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   3 2013-12-06 00:00:23 <cfields> Luke-Jr: then cd to src and 'make libbitcoin_server.a'
   4 2013-12-06 00:00:27 <phantomcircuit> lol
   5 2013-12-06 00:00:37 <Luke-Jr> hm
   6 2013-12-06 00:00:41 <phantomcircuit> i just noticed coincontrol is organizing inputs by address not transaction
   7 2013-12-06 00:00:51 <phantomcircuit> outputs*
   8 2013-12-06 00:01:15 <phantomcircuit> that is actually very neat
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  15 2013-12-06 00:04:36 <Luke-Jr> cfields: alertTests is also not being built O.o
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  23 2013-12-06 00:06:05 <cfields> Luke-Jr: wumpus asked me not to change it around until his next changes go in
  24 2013-12-06 00:06:39 <cfields> i'll have a look then
  25 2013-12-06 00:06:55 <Luke-Jr> wtf
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  27 2013-12-06 00:07:40 <cfields> Luke-Jr: er, i probably phrased that poorly. I'd like to rearrange it a bit, and wumpus asked me to hold off to avoid conflicting too much with his PR
  28 2013-12-06 00:07:42 <Luke-Jr> gavinandresen: how do I run alert tests if alertTests is not in git?
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  30 2013-12-06 00:09:58 <gavinandresen> Luke-Jr: ???  src/test/alert_tests.cpp reads in src/test/data/alertTests.raw....
  31 2013-12-06 00:10:15 <phantomcircuit> who maintains all the qt stuff?
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  33 2013-12-06 00:11:11 <gavinandresen> phantomcircuit: "all the qt stuff" -- wumpus is probably the answer.  Or maybe the Qt people at Nokia.  Depends on what you mean by "stuff"
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  36 2013-12-06 00:11:22 <phantomcircuit> i mean the qt stuff in bitcoin
  37 2013-12-06 00:11:23 <phantomcircuit> heh
  38 2013-12-06 00:11:49 <gavinandresen> Luke-Jr wumpus:  my 0.8.6rc1 gitian sigs match yours
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  42 2013-12-06 00:13:59 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|gavinandresen: o/
  43 2013-12-06 00:14:38 <gavinandresen> michagogo|cloud: o/  <-- left-handed Nazi salute?
  44 2013-12-06 00:14:49 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|no, a greeting
  45 2013-12-06 00:14:58 <gavinandresen> oh.  Howdy!
  46 2013-12-06 00:15:01 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|I had a question for you...
  47 2013-12-06 00:15:10 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|I noticed that release-process.md says to use git tag -a
  48 2013-12-06 00:15:25 <Luke-Jr> gavinandresen: dunno, my alert tests are segfaulting because it can't find alertTests :/
  49 2013-12-06 00:15:25 <phantomcircuit> gavinandresen, that is a strange assumption
  50 2013-12-06 00:15:26 <phantomcircuit> lol
  51 2013-12-06 00:15:29 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|This took me by surprise, since your tags are signed
  52 2013-12-06 00:16:02 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|Do you know if there's a specific reason that RP suggests -a?
  53 2013-12-06 00:16:21 * gavinandresen wonders what git tag -a does....
  54 2013-12-06 00:16:37 <Luke-Jr> annotated tag, without signature
  55 2013-12-06 00:16:50 <Luke-Jr> default tag is just a ref to the commit (no tag object)
  56 2013-12-06 00:16:50 <gavinandresen> I think release-process is wrong, we git tag -s   release candidates/releases
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  58 2013-12-06 00:17:22 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|gavinandresen: Yeah, that was what I thought too
  59 2013-12-06 00:17:40 <Luke-Jr> hrm, test_bitcoin does work if I build everything, so I guess it really is an autotools issue after all
  60 2013-12-06 00:17:55 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|(I noticed it when I saw that wumpus didn't sign his 0.8.6rc1 tag)
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  64 2013-12-06 00:22:30 <Luke-Jr> ah, found my test_bitcoin issue
  65 2013-12-06 00:22:38 <Luke-Jr> was running an old one in src :/
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  69 2013-12-06 00:26:06 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|gavinandresen: Do you want to change it, or should I PR?
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  71 2013-12-06 00:26:28 <gavinandresen> michagogo|cloud: you should PR it
  72 2013-12-06 00:26:35 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|Coming right up.
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  74 2013-12-06 00:26:48 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|just s/-a/-s/, right?
  75 2013-12-06 00:27:26 <cfields> Luke-Jr: 'make check' should help avoid that
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  80 2013-12-06 00:29:48 <Luke-Jr> cfields: I'm actually writing a GNUmakefile to automate things ;)
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  84 2013-12-06 00:30:14 <Luke-Jr> woo, seems to work
  85 2013-12-06 00:30:24 <Luke-Jr> http://codepad.org/ymjMsean
  86 2013-12-06 00:30:36 <Luke-Jr> essentially the same as make check, but backward compatible with older branches
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  88 2013-12-06 00:33:03 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|gavinandresen: done
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  97 2013-12-06 00:43:40 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|Hey, could https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/738b8598aea6aa42d253d1520234809cd7c90471 perhaps get backported to 0.8.6?
  98 2013-12-06 00:43:43 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/3042)
  99 2013-12-06 00:45:04 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|It's stopping me from gitian-building 0.8.6rc1
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 101 2013-12-06 00:49:11 <gavinandresen> michagogo|cloud: not worth the time to backport, we should be starting the 0.9 release process in about a month.
 102 2013-12-06 00:49:48 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|Hmm, will it break anything if I just manually patch the deps yml?
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 104 2013-12-06 00:50:09 <gavinandresen> michagogo|cloud: probably not.  Go for it!
 105 2013-12-06 00:50:29 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|seems to be a simple enough patch
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 107 2013-12-06 00:50:34 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|Okay, I'll give it a try
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 134 2013-12-06 01:18:53 <gavinandresen> 0.8.6rc1 binaries ready for sanity testing:  https://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/bitcoin-0.8.6/test/
 135 2013-12-06 01:19:27 <gmaxwell> ACK.
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 137 2013-12-06 01:22:44 <gmaxwell> gavinandresen: your sha256sums.asc is loltastic.
 138 2013-12-06 01:22:44 <warren> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320695.0   Bitcoin OMG10 contains the same patches as 0.8.6rc1, plus Coin Control and Disable Wallet and a few other things vigorously tested in Litecoin.
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 142 2013-12-06 01:23:27 <gmaxwell> warren: can you please not promote that while we're trying to roll 0.8.6? :P I'd really rather you not divert testing attention from 0.8.6 right when we need it! :)
 143 2013-12-06 01:23:30 <gavinandresen> gmaxwell: thanks, I'll fix
 144 2013-12-06 01:24:03 <warren> gmaxwell: those patches are in 0.8.6rc1 because I've tested it with hundreds of users prior to merging ...
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 146 2013-12-06 01:24:17 <warren> gmaxwell: but fine
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 148 2013-12-06 01:25:03 <gavinandresen> gmaxwell: fixed
 149 2013-12-06 01:25:22 <warren> gavinandresen: I enjoyed the minimalism of the previous version.
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 151 2013-12-06 01:26:35 <gmaxwell> heh. zen checksums.
 152 2013-12-06 01:26:38 <gmaxwell> "Trust nothing"
 153 2013-12-06 01:26:44 <gmaxwell> gavinandresen: yea, good now.
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 165 2013-12-06 01:56:28 <warren> wumpus: the forum has one report of corruption after clean shutdown with these latest patches
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 167 2013-12-06 01:56:33 <warren> wumpus: I asked him to come here
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 188 2013-12-06 02:24:17 <BlueMattBot> Yippie, build fixed!
 189 2013-12-06 02:24:17 <BlueMattBot> Project Bitcoin build #496: FIXED in 46 min: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/job/Bitcoin/496/
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 191 2013-12-06 02:27:10 <phantomcircuit> warren, that include my patch?
 192 2013-12-06 02:27:15 <phantomcircuit> or the mmap fix patch
 193 2013-12-06 02:27:47 <warren> phantomcircuit: reporter claims your patch
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 195 2013-12-06 02:28:00 <phantomcircuit> interesting
 196 2013-12-06 02:28:21 <phantomcircuit> w/ or w/o the MANIFEST sync fix?
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 200 2013-12-06 02:31:14 <warren> phantomcircuit: with
 201 2013-12-06 02:31:22 <warren> phantomcircuit: he didn't provide any details, asked him to
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 203 2013-12-06 02:32:02 <warren> gamefixer: you need to register with nickserv in order to talk here
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 205 2013-12-06 02:32:29 <warren> gmaxwell: could you voice him?  he's corrupting with the latest leveldb patches apparently.
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 207 2013-12-06 02:34:15 <phantomcircuit> guess not
 208 2013-12-06 02:34:27 <phantomcircuit> gamefixer_, #bitcoin
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 210 2013-12-06 02:37:35 <warren> phantomcircuit: gamefixer , gamefixer_: I need to leave now to help with an emergency, bbl
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 216 2013-12-06 02:47:12 <gamefixer> now?
 217 2013-12-06 02:47:18 <gamefixer> yeah, it worked!
 218 2013-12-06 02:47:44 <ryan-c> hm
 219 2013-12-06 02:48:02 <ryan-c> didn't brainwallet.org used to support ssl?
 220 2013-12-06 02:48:35 <rescrv> gamefixer: can you upload a tarball of ~/.bitcoin/chainstate/ ?
 221 2013-12-06 02:49:11 <gamefixer> oh boy… bare with me… I will have to figure out how to do that.
 222 2013-12-06 02:49:19 <gamefixer> where am I uploading too?
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 225 2013-12-06 02:49:32 <rescrv> dropbox or similar
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 242 2013-12-06 03:10:17 <rescrv> gamefixer: check in ~/.bitcoin/chainstate/ ?
 243 2013-12-06 03:10:52 <gamefixer> can't find that directory
 244 2013-12-06 03:11:03 <gamefixer> I have hidden folders showing.
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 250 2013-12-06 03:15:28 <rescrv> gamefixer: can you search for a directory called "chainstate"?
 251 2013-12-06 03:15:39 <gamefixer> nope
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 255 2013-12-06 03:20:24 <gamefixer> this doesn't make sense. that directory HAS to be on this machine some where
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 258 2013-12-06 03:21:03 <rescrv> look for a file named CURRENT that'll be in that dir
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 261 2013-12-06 03:28:52 <toffoo> gamefixer: ~/Library/Application\ Support/Bitcoin
 262 2013-12-06 03:29:08 <gamefixer> its not there
 263 2013-12-06 03:29:14 <toffoo> gay Apple has ~/Library hidden from finder by default
 264 2013-12-06 03:29:49 <gamefixer> i found a "blocks" directory thats huge and has files like blk00000.dat in it
 265 2013-12-06 03:29:51 <gamefixer> I'm close
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 267 2013-12-06 03:30:52 <toffoo> you can type the following once at a Terminal and then Finder will show you ~/Library:
 268 2013-12-06 03:31:00 <toffoo>   /usr/bin/chflags nohidden ~/Library
 269 2013-12-06 03:31:04 <gamefixer> I have hidden folders/files showing
 270 2013-12-06 03:31:08 <gamefixer> I think I found ut
 271 2013-12-06 03:31:09 <gamefixer> it
 272 2013-12-06 03:31:58 <gamefixer> found it
 273 2013-12-06 03:33:21 <gamefixer> cant get into the chain state folder "you don't have permission"
 274 2013-12-06 03:33:54 <toffoo> crazy..maybe that's why it's "corrupted" for you?
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 277 2013-12-06 03:35:47 <rescrv> gamefixer: do you ahve the exact message you encountered that made you believe it was corrupt?
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 280 2013-12-06 03:36:50 <gamefixer> "error opening block database. Do you want to rebuild the block database now?"
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 282 2013-12-06 03:37:36 <gamefixer> trying to get into the application support directory to tarball that directory but terminal won't go into it
 283 2013-12-06 03:37:40 <gamefixer> this is odd
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 285 2013-12-06 03:39:52 <gamefixer> do I need to do something in terminal to allow it to go into a hidden directory? I already have show hidden directories turned on
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 287 2013-12-06 03:41:53 <gamefixer> i can browse into the library/application data folder in finder but can't get into that folder in terminal
 288 2013-12-06 03:42:22 <rescrv> gamefixer: then toffoo is likely right that you had a permissions issue that caused your error
 289 2013-12-06 03:42:29 <toffoo> type:  cd ~/Library/Application\ Support/Bitcoin
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 291 2013-12-06 03:43:25 <gamefixer> no such file or directory
 292 2013-12-06 03:43:33 <gamefixer> but I CAN see it and get into it in finder
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 294 2013-12-06 03:44:47 <toffoo> what is the exact folder path you're looking at in Finder?
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 296 2013-12-06 03:45:33 <toffoo> you can View -> Show Path Bar to see it at the bottom
 297 2013-12-06 03:45:49 <gamefixer> "/users/matt/library/Application Support/Bitcoin"
 298 2013-12-06 03:46:00 <gamefixer> thanks, didn't know about that "view" option
 299 2013-12-06 03:46:17 <toffoo> then you maybe you typed the command I gave you wrong
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 301 2013-12-06 03:46:21 <gamefixer> thats very helpful
 302 2013-12-06 03:46:27 <toffoo> because that's where it's supposed to be
 303 2013-12-06 03:46:45 <gamefixer> I copied what you sent me. copy/paste
 304 2013-12-06 03:46:50 <gamefixer> no typing
 305 2013-12-06 03:46:58 <gamefixer> I'lll try it again
 306 2013-12-06 03:47:33 <toffoo> maybe case sensitive?   cd ~/library/Application\ Support/Bitcoin
 307 2013-12-06 03:47:54 <gamefixer> tried that already
 308 2013-12-06 03:48:11 <toffoo> type this:   cd ~/library
 309 2013-12-06 03:48:33 <gamefixer> in
 310 2013-12-06 03:48:35 <gamefixer> library
 311 2013-12-06 03:48:54 <toffoo> now: cd Application\ Support
 312 2013-12-06 03:49:04 <gamefixer> ls shows that "Application Support" directory is in there
 313 2013-12-06 03:50:07 <gamefixer> the following command "cd ~/Application Support" claims that there is no such file or directory
 314 2013-12-06 03:50:18 <toffoo> you're typing it wrong
 315 2013-12-06 03:50:25 <gamefixer> ok
 316 2013-12-06 03:50:39 <toffoo> type exactly how I sent you
 317 2013-12-06 03:50:52 <gamefixer> I will try again
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 319 2013-12-06 03:51:51 <gamefixer> cd ~Library/Application\ Support/Bitcoin - gives me "no such file name or directory"
 320 2013-12-06 03:52:19 <toffoo> you're not typing exactly what I sent you.  if you're one character off it's not going to work
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 322 2013-12-06 03:52:23 <rescrv> cd ~/Library/Application\ Support/Bitcoin
 323 2013-12-06 03:52:32 <rescrv> note the "~" vs "~/"
 324 2013-12-06 03:53:38 <gamefixer> I've been copying and pasting what you guys have been sending me and for some reason what rescrv just sent me worked
 325 2013-12-06 03:53:46 <gamefixer> I'm in the directory
 326 2013-12-06 03:53:53 <gamefixer> :)
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 329 2013-12-06 03:55:00 <toffoo> now do:  cd chainstate
 330 2013-12-06 03:57:45 <gamefixer> won't let me in that folder. "permission denied"
 331 2013-12-06 03:58:04 <toffoo> ok..that's very strange
 332 2013-12-06 03:58:25 <gamefixer> I agree
 333 2013-12-06 03:58:27 <toffoo> I suspect you need to clear that up before you'll know whether you really have DB corruption or not
 334 2013-12-06 03:58:42 <toffoo> this is what I think you should do...
 335 2013-12-06 03:59:18 <gamefixer> fyi, the folder also has a red circle with a dash on it
 336 2013-12-06 03:59:38 <gamefixer> thanks for the help...
 337 2013-12-06 03:59:53 <toffoo> from the Terminal where you are, type:   mv chainstate chainstatebad
 338 2013-12-06 04:00:50 <gamefixer> permission denied
 339 2013-12-06 04:00:57 <toffoo> ok,
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 341 2013-12-06 04:01:17 <toffoo> is it possible that you ran Bitcoin-Qt under different user accounts on that machine
 342 2013-12-06 04:01:19 <toffoo> ?
 343 2013-12-06 04:01:25 <gamefixer> nope
 344 2013-12-06 04:01:35 <gamefixer> only one user account on this machine
 345 2013-12-06 04:01:36 <toffoo> or used to be an Administrator but not anymore?
 346 2013-12-06 04:01:42 <gamefixer> nope
 347 2013-12-06 04:01:52 <toffoo> ok, try this:
 348 2013-12-06 04:02:09 <toffoo> now type:  sudo mv chainstate chainstatebad
 349 2013-12-06 04:02:21 <toffoo> then it will prompt you to enter the Admin password
 350 2013-12-06 04:02:42 <gamefixer> that worked
 351 2013-12-06 04:02:47 <toffoo> ok,
 352 2013-12-06 04:03:01 <gamefixer> still can't get into "chainstatebad"
 353 2013-12-06 04:03:07 <toffoo> that's okay...
 354 2013-12-06 04:03:11 <gamefixer> k
 355 2013-12-06 04:03:13 <toffoo> now I think you should run:
 356 2013-12-06 04:03:26 <toffoo> (from where you are in the Terminal)
 357 2013-12-06 04:03:55 <gamefixer> ok
 358 2013-12-06 04:04:02 <toffoo>   /Applications/Bitcoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/Bitcoin-Qt -dbcache=1000 -reindex
 359 2013-12-06 04:04:03 <gamefixer> plugged in...
 360 2013-12-06 04:05:01 <gamefixer> bitcoinqt "error opening blockchain database" and closed
 361 2013-12-06 04:05:19 <toffoo> ok, gimme one sec .. have another idea for you...
 362 2013-12-06 04:05:23 <gamefixer> k
 363 2013-12-06 04:06:15 <gamefixer> not sure if I should have done this but I added "sudo" to the command you gave me and bitcoinqt is up and re-indexing
 364 2013-12-06 04:06:36 <gamefixer> 147 weeks behind...
 365 2013-12-06 04:08:49 <pigeons> yeah probably a lot better to sudop chown -R youruser:yourgroup ~/.bitcoin
 366 2013-12-06 04:09:18 <pigeons> then run as your user
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 369 2013-12-06 04:15:03 <toffoo> no, that command is the linux version
 370 2013-12-06 04:15:22 <toffoo> gamefixer ok, you got ahead of me here,
 371 2013-12-06 04:15:28 <gamefixer> sorry
 372 2013-12-06 04:15:28 <toffoo> that will probably work for the moment,
 373 2013-12-06 04:15:36 <toffoo> but won't resolve your issue
 374 2013-12-06 04:15:40 <gamefixer> hmm
 375 2013-12-06 04:15:40 <toffoo> permanently
 376 2013-12-06 04:16:23 <toffoo> in the Finder window, is the blocks folder also with a red circle?
 377 2013-12-06 04:16:57 <gamefixer> no
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 379 2013-12-06 04:18:09 <gamefixer> there is a folder inside the the blocks folder called "index" that has a red circle.
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 382 2013-12-06 04:18:54 <toffoo> ok, type this from where you are in the Terminal window:
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 384 2013-12-06 04:19:49 <toffoo>   sudo chown -R matt .
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 390 2013-12-06 04:25:41 <gamefixer> yes, red circles are gone.
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 392 2013-12-06 04:26:26 <toffoo> ok, now try to start Bitcoin-Qt the normal way from the icon
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 394 2013-12-06 04:26:40 <gamefixer> its in the middle of re-indexing...
 395 2013-12-06 04:26:48 <toffoo> ok, stop it there
 396 2013-12-06 04:26:58 <toffoo> and start it again from the icon
 397 2013-12-06 04:27:42 <rescrv> toffoo: do you do any special gui interaction that used to trigger corruption?
 398 2013-12-06 04:28:05 <toffoo> no
 399 2013-12-06 04:28:08 <gamefixer> not that I'm aware of. I would just hit the icon in my applications folder
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 401 2013-12-06 04:28:34 <toffoo> so far I've been corruption-free with the recent OMG7,8,9 builds
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 403 2013-12-06 04:28:52 <toffoo> before on the previous builds, it would generally happen upon restart
 404 2013-12-06 04:28:56 <gamefixer> "error opening block database. Do you want to rebuild the block database now?"
 405 2013-12-06 04:29:09 <toffoo> say yes
 406 2013-12-06 04:29:14 <gamefixer> ok
 407 2013-12-06 04:29:25 <gamefixer> re-indexing
 408 2013-12-06 04:29:32 <toffoo> ok that's good
 409 2013-12-06 04:29:37 <gamefixer> 202 weeks to go.
 410 2013-12-06 04:30:00 <toffoo> ok let us know in 3-4 hours how it turns out for you   ;D
 411 2013-12-06 04:30:19 <toffoo> this is with the OMG9 binary you are using now?
 412 2013-12-06 04:32:10 <gamefixer> yes, OMG9 Binary
 413 2013-12-06 04:32:35 <gamefixer> 120 weeks to go.
 414 2013-12-06 04:32:48 <toffoo> ok, I suspect you should be good now ... most likely it was some weird file permissions issue rather than actual DB corruption
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 416 2013-12-06 04:33:38 <gamefixer> will the file permissions stay in place after a re-boot or will I need to punch that into terminal everytime?
 417 2013-12-06 04:33:56 <toffoo> it should stay in place now, unless something really weird is happening
 418 2013-12-06 04:34:21 <gamefixer> ok, thanks again for the help. I'm going to let it go and see if it fixes itself.
 419 2013-12-06 04:34:29 <toffoo> when it finishes indexing, close and try to restart.
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 421 2013-12-06 04:34:35 <gamefixer> ok
 422 2013-12-06 04:34:36 <toffoo> then close again, reboot, and restart
 423 2013-12-06 04:34:39 <gamefixer> ok
 424 2013-12-06 04:34:53 <toffoo> if all is good after that with no errors, I think you'll be good
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 426 2013-12-06 04:36:26 <gamefixer> that would be great! Thanks for the help
 427 2013-12-06 04:36:38 <toffoo> np good luck
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 477 2013-12-06 05:38:30 <abishek> is there an event mechanism on the bitcoin daemon that can notify any transactions received or coins received?
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 479 2013-12-06 05:39:12 <kjj> like -walletnotify and -blocknotify?
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 482 2013-12-06 05:43:57 <kjj> you are encouraged to read up on them.  in particular, this thread:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269886.0
 483 2013-12-06 05:46:07 <weex> abishek: you can also check out pynode if you're looking to watch live transactions by modifying python
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 579 2013-12-06 08:16:40 <jouke> What key is used to sign the 8.6rc1 checksums?
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 581 2013-12-06 08:18:20 <gmaxwell> jouke: gavin's code signing key.
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 583 2013-12-06 08:18:27 <jouke> gmaxwell: have you checked it?
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 586 2013-12-06 08:19:44 <jouke> I believe I have Gavin in my keyring, but the checksums don't seem to be signed by that key.
 587 2013-12-06 08:20:08 <gmaxwell> jouke: I checked the signature yes, the key I haven't had an oppturnity to personally verify, but the key has been signed by luke and gavins main key.
 588 2013-12-06 08:20:16 <gmaxwell> jouke: gavin has a seperate code signing key
 589 2013-12-06 08:20:31 <jouke> I have the key that signed 8.5
 590 2013-12-06 08:20:48 <jouke> (on sourceforge)
 591 2013-12-06 08:21:09 <gmaxwell> lets see...
 592 2013-12-06 08:21:31 <gmaxwell> gpg: Signature made Thu 12 Sep 2013 05:27:02 PM PDT using RSA key ID 1FC730C1
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 595 2013-12-06 08:22:02 <gmaxwell> gpg: Signature made Thu 05 Dec 2013 05:20:56 PM PST using RSA key ID 7BF6E212
 596 2013-12-06 08:22:05 <warren> did gamefixer upload his chainstate?
 597 2013-12-06 08:22:05 <gmaxwell> interesting.
 598 2013-12-06 08:22:42 <gmaxwell> jouke: there are two subkeys on the same master key.
 599 2013-12-06 08:22:50 <gmaxwell> sub   4096R/8E30B3ED 2011-12-15
 600 2013-12-06 08:22:50 <gmaxwell> sig          1FC730C1 2011-12-15  Gavin Andresen (CODE SIGNING KEY) <gavinandresen@gmail.com>
 601 2013-12-06 08:22:53 <gmaxwell> sub   4096R/7BF6E212 2013-11-01
 602 2013-12-06 08:22:56 <gmaxwell> sig          1FC730C1 2013-11-01  Gavin Andresen (CODE SIGNING KEY) <gavinandresen@gmail.com>
 603 2013-12-06 08:23:17 <gmaxwell> and the master key is 4096R/1FC730C1
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 605 2013-12-06 08:23:27 <gmaxwell> jouke: so I think you just don't have the subkeys.
 606 2013-12-06 08:23:41 <jouke> gmaxwell: Hmm, ok. I couldn't find the key on any keyserver, but I'll look again.
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 708 2013-12-06 09:13:46 <toffoo> warren I think gamefixer's issue was with file permissions, not corruption
 709 2013-12-06 09:13:57 <warren> toffoo: oh, thank goodness.
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 818 2013-12-06 11:07:37 <imton> guys, I am getting BitcoinClient::Errors::RPCError: {"code"=>-22, "message"=>"Previous output scriptPubKey mismatch:\nOP_DUP OP_HASH160 ce3236ecdca8b09369143b7fe72a4916ff0ce68f OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG\nvs:\n[error]"}
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 826 2013-12-06 11:28:26 <Happzz> testnet cons to mi6TRsqpzFsekW87rQ3v8m21Kwey75Qhum please. 1 tx of any mount should do.
 827 2013-12-06 11:28:41 <Happzz> put some fee so it'll confirm asap
 828 2013-12-06 11:28:47 <Happzz> thanks ahead.
 829 2013-12-06 11:29:45 <Happzz> if you remember that faucet from like 2 days ago, i'd appreciate if you remind of the url since i lost it
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 838 2013-12-06 11:41:59 <pigeons> Happzz: http://testnet.mojocoin.com/
 839 2013-12-06 11:42:09 <runeks> Happzz: http://tpfaucet.appspot.com/ has worked well for me in the past.
 840 2013-12-06 11:42:17 <runeks> Rmember to return the coins when done.
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 861 2013-12-06 12:20:18 <ecurrency> can somebody take a look at my bitcoind log and help me figure out why it keeps crashing? http://www.pastebay.net/1368958 ?
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 863 2013-12-06 12:22:14 <ecurrency> somebody? Anybody?
 864 2013-12-06 12:22:27 <sipa> how does it crash?
 865 2013-12-06 12:22:49 <ecurrency> Hi, well when I return, it's just not running any more...
 866 2013-12-06 12:23:01 <ecurrency> I don't know what the last lines of the log are telling me
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 875 2013-12-06 12:25:55 <ecurrency> it's running on a hosted server... ubuntu 12.04
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 878 2013-12-06 12:27:16 <ecurrency> :(
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 882 2013-12-06 12:32:24 <ecurrency> Maybe somebody can tell me the recommended set up? You now, whats the recommended OS. I don't think it's the hosting company because the same thing happens at two different hosting companies... maybe it's ubuntu 24.xx ?? thats the only version I've tried
 883 2013-12-06 12:33:37 <pigeons> I don't think that platform is a problem as far as I know
 884 2013-12-06 12:33:40 <ecurrency> look what I just got on my screen!
 885 2013-12-06 12:33:41 <ecurrency> ************************
 886 2013-12-06 12:33:41 <ecurrency> EXCEPTION: 11DbException
 887 2013-12-06 12:33:41 <ecurrency> Db::put: Cannot allocate memory
 888 2013-12-06 12:33:41 <ecurrency> bitcoin in ProcessMessage()
 889 2013-12-06 12:33:45 <ecurrency> what does that mean?
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 891 2013-12-06 12:34:04 <Mikalv> you're out of memory
 892 2013-12-06 12:34:05 <pigeons> how much RAM does the box have?
 893 2013-12-06 12:34:18 <ecurrency> 2 gb I think
 894 2013-12-06 12:34:50 <pigeons> maybe setup some swap. are you running other memory intensive processes?
 895 2013-12-06 12:35:12 <Mikalv> this usually happens when you run coind on a machine with too little memory available
 896 2013-12-06 12:35:18 <ecurrency> I just did ulimit -v and got "unlimited"
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 898 2013-12-06 12:36:04 <ecurrency> Im only running bitcoind
 899 2013-12-06 12:36:34 <pigeons> I'll PM you to walk through setting up some swap
 900 2013-12-06 12:36:42 <ecurrency> thank you
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 947 2013-12-06 13:30:49 <wumpus> "A BIP editor must subscribe to the gmaxwell@gmail.com list."
 948 2013-12-06 13:30:51 <wumpus> ehh
 949 2013-12-06 13:33:37 <kinlo> narcism? :)
 950 2013-12-06 13:35:17 <wumpus> I'm trying to update BIP-0001 to be in tune with the new process with github instead of the wiki, but this makes me wonder if anyone ever actually reads BIP-0001 :)
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 967 2013-12-06 14:01:10 <kinlo> wumpus: I guess nobody does, but nevertheless, your work is important ;)
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 970 2013-12-06 14:08:14 <arcke> are there any clients that enable passphrases on wallets?
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 972 2013-12-06 14:09:54 <arcke> a serious browser leak could mean instant loss of funds in the current scenario
 973 2013-12-06 14:11:27 <freewil> arcke, just about every client allows a wallet passphrase including bitcoind/bitcoin-qt
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 976 2013-12-06 14:12:51 <arcke> freewil: i must have missed this, even bitcoind is supposed to have it
 977 2013-12-06 14:14:13 <arcke> encryptwallet - nice
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 980 2013-12-06 14:20:50 <Luke-Jr> compat.h:64:18: error: conflicting types for '_snwprintf'
 981 2013-12-06 14:20:52 <Luke-Jr>  #define swprintf _snwprintf
 982 2013-12-06 14:20:53 <Luke-Jr> wtf?
 983 2013-12-06 14:21:07 <Luke-Jr> am I asleep? shouldn't that define swprintf, not change type of _snwprintf?
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1000 2013-12-06 14:38:40 <wumpus> what is snwprintf anyway?
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1002 2013-12-06 14:39:38 <sipa> snprintf for wide characters?
1003 2013-12-06 14:39:55 <kinlo> fixed size swprintf? :p
1004 2013-12-06 14:40:39 <wumpus> this family of printf functions is getting crazier and crazier
1005 2013-12-06 14:40:59 <sipa> snprintf is pretty standard, no?
1006 2013-12-06 14:41:10 <wumpus> I'd like my printf with fries, please
1007 2013-12-06 14:41:14 <kinlo> yes
1008 2013-12-06 14:41:36 <wumpus> yes, the base snprintf is
1009 2013-12-06 14:42:21 <sipa> well, there is wide or not, varargs or not, to a string or not, and with and known output buffer size or not
1010 2013-12-06 14:42:28 <wumpus> exactly my point
1011 2013-12-06 14:42:30 <sipa> sounds like 12 combinations
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1013 2013-12-06 14:42:50 <wumpus> it's exponential!
1014 2013-12-06 14:44:05 <freewil> lol
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1016 2013-12-06 14:46:09 <ThomasZ> just use QString :D
1017 2013-12-06 14:49:03 <AdrianG> hi guise
1018 2013-12-06 14:49:08 <AdrianG> anyone read that hebrew university paper
1019 2013-12-06 14:49:15 <AdrianG> on speeding up txns w/o security loss?
1020 2013-12-06 14:49:25 <AdrianG> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=359582.0;all
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1026 2013-12-06 15:01:14 <stonecoldpat> its on the list
1027 2013-12-06 15:01:37 <stonecoldpat> but from the summary - i dont think blocks should be created that fast
1028 2013-12-06 15:02:17 <stonecoldpat> one of the features i liked about bitcoin was that verifiying was an investment of time
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1032 2013-12-06 15:09:37 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: swprintf is like snprintf, unless you're Microsoft
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1092 2013-12-06 16:16:18 <cayspekko> Hello everyone. I have a question.  While a block is being hashed, is the hash of the previous block included?
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1094 2013-12-06 16:18:43 <stonecoldpat> yes
1095 2013-12-06 16:19:09 <stonecoldpat> a block contains: id of previous block (its hash), timestamp, nounce (that is changed to solve the puzle) and a merkle tree root that represents all transactions in the block
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1098 2013-12-06 16:22:39 <sipa> ;;google bitcoin block hash site:bitcoin.it
1099 2013-12-06 16:22:40 <gribble> Block hashing algorithm - Bitcoin: <https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Block_hashing_algorithm>; Protocol specification - Bitcoin: <http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/protocol_specification>; How bitcoin works - Bitcoin: <https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/How_bitcoin_works>
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1176 2013-12-06 17:22:56 <stonecoldpat> guys, when using the api to createrawtransaction - is the method to give a transaction fee to make the output less than the input
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1179 2013-12-06 17:23:27 <stonecoldpat> so if my input had 0.01 bitcoins, then my output i send someone 0.005 bitcoins, then 0.005 can be claimed by the miners?
1180 2013-12-06 17:23:44 <stonecoldpat> (because ive signed the input)
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1191 2013-12-06 17:30:15 <Apocalyptic> stonecoldpat, the tx fee will be inputs - outputs yes
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1197 2013-12-06 17:35:28 <shhh> is converting a compressed public key to an address different to converting an uncompressed one ?!
1198 2013-12-06 17:35:42 <kjj> no, same process
1199 2013-12-06 17:35:52 <TD> the address would be different for compressed vs uncompressed yes
1200 2013-12-06 17:36:00 <shhh> i get the wrong result if i do the same as for an uncompressed one
1201 2013-12-06 17:36:30 <shhh> if i compare to brainwallet.org stuff my conversion from public to address is wrong in case of a compressed one
1202 2013-12-06 17:36:38 <kjj> are you starting from a properly formed compressed pubkey?
1203 2013-12-06 17:36:50 <kjj> or do you have a full point (x,y) that needs to be encoded then hashed?
1204 2013-12-06 17:36:57 <stonecoldpat> address is a hash of the public key essentially - and compressed / uncompressed are different in length (although represent the same co-ordinate)
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1206 2013-12-06 17:37:32 <shhh> my public key looks well formed (half the length of an uncompressed one)
1207 2013-12-06 17:37:48 <stonecoldpat> i assume you have the authority to use both addreesses, but i think its easier just using compressed versions
1208 2013-12-06 17:37:52 <kjj> is the initial byte set correctly?
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1210 2013-12-06 17:38:00 <shhh> yeah set to zero
1211 2013-12-06 17:38:00 <stonecoldpat> it should be either 02 or 03 in hex
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1213 2013-12-06 17:38:19 <shhh> public key is correct, if i compare to brainwallet
1214 2013-12-06 17:38:55 <kjj> maybe you should tell us about the whole process
1215 2013-12-06 17:39:50 <kjj> I'll tell you the process to go from bits to address on the compressed side...
1216 2013-12-06 17:39:56 <shhh> i take for example 0378d430274f8c5ec1321338151e9f27f4c676a008bdf8638d07c0b6be9ab35c71   sha256 it, ripemd160 it and put a 0 infront
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1218 2013-12-06 17:40:03 <shhh> then i base58check it
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1221 2013-12-06 17:40:32 <shhh> however i end up with a different address compared to brainwallet.org
1222 2013-12-06 17:40:47 <shhh> 0378d430274f8c5ec1321338151e9f27f4c676a008bdf8638d07c0b6be9ab35c71 = compressed "correct horse battery staple"
1223 2013-12-06 17:40:52 <kjj> I'm not familiar with that site.
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1225 2013-12-06 17:40:59 <shhh> http://brainwallet.org/#generator
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1228 2013-12-06 17:41:22 <kjj> do you provide it with the encoded pubkey and it returns the address?
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1230 2013-12-06 17:41:53 <kjj> or do you provide it with the privkey, or some means to generate the privkey?
1231 2013-12-06 17:42:10 <shhh> i have written code to do alle the site does and it works fine, besides the last step
1232 2013-12-06 17:42:44 <shhh> i test with the same priv keys and can produce everything correctly, but fail converting the last public key to an address in my code
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1234 2013-12-06 17:44:43 <kjj> I get 1C7zdTfnkzmr13HfA2vNm5SJYRK6nEKyq8
1235 2013-12-06 17:45:24 <shhh> and i get something else its dring me nuts ;)
1236 2013-12-06 17:45:27 <shhh> driving even
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1241 2013-12-06 17:46:15 <kjj> do you have the intermediate steps?
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1244 2013-12-06 17:46:36 <kjj> sha256 is b57443645468e05a15302932b06b05e0580fa00ba5f5e60499c5c7e7d9c7f50e
1245 2013-12-06 17:46:37 <shhh> sha and ripe ?
1246 2013-12-06 17:46:43 <kjj> ripe is 79fbfc3f34e7745860d76137da68f362380c606c
1247 2013-12-06 17:49:37 <shhh> i am such an IDIOT ...
1248 2013-12-06 17:50:05 <shhh> for compressed i did the sha256 with a len of "PUBLIC_KEY_SIZE/2"
1249 2013-12-06 17:50:32 <shhh> its actually ((PUBLIC_KEY_SIZE-1)/2)+1
1250 2013-12-06 17:50:46 <shhh> as my macro already included the prefix byte
1251 2013-12-06 17:51:20 <shhh> works fine now, ty
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1276 2013-12-06 18:16:46 <abishek> Is there an event mechanism in bitcoind that can notify in some way the changes in blocks or transactions or when money is received?
1277 2013-12-06 18:18:22 <gmaxwell> Blocknotify.
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1283 2013-12-06 18:22:33 <kjj> gmaxwell: I answered him in detail about 12 hours ago
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1333 2013-12-06 19:11:15 <beethoven8201> MagicalTux: is there an order loop on gox again?
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1336 2013-12-06 19:13:15 <kjj> doesn't look like it
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1338 2013-12-06 19:15:17 <hno> beethoven8201, yes.
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1344 2013-12-06 19:20:50 <phantomcircuit> beethoven8201, iirc they replay some of the trade data in certain events
1345 2013-12-06 19:21:23 <phantomcircuit> which if done correctly can actually be a good idea
1346 2013-12-06 19:21:30 <phantomcircuit> iirc each message has a timestamp
1347 2013-12-06 19:21:36 <phantomcircuit> so you should be able to reconcile them
1348 2013-12-06 19:21:54 <phantomcircuit> but i haven't seen any publicaly available code to actually do that
1349 2013-12-06 19:22:17 <beethoven8201> yeah
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1362 2013-12-06 19:32:04 <gmaxwell> FWIW, we're now starting to get OOM reports on x86_64 too. These apparently due to the same trigger case of VM OOM on x86, but instead of running out of VM they're just running 2gb hosts without swap out of actual memory.
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1364 2013-12-06 19:33:49 <Luke-Jr> https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-24889 <-- anyone know how to answer this?
1365 2013-12-06 19:34:16 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: Linux is insane buggy for OOM conditions, without swap >= RAM
1366 2013-12-06 19:34:26 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: it will OOM even if there's plenty of RAM free
1367 2013-12-06 19:35:13 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: in the cases I'm seeing reported bitcoin really is using on the order of 2GB memory, so even if OOM killer is moronic, it's going to be problematic for some hosts.
1368 2013-12-06 19:35:24 <Luke-Jr> perhaps
1369 2013-12-06 19:35:28 <Luke-Jr> but that's probably just during IBD?
1370 2013-12-06 19:35:39 <gmaxwell> I don't think its reasonable for us to spike to 2GB when our nominal usage is 400MB.
1371 2013-12-06 19:35:41 <Luke-Jr> with lots of orphan blocks
1372 2013-12-06 19:35:45 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: yes thats the trigger case.
1373 2013-12-06 19:35:54 <Luke-Jr> that's not too surprising
1374 2013-12-06 19:36:12 <Luke-Jr> there's some condition I've seen where it downloads from recent to oldest after something
1375 2013-12-06 19:36:27 <Luke-Jr> which means essentially all the blockchain gets shoved into orphan block RAM
1376 2013-12-06 19:36:45 <Luke-Jr> headers first will fix that I imagine
1377 2013-12-06 19:36:55 <warren> gmaxwell: what is growing so large?
1378 2013-12-06 19:37:07 <gmaxwell> yea, I know the case. it's not news to me. I guess what is slightly news to me is that it's also a problem on x86_64 hosts that don't have gobs of memory.
1379 2013-12-06 19:37:34 <gmaxwell> warren: its a result of orphan blocks being stored in memory when 11:32 < Luke-Jr> there's some condition I've seen where it downloads from recent to oldest after something
1380 2013-12-06 19:37:37 <warren> gmaxwell: does the process-one-thing-at-a-time thing help?
1381 2013-12-06 19:37:42 <gmaxwell> the after something is after a new block shows up on the network.
1382 2013-12-06 19:37:43 <gmaxwell> warren: no.
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1388 2013-12-06 19:39:53 <gmaxwell> an obvious workaround doesn't work— making it just ignore announcements when its trying to ibd. ... because we need those to unwedge it if a peer goes away.
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1391 2013-12-06 19:41:07 <warren> IBD is the only time this OOM happens?
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1393 2013-12-06 19:42:07 <warren> hmm, one of the gitian deps ...
1394 2013-12-06 19:42:08 <warren> Resolving www.openssl.org (www.openssl.org)... failed: Name or service not known.
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1396 2013-12-06 19:42:33 <warren> openssl.org seems to be owned by a squatter now?
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1398 2013-12-06 19:44:44 <warren> uh... openssl.org is either a domain squatter or down
1399 2013-12-06 19:44:52 <warren> depeding on where you try to reach it from
1400 2013-12-06 19:45:24 <kjj> expires in 2015, last updated 2011
1401 2013-12-06 19:46:17 <warren> are you seeing actual openssl home page?
1402 2013-12-06 19:46:20 <warren> I see a domain squatter
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1404 2013-12-06 19:47:30 <kjj> I'm seeing the WHOIS data
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1410 2013-12-06 19:49:44 <warren> www.openssl.org is a domain squatter right now
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1418 2013-12-06 19:55:48 <ryan-c> http://www.coindesk.com/core-developer-bitcoin-node-space/ < I hope jgarzik uses fountian codes for this
1419 2013-12-06 19:56:08 <andytoshi> warren: just looks to be down to me
1420 2013-12-06 19:56:13 <andytoshi> with or without tor
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1425 2013-12-06 19:58:20 <toshiba2211> guys, i'm running ./bitcoind -testnet to connect to test net - but when I do an RPC command like getpeerinfo it says I cannot connect to the server?A
1426 2013-12-06 19:58:39 <ryan-c> toshiba2211: do you have a port specified in the config file?
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1428 2013-12-06 19:59:04 <ryan-c> also what's your RPC client?
1429 2013-12-06 19:59:07 <toshiba2211> i haven't modified the config file, i did try /bitcoind -testnet -port=18333 as well
1430 2013-12-06 19:59:12 <toshiba2211> its bitcoind
1431 2013-12-06 19:59:20 <andytoshi> toshiba2211: you need to specify -testnet on every command
1432 2013-12-06 19:59:20 <ryan-c> linux?
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1434 2013-12-06 19:59:28 <toshiba2211> mac
1435 2013-12-06 19:59:30 <ryan-c> okay
1436 2013-12-06 19:59:41 <toshiba2211> ahh
1437 2013-12-06 19:59:45 <ryan-c> and yeah, you do need so specify -testnet for running rpc commands as well
1438 2013-12-06 19:59:47 <toshiba2211> andytoshi: thank you that seems to have worked
1439 2013-12-06 19:59:55 <toshiba2211> haha sorry i just assumed it would know
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1441 2013-12-06 19:59:59 <ryan-c> nope
1442 2013-12-06 20:00:16 <andytoshi> toshiba2211: you can run bitcoind and bitcoind -testnet at the same time
1443 2013-12-06 20:00:24 * ryan-c runs both
1444 2013-12-06 20:00:47 <ryan-c> toshiba2211: you might want to do something like alias tbitcoind='bitcoind -testnet'
1445 2013-12-06 20:01:09 <ryan-c> you can also specify testnet in the config file if you're not going to run mainnet on that computer
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1448 2013-12-06 20:02:22 <toshiba2211> thank you, i think ill deco use the alias
1449 2013-12-06 20:02:34 <toshiba2211> typing -testnet all the time is quite a bit of effort
1450 2013-12-06 20:02:44 <ryan-c> do you need any testnet coins?
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1452 2013-12-06 20:02:58 <toshiba2211> I'm on the tpfaucet now
1453 2013-12-06 20:03:03 <toshiba2211> getting an account for it
1454 2013-12-06 20:03:09 <ryan-c> i can just send you some
1455 2013-12-06 20:03:32 <toshiba2211> if you could that would be awesome, i only need like 2
1456 2013-12-06 20:03:33 <toshiba2211> lol
1457 2013-12-06 20:03:39 <ryan-c> address?
1458 2013-12-06 20:03:40 <toshiba2211> i assume the transaction fee is still 0.0001
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1460 2013-12-06 20:04:17 <toshiba2211> mpJrNCVP7AMo2PLTUpzr8PxWT7sG8YC1aw
1461 2013-12-06 20:04:24 <toshiba2211> thanks ryan! :)
1462 2013-12-06 20:04:38 <ryan-c> sent
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1466 2013-12-06 20:08:20 <osmosis> how come some testnet private keys start with a 5, and others start with a 9, and what is wallet import format?
1467 2013-12-06 20:10:18 <toshiba2211> i *think* its to distinguish them as network private keys
1468 2013-12-06 20:10:30 <toshiba2211> not that you could use them on the main network or not - but just to identify them
1469 2013-12-06 20:10:42 <toshiba2211> test net private keys* not network
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1473 2013-12-06 20:12:41 <osmosis> so main net priv keys start with 5, and testnet priv keys start with 9
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1475 2013-12-06 20:14:50 <cayspekko> unless they are compressed then they start with L or K
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1477 2013-12-06 20:15:22 <ryan-c> osmosis: there's a "version" byte used to specify the purpose of a base58check encoded value
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1480 2013-12-06 20:15:44 <ryan-c> this is so you don't import the wrong thing
1481 2013-12-06 20:15:46 <ryan-c> oh, he left
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1484 2013-12-06 20:18:09 <ryan-c> someone's making a bunch of weird testnet transactions
1485 2013-12-06 20:18:13 <ryan-c> http://blockexplorer.com/testnet/tx/2c26a8ce53baddf0b401ab2dcf59af9720a93bd277d7ed48142f2e8f6bc41608#i4334928
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1489 2013-12-06 20:19:36 <toshiba2211> yes sir, bit of a weird script... just checking if the hash is correct (and not the signature)
1490 2013-12-06 20:19:40 <toshiba2211> surely that is vulnerable?
1491 2013-12-06 20:19:46 <ryan-c> well
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1494 2013-12-06 20:20:01 <ryan-c> someone can see your transaction and try to double spend
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1498 2013-12-06 20:23:15 <toshiba2211> Yeah I guess so - since the signature isn't actually checked
1499 2013-12-06 20:23:29 <toshiba2211> you just need to change the output to something else
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1501 2013-12-06 20:24:01 <ryan-c> It looks like they're redeeming with superfluous data.
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1504 2013-12-06 20:36:11 <ryan-c> yeah, so there's four items on the scriptsig stack
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1506 2013-12-06 20:36:32 <ryan-c> the hash160'd value isn't an address
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1508 2013-12-06 20:36:43 <shesek> It's a payment to p2sh (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0016#Specification)
1509 2013-12-06 20:36:55 <ryan-c> oh, derp
1510 2013-12-06 20:36:55 <shesek> and redeemed as a multisig (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0011#Specification)
1511 2013-12-06 20:37:05 <ryan-c> that makes sense
1512 2013-12-06 20:37:25 <shesek> maybe its someone playing with my project :)
1513 2013-12-06 20:37:30 <ryan-c> i guess i was expecting blockexplorer to know about multisig
1514 2013-12-06 20:37:34 <shesek> (bitrated)
1515 2013-12-06 20:37:35 <ryan-c> shesek: which project?
1516 2013-12-06 20:37:37 <ryan-c> ah
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1518 2013-12-06 20:37:56 <ryan-c> i commented on hackernews about allowing multiple arbitrators
1519 2013-12-06 20:38:13 <ryan-c> (under the same nick)
1520 2013-12-06 20:38:32 <shesek> with the 5-of-8 idea?
1521 2013-12-06 20:38:37 <ryan-c> yeah
1522 2013-12-06 20:38:52 <shesek> oh cool :)
1523 2013-12-06 20:39:12 <ryan-c> I'd missed the "three pubkey max" memo for multisig
1524 2013-12-06 20:40:05 <ryan-c> I'm kinda frustrated by the disabled opcodes
1525 2013-12-06 20:40:16 <ryan-c> OP_CAT would be useful for a number of things
1526 2013-12-06 20:40:32 <shesek> you could also do this in another way tho, with a regular 2-of-3 and secret sharing
1527 2013-12-06 20:40:39 <ryan-c> and maybe OP_SUBSTR
1528 2013-12-06 20:41:12 <ryan-c> shesek: https://github.com/ryancdotorg/threshcrypt
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1530 2013-12-06 20:41:58 <ryan-c> shesek: server generated arbitrator key split with shamir's scheme, then encrypt each piece to an arbitrator?
1531 2013-12-06 20:41:59 <shesek> so that the arbitrator would have a single private key, splitted to n parts and requires t pieces to create the private key, using something like ssss
1532 2013-12-06 20:42:20 <ryan-c> then server delegated signing
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1534 2013-12-06 20:44:13 <shesek> yeah, something like that. I wonder if its somehow possible to do that without a trusted party to generate the private key and distribute the shares
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1536 2013-12-06 20:44:48 <ryan-c> shesek: I was talking about this with gmaxwell last night - he asserts that it's not possible with ECDSA
1537 2013-12-06 20:45:15 <shesek> somehow have each party give his public key, then generate another public key whose private key can be determined with all the original parties private key
1538 2013-12-06 20:45:24 <ryan-c> well, perhaps "not possible to do efficiently"
1539 2013-12-06 20:45:53 <ryan-c> shesek: do you know about point addition?
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1541 2013-12-06 20:46:24 <kjj> shesek: I'm pretty sure that is only possible if DLP is solved
1542 2013-12-06 20:46:35 <ryan-c> Bitcoin keys are additively homomorphic
1543 2013-12-06 20:46:36 <shesek> if all of that is going on off the blockchain, and all the network sees is one regular set of keys, it doesn't really have to be efficient
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1545 2013-12-06 20:46:40 <ryan-c> so
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1547 2013-12-06 20:47:00 <ryan-c> key1_pub + key2_pub :: key1_priv + key2_priv
1548 2013-12-06 20:47:04 <ryan-c> also
1549 2013-12-06 20:47:40 <ryan-c> key1_pub * key2_priv == key1_priv * key2_pub (i think this is how ECDH works)
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1552 2013-12-06 20:48:13 <shesek> so why is it not possible then?
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1554 2013-12-06 20:48:29 <ryan-c> shesek: because the signatures don't have that some homomorphism
1555 2013-12-06 20:48:33 <ryan-c> same
1556 2013-12-06 20:48:45 <ryan-c> (this is as far as my understanding goes)
1557 2013-12-06 20:49:19 <shesek> ah, I see. so you would still need a trusted party to derive the "master" private key and sign
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1559 2013-12-06 20:49:34 <shesek> which isn't really helping at all
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1561 2013-12-06 20:50:18 <nsh> also the union of cereal elves would never allow it
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1565 2013-12-06 20:52:00 <ryan-c> shesek: yeah
1566 2013-12-06 20:52:21 <ryan-c> shesek: if you figure out a clever way around it let me know though
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1568 2013-12-06 20:53:03 <ryan-c> the key1_pub * key2_priv == key1_priv * key2_pub thing is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic_curve_Diffie%E2%80%93Hellman
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1578 2013-12-06 20:57:49 <ryan-c> you can do diffie hellman with more than two parties easy enough
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1580 2013-12-06 20:58:01 <ryan-c> but that doesn't help
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1680 2013-12-06 22:06:38 <shamoon> where can i get a copy of the original v0.1 source code?
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1687 2013-12-06 22:10:03 <Emcy> http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg10142.html
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1697 2013-12-06 22:15:52 <andytoshi> shamoon: i don't think the 0.1 source is on sourceforge anymore
1698 2013-12-06 22:16:00 <shamoon> andytoshi: it's not
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1700 2013-12-06 22:16:04 <andytoshi> i had a copy about a year ago, so i'm sure it is drifting around..
1701 2013-12-06 22:16:08 <Gnaf> bitcoin-0.1.0 http://www.zorinaq.com/pub/
1702 2013-12-06 22:16:10 <andytoshi> i'll take a look for it but i think i lost it
1703 2013-12-06 22:16:15 <andytoshi> it's really really bad
1704 2013-12-06 22:16:23 <shamoon> thanks Gnaf andytoshi
1705 2013-12-06 22:16:32 <andytoshi> oh thx Gnaf
1706 2013-12-06 22:16:38 <andytoshi> i'll download that and make it available on my server too
1707 2013-12-06 22:16:43 <Gnaf> ;)
1708 2013-12-06 22:16:46 <gmaxwell> shamoon: it is, actually.
1709 2013-12-06 22:16:49 <kjj> isn't there a git tag for it?
1710 2013-12-06 22:16:50 <gmaxwell> just not as a download.
1711 2013-12-06 22:17:07 <gmaxwell> the original SVN repository is still on SF and the original versions are still in its history.
1712 2013-12-06 22:17:11 <shamoon> gmaxwell: then?
1713 2013-12-06 22:17:28 <shamoon> gmaxwell: got it
1714 2013-12-06 22:17:28 <shamoon> thanks
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1720 2013-12-06 22:21:58 <saracen> Anybody know if armory provides a command line interface?
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1761 2013-12-06 23:01:53 <shamoon> gavinandresen: when did your involvement with bitcoin start?
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1763 2013-12-06 23:02:01 <shamoon> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/8bd66202c324a6c7a79abc0f1f0558dacbc59460 - looks like this was your first commit
1764 2013-12-06 23:02:03 <shamoon> is that about right?
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1766 2013-12-06 23:02:49 <sipa> sounds possible
1767 2013-12-06 23:02:57 <sipa> it was somewhere in 2010 iirc
1768 2013-12-06 23:03:24 <shamoon> who is saracen?
1769 2013-12-06 23:03:49 <sipa> no idea
1770 2013-12-06 23:04:11 <shamoon> he was the only other developer
1771 2013-12-06 23:04:16 <shamoon> until gavinandresen came along it seems
1772 2013-12-06 23:04:22 <sipa> really?
1773 2013-12-06 23:04:34 <shamoon> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commits/master?page=135
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1775 2013-12-06 23:04:36 <sipa> what about sirius?
1776 2013-12-06 23:04:37 <shamoon> unless i'm mistaken
1777 2013-12-06 23:04:54 <saracen> shamoon: I'm saracen.
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1779 2013-12-06 23:04:58 <shamoon> not on github
1780 2013-12-06 23:05:05 <shamoon> sipa: i lied
1781 2013-12-06 23:05:11 <shamoon> i see sirius
1782 2013-12-06 23:05:13 <saracen> hmm?
1783 2013-12-06 23:05:14 <shamoon> saracen: nice to meet you
1784 2013-12-06 23:05:20 <saracen> Hi.
1785 2013-12-06 23:05:29 <saracen> Wait, am I still listed as a bitcoin developer?
1786 2013-12-06 23:05:40 <sipa> oh, was that that github bug?
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1788 2013-12-06 23:05:51 <fanquake> sipa Pretty sure it is.
1789 2013-12-06 23:05:53 <saracen> sipa: Yeah. Looking at contributors page though, and I'm no longer listed
1790 2013-12-06 23:05:59 <saracen> So figured github had fixed it
1791 2013-12-06 23:07:06 <saracen> shamoon: Did you see my name somewhere?
1792 2013-12-06 23:07:15 <shamoon> just the early commit logs saracen
1793 2013-12-06 23:07:21 <shamoon> writing a book
1794 2013-12-06 23:07:24 <fanquake> saracen https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commits/master?page=139
1795 2013-12-06 23:07:37 <saracen> Well. Make sure you add me to the book. I'm clearly satoshi.
1796 2013-12-06 23:07:45 <shamoon> haha
1797 2013-12-06 23:07:46 <shamoon> done
1798 2013-12-06 23:07:55 <saracen> ;)
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1800 2013-12-06 23:09:05 <saracen> Yup. Before satoshi developed bitcoin, all he did was write a few terrible lines of PHP.
1801 2013-12-06 23:09:32 <shamoon> i wouldn't be surprised
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1805 2013-12-06 23:10:24 <edcba> lol
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1807 2013-12-06 23:10:55 <chmod755> ;;eightball is saracen satoshi?
1808 2013-12-06 23:10:56 <gribble> I doubt it very much.
1809 2013-12-06 23:11:06 <chmod755> ;;eightball is chmod755 satoshi?
1810 2013-12-06 23:11:06 <gribble> The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
1811 2013-12-06 23:11:10 <chmod755> lol
1812 2013-12-06 23:11:10 <edcba> i think satoshi really like magic, at least magic constants :)
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1820 2013-12-06 23:20:49 <imton> hello guys.
1821 2013-12-06 23:21:06 <imton> why I am not getting "hex" in decoderawtransaction vout ?
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1823 2013-12-06 23:21:21 <imton> scriptPubKey , not signed yet
1824 2013-12-06 23:21:36 <imton> I get "asm" but not "hex"
1825 2013-12-06 23:22:04 <Cryo> where are the current docs on building bitcoin[-Qt] on osx that is being done for the release builds and the used compenents/OS/etc.  google and the /docs .md are far too optimistic for current OSX
1826 2013-12-06 23:22:35 <sipa> well for one the current release builds are done on 10.5 or so
1827 2013-12-06 23:23:56 <sipa> current git head has a completely rewritten build system, which should be more compatible
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1830 2013-12-06 23:25:01 <imton> sipa: do you know why I don't get "hex" in scriptPubKey?
1831 2013-12-06 23:25:02 <imton> https://gist.github.com/imton/b5081e83a8f3b8dff373
1832 2013-12-06 23:25:09 <imton> I am trying to sign it
1833 2013-12-06 23:25:23 <imton> btw. I i can't. I don't have the priv keys in the wallet.
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1839 2013-12-06 23:27:05 <sipa> unsure; should you?
1840 2013-12-06 23:27:53 <imton> well... I want to sign that tx.. how do I do it? (external priv keys)
1841 2013-12-06 23:27:57 <imton> I get multiple errors.
1842 2013-12-06 23:28:12 <imton> I want to pay to that multi sig address
1843 2013-12-06 23:28:15 <imton> (testnet)
1844 2013-12-06 23:28:19 MobiusL is now known as ReadMe
1845 2013-12-06 23:28:31 <sipa> but why would you need the txout's hex form for?
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1848 2013-12-06 23:29:08 <imton> sipa: signrawtransaction ?
1849 2013-12-06 23:29:12 <imton> scriptPubKey ?
1850 2013-12-06 23:29:19 <sipa> you need to pass the whole transaction to it
1851 2013-12-06 23:29:21 <kjj> itmon: you sign the hex string, the one that you put in to decoderawtransaction
1852 2013-12-06 23:29:23 <sipa> not just a txout
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1854 2013-12-06 23:29:57 <imton> mmm....
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1856 2013-12-06 23:30:01 <imton> what
1857 2013-12-06 23:30:16 <sipa> decoderawtransaction is for you to inspect it
1858 2013-12-06 23:30:20 <sipa> you don't need it
1859 2013-12-06 23:30:26 <imton> BITCOIND.api.request "signrawtransaction",  "0100000001cbdccb86cf52139dea76d2b9d4f25b29e9ff654fc09a0af85b27172b9700e9630000000000ffffffff0100f153650000000017a91445f85f694c0ef7f69b9d26cd9919364c73a5c91b8700000000", [{"txid" => "63e900972b17275bf80a9ac04f65ffe9295bf2d4b9d276ea9d1352cf86cbdccb", "vout" => 0, "scriptPubKey" =>  "WHAT DO I ENTER HERE"  }], ["91eUPeZiQsCRtm6DEKcwSp35DfxVkayvJ8YQJBYBK4fNaaxPfEcW"]
1860 2013-12-06 23:30:27 MobiusL is now known as ReadMe
1861 2013-12-06 23:30:40 <kjj> oooohhhh....
1862 2013-12-06 23:30:44 <imton> :( sorry
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1864 2013-12-06 23:31:08 <kjj> you that is the scriptpubkey from the input
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1868 2013-12-06 23:31:13 <sipa> you only need to provide those if you're signing things where bitcoind doesn't know the inputs already
1869 2013-12-06 23:31:33 <sipa> and if you're passing it, it's the scriptPubKey of the previous output you're spending
1870 2013-12-06 23:31:48 <imton> I don't think bitcoind knows it, I am using it as a watch only
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1872 2013-12-06 23:31:58 <sipa> that doesn't matter
1873 2013-12-06 23:32:04 <imton> ok
1874 2013-12-06 23:32:05 <sipa> it fetches it from the mempool
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1878 2013-12-06 23:32:14 <sipa> which usually will have those coins
1879 2013-12-06 23:32:20 <sipa> or the utxo set
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1881 2013-12-06 23:33:47 <imton> ok. so I just delete scriptpubkey?
1882 2013-12-06 23:34:10 <kjj> yes, either remove that key, or look it up and include it
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1885 2013-12-06 23:34:48 <imton> kjj: ok but isn't scriptPubKey stated int "Decoderawtransaction" vout?
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1887 2013-12-06 23:35:04 <sipa> no
1888 2013-12-06 23:35:16 <sipa> if it was, you wouldn't have to provide it
1889 2013-12-06 23:35:29 <imton> I see
1890 2013-12-06 23:35:29 <sipa> it's in the decoderawtransaction of the _previous_ transaction whose outputs you are consuming
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1892 2013-12-06 23:36:24 <imton> oh, let's see if I can get it
1893 2013-12-06 23:36:54 <sipa> you don't usually need to
1894 2013-12-06 23:37:12 <sipa> also, the txid/vout must match of course
1895 2013-12-06 23:37:23 <sipa> it's not the txid/vout of the transaction you're creating
1896 2013-12-06 23:37:25 <kjj> if you are going to be passing these to an offline computer, you'll need to fetch it by using the txid and vout of the input
1897 2013-12-06 23:37:35 <sipa> (its txid isn't even known yet, it changes by signing)
1898 2013-12-06 23:38:30 <kjj> sipa: this is easily the hardest part of explaining raw transactions to people.  someone needs to make a little graphic that explains it better
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1900 2013-12-06 23:39:27 <imton> yeah, I get that txid/vout match part (I think)
1901 2013-12-06 23:39:59 <sipa> you can get it using gettxout as well
1902 2013-12-06 23:40:19 <sipa> (which, if it works, means you didn't need to do it all, as bitcoind will search there for you)
1903 2013-12-06 23:40:26 <imton> check the decode raw tx of the prev tx I added here
1904 2013-12-06 23:40:27 <imton> https://gist.github.com/imton/b5081e83a8f3b8dff373
1905 2013-12-06 23:40:33 <imton> I can't get the scripPubKey hex
1906 2013-12-06 23:40:43 <sipa> i don't think you need the hex form
1907 2013-12-06 23:40:46 <imton> of the vout 0 , the one I am trying to get.
1908 2013-12-06 23:40:52 <imton> but shouldn't be there?
1909 2013-12-06 23:41:23 <sipa> i think you need the asm form
1910 2013-12-06 23:41:50 <imton> I've never seen a sample of signrawtx with the asm form
1911 2013-12-06 23:41:57 <imton> :(
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1917 2013-12-06 23:43:10 <gmaxwell> for signing you need the hex.
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1919 2013-12-06 23:43:38 <imton> code"=>-8, "message"=>"scriptPubKey must be hexadecimal string
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1921 2013-12-06 23:44:07 <sipa> it must be hex indeed
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1923 2013-12-06 23:44:11 <imton> gmaxwell: I'd like to understand why I don't get the hex in the decoderawtx ?
1924 2013-12-06 23:44:12 <sipa> sorry
1925 2013-12-06 23:44:18 <imton> sipa: np
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1927 2013-12-06 23:44:59 <gmaxwell> imton: I think that must have been broken in git recently or something, we certantly used to emit the hex. (see in the examples: https://people.xiph.org/~greg/escrowexample.txt )
1928 2013-12-06 23:45:26 <sipa> heh
1929 2013-12-06 23:45:26 <gmaxwell> I ran into that the other day myself but I just manually wrote the hex and forgot to look into it.
1930 2013-12-06 23:45:30 <imton> I am using bitcoind master from a week or so old
1931 2013-12-06 23:45:41 <sipa> it's indeed not outputting it
1932 2013-12-06 23:46:01 <gmaxwell> the hext is a914<hash160>87
1933 2013-12-06 23:46:04 <sipa> there's a flag includehex being passed to ScriptPubkeyToJSON
1934 2013-12-06 23:46:08 <gmaxwell> er s/hext/hex/
1935 2013-12-06 23:46:12 <sipa> but it's set to false in the call
1936 2013-12-06 23:46:18 <gmaxwell> How'd that happen?
1937 2013-12-06 23:46:41 <gmaxwell> man I thought I was crazy the other day but it was so easy to just work around it. :P
1938 2013-12-06 23:47:33 <gmaxwell> (er make sure you check my length there, that was from memory)
1939 2013-12-06 23:47:38 <sipa> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/be066fad7d2a8f95d50667262f255ce67f49b51a
1940 2013-12-06 23:47:53 <sipa> ^ broke it
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1942 2013-12-06 23:49:10 <imton> :)
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1945 2013-12-06 23:49:45 <sipa> the false in that call in TxToJSON should be true
1946 2013-12-06 23:49:54 <gmaxwell> aww. I reviewed that commit.
1947 2013-12-06 23:49:59 * gmaxwell puts on the dunces hat.
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1974 2013-12-06 23:58:24 <gmaxwell> sipa: are you submitting a pull or am I?
1975 2013-12-06 23:58:36 <sipa> you can