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 125 2014-01-09 02:02:36 <tiyoT> about bitcoin mining, my understanding that the miners basically verifying transactions in the blockchain. when they are done with one block (~10min) they will be rewarded 25 btc by bitcoin protocol.
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 128 2014-01-09 02:03:39 <Belxjander> tiyoT: that is true... but it is also based on the fastest hashing "miner" being the "winner" of the BTC "prize"... as only 1 miner is able to "win"
 129 2014-01-09 02:03:44 <tiyoT> 1. when block is discovered, the one who found the block will be rewarded the bitcoin
 130 2014-01-09 02:03:48 <Belxjander> and the "win" is the "longest chain" generated
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 132 2014-01-09 02:04:45 <tiyoT> i dont get what does "when the block found" part. because the miners are verifying all the transactions in block A, which block found does it mean?
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 192 2014-01-09 02:26:16 <TheLordOfTime> is there a command line option that I can use to speed up indexing the blocks?
 193 2014-01-09 02:26:27 <TheLordOfTime> indexing / downloading*
 194 2014-01-09 02:26:38 <phantomcircuit> TheLordOfTime, download bootstrap.dat using the torrent
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 196 2014-01-09 02:26:50 <TheLordOfTime> phantomcircuit: any way to speed up indexing though?
 197 2014-01-09 02:26:52 <shesek> if there was one, why would it be an option and not always turned on?
 198 2014-01-09 02:27:11 <TheLordOfTime> good question, however if there's any secret tricks, I'd be happy to know them :/
 199 2014-01-09 02:27:16 <phantomcircuit> TheLordOfTime, increase -dbcache
 200 2014-01-09 02:27:17 <gmaxwell> TheLordOfTime -dbcache=2000
 201 2014-01-09 02:27:37 <phantomcircuit> although my measurements dont show it making that big of a difference
 202 2014-01-09 02:27:42 <TheLordOfTime> phantomcircuit: gmaxwell: thanks.
 203 2014-01-09 02:27:57 <gmaxwell> and it's not on by default becuause it uses a lot of ram. :P  (well the default is 25... you can see improvements up to perhaps 1000-2000 megs, beyond that nah)
 204 2014-01-09 02:27:59 <phantomcircuit> it only takes about 20 minutes now to reindex
 205 2014-01-09 02:27:59 <shesek> heh, and apparently there's one :)
 206 2014-01-09 02:28:23 <gmaxwell> it's not a huge improvement unless you have a slow disk.
 207 2014-01-09 02:28:45 <phantomcircuit> TheLordOfTime, how much ram do you have total?
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 211 2014-01-09 02:29:46 <TheLordOfTime> plus ~7.5GB swap
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 366 2014-01-09 06:14:11 <justanotheruser> Is there a bitcoin script assembler, or do I need to type to opcodes and all that myself?
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 372 2014-01-09 06:18:00 <gmaxwell> justanotheruser: the opcode hex takes less typing than the names in all cases. :P
 373 2014-01-09 06:18:02 <justanotheruser> s/do I need to type to opcodes and all that myself/do I need to convert to opcodes to hex myself?
 374 2014-01-09 06:18:06 <gmaxwell> justanotheruser: no assembler that I'm aware of.
 375 2014-01-09 06:18:20 <justanotheruser> *the opcode
 376 2014-01-09 06:18:27 <justanotheruser> wow I'm bad at typing right now
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 378 2014-01-09 06:18:37 <gmaxwell> besides, how else will you reconize the opcodes in hex when looking at them unless you type them some. Want my flashcard deck?
 379 2014-01-09 06:18:40 <justanotheruser> gmaxwell: is there a bitcoin scipt tool that is better than bitcoind
 380 2014-01-09 06:18:50 <gmaxwell> no.
 381 2014-01-09 06:19:07 <gmaxwell> (bitcoind has decodescript so at least you can manually inspect your hand-assembly)
 382 2014-01-09 06:19:28 <justanotheruser> gmaxwell: well if there was an assembler I wouldn't have to look at them in hex because I could just open them up in the assembler :P
 383 2014-01-09 06:22:57 <justanotheruser> gmaxwell: what does decode script do? Evaluate it? Turn it into assembly? Something else?
 384 2014-01-09 06:23:08 * uiop puts script (dis)assembler on his todo-if-have-free-time list
 385 2014-01-09 06:23:53 <justanotheruser> uiop: please let me beta test it if you make it
 386 2014-01-09 06:24:04 <uiop> justanotheruser: will do
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 389 2014-01-09 06:26:01 <justanotheruser> I don't see decodescript in https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Original_Bitcoin_client/API_calls_list
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 394 2014-01-09 06:29:53 <warren> anyone have testnet coins?  the faucets seem to be busted now.
 395 2014-01-09 06:29:59 <justanotheruser> warren: address?
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 397 2014-01-09 06:30:57 <warren> justanotheruser: mhzEDASM25bAu2HM2JRdeMWq8JsJQnZojv  please.  send a few tx.
 398 2014-01-09 06:31:47 <justanotheruser> warren: please chose 2 values, one the number of tx (1-25), two the sum out the transactions (1-8)
 399 2014-01-09 06:32:40 <warren> justanotheruser: just send anything
 400 2014-01-09 06:33:02 <justanotheruser> okay, I'll send a few tx summing to 2 testcoins
 401 2014-01-09 06:34:38 <justanotheruser> f0ea29ef351610dcd3090d1545f47668ac34e38c070b0caedf0086b2aac721ba 6597db4c7338a0a277c803bd586a8c9ec24ee5ca88cf80fa0d40fb5bb9ce4d97 9713cdec8051b2a71b1faf6558c86c9a16ea1801bac86cc212cee809f976bb29 1f76c2d3504c22053a694a0865336b4a3195ed6b57d48bcc12f74337997c4301
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 403 2014-01-09 06:35:26 <warren> justanotheruser: thank you
 404 2014-01-09 06:35:40 <justanotheruser> np
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 407 2014-01-09 06:37:07 <gmaxwell> justanotheruser: http://0bin.net/paste/It+bT30JWs-cPx8u#0oAYOHNXLIOhP0Q7zVyRuFSCf8p3GG1G5bBsxr7WtA0=
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 409 2014-01-09 06:39:12 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|08:08:02 <gmaxwell> justanotheruser: the opcode hex takes less typing than the names in all cases. :P
 410 2014-01-09 06:39:18 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|Only if you include OP_
 411 2014-01-09 06:39:26 <justanotheruser> gmaxwell: I am running version 80600 and my bitcoind doensn't have that
 412 2014-01-09 06:39:41 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|justanotheruser: yeah, it's in git
 413 2014-01-09 06:39:51 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|0.8.6 doesn't have it
 414 2014-01-09 06:40:17 <justanotheruser> michagogo|cloud: well for some opcodes like op_0 it takes less time
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 416 2014-01-09 06:40:36 <justanotheruser> but for NUMEQUALVERIFY it takes more time than the hex
 417 2014-01-09 06:41:01 <justanotheruser> michagogo|cloud: is it a 0.8.6 fork, or a different version fork
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 420 2014-01-09 06:42:42 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|justanotheruser: Git master builds on 0.8.2
 421 2014-01-09 06:42:52 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|That's what will be 0.9
 422 2014-01-09 06:43:39 <justanotheruser> michagogo|cloud: Will this be in 0.9 or what does that last statement you made mean?
 423 2014-01-09 06:43:53 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|decodescript is in Git master.
 424 2014-01-09 06:44:09 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|The last release that git master has in its history is 0.8.2.
 425 2014-01-09 06:44:23 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|0.9 will be taken from git master.
 426 2014-01-09 06:44:25 <justanotheruser> michagogo|cloud: does encodescript exist
 427 2014-01-09 06:44:36 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|I don't know
 428 2014-01-09 06:44:46 <justanotheruser> Probably not if you didn't make it :)
 429 2014-01-09 06:45:37 <justanotheruser> Any idea on .9 release date?
 430 2014-01-09 06:46:04 <shesek> warren, the testnet faucet on mojocoin moved here: http://faucet.xeno-genesis.com/
 431 2014-01-09 06:47:07 <shesek> it seems to work fine
 432 2014-01-09 06:48:14 <shesek> the one on appspot seems to work too, but has some serious delays until the coins are sent
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 441 2014-01-09 06:56:41 <wyager> I'm glad people are finally getting frenetic about pool centralization. I mean, this is like the 3rd time, but every time we get a little closer to not needing to worry about a 51% attack wrought by carelessness
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 486 2014-01-09 08:12:14 <allanlw> is there a nice place I can get a list of the types of transactions forwarded by standard bitcoin nodes?
 487 2014-01-09 08:12:46 <allanlw> i.e. the subset of all valid transactions that will be accepted by the network
 488 2014-01-09 08:15:45 <warren> shesek: thanks
 489 2014-01-09 08:18:19 <shesek> warren, you welcome
 490 2014-01-09 08:18:37 <shesek> I wonder why they let the old domain expire and didn't setup a 301... I had to email them to find out the new URL
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 492 2014-01-09 08:20:03 <shesek> allanlw, I don't know if it counts as nice, but https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/script.cpp#L1197
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 495 2014-01-09 08:22:01 <allanlw> shesek: thanks
 496 2014-01-09 08:22:02 <shesek> basically its pay-to-pubkey, pay-to-pubkey-hash, multisig, p2sh and OP_RETURN (on git only)
 497 2014-01-09 08:22:39 <allanlw> shesek: is the rejection of others mostly a hardening thing?
 498 2014-01-09 08:24:08 <allanlw> also I assume OP_SMALLINTERGER is made somewhere else from separate pushes?
 499 2014-01-09 08:24:20 <allanlw> aka it's a pseudo op?
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 503 2014-01-09 08:27:16 <swulf--> If anyone's interested, I just put up http://bip32.org/
 504 2014-01-09 08:27:18 <deanclkclk> ok apologies for coming here but, I've run out of luck on the #bitcoin. I am trying to  run my bitcoind as a daemon. From my command land I specify -> bitcoind -daemon -conf="path" -datadir="path"
 505 2014-01-09 08:27:27 <deanclkclk> whenever I run it..the command freezes
 506 2014-01-09 08:28:01 <deanclkclk> it's running from the background because I can use my web app to send json rpc commands to it but, not from the command line. It freezes and I can't type a command
 507 2014-01-09 08:28:44 <shesek> swulf--, that looks pretty cool
 508 2014-01-09 08:28:51 <shesek> how about deriving from a master public key?
 509 2014-01-09 08:29:01 <swulf--> shesek: it works - just copy in a master public key
 510 2014-01-09 08:29:34 <shesek> oh, awesome :) perhaps you should make that clearer in the interface
 511 2014-01-09 08:29:56 <swulf--> shesek: you can get the associated master public key from the current private one by setting the key derivation to "Info: m" and copying the "derived public key" (even tho its not actually derived)
 512 2014-01-09 08:30:09 <jcorgan> swulf: i suggest swapping i and k in your terminology
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 514 2014-01-09 08:30:19 <shesek> allanlw, yes, afaik its mostly due to security concerns and possible unknown attacker vectors
 515 2014-01-09 08:30:21 <swulf--> jcorgan: really? I was going with the terminology used in the bIP
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 517 2014-01-09 08:30:58 <jcorgan> the "index" used in the bip is i
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 520 2014-01-09 08:31:19 <swulf--> jcorgan: true. there is no separate value for k, either.
 521 2014-01-09 08:31:34 <swulf--> m/i'/0  is fixed with 0 being the only child index
 522 2014-01-09 08:31:36 <jcorgan> k is a not specified, but seems to be the common way to refer to the account
 523 2014-01-09 08:31:42 <deanclkclk> can anyone help me?
 524 2014-01-09 08:31:47 <swulf--> aight
 525 2014-01-09 08:31:53 <swulf--> I'll swap k and i
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 528 2014-01-09 08:32:02 <jcorgan> so you'd have m/k'/0/i and m/k'/1/i
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 533 2014-01-09 08:32:30 <jcorgan> but nicely done anyway
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 540 2014-01-09 08:33:59 <allanlw> shesek: is there also a list of standard scriptSigs?
 541 2014-01-09 08:34:29 <allanlw> shesek: I know C++ I just can't find anything in the source very well
 542 2014-01-09 08:35:09 <jcorgan> swulf--: also, the bip recommends using two different chains for addresses you'll give out vs. addresses used internally, like change addresses
 543 2014-01-09 08:35:15 <justanotheruser>  deanclkclk you could try https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=4.0
 544 2014-01-09 08:35:30 <swulf--> jcorgan: right - the internal/external accounts (both available in the key derivation dropdown)
 545 2014-01-09 08:35:32 <deanclkclk> ok thx
 546 2014-01-09 08:36:04 <jcorgan> oh, didn't see that.
 547 2014-01-09 08:36:31 <swulf--> i just pushed the i/k swap, a refrehs in ~5 mins should fix that
 548 2014-01-09 08:37:49 <jcorgan> i'm working in parallel on a command line version of the same thing
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 551 2014-01-09 08:40:21 <jcorgan> also, the "key derivation" choice names are not informative.  the bip itself uses poor terminology for these, too.
 552 2014-01-09 08:40:47 <jcorgan> but I nor apparently anyone else has been able to come up with anything better
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 555 2014-01-09 08:43:14 <swulf--> jcorgan: I thought this too :)
 556 2014-01-09 08:43:18 <jcorgan> how are you getting from passphrase to the extended key
 557 2014-01-09 08:45:57 <swulf--> first hash to produce 256-bit, then use the hash in the algorithm described in the bip
 558 2014-01-09 08:46:06 <swulf--> using the sha512-hmac
 559 2014-01-09 08:46:29 <jcorgan> i'd strongly discourage you from asking users to provide a passphrase as a source of entropy for this
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 561 2014-01-09 08:46:45 <Diablo-D3> well, unless you key stretch it
 562 2014-01-09 08:46:53 <jcorgan> exactly
 563 2014-01-09 08:47:18 <Diablo-D3> like, 1m rounds of sha512 pbkdf2
 564 2014-01-09 08:47:33 <swulf--> jcorgan: well, brainwallet.org suffers from the same lack-of-entropy
 565 2014-01-09 08:47:51 <jcorgan> yes, and brainwallet.org has been the source of many painful loss of bitcoin events
 566 2014-01-09 08:48:08 <swulf--> indeed it has
 567 2014-01-09 08:48:21 <shesek> its also a good idea to encourage users to include personal information in the passphrase, like a username, email, full name, government i.d., etc
 568 2014-01-09 08:48:37 <shesek> I like what vbuterin is doing - he separated it into two separate fields, one for username and one for password
 569 2014-01-09 08:48:37 <swulf--> jcorgon: doesn't mean that this particular way to derive the key can't be useful, though
 570 2014-01-09 08:48:48 <shesek> using it like that makes brainwallets much safer
 571 2014-01-09 08:48:52 <swulf--> shesek: interesting. got a link?
 572 2014-01-09 08:49:21 <shesek> I saw this in his multisig.info project, he also talked about it in reddit
 573 2014-01-09 08:49:39 <shesek> see his response here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ucw7p/multisiginfo_a_simple_multisig_interface/cegu57l
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 575 2014-01-09 08:50:54 <shesek> its not really any different from the users putting the username into the passphrase field, but it forces them to do it which is good
 576 2014-01-09 08:51:09 <swulf--> shesek: interesting - http://ms-brainwallet.org/ is my site, doing a very similar thing
 577 2014-01-09 08:51:36 <shesek> yeah, I saw it on that same thread
 578 2014-01-09 08:51:40 <shesek> gave you a beer too :)
 579 2014-01-09 08:51:48 <swulf--> oh.. indeed. that was you:)
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 581 2014-01-09 08:53:03 <jcorgan> swulf--: SHA256(passphrase) as a source of entropy is valid, for people who understand what entropy is, but i'd really rather you go with a key stretching approach
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 583 2014-01-09 08:53:22 <swulf--> jcorgan: OK - what's a decent key stretching approach?
 584 2014-01-09 08:53:33 <shesek> <Diablo-D3> like, 1m rounds of sha512 pbkdf2
 585 2014-01-09 08:53:38 <jcorgan> google pbkdf2
 586 2014-01-09 08:53:39 <shesek> sounds reasonable
 587 2014-01-09 08:53:48 <swulf--> hmm
 588 2014-01-09 08:53:59 <swulf--> the goal is to beat brute-force I guess
 589 2014-01-09 08:54:04 <shesek> do it in a web worker tho with a progress bar or something, otherwise it'll choke the browser
 590 2014-01-09 08:54:27 <Diablo-D3> pbkdf2 does x = 0; loop(x times) { x = x ^ hashalgo(input) }
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 592 2014-01-09 08:55:45 <Diablo-D3> er
 593 2014-01-09 08:55:48 <Diablo-D3> I wrote that wrong
 594 2014-01-09 08:55:56 <allanlw> other options are scrypt and bcrypt
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 596 2014-01-09 08:56:28 <swulf--> all right, sounds good enough. i'll try and get something cool done tonight
 597 2014-01-09 08:56:37 <Diablo-D3> wikipedia lists it correctly anyways
 598 2014-01-09 08:56:50 <Diablo-D3> allanlw: bcrypt isnt an option
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 600 2014-01-09 08:57:02 <Diablo-D3> and scrypt is the only useful replacement for pbkdf2+sha512
 601 2014-01-09 08:57:06 <jcorgan> swulf--: please take our feedback in a positive way--i'm really happy to see someone doing this
 602 2014-01-09 08:57:17 <Diablo-D3> and you have to learn how to use scrypt
 603 2014-01-09 08:57:24 <Diablo-D3> dont make the mistake ltc did
 604 2014-01-09 08:57:37 <shesek> definitely, its great to see somebody finally doing this
 605 2014-01-09 08:57:44 <Diablo-D3> yeah, its good someone is doing this
 606 2014-01-09 08:57:47 <Diablo-D3> just make sure you do it rightr
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 608 2014-01-09 08:58:13 <allanlw> Diablo-D3: why isn't bcrypt an option?
 609 2014-01-09 08:58:18 <Diablo-D3> allanlw: not secure enough
 610 2014-01-09 08:58:19 <shesek> I was actually planning to do something similar myself, but ended up doing a multisig implementation that's optimized for a third party arbitration
 611 2014-01-09 08:58:51 <shesek> great to see someone else taking the initiative
 612 2014-01-09 08:59:07 <shesek> I got to go, running late to a meeting
 613 2014-01-09 08:59:09 <Diablo-D3> allanlw: its basically key stretched blowfish
 614 2014-01-09 08:59:12 <allanlw> Diablo-D3: from what I've read they have similar amounts of security
 615 2014-01-09 08:59:15 <shesek> good luck!
 616 2014-01-09 08:59:24 <Diablo-D3> blowfish has not been sufficiently proven imo
 617 2014-01-09 08:59:54 <Diablo-D3> and to be fair, neither has scrypt or sha3
 618 2014-01-09 09:00:08 <Diablo-D3> which is why I went straight for the largest sha2 and key stretch that
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 620 2014-01-09 09:00:39 <allanlw> Diablo-D3: fair, although even if you used bcrypt it's not exactly the weak point in this whole scheme
 621 2014-01-09 09:00:48 <Diablo-D3> yeah probably
 622 2014-01-09 09:00:54 <Diablo-D3> but you want at least 20 years of security
 623 2014-01-09 09:01:03 <allanlw> I mean what with doing this in javascript in a web page, etc
 624 2014-01-09 09:01:12 <allanlw> Diablo-D3: sure, yeah okay, I'll agree with that
 625 2014-01-09 09:01:13 <Diablo-D3> yeah, javascript cant be trusted here
 626 2014-01-09 09:01:17 <jcorgan> swulf--: also, read bip0038 for ideas in this area, though that bip is likely to be superceded by something else
 627 2014-01-09 09:01:34 <Diablo-D3> what you'd also want is an offline program in very simple C that is, say, command line
 628 2014-01-09 09:01:58 <allanlw> I'm kind of surprised there isn't an accepted bip for this
 629 2014-01-09 09:01:59 <Diablo-D3> just in case the website is compromised you can still do shit
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 631 2014-01-09 09:02:09 <Diablo-D3> allanlw: the problem is kinda difficult
 632 2014-01-09 09:02:45 <Diablo-D3> and there are people in here who also would say pbkdf2 + sha512 isnt secure enough
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 634 2014-01-09 09:05:17 <allanlw> I mean the primative choices here are kind of meaningless
 635 2014-01-09 09:05:28 <allanlw> this is all very similar to the GGM construction
 636 2014-01-09 09:05:43 <allanlw> and you probably want algorithmic agility anyway
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 638 2014-01-09 09:07:04 <allanlw> (by GGM I mean Goldreich-Goldwasser-Micali : https://crypto.stanford.edu/pbc/notes/crypto/ggm.xhtml)
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 719 2014-01-09 11:11:56 <warren> sipa: suggesting some kind of resource leak
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 785 2014-01-09 12:59:47 <warren> sipa: confirmed, bitcoin master gets stuck
 786 2014-01-09 12:59:54 <warren> sipa: same symptoms
 787 2014-01-09 13:00:20 <warren> I guess I can be blamed for causing this bug.
 788 2014-01-09 13:02:35 <swulf--> jcorgan: no worries... I'm not taking any offense to any of the suggestions here. They're all wise ones:)
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 931 2014-01-09 16:36:29 <t7> the whole doge thing got outa hand about 6 months ago
 932 2014-01-09 16:36:52 <Diablo-D3> and never stopped being out of hand
 933 2014-01-09 16:37:04 <brisque> t7: it's an interesting social comment that people keep repeating it.
 934 2014-01-09 16:39:25 <t7> it makes me sad
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 937 2014-01-09 16:40:03 <t7> i dont know why that meme irks me so much
 938 2014-01-09 16:40:08 <brisque> it's the low mental barrier of entry I think. it requires no thought to strip grammar and follow the pattern.
 939 2014-01-09 16:40:08 <t7> i can deal with most others
 940 2014-01-09 16:40:20 <t7> ah maybe
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 995 2014-01-09 17:42:02 <wallet42> i think doge is quite an interesting phenomen
 996 2014-01-09 17:42:34 <wallet42> also if keeping this in mind https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-data-science/the-evolution-of-memes-on-facebook/10151988334203859
 997 2014-01-09 17:43:46 <wallet42> its sure that it wont be there forever
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1000 2014-01-09 17:44:47 <wallet42> and just like watching old pictures of people wearing clothes or hairstyles that were "trendy" 20 years ago
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1002 2014-01-09 17:45:38 <wallet42> ppl will feel embarrased after the trend has passed
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1081 2014-01-09 19:35:19 <lechuga__> is any1 aware of anything similar to -printblock but will work with any arbitrarily passed hex encoded block field?
1082 2014-01-09 19:35:38 <lechuga__> such that i could dump a CTransaction or just a single CTxIn etc
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1084 2014-01-09 19:37:41 <sipa> lechuga__: fetchtx.info
1085 2014-01-09 19:39:17 <lechuga__> eh i was more looking for something to dump the datastructure and not a real txn on the network
1086 2014-01-09 19:39:28 <sipa> it works for arbitrary transactions
1087 2014-01-09 19:39:30 <lechuga__> like any arbitrarily serialized field
1088 2014-01-09 19:39:47 <sipa> first fetch one, click raw transaction, and edit the field
1089 2014-01-09 19:40:53 <andytoshi> lechuga__: you need to know which data structure you are dealing with, as they are not tagged, then it's a fairly straightforward programming task to do the decoding..
1090 2014-01-09 19:41:09 <lechuga__> hah perfect
1091 2014-01-09 19:41:17 <lechuga__> sipa: thanks!
1092 2014-01-09 19:41:25 <andytoshi> there is the 'decoderawtransaction' RPC which does what you want for transactions
1093 2014-01-09 19:41:27 <andytoshi> fwiw
1094 2014-01-09 19:41:36 <lechuga__> ah is that all fetchtx is using?
1095 2014-01-09 19:41:43 <sipa> no
1096 2014-01-09 19:42:04 <sipa> fetchtx.info gives quite a bit more ifnormation, and nicelier structured
1097 2014-01-09 19:42:16 <sipa> (it actually shows you how it maps to bytes)
1098 2014-01-09 19:42:31 <lechuga__> it is rather nice, k
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1113 2014-01-09 20:05:54 <wallet42> ah very nice fetchtx
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1115 2014-01-09 20:06:09 <wallet42> kudos to dev
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1164 2014-01-09 21:02:41 <Happzz> what did 0.8.6 fix?
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1166 2014-01-09 21:12:46 <sipa> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/03a7d673876dc8fbae876290b455c02b0cac80bd/doc/release-notes.md
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1169 2014-01-09 21:14:27 <tiyoT> quick question, is there a software/api/protocol exist out there that can trigger something when particular btc address (eg our own) receive payment. Eg, tell my website backend to add +100gil to User1 when my btc address receive 0.1 btc.
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1171 2014-01-09 21:18:53 <upb> website backend really means php script?
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1261 2014-01-09 23:49:36 <sipa> ;;calc [diff]*2**48/65535
1262 2014-01-09 23:49:37 <gribble> Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
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1264 2014-01-09 23:49:39 <sipa> ;;diff
1265 2014-01-09 23:49:40 <gribble> 1.4184813952626355E9
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1268 2014-01-09 23:50:07 <sipa> ;;calc log(1.41848*10**9*2**32)/log(2)
1269 2014-01-09 23:50:07 <gribble> 62.4016986633
1270 2014-01-09 23:50:33 <sipa> ;;nethash
1271 2014-01-09 23:50:34 <gribble> 13825207.9898
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