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  63 2014-05-24 01:30:14 <warren> coryfields: that drops 10.6 compat?
  64 2014-05-24 01:30:21 <coryfields> no
  65 2014-05-24 01:30:25 <warren> ah
  66 2014-05-24 01:30:46 <coryfields> iirc it would drop 10.5, which is why we weren't using it to begin with
  67 2014-05-24 01:31:07 <warren> 0.8.x in our testing didn't work on 10.5, it did for you?
  68 2014-05-24 01:31:07 <coryfields> warren: how did you conclude that the bump that 5.2.1 fixed the font issue?
  69 2014-05-24 01:31:26 <warren> coryfields: the weird character went away when the only change was 5.2.0 -> 5.2.1
  70 2014-05-24 01:32:23 <coryfields> warren: ah, that's right, it was the comma or something
  71 2014-05-24 01:32:26 <coryfields> but
  72 2014-05-24 01:32:31 <warren> not a comma
  73 2014-05-24 01:32:44 <coryfields> on 10.9 for me, that font is busted
  74 2014-05-24 01:32:48 <coryfields> it's just blocks
  75 2014-05-24 01:33:05 <coryfields> i fixed it in code and i'll PR in a min, but i'm curious as to why you didn't see that
  76 2014-05-24 01:33:15 <warren> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4185#issuecomment-43194688
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  79 2014-05-24 01:36:53 <coryfields> warren: http://i.imgur.com/c7zPTqn.png
  80 2014-05-24 01:37:07 <coryfields> that's with a current gitian dmg
  81 2014-05-24 01:37:23 <coryfields> again, i've fixed it, i'm just really curious why i'm the only one seeing it
  82 2014-05-24 01:37:33 <warren> maybe nobody else is testing it ...
  83 2014-05-24 01:37:45 <warren> coryfields: 5.2.0 didn't have the busted font?
  84 2014-05-24 01:37:54 <warren> coryfields: my testing was *only* on 10.6
  85 2014-05-24 01:38:09 <coryfields> oh ok, well there's the answer
  86 2014-05-24 01:38:21 <coryfields> it's 10.9 only.
  87 2014-05-24 01:38:22 <coryfields> thanks
  88 2014-05-24 01:38:37 <coryfields> bbl
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 358 2014-05-24 08:18:27 <dabura667> Question: is anyone other than the DarkWallet devs working on the stealth address protocol? The reason I ask this is that if we took away the stealth aspect and used the "prefix" value within the stealth address (currently the last few bytes before the checksum) as a 1:1 to the 4 byte nonce placed before the ephemeral pubkey in the OP_RETURN txout.
 359 2014-05-24 08:18:46 <dabura667> Then we could solve the address reuse issue.
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 362 2014-05-24 08:20:02 <dabura667> It wouldn't have any of the anonymity properties of the stealth address used currently, but the privkey would easily be found by searching all utxos for your prefix rather than brute forcing all the ephemkeys with their nonces to look for a match etc.
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 463 2014-05-24 10:52:25 <petertodd> dabura667: I suggested something not unlike that awhile back in conjunction with HD wallets actually, only with just incrementing indexes until your prefix matched
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 465 2014-05-24 10:53:36 <petertodd> dabura667: and yeah, the stealth addr protocol was put out for public review months ago; didn't get much useful feedback aside from adam back and gmaxwell.
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 514 2014-05-24 12:17:30 <dabura667> petertodd: recently I was studying ECC vulnerability vectors and I came across the "same k for two sigs = privkey stolen" case. I was suprised at how amazingly easy it was to solve the privkey with exact matches (like algebra easy) and even wrote a simple brute forcer that if you could guess parameters for k values that might occur based on knowledge of a vulnerability, the processing cost is very low... It made me think that
 515 2014-05-24 12:17:30 <dabura667> Bitcoin needs something like stealth address without the stealth in order to ensure 1. no reuse of keys. 2. easy lookup and recovery of funds.
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 518 2014-05-24 12:19:25 <dabura667> in an ideal world, there would be the choice of privacy over ease of lookup / processing cost... or who knows, tomorrow some great idea could make fully stealth addresses low processor cost.
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 520 2014-05-24 12:20:58 <dabura667> Anecdote: my wife asked what I was doing, and I said "hacking a bitcoin address that was shown to have a vulnerability a year ago." then she said "wow, you can hack bitcoins? Does that mean we can buy a house?" :-D
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 522 2014-05-24 12:21:34 <holyboot> dabura667: I've had similar conversations with my wife <g>
 523 2014-05-24 12:21:45 <dabura667> yeah no, that address's privkey is public domain now lol
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 525 2014-05-24 12:22:58 <shesek> dabura667, address reuse doesn't imply K reuse
 526 2014-05-24 12:23:01 <dabura667> holyboot: my wife is very tech savvy, but not to the point where saying "elliptic" to her in our language will garner any excitement.
 527 2014-05-24 12:23:22 <buZz> you could train her, pavlov style
 528 2014-05-24 12:23:22 <holyboot> dabura667:  hahahahaha
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 530 2014-05-24 12:23:38 <buZz> mention elliptic curves during something she enjoys
 531 2014-05-24 12:23:49 <buZz> in due time she will make the synaptic connection ;)
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 533 2014-05-24 12:24:49 <Luke-Jr> dabura667: even if you can technically spend bitcoins, you might want to consider whether it's legal.. a case can easily be made that it is fraud to claim bitcoins which were not yours
 534 2014-05-24 12:24:51 <dabura667> shesek: true, but I think there should be layers of protection for every good program, and currently a lot of programs rely on "cryptographically secure" PRNGs that are provided with libraries. Of course anyone worth their weight in salt will know ways to get proper entropy... but still
 535 2014-05-24 12:25:23 <shesek> dabura667, is it actually quite easy to create unique K values - you can simply use H(privkey||data)
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 537 2014-05-24 12:25:30 <dabura667> Luke-Jr: read my post, I was studying attack vectors using a reported hack from 1 year ago.
 538 2014-05-24 12:25:31 <shesek> `data` being the data being signed
 539 2014-05-24 12:25:53 <shesek> you can also add some entropy to that (H(privkey||data||random)), but its not really needed
 540 2014-05-24 12:25:55 <Luke-Jr> dabura667: that's not my point.
 541 2014-05-24 12:26:41 <dabura667> Luke-Jr: yes, if your point is "stealing is bad" then we are in agreement.
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 546 2014-05-24 12:28:25 <dabura667> shesek: Yes, this is a good idea. Unfortunately, things like the Android vulnerability last year etc. happen. When that DOES happen, having a safety net is always nice.
 547 2014-05-24 12:29:55 <dabura667> Though you could go one step further and say, if the k in the sig alg is broken, then you shouldn't trust any privkeys generated on that machine...
 548 2014-05-24 12:30:21 <sipa> deterministic k is safe, assuming the key generation is safe
 549 2014-05-24 12:30:30 <sipa> and if key generation isn't safe, you're screwed anyway
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 551 2014-05-24 12:34:21 <Luke-Jr> dabura667: pedantically, I'd argue that it's fine (ie, not a vulnerability) to use a fixed K per ECDSA key, since you should only ever be signing with it once ;)
 552 2014-05-24 12:34:54 <Luke-Jr> (obv not the case for the Android instance, but theoretically possible to have a fixed K without breaking the RNG)
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 561 2014-05-24 13:03:51 <prof7bit_> I've made pure Java code to parse wallet.dat (no non-java dependency): https://github.com/prof7bit/wallet-key-tool/blob/master/src/main/java/prof7bit/bitcoin/wallettool/fileformats/WalletDatHandler.xtend can anybody spot any obvious mistake, especially in handling the different bdb key types?
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 568 2014-05-24 13:22:19 <Luke-Jr> prof7bit_: … why?
 569 2014-05-24 13:23:08 <prof7bit_> to avoid libdb dependency
 570 2014-05-24 13:24:19 <Luke-Jr> prof7bit_: you know the bdb format will be going away Real Soon Now™? :p
 571 2014-05-24 13:25:10 <Luke-Jr> seems like a lot of work just to temporarily avoid a C dep
 572 2014-05-24 13:25:11 <prof7bit_> yes, but old wallet dats might be found on some old hdds
 573 2014-05-24 13:25:12 * Luke-Jr shrugs
 574 2014-05-24 13:25:47 <prof7bit_> Luke-Jr: it was actually easier than I have thought. This file format is actually extremely simple
 575 2014-05-24 13:25:58 <Luke-Jr> hm
 576 2014-05-24 13:26:17 <prof7bit_> took me only 3 days (have some time currently)
 577 2014-05-24 13:27:03 <prof7bit_> only documentation i needed was db_page.h and bywallet for the bitcoin related stuff
 578 2014-05-24 13:27:11 <prof7bit_> pywallet
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 581 2014-05-24 13:28:41 <prof7bit_> and sometimes i do stuff just to see whether it can actually be done (by me).
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 662 2014-05-24 15:07:19 <chmod755> cb7caf0b4c0ee266cce5fbd8f8ba3903f5efa82e is still the latest bootstrap.dat torrent right?
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 664 2014-05-24 15:09:04 <hearn> saivann: where on the website is it?
 665 2014-05-24 15:09:23 <harding> hearn: it's still building
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 667 2014-05-24 15:09:26 <saivann> hearn: You checked 30 seconds too soon
 668 2014-05-24 15:09:29 <harding> hearn: It'll be at https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-documentation
 669 2014-05-24 15:09:30 <saivann> It's live now!
 670 2014-05-24 15:09:33 <hearn> :)
 671 2014-05-24 15:09:46 <hearn> yay! i see it :)
 672 2014-05-24 15:10:21 <saivann> Wonderful work, awesome to see this live on the main domain now!
 673 2014-05-24 15:10:38 <hearn> high fives all round
 674 2014-05-24 15:10:42 <hearn> we should do some promo work so people learn about it
 675 2014-05-24 15:10:46 <hearn> coindesk should cover it at least
 676 2014-05-24 15:11:11 <saivann> That's a good idea!
 677 2014-05-24 15:11:36 <harding> saivann: the warning doesn't disapear for me when pressing the X, even though it did on the preview.
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 681 2014-05-24 15:12:19 <saivann> harding: Will fix that, I see JS errors in the console too
 682 2014-05-24 15:12:37 <saivann> (Thanks for reporting!)
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 684 2014-05-24 15:12:56 <harding> :-)
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 694 2014-05-24 15:22:40 <saivann> Just fixed some too aggresive caching policies
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 696 2014-05-24 15:23:21 <CodeShark> is it normal for the latest master HEAD to show a bunch of messages like
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 698 2014-05-24 15:23:24 <CodeShark> 2014-05-24 15:19:45 ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK 256, prev=00000000000001e7dfdc2a13b69b8b9d314330b5cdc77507e6ed3b12ed2a597a
 699 2014-05-24 15:23:48 <CodeShark> it shows like 700+ lines of this
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 704 2014-05-24 15:27:30 <CodeShark> and while it's showing these lines it doesn't seem to be getting any other network updates
 705 2014-05-24 15:27:42 <CodeShark> i.e. tip updates
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 709 2014-05-24 15:30:15 <chichov> I see that CBitcoinAddress (base58.h) only stores the first 20 bytes of a bitcoin address
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 711 2014-05-24 15:30:23 <sipa> CodeShark: it means blocks being received out of order
 712 2014-05-24 15:30:24 <chichov> is there any way to retrieve the complete address from a CPubKey?
 713 2014-05-24 15:30:44 <sipa> chichov: a bitcoin address IS a 20-byte hash of the public key
 714 2014-05-24 15:31:03 <sipa> (base58check encoded)
 715 2014-05-24 15:31:22 <chichov> hm, how can I retrieve the "whole" thing then? including network byte, checksum etc
 716 2014-05-24 15:31:55 <sipa> those are only present after base58 encoding
 717 2014-05-24 15:32:09 <sipa> you can look at the constants in chainparams
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 719 2014-05-24 15:34:25 <chichov> I thought the address is: Base58Enc(NetworkByte||pubkeyHash||checksum) ?
 720 2014-05-24 15:34:56 <sipa> which is base58check(networkbyte || pubkeyhash)
 721 2014-05-24 15:35:05 <chichov> unless there is some mistake in the terminology
 722 2014-05-24 15:35:27 <chichov> ah yes, so that's how it looks like
 723 2014-05-24 15:35:29 <sipa> sur
 724 2014-05-24 15:35:36 <sipa> but the networkbyte is a constant
 725 2014-05-24 15:35:41 <chichov> yep
 726 2014-05-24 15:35:48 <sipa> it is added when encoding an address as a string
 727 2014-05-24 15:35:54 <sipa> and removed when parsing
 728 2014-05-24 15:36:18 <sipa> you could convert an address to a string, and then base58 decode it
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 730 2014-05-24 15:36:40 <sipa> but all you'd get would be networkbyte || pubkeyhash || chrcksum
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 732 2014-05-24 15:37:17 <chichov> my goal is to get from CPubKey to Base58Check(NetworkByte||pubkeyHash)
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 735 2014-05-24 15:37:23 <chichov> any idea how to get there?
 736 2014-05-24 15:37:44 <sipa> CBitcoinAddress(pubkey.GetId()).ToString()
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 738 2014-05-24 15:38:12 <chichov> interesting, that's gonna give me the "whole" thing?
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 740 2014-05-24 15:38:17 <chichov> I'll look into that
 741 2014-05-24 15:38:36 <sipa> it will give you the base58 encoded address
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 743 2014-05-24 15:41:19 <chichov> just for the terminology: the address is Base58(pubkeyHash)?
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 752 2014-05-24 15:50:23 <dabura667> Base58(NetworkByte||pubkeyHash||checksum); NetworkByte = 0x00, checksum = sha256(sha256(NetworkByte||pubkeyHash))(first 4 bytes only)
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 759 2014-05-24 15:53:13 <dabura667> so with pubkeyhash of 0xc4c5d791fcb4654a1ef5e03fe0ad3d9c598f9827
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 766 2014-05-24 15:53:58 <dabura667> we sha256(sha256(00c4c5d791fcb4654a1ef5e03fe0ad3d9c598f9827))[:4]
 767 2014-05-24 15:54:13 <dabura667> which is 4abb8f1a
 768 2014-05-24 15:54:36 <dabura667> Base58 encode 00c4c5d791fcb4654a1ef5e03fe0ad3d9c598f98274abb8f1a to get 1JwSSubhmg6iPtRjtyqhUYYH7bZg3Lfy1T
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 771 2014-05-24 15:55:55 <dabura667> oops
 772 2014-05-24 15:56:17 <sipa> and i'm sure he knows
 773 2014-05-24 15:56:29 <sipa> he's just asking for terminology and how it is implemented
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 791 2014-05-24 16:10:20 <CodeShark> sipa: I presumed as much - blocks out of order...but 700+ out of order blocks and no tip updates?
 792 2014-05-24 16:10:58 <sipa> if you're more than 700 blocks behind that's perfectly possible
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 825 2014-05-24 16:30:45 <coryfields> wumpus: i think with those two PR's, the gitian OSX build is do-able for 0.9.2 again
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 842 2014-05-24 16:42:30 <CodeShark> sipa: it's getting stuck on ORPHAN BLOCK 751
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 844 2014-05-24 16:42:51 <CodeShark> it keeps showing new orphan blocks (different hashes) but the count remains 751
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 847 2014-05-24 16:43:41 <sipa> CodeShark: that's because the memory pool is limited to 750
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 849 2014-05-24 16:43:50 <sipa> so it drops orphans when there's more
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 851 2014-05-24 16:43:59 <CodeShark> the tip hasn't updated, though
 852 2014-05-24 16:44:04 <CodeShark> so it seems to be stuck
 853 2014-05-24 16:44:15 <sipa> how long has it been?
 854 2014-05-24 16:44:19 <CodeShark> several hours
 855 2014-05-24 16:44:22 <sipa> ouch
 856 2014-05-24 16:44:25 <sipa> mainnet?
 857 2014-05-24 16:44:27 <CodeShark> yes
 858 2014-05-24 16:46:16 <CodeShark> when I restart it, it does add to the tip for a while
 859 2014-05-24 16:46:20 <CodeShark> then it seems to get stuck again
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 861 2014-05-24 16:48:05 <sipa> ugh
 862 2014-05-24 16:48:18 <sipa> i really want to get rid of that code
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 865 2014-05-24 16:51:00 <CodeShark> do you have something to replace it yet?
 866 2014-05-24 16:51:48 <CodeShark> I really like the architecture we've discussed earlier - but it would require an almost total reimplementation of the networking cod
 867 2014-05-24 16:51:50 <CodeShark> *code
 868 2014-05-24 16:52:03 <sipa> been working on headers-first sync for... a year or so now :)
 869 2014-05-24 16:52:08 * sipa doesn't have that much time
 870 2014-05-24 16:52:32 <CodeShark> get the Bitcoin Foundation to pay you ;)
 871 2014-05-24 16:52:48 <CodeShark> it would be a great use of funds
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 892 2014-05-24 17:07:04 <benkay> hey theree #bitcoin-dev!
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 897 2014-05-24 17:07:46 <benkay> i'm looking to use a bitcoin thinger to watch an address as a part of another application. which of the spv clients have the best interfaces against which to program?
 898 2014-05-24 17:07:55 <benkay> (or least awful, that'd work too ;) )
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 918 2014-05-24 17:16:48 <minium> what's the correct way to get from a hex string of a private key to CKey?
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 920 2014-05-24 17:17:23 <minium> I tried building a CBitcoinSecret from EncodeBase58(ParseHex("string")), but it says it's not valid
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 927 2014-05-24 17:23:20 <sipa> you need EncodeBase58Check
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 954 2014-05-24 17:44:28 <BatBuddha> so im sniffing raw bitcoin packets with wireshark. it catches the version message, gets the magic and payload size right, but neglects the checksum, messing interpretation of everything else up.  any idea why?
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 957 2014-05-24 17:46:10 <sipa> maybe it was written for pre-209 protocol version which was removed in februari 2012?
 958 2014-05-24 17:46:27 <sipa> which did not have a checksum on the version message
 959 2014-05-24 17:47:16 <BatBuddha> thats what I thought. was hoping there might be an upgrade to the filter but I guess not.
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 961 2014-05-24 17:47:44 <sipa> write it yourself :)
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 963 2014-05-24 17:48:35 <BatBuddha> got some work set out for me then :)
 964 2014-05-24 17:50:00 <coryfields> anyone around who could do a gitian build?
 965 2014-05-24 17:50:04 <BatBuddha> actually looks like theres a couple more up to date repos if I build from source
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1000 2014-05-24 18:23:48 <CodeShark> there doesn't really seem to be too much of a point storing orphan blocks if we only store 750
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1002 2014-05-24 18:24:42 <CodeShark> at least if the intention is to avoid network overhead
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1004 2014-05-24 18:25:31 <CodeShark> I guess it arguably shaves off a few minutes for a fast connection
1005 2014-05-24 18:26:09 <CodeShark> what we need is parallel sync
1006 2014-05-24 18:26:42 <CodeShark> could the protocol be modified to improve parallel sync capabilities?
1007 2014-05-24 18:27:03 <CodeShark> i.e. avoiding downloading long chains that don't connect to the genesis block
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1009 2014-05-24 18:28:03 <CodeShark> also applicable to headers-only sync
1010 2014-05-24 18:28:08 <CodeShark> or headers-first
1011 2014-05-24 18:30:45 <CodeShark> i.e. detecting bad chains by target and timestamp
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1019 2014-05-24 18:34:32 <CodeShark> I'm also seeing this orphan block saturation issue with 0.9.2, not just master/HEAD
1020 2014-05-24 18:35:13 <minium> I'll be damned, it seems like the example in the wiki doesn't use a valid public key
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1022 2014-05-24 18:35:44 <minium> although, nope, my bad
1023 2014-05-24 18:36:23 <lechuga_> CodeShark: oprhan block saturation issue?
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1025 2014-05-24 18:36:48 <minium> I got the bug, it's missing the 0x80 private key prefix
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1027 2014-05-24 18:38:30 <sipa> CodeShark: if we didn't store orphans we'd download the same block over and over again (the newly announced tips durinh sync)
1028 2014-05-24 18:38:44 <sipa> and with headers-first, parallel download is easy
1029 2014-05-24 18:39:01 <CodeShark> lechuga_: when doing initial sync, it downloads a bunch of orphan blocks and fills the mempool
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1033 2014-05-24 18:40:01 <sipa> note that orphan here just means "we don't have their parent yet", not "blocks orphaned by a reorg"
1034 2014-05-24 18:40:15 <CodeShark> we really should come up with a new term for this
1035 2014-05-24 18:40:28 <sipa> too late
1036 2014-05-24 18:40:31 <lechuga_> heh
1037 2014-05-24 18:40:48 <CodeShark> well, it seems that the term "orphan" has been mostly coopted for the latter sense
1038 2014-05-24 18:40:56 <CodeShark> so we should come up with a new term for the former sense
1039 2014-05-24 18:41:08 <CodeShark> since it only really affects the core code
1040 2014-05-24 18:41:15 <CodeShark> and isn't really relevant at the user level
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1042 2014-05-24 18:41:52 <gmaxwell> "unresolved-parent"
1043 2014-05-24 18:41:57 <CodeShark> I propose "unconnected block"
1044 2014-05-24 18:41:58 <shadowbroker> newborn?
1045 2014-05-24 18:41:58 <lechuga_> "bastard"
1046 2014-05-24 18:42:24 <shadowbroker> or genesis block
1047 2014-05-24 18:42:26 <shadowbroker> iono
1048 2014-05-24 18:42:56 <Diablo-D3> sipa: blocks orphaned by a re-org is an alternate reality
1049 2014-05-24 18:43:21 <CodeShark> Diablo-D3: unfortunately it seems most of the community lives in that alternate reality
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1052 2014-05-24 18:43:40 <CodeShark> language is defined by usage
1053 2014-05-24 18:43:52 <CodeShark> and the usage now is almost exclusively this sens
1054 2014-05-24 18:43:58 <Diablo-D3> [02:36:59] <sipa> note that orphan here just means "we don't have their parent yet",
1055 2014-05-24 18:44:05 <Diablo-D3> you're using orphan weirdly then
1056 2014-05-24 18:44:16 <Diablo-D3> we dont have a word for that, and its not orphan
1057 2014-05-24 18:44:25 <Luke-Jr> we do, "stale block"
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1059 2014-05-24 18:44:53 <lechuga_> i was calling them "side chain blocks" but that obviously doesn't work in modern context
1060 2014-05-24 18:44:56 <Diablo-D3> Luke-Jr: its not stale if we dont have the parent yet though
1061 2014-05-24 18:45:23 <Luke-Jr> eh, that's just an orphan block
1062 2014-05-24 18:45:28 <lechuga_> agree
1063 2014-05-24 18:45:45 * Diablo-D3 shrugs
1064 2014-05-24 18:45:49 <Luke-Jr> I thought you meant the ones we have a parent for, but aren't in the main chain, which are called stale
1065 2014-05-24 18:45:59 <Diablo-D3> yeah, those are stale
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1067 2014-05-24 18:46:16 <Diablo-D3> although the term is used more for shares, but hey
1068 2014-05-24 18:47:36 <Zoop_> so i hadn't run the bitcoin client for a few months
1069 2014-05-24 18:47:41 <Zoop_> opened it up
1070 2014-05-24 18:47:49 <Zoop_> everything loaded just fine
1071 2014-05-24 18:47:57 <Zoop_> i realise it's an old version
1072 2014-05-24 18:48:00 <Zoop_> close it up
1073 2014-05-24 18:48:02 <CodeShark> given that the size of the community that still uses "orphan block" in the original sense of "we don't know the parent" is significantly smaller than the size of the community that uses "orphan block" to mean "in side chain" the path of least resistance is to just accept the latter definition and come up with a new term for the former
1074 2014-05-24 18:48:04 <Zoop_> update
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1076 2014-05-24 18:48:09 <Zoop_> run it again
1077 2014-05-24 18:48:14 <Zoop_> everything loads
1078 2014-05-24 18:48:30 <Zoop_> but program is stuck in the tray bar
1079 2014-05-24 18:48:36 <Zoop_> consuming all my cpu
1080 2014-05-24 18:48:41 <Zoop_> for a solid 5 minutes
1081 2014-05-24 18:49:06 <Luke-Jr> CodeShark: I wouldn't mind abandoning the confused term entirely, but using the *wrong* term is just wrong :p
1082 2014-05-24 18:49:18 <Luke-Jr> Zoop_: this is not #bitcoin (where support is)
1083 2014-05-24 18:49:30 <Zoop_> oh shit
1084 2014-05-24 18:49:31 <CodeShark> Luke-Jr: for better or worse, usage makes terms *right*
1085 2014-05-24 18:49:32 <Zoop_> sorry
1086 2014-05-24 18:49:35 <Zoop_> ;_;
1087 2014-05-24 18:49:38 <CodeShark> it's just how language evolves
1088 2014-05-24 18:49:52 <Luke-Jr> CodeShark: well, in English, it's wrong :p
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1115 2014-05-24 19:18:53 <lechuga_> sipa: can you point me to your block downloading optimization experiment branch?
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1137 2014-05-24 19:44:04 <minium> is there any way (through the API) to dump all bitcoin addresses in a wallet?
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1141 2014-05-24 19:45:18 <lechuga_> bitcoind listreceivedbyaddress 0 true
1142 2014-05-24 19:45:46 <minium> lechuga_: that's neat, thank you
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1144 2014-05-24 19:46:04 <lechuga_> np
1145 2014-05-24 19:47:48 <gmaxwell> lechuga_: that doesn't show all the addresses in the wallet, just all the used ones, not the future ones.
1146 2014-05-24 19:48:04 <gmaxwell> There is no way to get out the future ones, since doing so potentially invalidates backups.
1147 2014-05-24 19:48:24 <minium> gmaxwell: what do you mean with future addresses precisely?
1148 2014-05-24 19:48:45 <gmaxwell> minium: the address pool, addresses that are precomputed buy have not been issued yet.
1149 2014-05-24 19:48:53 <minium> oh, that one
1150 2014-05-24 19:49:08 <gmaxwell> You should probably not be messing around with addresses nad low level wallet stuff unless you've got a pretty firm handle on how things like the address pool work.
1151 2014-05-24 19:49:40 <minium> that's no problem, I'm just importing a few keys manually and want to be able to list the addresses for them
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1208 2014-05-24 21:24:35 <elichai2> something exciting in the development?
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1226 2014-05-24 21:47:24 <jgarzik> elichai2, yes
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1238 2014-05-24 22:07:41 <elichai2> jgarzik: ?
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1240 2014-05-24 22:14:38 <posita> This is a purely theoretical nitpick, since I'm pretty sure that a transaction with more than 0xffffffff outputs can't practically exist, but the Wiki claims up to a full 1-9 byte VarInt for input/output counters, whereas it looks like the source only allows for 1-5 (i.e., it uses u_int32s, not u_int64s).
1241 2014-05-24 22:14:45 <posita> See: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transactions
1242 2014-05-24 22:14:50 <posita> Vs: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/core.h#L75
1243 2014-05-24 22:15:02 <posita> (If anyone cares. I just noticed it and thought I'd bring it up.)
1244 2014-05-24 22:16:10 <posita> If anything, it seems like the Wiki should probably change (not the code).
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