1 2013-12-14 00:00:24 <sipa> and if you need help with some altcoin, where the answer here is "that's something they broke" or "we fixed that problem 2 years ago", i couldn't care less
   2 2013-12-14 00:00:52 * Luke-Jr only uses 'scamcoins' when referring to those cases they are scams, and 'altcoins' for other cases.
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   4 2013-12-14 00:01:29 <sipa> well in any case, they're off topic here
   5 2013-12-14 00:01:34 <alex_fun> lol
   6 2013-12-14 00:01:37 <alex_fun> yep
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   8 2013-12-14 00:02:47 <alex_fun> sipa so u meant to delete everything copy blkindex.dat and blk0001.dat and then recompile and re add those two?
   9 2013-12-14 00:04:02 <sipa> we haven't had a blkindex.dat since 0.8
  10 2013-12-14 00:04:40 <alex_fun> yes
  11 2013-12-14 00:04:45 <alex_fun> its been improved alot
  12 2013-12-14 00:04:49 <alex_fun> I know :)
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  14 2013-12-14 00:17:11 <wiretapped> Luke-Jr: whats your opinion of dogecoin
  15 2013-12-14 00:17:23 <Luke-Jr> off-topic
  16 2013-12-14 00:19:18 <sipa> much off-topic, so wow
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  20 2013-12-14 00:27:26 <alex_fun> hahaha
  21 2013-12-14 00:27:42 <alex_fun> well  Luke comments attract certain people to him
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  95 2013-12-14 02:00:52 <Emcy> someone forked bitcoin and changed all the internal text to comic sans
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  97 2013-12-14 02:01:05 <Emcy> maybe that will be a motivator for you guys
  98 2013-12-14 02:01:09 <Emcy> or maybe not
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 121 2013-12-14 02:29:35 <BlueMatt> who has an onion seed I can connect to?
 122 2013-12-14 02:29:44 <BlueMatt> sipa/gmaxwell: ^ ?
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 128 2013-12-14 02:33:45 <gmaxwell> bitcoinfoec76drk.onion:8333 divd5kytbhwdcyae.onion:8333 fpt6orohw2nuf2kn.onion:8333 gb5ypqt63du3wfhn.onion kjy2eqzk4zwi5zd3.onion qtaio44l2wscnjvf.onion:8333 td7tgof3imei3fm6.onion:8333
 129 2013-12-14 02:35:33 <BlueMatt> hmm...so onions dont magically work in bitcoinj
 130 2013-12-14 02:35:43 <BlueMatt> but at least just regular connections over tor do
 131 2013-12-14 02:36:14 <netg> ich run one under: bitcoin2u5jnjzzz.onion
 132 2013-12-14 02:36:16 <gmaxwell> real bitcoin onion support requires explicit code for onion / v6 mapping.
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 134 2013-12-14 02:36:55 <BlueMatt> yea
 135 2013-12-14 02:37:31 <BlueMatt> but just blindly connecting to an onion fails too
 136 2013-12-14 02:38:15 <netg> why you need a seed
 137 2013-12-14 02:38:18 <netg> if u follow
 138 2013-12-14 02:38:20 <netg> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/tor.md#2-run-a-bitcoin-hidden-server
 139 2013-12-14 02:38:23 <netg> it auto connecs
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 143 2013-12-14 02:38:53 <BlueMatt> netg: Im writing tor support in bitcoinj
 144 2013-12-14 02:38:55 <BlueMatt> not bitcoind
 145 2013-12-14 02:39:03 <netg> ok sorry
 146 2013-12-14 02:39:06 <netg> sorry
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 148 2013-12-14 02:41:09 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: I suppose it's resolving it directly instead of passing the name on to the socks proxy.
 149 2013-12-14 02:41:12 <gmaxwell> otherwise it would work.
 150 2013-12-14 02:41:58 <BlueMatt> well, some asserts in the code freaked because there was no resolved address (created the socketaddress with createUnresolved())
 151 2013-12-14 02:42:28 <__alp__> for some reason, I cant seem to get gettransaction to work, even though I set txindex=1 and reindexed (twice)
 152 2013-12-14 02:42:32 <__alp__> Anyone got any ideas?
 153 2013-12-14 02:42:54 <__alp__> index dir is 1.5GB, seems like its all there, conf file looks fine, any way to get the options out of bitcoind?
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 157 2013-12-14 02:46:01 <gmaxwell> __alp__: gettransaction only returns in wallet transactions. (does what it says in the help)
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 159 2013-12-14 02:46:18 <gmaxwell> __alp__: you want getrawtransaction <txid> 1 presumably.
 160 2013-12-14 02:46:24 <__alp__> Thought I read I could reindex to get all transactions with txindex=1
 161 2013-12-14 02:46:33 <__alp__> I am trying to figure out what block a tx is from just based on its hash
 162 2013-12-14 02:46:56 <__alp__> http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/11759/get-non-wallet-transactions-using-bitcoin-rpc-gettransaction
 163 2013-12-14 02:47:10 <gmaxwell> 18:42 <@gmaxwell> __alp__: gettransaction only returns in wallet transactions. (does what it says in the help)
 164 2013-12-14 02:47:14 <gmaxwell> 18:42 <@gmaxwell> __alp__: you want getrawtransaction <txid> 1 presumably.
 165 2013-12-14 02:47:18 <__alp__> ugh
 166 2013-12-14 02:47:24 <__alp__> Need to learn to read more carefully
 167 2013-12-14 02:47:28 <__alp__> ty as always mr maxswell
 168 2013-12-14 02:47:51 <gmaxwell> Thats okay, copy and paste are cheap. :P
 169 2013-12-14 02:48:17 <__alp__> wasted 2 days reindexing twice
 170 2013-12-14 02:49:13 <__alp__> got another potentially dumb question, maybe I should look at source, but should be quick
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 172 2013-12-14 02:49:39 <__alp__> When recalculating difficulty, I presume timestamps are used to determine if it was faster or slower than expected, this correct?
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 176 2013-12-14 02:50:07 <gmaxwell> __alp__: yes.
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 180 2013-12-14 02:50:26 <__alp__> There some kind of validation to ensure timestamps arent spoofed?  Ive seen timestamps in blocks that were weird
 181 2013-12-14 02:50:57 <gmaxwell> __alp__: yes, they're constrained to be not more than 2 hours into the future and greater than the median of the last 10.
 182 2013-12-14 02:51:00 <gmaxwell> er 11.
 183 2013-12-14 02:51:46 <__alp__> figured there had to be something like that.  2 hours into the future meaning 2 hours from the last block?  or dealing with relaying as the last block?
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 185 2013-12-14 02:52:06 <gmaxwell> No. 2 hours into the future meaning 2 hours from your local idea of the time.
 186 2013-12-14 02:52:10 <kjj> from what a given node thinks "now" is
 187 2013-12-14 02:52:25 <gmaxwell> which is why there is so much leeway.
 188 2013-12-14 02:52:30 <__alp__> If I am validating a blockchain from 3 years ago, I have no idea what now was, right?
 189 2013-12-14 02:52:41 <__alp__> So I use median method on old stuff, and know about new blocks?
 190 2013-12-14 02:52:49 <__alp__> treat new blocks differently
 191 2013-12-14 02:52:55 <kjj> doesn't matter.  a timestamp from 2010 is not beyond the 2 hour limit from your node's "now"
 192 2013-12-14 02:53:03 <gmaxwell> No. it's essential that new and old blocks are not treated differently.
 193 2013-12-14 02:53:09 <gmaxwell> There are two boundaries, an upper and a lower.
 194 2013-12-14 02:53:40 <gmaxwell> Upper depends on the current time, which always flows forward (unless you're in a movie) so the test is consistent with old and new blocks. Lower depends only on the chain.
 195 2013-12-14 02:54:12 <__alp__> gotcha, thx
 196 2013-12-14 02:54:21 <__alp__> depends only on the chain meaning after the last block?
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 199 2013-12-14 02:55:03 <gmaxwell> __alp__: I am not following your question.
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 201 2013-12-14 02:55:07 <kjj> the official rule is "greater than the median of the previous 11"
 202 2013-12-14 02:55:21 <__alp__> ok, thats why I have seen later blocks with earlier timestamps
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 204 2013-12-14 02:55:41 <gmaxwell> __alp__: it's perfectly possible to have timestamps go backwards.
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 206 2013-12-14 02:55:57 <__alp__> just not too far backwards (before the previous 11 median)
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 208 2013-12-14 02:56:12 <gmaxwell> If it weren't someone could irritate miners and create forking by mining a block at now+two hours
 209 2013-12-14 02:56:15 <gmaxwell> __alp__: ah right.
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 211 2013-12-14 02:57:24 <__alp__> Miners could also keep the difficulty low by setting the block 1 year in the future, making difficulty drop a ton making it think it took a long time to mine
 212 2013-12-14 02:57:44 <kjj> no.  remember the upper bound?
 213 2013-12-14 02:57:48 <__alp__> Without the bound
 214 2013-12-14 02:57:55 <__alp__> I was wondering how that was accomplished
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 216 2013-12-14 02:58:54 <gmaxwell> yep.
 217 2013-12-14 02:58:57 <__alp__> Someone might try to cheat by setting it too far, but cant get too much further.
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 220 2013-12-14 02:59:26 <gmaxwell> the boundary means they can only cheat by 0.5% and only once, since cheating this retarget means the diff will be higher in the next one.
 221 2013-12-14 02:59:28 <kjj> now they could try to fake an old block by setting the timestamp ahead, but still in the actual past
 222 2013-12-14 02:59:49 <kjj> but the difficulty will catch that one
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 225 2013-12-14 03:03:48 <__alp__> kjj: how do you mean difficulty will catch that one
 226 2013-12-14 03:05:04 <kjj> the current chain has something like 2^74.7 work embedded in it
 227 2013-12-14 03:06:22 <kjj> if you go back to like block 100,000 and start making a fork, you can fudge timestamps to bring the difficulty on your fork way down so you can make a bunch of blocks
 228 2013-12-14 03:06:38 <kjj> but your chain won't have more work than the real chain, so it is just an annoyance
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 259 2013-12-14 03:40:45 <nifong> Hi there. I have not been able to receive anything on the testnet from faucets. (using bitcoind version 32400) The address I was trying to receive with is mkk1ThMrVUq7zrsbVmFgrkaqSezF6rKKRm Is there anything I should know about that could prevent this from working?
 260 2013-12-14 03:43:15 <BlueMatt> "version 32400"
 261 2013-12-14 03:43:16 <BlueMatt> lol
 262 2013-12-14 03:43:29 <BlueMatt> 0.3.24 is how many years old?
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 264 2013-12-14 03:44:19 <nifong> It's old? oops
 265 2013-12-14 03:44:29 <BlueMatt> its ancient and very broken
 266 2013-12-14 03:44:55 <BlueMatt> where did you get it that told you it was recent?
 267 2013-12-14 03:45:39 <nifong> Well, that needs to be addressed! Honestly I'm not sure where it came from. It was just on my system.
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 269 2013-12-14 03:45:52 <nifong> Might have come from apt-get at some point maybe
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 271 2013-12-14 03:46:08 <BlueMatt> ahhh, thats why...dont trust the shit ubuntu/debian ship you
 272 2013-12-14 03:46:17 <BlueMatt> its usually ancient and, in the case of bitcoin, comes with lots of fun bugs
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 275 2013-12-14 03:47:04 <dekiss> if you need develoepr message me
 276 2013-12-14 03:47:15 <nifong> Well, sorry I bugged you with that. :P
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 278 2013-12-14 03:47:44 <BlueMatt> you should file a bug with debian to tell them they're doing it wrong
 279 2013-12-14 03:47:59 <BlueMatt> there is a stable branch they should be using, at a minimum...
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 282 2013-12-14 03:49:54 <pigeons> hmm i checked my debian sources it has a bitcoind/bitcoin-qt in the repo, but on debian unstable at least its bitcoind_0.8.6-1_amd64.deb
 283 2013-12-14 03:50:19 <BlueMatt> yes, but not many people use debian unstable
 284 2013-12-14 03:50:38 <BlueMatt> and shipping old versions with known bugs without backporting fixes to any release is just irresponsible
 285 2013-12-14 03:50:44 <pigeons> yeah
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 287 2013-12-14 03:52:06 <Luke-Jr> well, it'
 288 2013-12-14 03:52:12 <Luke-Jr> well, it's just monopoly money after all!
 289 2013-12-14 03:52:14 <Luke-Jr> <.<
 290 2013-12-14 03:53:46 <pigeons> i'm not sure there is a bitcoin in debian stable. stable is wheezy right?
 291 2013-12-14 03:54:17 <Luke-Jr> stable is squeeze
 292 2013-12-14 03:54:22 <Luke-Jr> I think
 293 2013-12-14 03:54:48 <Luke-Jr> wait no, squeeze is oldstable now
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 297 2013-12-14 03:55:07 <Luke-Jr> heh, squeeze-backports has 0.3.24, but nothing at all for wheezy
 298 2013-12-14 03:55:10 <Luke-Jr> guess that's an improvement
 299 2013-12-14 03:55:22 <Luke-Jr> dunno why backports can't have latest
 300 2013-12-14 03:56:48 <pigeons> i think that's also the one where they included a bitcoin.conf with rpcpassword= blank
 301 2013-12-14 03:57:27 <Luke-Jr> pigeons: that's fine, bitcoind will refuse to start
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 303 2013-12-14 03:58:00 <pigeons> let me look they did something, like use the same password for everyone or something
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 305 2013-12-14 04:02:27 <nifong> great, I'm using the latest version now.
 306 2013-12-14 04:03:12 <nifong> So I noticed that the difficulty changes between 1.0 and 121.011 on successive calls to bitcoind getinfo. What's up with that?
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 308 2013-12-14 04:04:22 <Luke-Jr> nifong: your client hasn't finished bootstrapping itself yet
 309 2013-12-14 04:04:29 <Luke-Jr> nifong: it's something like 1 billion now (2013 Dec)
 310 2013-12-14 04:04:43 <nifong> I'm referring to the testnet difficulty
 311 2013-12-14 04:05:00 <nifong> but still, it's probably still bootstrapping like you said
 312 2013-12-14 04:05:17 <BlueMatt> pigeons: used some non-crypto rng for the rpcpassword
 313 2013-12-14 04:05:34 <BlueMatt> still, it doesnt matter much unless you let bitcoind rpc listen outside of localhost (which you souldnt)
 314 2013-12-14 04:05:44 <pigeons> yeah
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 385 2013-12-14 05:50:54 <trixisowned> Anyone familiar with p2pool? what would be causing http://pastebin.com/Fp7DC2b6 to happen every block for a scrypt altcoin? It sends payment and adds the block to the list and correctly submits it but it still errors over and over~
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 389 2013-12-14 05:57:04 <Luke-Jr> trixisowned: this is #bitcoin-dev, not #scamcoin-dev
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 903 2013-12-14 16:00:46 <siritinga> Hi!
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 907 2013-12-14 16:01:13 <siritinga> I'm reading about bitcoin internals, and there is something I don't understand
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 909 2013-12-14 16:02:00 <siritinga> If I understand correctly, a transaction are not confirmed until someone closes a block, and that transaction is included in the closed block, right?
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 918 2013-12-14 16:07:27 <sipa> siritinga: a transaction is confirmed as soon as a miner includes it in a block
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 920 2013-12-14 16:07:44 <sipa> saying that a block is 'closed' is misleading, though
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 923 2013-12-14 16:08:32 <Apocalyptic> i think he meant 'mined' for 'closed'
 924 2013-12-14 16:09:46 <sipa> maybe, but using the word 'closed' may mean that he believes blocks are just created sequentially, and each block starts when the previous is done
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 926 2013-12-14 16:09:57 <siritinga> yes, sorry, I meant mined.
 927 2013-12-14 16:10:03 <sipa> there is no progress towards creating blocks
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 930 2013-12-14 16:10:17 <sipa> miners just try all the time, and every attempt is independent
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 932 2013-12-14 16:11:27 <siritinga> And the miner choses which transactions its block includes?
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 936 2013-12-14 16:12:14 <sipa> indeed
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 940 2013-12-14 16:12:45 <siritinga> I see... so transactions without transaction fee may take forever to be confirmed
 941 2013-12-14 16:13:07 <sipa> even with fee that may be the case
 942 2013-12-14 16:13:28 <sipa> (in theory)
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 945 2013-12-14 16:13:48 <siritinga> Can a transaction be discarded/lost if not confirmed in some time?
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 949 2013-12-14 16:16:08 <sipa> yes, wallet software typically keeps broafcasting it until it confirms
 950 2013-12-14 16:16:41 <siritinga> Now I see, thanks!
 951 2013-12-14 16:17:06 <siritinga> I've been reading about bitcoin for some time without really understanding it.
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 954 2013-12-14 16:17:36 <siritinga> Now I'm trying to understand it and it's very interesting :)
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1014 2013-12-14 16:53:16 <easye> Well, managed to get http://svn.macports.org/repository/macports/trunk/dports/finance/bitcoind/Portfile to build a post 0.8.6.  I'd sure like some schooling on the bitcoin release engineering when someone has the time.
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1050 2013-12-14 17:28:47 <arioBarzan> shouldn't the output of OP_EQUALVERIFY be nothing/false? in the wiki the output is true/false (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Script)
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1131 2013-12-14 18:10:02 <arioBarzan> shouldn't the output of OP_EQUALVERIFY be nothing/false? it is shown as true/false in http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Script
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1315 2013-12-14 20:22:57 <kuzetsa> hmm
1316 2013-12-14 20:23:34 <kuzetsa> been rather quiet in here for hours
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1319 2013-12-14 20:26:22 <_-_-_> Hi bitcoin devs,
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1321 2013-12-14 20:26:36 <_-_-_> I'm trying to run bitcoind on an aws server
1322 2013-12-14 20:26:50 <_-_-_> And I keep getting a corrupted wallet after ~ 1h
1323 2013-12-14 20:26:51 <_-_-_> CDB() : can't open database file wallet.dat, error -30974
1324 2013-12-14 20:26:59 <_-_-_> any ideas why ?
1325 2013-12-14 20:27:23 <_-_-_> I don't mind deleting it as it doesn't hold coins yet, but I am a little worried on the long term
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1330 2013-12-14 20:29:48 <sipa1024> does db.log contain anything more detailed?
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1332 2013-12-14 20:31:34 <_-_-_> from db.log
1333 2013-12-14 20:31:35 <_-_-_> PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
1334 2013-12-14 20:32:26 <_-_-_> I just ran bitcoind -salvagewallet and it seems to have exited without errors..
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1337 2013-12-14 20:32:40 <_-_-_> I'm going to see if it reproduces
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1341 2013-12-14 20:34:12 <_-_-_> when launching bitcoind:
1342 2013-12-14 20:34:12 <_-_-_> Error: System error: CDB() : can't open database file wallet.dat, error -30974
1343 2013-12-14 20:34:15 <_-_-_> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error' what():  CDB() : can't open database file wallet.dat, error -30974
1344 2013-12-14 20:34:19 <_-_-_> Bitcoin server starting
1345 2013-12-14 20:34:21 <_-_-_> Error: wallet.dat corrupt, salvage failed
1346 2013-12-14 20:34:24 <_-_-_> Bitcoin server starting
1347 2013-12-14 20:37:10 <_-_-_> sipa any ideas where this came from ?
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1390 2013-12-14 21:31:54 <Ostkaka> skinnkavaj snygg mundering
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1392 2013-12-14 21:32:08 <skinnkavaj> Mundering?
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1394 2013-12-14 21:32:17 <Ostkaka> kavajen :]
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1397 2013-12-14 21:33:10 <skinnkavaj> tack Ostkaka
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1401 2013-12-14 21:35:02 <gmaxwell> https://research.microsoft.com/en-us/people/mickens/thesaddestmoment.pdf “How can you make a reliable computer service?” the presenter will ask in an innocent voice before continuing, “It may be difficult if you can’t trust anything and the entire concept of happiness is a lie designed by unseen overlords of endless deceptive power.”
1402 2013-12-14 21:36:21 <TD> yes that was an amusing take on it
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1443 2013-12-14 22:21:54 <RixiM> If I wanted to setup a "gaming house" that only worked in btc, I think it is possible completely with contracts?
1444 2013-12-14 22:22:34 <RixiM> err, poorly phrased. Does anyone know of any examples of contracts applied to gaming?
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1448 2013-12-14 22:30:57 <TD> RixiM: yes, see the recent research paper posted by amiller to the dev forum
1449 2013-12-14 22:33:51 <RixiM> Thanks.
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1454 2013-12-14 22:38:28 <RixiM> TD: this one? http://eprint.iacr.org/2013/784
1455 2013-12-14 22:38:41 <TD> yeah
1456 2013-12-14 22:40:30 <RixiM> Ah, I am reading it, I think my system is much easier beacuse I am assuming that the fairness of the game can only be determined after the game has been played.
1457 2013-12-14 22:41:21 <TD> ok
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1461 2013-12-14 22:43:00 <tommygunner> so i just made a fee-less transaction at 224 bytes
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1463 2013-12-14 22:43:07 <tommygunner> raw transaction
1464 2013-12-14 22:43:12 <tommygunner> and it basically got confirmed immediately
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1467 2013-12-14 22:43:33 <tommygunner> safe to say the new fee policy is awesome :>
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1469 2013-12-14 22:45:24 <TD> well, that may or may not be due to the new policy
1470 2013-12-14 22:45:27 <TD> i doubt most miners have upgraded yet
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1472 2013-12-14 22:46:38 <jsidhu> hey guys im compiling 0.8.5 but my daemon is 80 megs compiled? why?
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1474 2013-12-14 22:47:57 <gmaxwell> tommygunner: has nothing to do with a fee policy change— thats just how it works when you're spending large amounts of aged coins that have high priority.
1475 2013-12-14 22:48:09 <gmaxwell> jsidhu: because you haven't stripped it and it has debugging symbols.
1476 2013-12-14 22:48:51 <tommygunner> its very fresh coin
1477 2013-12-14 22:48:59 <jsidhu> gmaxwell: would it affect running testnet? it crashes when I send it a message with another node
1478 2013-12-14 22:49:08 <jsidhu> the versio nmessage crashes it
1479 2013-12-14 22:49:17 <gmaxwell> crashes it?!
1480 2013-12-14 22:49:33 <tommygunner> my input has only 173 confirmations
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1483 2013-12-14 22:49:51 <jsidhu> gmaxwell: yea I run testnet, its fine.. then i run another with addnode to the first and it crashes after init
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1486 2013-12-14 22:52:04 <gmaxwell> jsidhu: by crashes, do you mean shuts down cleanly with a message that it can't bind the port because the port is already in use?
1487 2013-12-14 22:52:41 <jsidhu> no crashes literally
1488 2013-12-14 22:52:56 <jsidhu> log doesnt say anything
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1490 2013-12-14 22:53:21 <jsidhu> when you gt a version message isnt it just at the socket layer in net.cpp?
1491 2013-12-14 22:53:34 <jsidhu> i do get a socket rcv error sometimes
1492 2013-12-14 22:53:36 <jsidhu> in the log
1493 2013-12-14 22:53:43 <gmaxwell> jsidhu: it's not clear to me what you're doing. Have you modified the software? are you running two nodes with the same data directory?
1494 2013-12-14 22:54:14 <jsidhu> i modified the software in createblock but i put printf'
1495 2013-12-14 22:54:27 <gmaxwell> Needless to say, no one else is reporting it crashing on connect, testnet or otherwise. Also, if you're compiling it — why 0.8.5?
1496 2013-12-14 22:54:29 <jsidhu> print's around my changed code and I dont see the print statements so im not reaching that code
1497 2013-12-14 22:54:41 <jsidhu> gmaxwell: im forward porting devcoin
1498 2013-12-14 22:54:49 <jsidhu> should i be doing it with 0.8.6?
1499 2013-12-14 22:55:25 <jsidhu> maybe something with the build? with boost or something?
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1501 2013-12-14 22:55:43 <jsidhu> I run a compiled version and it works
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1503 2013-12-14 23:02:33 <RixiM> jsidhu: sounds like your testing method is questionable at best.
1504 2013-12-14 23:03:47 <jsidhu> rixim: maybe... just learning :) so to strip out debug symbols would I have to recompile all of the libs for boost/openssl and DB with another flag? i didnt think they were statically linked
1505 2013-12-14 23:04:35 <RixiM> jsidhu: i would just compile with no changes, keeping the debugging symbols and see if that works.
1506 2013-12-14 23:05:00 <RixiM> then add the smallest "meaningful" change you can, see what happens and repeat.
1507 2013-12-14 23:06:40 <jsidhu> RixiM yea I will have to do that :( that sucks but I atleast I'll find the issue
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1554 2013-12-14 23:40:31 <berndj> jsidhu, have you tried running bitcoind under valgrind? and no, you can strip after the fact with strip(1)
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1559 2013-12-14 23:43:29 <jsidhu> berndj: Im using mingw64
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1562 2013-12-14 23:43:35 <jsidhu> can i just call strip bitcoind?
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1564 2013-12-14 23:44:48 <jsidhu> I started with i0coin (rsnel
1565 2013-12-14 23:44:53 <jsidhu> fork and its testnet is broken
1566 2013-12-14 23:44:58 <jsidhu> so I inherited the problem
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1568 2013-12-14 23:45:20 <jsidhu> I need to start from i0coin because it closely resembles devcoin except for reciever file stuff which I added already
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1570 2013-12-14 23:45:32 <jsidhu> so now I cant really test my devcoin forward porting
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1584 2013-12-14 23:54:54 <jsidhu> man this sucks
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1586 2013-12-14 23:55:02 <jsidhu> how do I test my daemon without a testnet?
1587 2013-12-14 23:55:24 <jsidhu> im fairly sure it should just work but never know
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