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13 2014-01-16 00:19:10 <lechuga__> any1 up for a question about contracts?
14 2014-01-16 00:20:10 <lechuga__> quiet in here today
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30 2014-01-16 00:47:26 <realazthat> sipa: I am designing a mock RPC api to simulate the fork and other test-cases
31 2014-01-16 00:47:35 <realazthat> seems most reliable to me
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35 2014-01-16 00:47:59 <realazthat> just in case you wanted to know how I went about t hat
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38 2014-01-16 00:49:46 <sipa> realazthat: hmm, i once implemented a blacklistblock RPC, which instants marks a block as invalid and reorganizes away from it
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41 2014-01-16 00:51:36 <realazthat> sipa: heh interesting
42 2014-01-16 00:51:48 <realazthat> but still not really as useful for unit-testing another application I think
43 2014-01-16 00:52:09 <realazthat> this way I can simply make some mock blockchain, no need for it to even use valid hashes or anything
44 2014-01-16 00:52:28 <realazthat> just the amounts, addresses matter, essentially
45 2014-01-16 00:53:04 <sipa> ok
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47 2014-01-16 00:53:16 <realazthat> sipa: is there anyone recording all known blocks, so that if there is a fork, the bad blocks are recorded
48 2014-01-16 00:53:27 <realazthat> just curious
49 2014-01-16 00:54:47 <sipa> every bitcoind records all blocks it sees
50 2014-01-16 00:55:18 <sipa> well, all blocks which at least validate syntactic correctness and PoW, and connect to the genesis block
51 2014-01-16 00:55:28 <realazthat> right, but if you restart it from scratch it won't get those, am I wrong?
52 2014-01-16 00:55:39 <sipa> no
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63 2014-01-16 01:18:21 <jcorgan> sipa: are there bip0032 test vectors that exercise CKD' ?
64 2014-01-16 01:18:52 <sipa> if you want them to
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66 2014-01-16 01:19:21 <sipa> for any non-prime derivation, you can either use CKD on the parent private key, or CKD' on the public key
67 2014-01-16 01:19:26 <sipa> and the result must be the same
68 2014-01-16 01:19:36 <jcorgan> got it, made sense after I though about it for a bit
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70 2014-01-16 01:25:51 <jcorgan> is there intended to be a different meaning between 'm' and 'M' ?
71 2014-01-16 01:26:08 <sipa> m is private, M is public
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73 2014-01-16 01:26:32 <jcorgan> as in return the extended public key vs. extended private key?
74 2014-01-16 01:26:48 <sipa> not "return"
75 2014-01-16 01:26:52 <sipa> they're variable name
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77 2014-01-16 01:27:10 <sipa> but typically lower case is used for private ones, and upper case for public ones
78 2014-01-16 01:27:30 <jcorgan> sorry, i'm trying to wrap my bip32 code into a cli program, and pass the chain identifier as a cli argument
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80 2014-01-16 01:28:34 <jcorgan> so i'm writing something that evaluates a given chain string for correctness, and then a parser to return some output regarding it
81 2014-01-16 01:28:57 <sipa> ok
82 2014-01-16 01:29:21 <sipa> so in these chain strings that start with m or M
83 2014-01-16 01:29:30 <sipa> those represent the xprv or xpub of the master
84 2014-01-16 01:29:45 <jcorgan> thought so
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94 2014-01-16 01:40:14 <jcorgan> if I handed someone the xpubkey generated from m/0'/1, they could generate the pubkeys for m/0'/1/i, but they wouldn't really need to know that the chain was rooted at m/0'/1 to do it other than to get the depth and identifier right. So I'm trying to think of a good way for the user to supply that information to generate a subkey when all they have is a xprvkey or xpubkey somewhere down in the hierarchy
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97 2014-01-16 01:41:26 <sipa> why do they need to know what lies above what you've given them?
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99 2014-01-16 01:42:03 <jcorgan> i don't think they do, but there are fields in the serialization that ask for depth and parent identifier
100 2014-01-16 01:42:38 <sipa> yes, so they know
101 2014-01-16 01:42:49 <sipa> i'm not sure what you're trying to do
102 2014-01-16 01:44:21 <jcorgan> i want to be able to some something like: $ hdwgen -f xpubkey.bin 5 to generate /5 xpubkey under whatever node xpubkey.bin refers to
103 2014-01-16 01:45:21 <jcorgan> ah, just pull the depth and ident out of the xpubkey.bin
104 2014-01-16 01:47:10 <jcorgan> so if you are starting from the master key, you'd have m/..., but if you're just starting with an xprvkey or xpubkey from somewhere in the hierarchy, you could just specifiy the "relative" path continuing from there
105 2014-01-16 01:47:14 <jcorgan> right?
106 2014-01-16 01:47:55 <sipa> ye
107 2014-01-16 01:47:56 <sipa> yes
108 2014-01-16 01:47:56 <jcorgan> i might be overthinking this
109 2014-01-16 01:48:20 <sipa> i implemented that in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/3520
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111 2014-01-16 01:48:49 <sipa> you can pass xpub6ASuArnXKPbfEwhqN6e3mwBcDTgzisQN1wXN9BJcM47sSikHjJf3UFHKkNAWbWMiGj7Wf5uMash7SyYq527Hqck2AxYysAA7xmALppuCkwQ/2/3'/10000/0/1
112 2014-01-16 01:48:56 <jcorgan> ah, nice, ima gonna steal from that
113 2014-01-16 01:49:08 <sipa> well, no, you can't do prime derivations from an xpub
114 2014-01-16 01:49:17 <jcorgan> i get your point though
115 2014-01-16 01:49:33 <sipa> good!
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118 2014-01-16 01:50:09 <sipa> phantomcircuit: can you have a look again at #2966?
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121 2014-01-16 01:50:40 <jcorgan> so my program give the user the ability to supply the xpubkey or xprvkey from a file or stdin, or to supply entropy either from a file or stdin when creating a master
122 2014-01-16 01:51:25 <jcorgan> to duplicate what you said above, they'd supply the xpub... in one cli, then '2/3'/10000/0/1' as the chain spec
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128 2014-01-16 01:52:05 <jcorgan> thanks for clarifying.
129 2014-01-16 01:52:09 <sipa> that hdderive command just takes [keyspec][/path[/path[...]]
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131 2014-01-16 01:52:27 <sipa> where keyspec is either an xpub or xprv in base58, or a seed in hex
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135 2014-01-16 01:53:44 <jcorgan> my Python utility is about the same, but a little more generalized
136 2014-01-16 01:53:55 <sipa> oki
137 2014-01-16 01:54:53 <jcorgan> like being able to generate the master xpub and xprv by supplying entropy
138 2014-01-16 01:55:39 <jcorgan> and outputting different things about a generated node (secret, pubkey, chain code, addr, etc.)
139 2014-01-16 01:56:11 <sipa> yup, that rpc command does all that too :)
140 2014-01-16 01:56:19 <jcorgan> i'm sure :)
141 2014-01-16 01:56:30 <sipa> anyway, not trying to discourage you at all
142 2014-01-16 01:56:39 <sipa> it's much more useful to have that as an external tool
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144 2014-01-16 01:56:51 <jcorgan> this started as an exercise to understand the bip, it's grown into an effort to make playing with these things scriptable
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149 2014-01-16 01:57:58 <jcorgan> i've even had the notion to wrap a FUSE filesystem around it, so you could recursivly descend into nodes and the various parameters would be files you could read, like /proc
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153 2014-01-16 01:59:07 <jcorgan> so you could "mount" an xpubkey, xprvkey, or entropy source, then do everything else with cat :)
154 2014-01-16 01:59:23 <jcorgan> and cd
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156 2014-01-16 02:01:14 <jcorgan> that's a neat idea (and I'm a big fan of FUSE), but I have no idea if it is really useful
157 2014-01-16 02:01:28 <sipa> i've written fuse filesystems before too :)
158 2014-01-16 02:01:42 <sipa> here i think it's a little bit overkill though
159 2014-01-16 02:02:32 <gmaxwell> a fuse block explorer would be more amusing.
160 2014-01-16 02:03:11 <jcorgan> you are in a maze of twisty hex passages, all alike
161 2014-01-16 02:03:19 <gmaxwell> sipa: I forget, did addr index also index the spending transactions?
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215 2014-01-16 03:39:35 <warren> sipa: for the leveldb patching, we commit to bitcoin/leveldb first then subtree merge squash to bitcoin?
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217 2014-01-16 03:41:21 <warren> This is a bit issue is disruptive to master testing so I hope it can be merged soon.
218 2014-01-16 03:41:29 <warren> errr english
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261 2014-01-16 05:14:42 <jgarzik> sipa, heh, cool. FUSE is a lot of fun. I wrote "dbfs": Local filesystem with POSIX semantics, implemented using Berkeley DB 4 over FUSE.
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263 2014-01-16 05:15:14 <jgarzik> did the same for "fuse-ext2", which is a POSIX filesystem implemented using userspace e2fsprogs library
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265 2014-01-16 05:16:49 * jgarzik has written several kernel and userspace filesystems. Terribly interesting work, where genius data structure work is torn apart and smashed into pudding by hardware that lies to you
266 2014-01-16 05:17:39 <jgarzik> http://linux.yyz.us/projects.html
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342 2014-01-16 07:16:14 <abrkn> is github user vbuterin ever on irc?
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344 2014-01-16 07:16:38 <Luke-Jr> abrkn: rarely
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349 2014-01-16 07:21:40 <sipa> jgarzik: for backuppc, a pretty nice deduplicating incremental backupservice written in perl, i wrote a filesystem in fuse-perl to mount it
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358 2014-01-16 07:33:52 <abrkn> Luke-Jr: i see. he is not responding to pull requests
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363 2014-01-16 07:38:17 <warren> sipa: shoot. using SSTFileName actually doesn't prevent the renaming
364 2014-01-16 07:38:27 <warren> sipa: patching s/ldb/sst/ did
365 2014-01-16 07:39:06 <sipa> really?
366 2014-01-16 07:39:17 <sipa> that's unexpected
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368 2014-01-16 07:42:22 <warren> retesting
369 2014-01-16 07:43:16 <warren> sipa: http://0bin.net/paste/kpbM-Uh5EYAsGLwh#nuidR/3rIa9imn7upS8cGu/wYV8vulRARXvcRYDRXao= this is what you meant right?
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373 2014-01-16 07:48:22 <abrkn> is it possible to have bitcoind always send change to a specific address?
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409 2014-01-16 08:26:40 <sipa> warren: yes
410 2014-01-16 08:26:55 <warren> sipa: yeah, not working here.
411 2014-01-16 08:27:00 <sipa> abrkn: yes, if you change the code, but don't do that
412 2014-01-16 08:27:23 <sipa> warren: thanks, i'll have a look later today
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414 2014-01-16 08:28:02 <abrkn> sipa: what would be a disadvantage?
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417 2014-01-16 08:28:35 <abrkn> sipa: aside from loss of pseudonymity
418 2014-01-16 08:30:16 <wumpus> there are tons fo threads about why not to reuse addresses, please do your own research as well
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420 2014-01-16 08:32:10 <warren> wumpus: hmm, renaming them back to .sst failed yesterday, but today it worked.
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422 2014-01-16 08:32:59 <warren> cd ~/.bitcoin; for file in $(find -name '*.ldb'); do mv $file $(echo $file |sed 's/ldb$/sst/'); done
423 2014-01-16 08:33:00 <wumpus> let's hope that you did something wrong, and not even that is non-deterministic
424 2014-01-16 08:33:51 <abrkn> our wallet.dat's getting pretty big at justcoin and im trying to find a better system. was thinking generating addresses with bip32, but then we need to find inputs and construct tx' which is a pain and most people advice against
425 2014-01-16 08:34:33 <abrkn> alternatively can use bip32 to create disposable addresses and routinely sweep them up in a hot wallet chain
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428 2014-01-16 08:35:43 <wumpus> slowing of wallet.dat's is mostly on number of transactions, number of keys shouldn't make much of a difference
429 2014-01-16 08:36:50 <warren> wumpus: hmm, should we switch the linux gitian intermediates to .zip for determinism?
430 2014-01-16 08:37:07 <wumpus> warren: yes
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432 2014-01-16 08:38:47 <wumpus> and number of transactions doesn't change by using a different key generation scheme; the bitcoind wallet just doesn't scale that well, and a change like 'send the change to a fixed address' isn't going to resolve that
433 2014-01-16 08:40:32 <wumpus> I'm not sure what to recommend either
434 2014-01-16 08:42:27 <warren> i'm sleeping early tonight
435 2014-01-16 08:42:31 <warren> ttyl
436 2014-01-16 08:42:33 <abrkn> wumpus: alternative is to do our own input management, but things like having to re-broadcast tx'...
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438 2014-01-16 08:42:43 <wumpus> if you skip the wallet and build and sign transactions using the raw transaction API instead you can build your own well-scaling system on top, but yes you need a way to keep track of inputs, I'm sure someone else did this before and can comment
439 2014-01-16 08:43:44 <abrkn> perhaps if sending using sendraw does the re-broadcasting for me, then i would benefit from bitcoind without bloating the wallet
440 2014-01-16 08:45:26 <wumpus> IIRC it only re-broadcasts sendrawtransaction'ed transactions if the wallet accepts them
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442 2014-01-16 08:46:21 <wumpus> (yes, it's the wallet that does the re-broadcasting)
443 2014-01-16 08:46:29 <abrkn> ok
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547 2014-01-16 11:25:57 <CodeShark> was a major LevelDB issue recently fixed with the master branch?
548 2014-01-16 11:28:15 <Eagle[TM]> 0.8.6 fixed/hardened things for Mac regarding LevelDB iirc, not sure about master
549 2014-01-16 11:29:34 <CodeShark> master from last week (I can get the exact commit id) was causing my system to hang on linux, with a process that simply could not be killed
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551 2014-01-16 11:30:16 <Apocalyptic> CodeShark, every process can be killed
552 2014-01-16 11:30:24 <CodeShark> not this one :P
553 2014-01-16 11:30:26 <Apocalyptic> with -9 kill
554 2014-01-16 11:30:28 <CodeShark> nope
555 2014-01-16 11:30:39 <CodeShark> not if there's a problem with hardware
556 2014-01-16 11:30:42 <CodeShark> :p
557 2014-01-16 11:30:46 <Apocalyptic> wait, you sent SIGKILL and it didn't kill ?
558 2014-01-16 11:30:50 <Apocalyptic> hum yeah
559 2014-01-16 11:30:56 <Apocalyptic> but that shouldn't happen
560 2014-01-16 11:31:02 <CodeShark> famous last words
561 2014-01-16 11:31:07 <CodeShark> I assure you it WAS happening - I'
562 2014-01-16 11:31:25 <CodeShark> I was running it under VirtualBox, never had that problem before
563 2014-01-16 11:31:36 <Eagle[TM]> linux-vserver or similar?
564 2014-01-16 11:31:42 <Apocalyptic> you tried to reproduce it N
565 2014-01-16 11:32:16 <CodeShark> I was just trying to do a sync, would sync some and then would just hang
566 2014-01-16 11:32:27 <CodeShark> as in, kill -9 would not work
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568 2014-01-16 11:32:57 <CodeShark> I thought perhaps I was running out of disk space, cleared out someâ¦but it still was happening
569 2014-01-16 11:33:17 <CodeShark> otherwise, this system is extremely stable and well-behaved
570 2014-01-16 11:33:36 <Eagle[TM]> strace might be helpful for some pointers
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573 2014-01-16 11:34:37 <wumpus> indeed, if it hangs in the kernel on an uninterruptible operation, you cannot kill it in any way
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575 2014-01-16 11:35:17 <CodeShark> I'm now running the latest master head, haven't seen the issue again yet
576 2014-01-16 11:35:54 <wumpus> this tended to happen with NFS volumes when the server is unreachable, before there was an option for that
577 2014-01-16 11:36:07 <CodeShark> the commit that seems to have been causing problems is 8da2b3316c6540684617a8ecb8edb458894c2009
578 2014-01-16 11:36:23 <wumpus> normally, it should be impossible to cause that with user-space problem
579 2014-01-16 11:36:46 <CodeShark> the volume still had at least a few gigs left
580 2014-01-16 11:37:05 <CodeShark> so I don't think that was the issue
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582 2014-01-16 11:37:33 <wumpus> I doubt it's caused by disk space, usually it's a communication problem somewhere between the file system and the backing storage
583 2014-01-16 11:37:42 <wumpus> dmesg may show something
584 2014-01-16 11:38:03 <CodeShark> I've since restarted this machine
585 2014-01-16 11:38:04 <wumpus> for example a i/o problem or segfault in the kernel
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587 2014-01-16 11:38:40 <CodeShark> perhaps I'll try running the problematic build again and run these tools
588 2014-01-16 11:39:16 <CodeShark> just want to see whether this newer build remains stable for a little while longer
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590 2014-01-16 11:41:16 <CodeShark> seems some of the orphan block processing stuff changed
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592 2014-01-16 11:44:01 <CodeShark> oh waitâ¦I pasted the wrong commit id
593 2014-01-16 11:44:03 <CodeShark> it's e8837b384dc045a0b970b19a64844d11e2da99b3
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765 2014-01-16 16:52:22 <niston> If I have an address with BTC1000 in it, then do a payment to some other address of BTC0.01 and forget to include a change address for BTC999.99, then my transaction will have those BTC999.99 as fee. Correct?
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767 2014-01-16 16:54:31 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|niston: If the 1000 BTC is one output and you're creating the transaction manually, yes
768 2014-01-16 16:55:00 <niston> okay :)
769 2014-01-16 16:55:43 <lianj> yea, its over then :)
770 2014-01-16 16:56:15 <lianj> although there were cases where a friendly miner gave those obvious mistaken fee back
771 2014-01-16 16:56:20 <niston> the reward would go to the miner (or pool) that mines the block with my transaction in it?
772 2014-01-16 16:56:21 <lianj> but don't bet on it
773 2014-01-16 16:56:28 <lianj> yes
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775 2014-01-16 16:57:21 <niston> so to mine a block, I need to find the nonce that makes the hash of the whole block, whereas the individual TX hashes are stored as the merkle tree, satisfy the target requirement.
776 2014-01-16 16:58:07 <niston> thus it becomes hard to fake or alter the block, cause the changed merkle root would require a new nonce for the block to be valid.
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778 2014-01-16 16:59:37 <niston> plus the original block will be long distributed to many many nodes, whereas any following block will be linked to the original block due to the previous hash embedded in each block.
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780 2014-01-16 17:00:17 <niston> so it will be very difficult to insert the faked block, even if I eventually manage to compute a nonce that makes my fake block valid.
781 2014-01-16 17:01:13 <niston> I guess its possible for a given block to be uncomputable, means no nonce that satisfies target requirement can be found?
782 2014-01-16 17:01:38 <niston> should happen all the time, the solution (to mining the block) being to change something in the block that affects the merkle root?
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784 2014-01-16 17:07:25 <helo> that's one
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796 2014-01-16 17:29:58 <TD> sipa: ping
797 2014-01-16 17:31:48 <lechuga__> is passing around unsigned/partially signed multiparty input txns via QR code prior to broadcast a crazy idea?
798 2014-01-16 17:32:11 <lechuga__> like full hex encoded txns
799 2014-01-16 17:33:16 <TD> qrcodes are very limited in size
800 2014-01-16 17:33:28 <lechuga__> isnt it like 3k
801 2014-01-16 17:33:40 <TD> the more data you try and add the less scannable they become
802 2014-01-16 17:33:46 <lechuga__> ic
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804 2014-01-16 17:35:15 <lechuga__> trying to figure out how contracts r going to work from a UX perspective
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815 2014-01-16 17:44:55 <danwalton> what is the purpose of COINBASE_MATURITY?
816 2014-01-16 17:45:00 <danwalton> seems like a long time to wait
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821 2014-01-16 17:55:05 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|danwalton: Essentially, to reduce the chances of a block ending up no longer on the best chain
822 2014-01-16 17:55:14 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|Which means that the generated coins are invalid
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825 2014-01-16 17:55:37 <danwalton> so mine a block, then find out all your blocks are orphans
826 2014-01-16 17:55:39 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|Which could mean a very long chain of transactions suddenly gets wiped out non-maliciously
827 2014-01-16 17:55:50 <danwalton> how often does that happen?
828 2014-01-16 17:56:02 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|danwalton: Short forks happen regularly
829 2014-01-16 17:56:05 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|(usually just one block)
830 2014-01-16 17:56:10 <danwalton> right
831 2014-01-16 17:56:21 <danwalton> i guess in the case of a bug, you might have a very long fork
832 2014-01-16 17:56:32 <danwalton> this seems like its to allow for certain types of emergencies
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834 2014-01-16 17:56:39 <danwalton> big forks
835 2014-01-16 17:56:44 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|The thing is, with most transactions, a reorg just means that a transaction is no longer confirmed
836 2014-01-16 17:56:53 <danwalton> right
837 2014-01-16 17:56:56 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|But the transaction is still valid and can get into future blocks
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840 2014-01-16 17:57:08 <danwalton> because all the peers are honestly making sure that everyone isn't double spending
841 2014-01-16 17:57:11 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|That can't happen when a coinbase transaction is involved, because that transaction ceases to exist
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849 2014-01-16 18:04:36 <dmanderson> You can still do a 33% attack
850 2014-01-16 18:04:43 <dmanderson> using a greedy pool
851 2014-01-16 18:05:03 <dmanderson> is this true?
852 2014-01-16 18:05:20 <dmanderson> *selfish pool
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870 2014-01-16 18:10:47 <xyz> I'm trying to build LevelDB for Windows with MSVC following the instructions at https://github.com/bitcoin/leveldb/blob/bitcoin-fork/WINDOWS.md but it doesn't work because there are no project/solution files; what do?
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875 2014-01-16 18:11:35 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|xyz: Good luck trying to build in MSVC...
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884 2014-01-16 18:15:54 <bbdude> hey BlueMatt, what are the coingen.io coins a fork of?
885 2014-01-16 18:16:51 <blazon> the newest release for respective choice
886 2014-01-16 18:17:16 <xyz> michagogo|cloud: I know, right
887 2014-01-16 18:17:25 <xyz> I guess I'll go with official way of building it (with boost libs)
888 2014-01-16 18:17:51 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|bbdude: 0.8.6, I believe
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894 2014-01-16 18:19:44 <bbdude> michagogo|cloud, ah even says it on the debug window, heh. Thanks!
895 2014-01-16 18:20:07 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|np
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903 2014-01-16 18:28:25 <sipa> TD[gone]: pang
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908 2014-01-16 18:30:42 <bbdude> anyone frequent the hackathons here?
909 2014-01-16 18:30:59 <bbdude> Anyone going to any upcoming ones? It'd be cool to see some coin hacks!
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911 2014-01-16 18:33:41 <sevenqueue> dunno about the hackathons but the latest git pull of bitcoin on testnet has me 4 weeks behind and stuck on 153816 debug shows nothing but orphan blocks
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930 2014-01-16 18:45:42 <helo> sevenqueue: attempting sync now
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933 2014-01-16 18:48:50 <sevenqueue> should I wait a while? is there orphan block testing going on?
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940 2014-01-16 18:55:28 <sevenqueue> github email says there was a testnet issue, wonder if that is what I'm hitting?
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965 2014-01-16 19:14:14 <shesek> which mode is causing that "#bitcoin-dev :Cannot change nickname while banned on channel"? its super annoying :-\
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969 2014-01-16 19:15:47 <gmaxwell> shesek: need to leave the channel to change nick or register with nickserv
970 2014-01-16 19:16:03 <dbasch> I just put together a standalone implementation of BIP38 in Java, if anyone is interested. It barely works, and it needs test cases: https://github.com/dbasch/BIP38
971 2014-01-16 19:16:05 <gmaxwell> you can register with nickserv without changing nick by giving it the username with the password.
972 2014-01-16 19:17:49 <shesek> I'm already registered to nickserv, and that is why I left the channel - to change my nickname and identify (I was execut3 a moment ago)
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976 2014-01-16 19:23:11 <shesek> gmaxwell, oh, did you mean to identify when you said register? I think I misunderstood you
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991 2014-01-16 19:36:01 <lechuga__> looks like my galaxy note3 has no prob scanning a QR code which is a base58check encoded raw transaction
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993 2014-01-16 19:38:44 <lianj> lechuga__: maybe youre lucky and have a small tx. meaning one input + 1 or 2 outputs
994 2014-01-16 19:39:46 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|lechuga__: Heh, a raw transaction in base58check?
995 2014-01-16 19:40:04 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|Never heard of that being done so far
996 2014-01-16 19:40:37 <sipa> for QR, uou're better off with base36
997 2014-01-16 19:43:12 <lechuga__> lianj: the type of txn im going to be working with is always 2 txins + 1 txout
998 2014-01-16 19:43:32 <lechuga__> sipa: ah true
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1001 2014-01-16 19:45:41 <lechuga__> michagogolcloud: im trying to design a quasi-sensible UX for multiparty contracts
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1003 2014-01-16 19:46:41 <lechuga__> well 2party in this case
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1005 2014-01-16 19:47:55 <lechuga__> not convinced this is correct but sketching it up to convince/unconvince myself
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1021 2014-01-16 19:59:46 <jaakkos> hmm. in the stealth address doc, it says: "we use BIP32-style derivation to create Q'=(Q+c)G" but since Q is EC point and c is integer, how is Q+c interpreted?
1022 2014-01-16 20:00:51 <jaakkos> should that be just Q+cG or something?
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1024 2014-01-16 20:02:25 <jaakkos> also, what if we forget about DH and simply use Q' = Q*c and publish c?
1025 2014-01-16 20:03:02 <sipa> that doesn't give you privacy
1026 2014-01-16 20:03:15 <sipa> anyone can detect payments to you, in that case
1027 2014-01-16 20:03:23 <jcorgan> jaakos: that's a typo, should be (d+c)G I think
1028 2014-01-16 20:03:43 <jaakkos> sipa: but how would third parties figure out Q?
1029 2014-01-16 20:04:12 <jaakkos> (Q*c)/c should be difficult, right?
1030 2014-01-16 20:04:31 <sipa> it's trivial
1031 2014-01-16 20:04:41 <sipa> you multiply by (1/c) mod n
1032 2014-01-16 20:05:18 <jaakkos> meh indeed it is (Q*c)/Q that is difficult. my bad.
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1035 2014-01-16 20:07:03 <jaakkos> jcorgan: yeah that's what i thought
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1037 2014-01-16 20:07:35 <jcorgan> Q' = (d+c)G => dG + cG => Q + P
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1039 2014-01-16 20:08:26 <jaakkos> c was not used in any key yet
1040 2014-01-16 20:08:51 <jaakkos> it was derived from the DH secret.
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1043 2014-01-16 20:08:56 <jaakkos> so cG != P
1044 2014-01-16 20:09:14 <jaakkos> in the document eG = P
1045 2014-01-16 20:09:22 <jcorgan> my bad
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1054 2014-01-16 20:21:30 <jspilman> this might help: https://gist.github.com/jspilman/8396495
1055 2014-01-16 20:22:35 <jspilman> toy implementation in bitcoind coming soon
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1089 2014-01-16 20:59:09 <lechuga__> any1 know what channel mycelium devs hang out on?
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1094 2014-01-16 21:04:22 <ferroh> So I'm guessing this transaction will never confirm: https://blockchain.info/tx/79fbda85a003e24a8ceaae58dba988acedbd04778dfc68bbd1970b2af05f41ef
1095 2014-01-16 21:04:35 <ferroh> It was sent by blockchain.info shared send. Can someone shed some light on why it will never confirm?
1096 2014-01-16 21:04:47 <ferroh> I would like to be able to detect these types of transactions
1097 2014-01-16 21:04:59 <ferroh> (and not accept them if I they aren't likely to confirm)
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1102 2014-01-16 21:13:05 <shesek> ferroh, the inputs were spent in other transactions that was confirmed
1103 2014-01-16 21:13:49 <shesek> the transaction you linked to is now considered invalid
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1105 2014-01-16 21:16:44 <Denim-jdev> if you want to detect it, you would detect it the same way as a double-spend attack
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1114 2014-01-16 21:28:08 <ferroh> Denim-jdev, shesek: Does it look like this was done maliciously?
1115 2014-01-16 21:28:28 <ferroh> Denim-jdev: What is an easy way to check for a double-spend attack?
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1117 2014-01-16 21:30:56 <newbie__> How to store some ascii data in the block chain?
1118 2014-01-16 21:31:04 <sipa> don't
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1120 2014-01-16 21:31:17 <newbie__> what about transaction messages?
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1122 2014-01-16 21:31:23 <Ry4an> those aren't in the blockchain
1123 2014-01-16 21:31:28 <Ry4an> they're only on that website you're looking at
1124 2014-01-16 21:31:55 <newbie__> for a couple of years ago I saw some attack where Dan Kaminsky stored some ascii art in the block chain
1125 2014-01-16 21:32:02 <sipa> yeah, he did
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1130 2014-01-16 21:34:21 <shesek> ferroh, re "Does it look like this was done maliciously?" - seems like it was sent eventually to the same addresses, so I assume not
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1134 2014-01-16 21:39:02 <ferroh> shesek: Is there a way that I can ask this user (who is using blockchain.info's wallet) to resend this? Or do I need to wait for the transaction to drop out of the memory pool
1135 2014-01-16 21:39:37 <shesek> ferroh, there's no way to re-send this transaction, the inputs are already spent
1136 2014-01-16 21:40:01 <ferroh> In other words, the user has already moved the coins that were "returned" to him
1137 2014-01-16 21:40:07 <ferroh> ?
1138 2014-01-16 21:41:49 <warren> sipa: did anyone look into the leveldb issue?
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1140 2014-01-16 21:42:28 <warren> sipa: I'm a bit concerned that issue will hamper the ability of more eyes to test master right now. If necessary I'll work on it today.
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1142 2014-01-16 21:43:02 <sipa> warren: sorry, too tired now
1143 2014-01-16 21:43:28 <warren> sipa: how important is it that we retain .ldb support?
1144 2014-01-16 21:43:51 <sevenqueue> what is the proper github clone for the master?
1145 2014-01-16 21:44:04 <warren> sevenqueue: what is your goal?
1146 2014-01-16 21:44:25 <sevenqueue> I'n on testnet now and lots of orphans
1147 2014-01-16 21:44:55 <sipa> sevenqueue: could you try whether #3514 helps?
1148 2014-01-16 21:45:10 <sevenqueue> I'll check
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1151 2014-01-16 21:49:13 <sipa> warren: i checked the source, if a db repair is attempted, everything is rewritten to .ldb
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1156 2014-01-16 21:55:26 <warren> sipa: do we really need to support .ldb in bitcoin?
1157 2014-01-16 21:55:42 <warren> sipa: let's write only .sst and rename .ldb to .sst if db repair
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1159 2014-01-16 21:56:07 <sipa> more code
1160 2014-01-16 21:56:14 <sipa> sec, i'm trying another patch
1161 2014-01-16 21:57:48 <sipa> warren: pullreq bitcoin/leveldb#3 updated
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1164 2014-01-16 21:59:07 <warren> sipa: testing
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1167 2014-01-16 21:59:48 <sipa> thanks!
1168 2014-01-16 22:00:06 <warren> sipa: yeah, that's what I tested originally
1169 2014-01-16 22:00:47 <sipa> ah, nice
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1173 2014-01-16 22:03:20 <warren> testing again
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1178 2014-01-16 22:07:11 <killerstorm> hi. can somebody tell me when OP_RETURN will be usable on mainnet? I mean, when is it expected to be 'available'
1179 2014-01-16 22:07:15 <killerstorm> in a month, two, never?
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1181 2014-01-16 22:08:51 <lechuga__> im not aware of any immediate plans for it to exist
1182 2014-01-16 22:08:52 <sipa> whenever people choose to run a release that allows it
1183 2014-01-16 22:09:04 <lechuga__> er be availablei shud say
1184 2014-01-16 22:09:24 <sipa> and since there is no release of the 0.9 codebase yet, it could be still some months
1185 2014-01-16 22:09:34 <lechuga__> is it standard in 0.9?
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1187 2014-01-16 22:10:24 <sipa> yes
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1189 2014-01-16 22:13:22 <killerstorm> when do you anticipate the release of 0.9?
1190 2014-01-16 22:13:49 <sipa> first release candidate sometime next month
1191 2014-01-16 22:13:58 <sipa> unless unexpected events
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1193 2014-01-16 22:15:03 <killerstorm> ok, thanks
1194 2014-01-16 22:16:15 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|What was the rule for the various files in a datadir, when copying from one place to another? Was it, chainstate/ not newer than blocks/index/, and blocks/index/ not newer than blocks/*.dat?
1195 2014-01-16 22:16:43 <sipa> michagogo|cloud: correct
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1197 2014-01-16 22:17:11 <michagogo> cloud!uid14316@wikia/Michagogo|sipa: thanks
1198 2014-01-16 22:17:58 <warren> sipa: crappppp
1199 2014-01-16 22:18:13 <warren> sipa: renamed my .ldb files back to .sst, 0.8.6 thinks it's corrupted
1200 2014-01-16 22:18:19 <warren> sipa: something else is incompatible
1201 2014-01-16 22:18:54 <warren> sipa: 2 out of 3 tries renaming back to .sst, 0.8.6 thinks it's corrupted.
1202 2014-01-16 22:18:56 <sipa> stop panicking
1203 2014-01-16 22:19:10 <warren> This isn't panic.
1204 2014-01-16 22:19:18 <sipa> ok
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1206 2014-01-16 22:20:11 <warren> I'm retaining a copy of this index and testing 0.8.6's index with the new patch again.
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1212 2014-01-16 22:24:34 <flound1129> how do I find the amount of tx fees in a block?
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1214 2014-01-16 22:26:02 <sipa> sum the values of all outputs of transactions, minus the sum of all inputs in transactions
1215 2014-01-16 22:26:06 <sipa> (excluding the coinbase)
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1217 2014-01-16 22:29:52 <warren> https://github.com/bitcoin/leveldb/pull/3#issuecomment-32553309
1218 2014-01-16 22:30:30 <sipa> thanks for testing
1219 2014-01-16 22:34:47 <jakov> shesek you're interested in multisig tx, have you seen that deepweb marketplace that coded an electrum plugin for it?
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1222 2014-01-16 22:36:28 <shesek> jakov, yeah, I did
1223 2014-01-16 22:37:12 <shesek> it looks quite complicated from the end-user's perspective though... they're required to setup a pair of keys elsewhere, copy/paste their public keys back to their interface
1224 2014-01-16 22:37:18 <shesek> then copy around raw transactions
1225 2014-01-16 22:38:33 <jakov> its not mentioned anywhere in bitcointalk.org, seems a shame since multisigs are useful for other stuff, its just a historical accident it came from a drugs marketplace
1226 2014-01-16 22:42:10 <jakov> i wonder if they should encode public keys in base58check
1227 2014-01-16 22:42:25 <jakov> since if theres an error in copying access to that money might be lost
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1230 2014-01-16 22:45:20 <shesek> its a good idea, but there's no standard version for that
1231 2014-01-16 22:45:54 <shesek> I asked about it awhile ago - http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.bitcoin.devel/2415
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1235 2014-01-16 22:47:32 <shesek> they could just make up a non-standard one, but that's probably a bad idea and will make it incompatible with other tools
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1237 2014-01-16 22:50:12 <jakov> what electrum version did you use TMP's plugin with?
1238 2014-01-16 22:51:20 <jakov> shesek in https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Base58Check_encoding#Version_bytes someone suggests 52 which would make it start with 4
1239 2014-01-16 22:51:27 <jakov> but i never found any other reference to it
1240 2014-01-16 22:52:05 <jakov> and noone replied to your mail
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1242 2014-01-16 22:53:10 <jakov> : (
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1244 2014-01-16 22:54:05 <jakov> the bitcoin developing machine seems to move slowly, understandable but sometimes i think its just better to do what casascius did and just do it without asking many people
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1258 2014-01-16 23:11:13 <sevenqueue> sipa with 3370 & 3514 it flys through the orphans but with testnet=1 in the conf it starts half in main and looks at the testnet data and tries to connect to mainnet nodes
1259 2014-01-16 23:11:26 <sevenqueue> if I att -testnet to the command line it starts in full testnet mode
1260 2014-01-16 23:11:39 <sipa> sevenqueue: are you sure you don't have your data dirs mixed up?
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1262 2014-01-16 23:11:54 <sevenqueue> ./src/qt/bitcoin-qt -conf=/home/myne/Miner/btc/data/testnet3/bitcoin.conf -datadir=/home/myne/Miner/btc/data/testnet3 &
1263 2014-01-16 23:12:09 <sevenqueue> if I add -testnet to that it goes into testnet
1264 2014-01-16 23:12:23 <sevenqueue> otherwise it tries to connect to mainnet but shows me my testnet wallet
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1268 2014-01-16 23:13:33 <warren> sipa: I guess go ahead and commit that leveldb patch?
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1270 2014-01-16 23:15:12 <sevenqueue> testnet=1 from the conf file
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1273 2014-01-16 23:15:42 <sevenqueue> I removed the leading space same result, needs -testnet on the command line to go full testnet mode
1274 2014-01-16 23:15:57 <sipa> sevenqueue: file a bug, please
1275 2014-01-16 23:16:04 <sevenqueue> will do
1276 2014-01-16 23:16:09 <helo> sevenqueue: fwiw, i synched git head on testnet just now
1277 2014-01-16 23:16:22 <sipa> maybe during the chainparams refactors, we lost the ability to specify -testnet in the config file
1278 2014-01-16 23:16:37 <helo> using testnet=1 in ~/.bitcoin/bitcoin.conf
1279 2014-01-16 23:16:46 <sipa> ah
1280 2014-01-16 23:17:03 <sipa> sevenqueue: you don't happen to have both a .../btc/data/testnet3 and .../btc/data/testnet3/testnet3 ?
1281 2014-01-16 23:17:34 <helo> i'm not specifying datadir on cli or config
1282 2014-01-16 23:18:29 <sevenqueue> hmmm, yes
1283 2014-01-16 23:18:48 <sipa> sevenqueue: my guess is that one is actually a mainnet datadir
1284 2014-01-16 23:19:00 <sipa> and the other a real testnet one
1285 2014-01-16 23:19:21 <sevenqueue> I'll remove them and start over and see what happens
1286 2014-01-16 23:19:27 <sipa> and adding -testnet on the command line vs in the config file... one changes the datadir and the other does not
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1288 2014-01-16 23:19:44 <sevenqueue> is that command line correct?
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1290 2014-01-16 23:19:58 <helo> i'd suggest not bothering with datadir
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1292 2014-01-16 23:20:21 <helo> or rather make it .../btc/data/
1293 2014-01-16 23:20:35 <sevenqueue> I moved the data onto a separate drive so when I refresh the vm I can just mount and continue
1294 2014-01-16 23:20:50 <helo> it will add the testnet3/ part on its own
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1296 2014-01-16 23:21:00 <sevenqueue> ah, I'll try
1297 2014-01-16 23:21:04 <sevenqueue> thanks
1298 2014-01-16 23:22:03 <sipa> warren: found what caused your "other incompatibility" ?
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1300 2014-01-16 23:23:19 <warren> sipa: no =(
1301 2014-01-16 23:23:43 <warren> sipa: can't reproduce it with your new patch either
1302 2014-01-16 23:23:51 <sipa> ok
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1306 2014-01-16 23:34:12 <sevenqueue> if I start the gui with this './src/qt/bitcoin-qt -datadir=/home/myne/Miner/btc/data &' where does it expect to find the conf?
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1308 2014-01-16 23:36:21 <sipa> in that directory
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1310 2014-01-16 23:37:12 <sevenqueue> ok, and the conf file I have in that directory has testnet=1 but it starts in mainnet, perhaps I should just start fresh
1311 2014-01-16 23:38:59 <sipa> well after the config file is read, the datadir doesn't change anymore i think
1312 2014-01-16 23:40:09 <sevenqueue> going to try without -datadir
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