connections
1324 2013-11-20 21:00:16 <phantomcircuit> so ;;calc 4500*(35/8)
1325 2013-11-20 21:00:22 <phantomcircuit> ;;calc 4500*(35/8)
1326 2013-11-20 21:00:23 <gribble> 19687.5
1327 2013-11-20 21:00:27 <phantomcircuit> 20k nodes
1328 2013-11-20 21:00:28 <phantomcircuit> roughly
1329 2013-11-20 21:00:28 MobiusL is now known as Zorba
1330 2013-11-20 21:00:34 <phantomcircuit> or is that 24500
1331 2013-11-20 21:00:37 <phantomcircuit> shrug
1332 2013-11-20 21:01:00 Zorba is now known as MobiusL
1333 2013-11-20 21:01:40 <jaakkos> ok
1334 2013-11-20 21:05:50 JontyX has joined
1335 2013-11-20 21:06:50 Urushiol is now known as Urushiol-zZzz
1336 2013-11-20 21:07:41 Pengoo has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1337 2013-11-20 21:09:49 drayah has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1338 2013-11-20 21:10:24 AusBitBank has joined
1339 2013-11-20 21:10:37 ThomasV has joined
1340 2013-11-20 21:10:40 btc555 has joined
1341 2013-11-20 21:11:22 brson has joined
1342 2013-11-20 21:12:31 Subo1977_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1343 2013-11-20 21:12:48 daybyter has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1344 2013-11-20 21:14:50 bit76794 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1345 2013-11-20 21:15:41 thelorax123 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1346 2013-11-20 21:16:29 flatfly has quit (Quit: Yo!)
1347 2013-11-20 21:16:50 thelorax123 has joined
1348 2013-11-20 21:18:34 porquilho has quit ()
1349 2013-11-20 21:20:23 RoboTeddy has joined
1350 2013-11-20 21:22:22 markus__ has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1351 2013-11-20 21:23:36 wavelet has joined
1352 2013-11-20 21:23:50 damethos has quit (Quit: Bye)
1353 2013-11-20 21:24:05 agnostic98 has joined
1354 2013-11-20 21:25:32 Subo1977 has joined
1355 2013-11-20 21:27:32 Subo1977 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1356 2013-11-20 21:28:00 [\\\] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1357 2013-11-20 21:28:10 djcoin has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1)
1358 2013-11-20 21:29:02 Subo1977 has joined
1359 2013-11-20 21:30:26 nitrate has joined
1360 2013-11-20 21:30:28 jgarzik__ has quit (Changing host)
1361 2013-11-20 21:30:28 jgarzik__ has joined
1362 2013-11-20 21:30:31 jgarzik__ is now known as jgarzik
1363 2013-11-20 21:31:07 tri0nz has joined
1364 2013-11-20 21:32:02 marijnfs has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1365 2013-11-20 21:33:40 MobPhone has joined
1366 2013-11-20 21:35:31 MobPhone has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1367 2013-11-20 21:37:36 damethos has joined
1368 2013-11-20 21:38:27 toffoo has joined
1369 2013-11-20 21:39:40 pecket has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1370 2013-11-20 21:42:07 drayah has joined
1371 2013-11-20 21:42:08 Subo1977 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1372 2013-11-20 21:44:28 MobPhone has joined
1373 2013-11-20 21:45:15 Subo1977 has joined
1374 2013-11-20 21:46:40 drayah has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1375 2013-11-20 21:50:25 digitalmagus2 has joined
1376 2013-11-20 21:50:37 jakov has joined
1377 2013-11-20 21:53:40 Anduck has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1378 2013-11-20 21:53:57 fanquake has left ()
1379 2013-11-20 21:54:40 owowo has quit (Quit: °!° ~~ S4n1tY 1S Fut1l3 ~~ °!°)
1380 2013-11-20 21:56:16 Gnaf has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018])
1381 2013-11-20 21:57:01 n0g4n0o has joined
1382 2013-11-20 21:57:23 nOgAnOo has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1383 2013-11-20 21:58:07 akrmn2 has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
1384 2013-11-20 21:58:17 richcollins has quit (Quit: richcollins)
1385 2013-11-20 22:01:12 rdymac has quit (Excess Flood)
1386 2013-11-20 22:01:31 Anduck has joined
1387 2013-11-20 22:01:54 Dennismckinnon has joined
1388 2013-11-20 22:03:44 Application has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1389 2013-11-20 22:03:44 rdymac has joined
1390 2013-11-20 22:04:00 roconnor has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1391 2013-11-20 22:04:22 bbrian has joined
1392 2013-11-20 22:04:33 drayah has joined
1393 2013-11-20 22:05:04 Subo1977 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1394 2013-11-20 22:05:05 MagBo has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1395 2013-11-20 22:06:12 pecket has joined
1396 2013-11-20 22:07:56 PiZZaMaN2K is now known as PiZZaMaN2K|away
1397 2013-11-20 22:09:00 Subo1977 has joined
1398 2013-11-20 22:12:32 yubrew has quit ()
1399 2013-11-20 22:12:51 Urushiol-zZzz is now known as Urushiol
1400 2013-11-20 22:14:03 hemry has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1401 2013-11-20 22:14:26 Scrat has quit (Quit: a)
1402 2013-11-20 22:14:34 hemry has joined
1403 2013-11-20 22:14:40 Scrat has joined
1404 2013-11-20 22:19:01 rdymac has quit (Excess Flood)
1405 2013-11-20 22:19:01 hemry has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1406 2013-11-20 22:20:49 rdymac has joined
1407 2013-11-20 22:22:16 brson has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1408 2013-11-20 22:22:56 Che-Anarc has joined
1409 2013-11-20 22:24:46 Muis_ has joined
1410 2013-11-20 22:25:42 hemry has joined
1411 2013-11-20 22:26:04 alexwaters has joined
1412 2013-11-20 22:26:10 n0g4n0o has left ()
1413 2013-11-20 22:26:54 Muis__ has joined
1414 2013-11-20 22:27:58 Muis has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1415 2013-11-20 22:28:23 Muis__ is now known as Muis
1416 2013-11-20 22:29:00 <gmaxwell> I'm obviously failing to communicate with the guy here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/3288
1417 2013-11-20 22:29:05 <gmaxwell> can someone else give it a shot?
1418 2013-11-20 22:30:51 abrkn has joined
1419 2013-11-20 22:31:08 Muis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1420 2013-11-20 22:31:41 thelorax123 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1421 2013-11-20 22:31:47 <Apocalyptic> gmaxwell, not worth it
1422 2013-11-20 22:32:43 thelorax123 has joined
1423 2013-11-20 22:33:22 <edcba> is there a project to handle many wallets with the official client ?
1424 2013-11-20 22:35:05 <Luke-Jr> edcba: CodeShark used to be working on that, not sure if he's given up on it though
1425 2013-11-20 22:35:34 rdymac has quit (Excess Flood)
1426 2013-11-20 22:35:45 richcollins has joined
1427 2013-11-20 22:35:51 Akima has left ()
1428 2013-11-20 22:35:54 <TD> if a node sends an already confirmed tx to a peer in a tx message, it's considered to be an orphan, right? because the inputs aren't in the utxo set
1429 2013-11-20 22:36:06 <TD> or is it seen as a double spend
1430 2013-11-20 22:36:50 <jgarzik> td: it's dropped as invalid
1431 2013-11-20 22:36:54 neep3r_ has joined
1432 2013-11-20 22:38:10 Coincidental has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1433 2013-11-20 22:39:35 <TD> how can it reliably tell the difference with no tx index?
1434 2013-11-20 22:39:41 neep3r has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1435 2013-11-20 22:39:50 rdymac has joined
1436 2013-11-20 22:40:51 GMP has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1437 2013-11-20 22:41:15 neep3r_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1438 2013-11-20 22:41:22 <edcba> TD: is it necessary ?
1439 2013-11-20 22:41:26 neep3r has joined
1440 2013-11-20 22:41:30 cypher has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1441 2013-11-20 22:42:10 andytoshi has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1442 2013-11-20 22:42:17 <TD> probably not. i was just wondering in case "double spending" is treated differently in future to repetitive broadcasts
1443 2013-11-20 22:43:20 wereHamster has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1444 2013-11-20 22:43:21 <edcba> only field that could tell difference seems to be lock_time from what i see
1445 2013-11-20 22:43:26 msvb-lab has quit (Quit: msvb-lab)
1446 2013-11-20 22:43:40 topace has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1447 2013-11-20 22:43:40 <edcba> and that's a "could"
1448 2013-11-20 22:43:52 wereHamster has joined
1449 2013-11-20 22:44:03 topace has joined
1450 2013-11-20 22:44:10 Subo1977 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1451 2013-11-20 22:44:12 Subo1977_ has joined
1452 2013-11-20 22:44:13 kinglet_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1453 2013-11-20 22:47:49 <jaakkos> let's say someone put up a bitcoin exchange or a web wallet. can you think of a way the people running the site could prove the coins were stolen in case the service got hacked?
1454 2013-11-20 22:47:51 kinglet_ has joined
1455 2013-11-20 22:48:11 <jaakkos> as in, stolen by someone else but the site's admins.
1456 2013-11-20 22:48:55 <jaakkos> that sounds quite impossible. can you suggest some other approach?
1457 2013-11-20 22:49:40 johnsoft has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1458 2013-11-20 22:49:54 <petertodd> jaakkos: the only way I've ever found is to carefully make stealing the coins unprofitable with fidelity bonds, alone or with secure hardware with well defined minimum costs to hack
1459 2013-11-20 22:50:00 <matjeh> encrypt/decrypt and create transactions client-side, in javascript, and only ever store/transmit the encrypted wallets, and the created transactions
1460 2013-11-20 22:50:21 <petertodd> jaakkos: not directly what you want, but what that accomplishes is what you actually want
1461 2013-11-20 22:50:34 johnsoft has joined
1462 2013-11-20 22:50:36 <petertodd> jaakkos: basically what society already does of course...
1463 2013-11-20 22:51:40 Coincidental has joined
1464 2013-11-20 22:52:11 <jaakkos> matjeh: i was thinking of that. however, i can't think of a way to avoid polluting the block chain
1465 2013-11-20 22:52:27 richcollins has quit (Quit: richcollins)
1466 2013-11-20 22:52:46 <jaakkos> matjeh: in case it's an exchange.
1467 2013-11-20 22:53:03 <petertodd> jaakkos: s/polluting/using/...
1468 2013-11-20 22:53:24 <petertodd> jaakkos: no need to put values into this discussion :P
1469 2013-11-20 22:54:03 <jaakkos> good point :)
1470 2013-11-20 22:54:47 <jaakkos> i need to look into fidelity bonds...
1471 2013-11-20 22:55:17 jgarzik has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
1472 2013-11-20 22:55:25 <jaakkos> do you know what is the approach taken by big services such as gox, stamp, btcchina, bitpay, etc?
1473 2013-11-20 22:55:41 eristisk has joined
1474 2013-11-20 22:55:41 <jaakkos> (and if you do, are you willing to tell :))
1475 2013-11-20 22:55:42 Application has joined
1476 2013-11-20 22:55:44 <petertodd> jaakkos: yeah, though be warned there's a tremendous amount of subtlety required to use them effectively
1477 2013-11-20 22:56:14 <petertodd> jaakkos: some are allegedly using HSM's, but not with remote-attestation so it's irrelevant to their customers. Basically you can sum it up as "Trust us."
1478 2013-11-20 22:56:23 <petertodd> jaakkos: Easy to improve upon that. :)
1479 2013-11-20 22:56:32 neep3r has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1480 2013-11-20 22:59:04 ovidiusoft has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)
1481 2013-11-20 22:59:22 JontyX has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1482 2013-11-20 22:59:50 eristisk has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1483 2013-11-20 23:00:41 JontyX has joined
1484 2013-11-20 23:01:41 Grouver has quit (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference)
1485 2013-11-20 23:01:48 TD has quit (Quit: TD)
1486 2013-11-20 23:04:21 sneak has quit (Quit: leaving)
1487 2013-11-20 23:04:43 sneak has joined
1488 2013-11-20 23:09:35 torsthaldo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1489 2013-11-20 23:10:09 neep3r has joined
1490 2013-11-20 23:12:14 zcopley has joined
1491 2013-11-20 23:12:37 zcopley is now known as Guest72821
1492 2013-11-20 23:13:01 eristisk has joined
1493 2013-11-20 23:14:18 Che-Anarc has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1494 2013-11-20 23:15:07 Guest72821 is now known as zcopley
1495 2013-11-20 23:15:36 bwen has joined
1496 2013-11-20 23:17:00 ThomasV has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1497 2013-11-20 23:17:03 damethos has quit (Quit: Bye)
1498 2013-11-20 23:19:00 eoss has joined
1499 2013-11-20 23:19:01 <sipa> i see 5.3k well-reachable nodes!
1500 2013-11-20 23:19:34 <bwen> would it be complicated to get notified of new blocks and list of transactions in it without running a node or client bitcoin nor using a third partie API ?
1501 2013-11-20 23:19:34 Urushiol is now known as Urushiol-zZzz
1502 2013-11-20 23:19:57 <sipa> bwen: then by what would you be notified...?
1503 2013-11-20 23:20:13 gingpark1 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1504 2013-11-20 23:20:20 zcopley has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1505 2013-11-20 23:20:33 <bwen> I dummy click that only get block notification then parse it and insert it in a db...
1506 2013-11-20 23:20:40 <bwen> thin thin thin client
1507 2013-11-20 23:20:49 <sipa> yes, so a very simple node
1508 2013-11-20 23:20:52 <bwen> dummy client*
1509 2013-11-20 23:20:53 <bwen> :P
1510 2013-11-20 23:20:54 <sipa> there are python tools that do that
1511 2013-11-20 23:21:03 <sipa> pynode maybe
1512 2013-11-20 23:21:16 <bwen> yeah i've looked a bit, but i'm not looking for a full node
1513 2013-11-20 23:21:25 <bwen> nor a wallet that can process transaction
1514 2013-11-20 23:21:26 <sipa> nor am i talking about a full node
1515 2013-11-20 23:21:50 eristisk has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1516 2013-11-20 23:22:00 <bwen> i'd like to under take this thin client on my own as a learning experience
1517 2013-11-20 23:22:15 <bwen> hence why I am not really looking for a third party tool
1518 2013-11-20 23:22:34 <sipa> you want to write it yourself?
1519 2013-11-20 23:22:40 <bwen> sure :)
1520 2013-11-20 23:22:56 <sipa> no, i mean, what is your goal?
1521 2013-11-20 23:23:42 Coincidental has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1522 2013-11-20 23:23:46 <bwen> a Client daemon that gets notified by the bitcoin network when new blocks are found and logs the block in a database
1523 2013-11-20 23:23:50 Urushiol-zZzz is now known as Urushiol
1524 2013-11-20 23:24:01 <bwen> does not parse the WHOLE blockchain. just new blocks
1525 2013-11-20 23:24:14 Coincidental has joined
1526 2013-11-20 23:24:19 drayah has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1527 2013-11-20 23:24:39 <bwen> I guess what i'm asking is really the part: How can I make a client that gets notified by the bitcoin network of new blocks
1528 2013-11-20 23:25:08 <sipa> bwen: https://github.com/jgarzik/pynode/tree/mini-node
1529 2013-11-20 23:25:40 btc555 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
1530 2013-11-20 23:25:49 <bwen> sweet i'll be dissecting that, thx :D
1531 2013-11-20 23:28:26 Coincidental has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1532 2013-11-20 23:28:36 drayah has joined
1533 2013-11-20 23:28:59 drayah has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1534 2013-11-20 23:29:17 drayah has joined
1535 2013-11-20 23:30:29 drayah has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1536 2013-11-20 23:33:44 <bwen> hmm how do I handshake a connection with the bitcoin network... How do I find the first IP (for TestNet or Bitcoin) ?
1537 2013-11-20 23:34:03 <sipa> you connect to a trusted node
1538 2013-11-20 23:34:19 drayah has joined
1539 2013-11-20 23:34:20 <sipa> unless you do verification of the data yourself, you shouldn't trust what a random other node tells you
1540 2013-11-20 23:34:27 btcbtc has quit (Quit: btcbtc)
1541 2013-11-20 23:34:31 <bwen> I remember hearing that in the early days it used to connect to irc channel to get a list :P
1542 2013-11-20 23:34:41 <sipa> there are DNS seeds now
1543 2013-11-20 23:34:54 <melvster> anyone know ... how many systems support lock_time, right now?
1544 2013-11-20 23:34:55 <sipa> but don't use them unless you actually have a (fully or simplified) verifying node
1545 2013-11-20 23:35:52 c0rw1n has joined
1546 2013-11-20 23:36:10 <bwen> right, where can I read more about the DNS seeds? thats all trusted nodes ? if not how do I find a trusted node?
1547 2013-11-20 23:36:24 <sipa> a trusted node == a node you trust
1548 2013-11-20 23:36:39 <sipa> you shouldn't trust someone else's stuff unless you know them or pay them for it :p
1549 2013-11-20 23:36:49 <sipa> dns seeds are only to find random other nodes
1550 2013-11-20 23:36:56 <bwen> aight
1551 2013-11-20 23:36:58 <sipa> whether they're trusted is something you need to decide
1552 2013-11-20 23:37:31 <bwen> I guess the DNS seeds is a good start :)
1553 2013-11-20 23:37:41 Guest22952 has left ()
1554 2013-11-20 23:37:43 <sipa> NOOO
1555 2013-11-20 23:37:50 liquidghostt has joined
1556 2013-11-20 23:37:59 <sipa> don't connect a non-verifying node to random peers
1557 2013-11-20 23:38:45 patcon has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1558 2013-11-20 23:38:48 <bwen> well for dev purpose its good enough, I'll hardcode a trusted node. Or a list of trusted nodes
1559 2013-11-20 23:39:12 <bwen> but I havent decided yet who'll be the trust nodes... hence the: good enough for now
1560 2013-11-20 23:39:18 patcon has joined
1561 2013-11-20 23:39:26 <sipa> sure, for dev purposes just connect to some random node
1562 2013-11-20 23:40:24 <warren> sipa: is there a graph of good listening nodes/time?
1563 2013-11-20 23:40:30 <sipa> no
1564 2013-11-20 23:41:23 i2pRelay has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1565 2013-11-20 23:41:40 agricocb has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1566 2013-11-20 23:42:36 rastapopuloto has left ()
1567 2013-11-20 23:43:14 <gavinandresen> melvster: what do you mean "support lock_time" ? Time-locked transactions are fully supported, but they won't get relayed across the network until after the time lock expires (which just means you need one or both of the parties to the transaction to hold it until then)
1568 2013-11-20 23:44:01 <gavinandresen> (or I suppose somebody could start a service to hold time-locked transactions for people, maybe in exchange for a small feeâ¦)
1569 2013-11-20 23:44:05 patcon has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1570 2013-11-20 23:44:29 <melvster> gavinandresen: thanks for the explanation ... that answers my question
1571 2013-11-20 23:45:06 <bwen> a small... bitcoin fee... which... we'll hardcode... just to be sure it doesnt scale... I'm IN! :D *wink wink*
1572 2013-11-20 23:45:07 <gmaxwell> melvster: what was your question? Gavin gave a "answer all possible questions" answer, but I'm curious as to what you were actually asking about. What did you mean by support?
1573 2013-11-20 23:45:31 t7 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1574 2013-11-20 23:46:05 i2pRelay has joined
1575 2013-11-20 23:46:13 <melvster> gmaxwell: i was wondering to what extent lock_time had been implemented ... i was reading about lock_time and nlocktime and they seem like fascinating concepts, i wanted to try and work out what stage it was at
1576 2013-11-20 23:46:35 <melvster> e.g. in the reference implementation
1577 2013-11-20 23:47:04 <sipa> locktime is fully implemented
1578 2013-11-20 23:47:20 <gmaxwell> melvster: it's not the sort of thing which is very agreeable to a gradual implementation, as enforcing it is a blockchain validation rule.
1579 2013-11-20 23:47:47 <melvster> got it, makes sense
1580 2013-11-20 23:47:53 <gavinandresen> people often miss that locktime is ignored if all the input sequence numbers are MAX_INT, and think it isn't supported because it doesn't work for them
1581 2013-11-20 23:48:20 treeprogram has joined
1582 2013-11-20 23:48:35 treeprogram is now known as amincd
1583 2013-11-20 23:49:05 <amincd> is there somewhere I can read more about pruning, and the development timeline on it?
1584 2013-11-20 23:49:10 go1111111 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1585 2013-11-20 23:49:30 <sipa> implementing is very easy
1586 2013-11-20 23:49:49 drayah has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1587 2013-11-20 23:49:52 <sipa> it's making sure that nodes will still find non-pruned nodes to fetch blocks from afterwards that's slightly harder
1588 2013-11-20 23:50:06 t7 has joined
1589 2013-11-20 23:50:52 <amincd> will there be pruned and non-pruned versions?
1590 2013-11-20 23:51:01 tri0nzzzzz has joined
1591 2013-11-20 23:51:05 <amincd> I'm concerned about the size of the blockchain when, inevitably, the blocksize limit is raised
1592 2013-11-20 23:51:28 <sipa> basically you can keep blocks or not
1593 2013-11-20 23:51:34 <sipa> or just the most recent ones
1594 2013-11-20 23:51:56 <sipa> the problem is that nodes that have missed some blocks, or are just syncing from scratch, still need to find them
1595 2013-11-20 23:51:57 nomailing has quit (Quit: nomailing)
1596 2013-11-20 23:52:08 <sipa> so pruning is not about having less to download, you still need to see every block
1597 2013-11-20 23:52:13 <sipa> you just don't need to keep all of them
1598 2013-11-20 23:52:29 <amincd> so nodes will have to advertise whether they're full blockchain carriers or pruned nodes
1599 2013-11-20 23:52:43 <sipa> indeed
1600 2013-11-20 23:52:49 <warren> amincd: it's been proposed that future nodes might be called 'archive nodes'
1601 2013-11-20 23:52:54 <sipa> and we need to agree on a way to advertize that
1602 2013-11-20 23:53:16 tri0nz has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1603 2013-11-20 23:53:34 hnz has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1604 2013-11-20 23:54:22 <amincd> thanks
1605 2013-11-20 23:56:35 patcon has joined
1606 2013-11-20 23:56:45 radiator has joined
1607 2013-11-20 23:57:02 <radiator> hi. how long should a tx with 0.0001 btc fee take to confirm ?
1608 2013-11-20 23:57:08 Urushiol is now known as Urushiol-zZzz
1609 2013-11-20 23:58:01 hnz has joined
1610 2013-11-20 23:59:47 t7 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)