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   5 2014-06-03 00:05:23 <phantomcircuit> coryfields, was autotools changed to only look for bdb4.8?
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   7 2014-06-03 00:05:38 <phantomcircuit> --with-incompatible-bdb doesn't seem to work anymore
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  19 2014-06-03 00:16:09 <maaku> phantomcircuit: "works for me"
  20 2014-06-03 00:16:36 <phantomcircuit> maaku, sigh
  21 2014-06-03 00:16:45 <phantomcircuit> i wonder if the search path is screwed up
  22 2014-06-03 00:17:06 * maaku is doing a autogen to replace the configure script and try again
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  24 2014-06-03 00:17:49 <maaku> yeah xubuntu 14.04, --with-incompatible-bdb works
  25 2014-06-03 00:18:05 <phantomcircuit> sigh
  26 2014-06-03 00:18:06 <phantomcircuit> ii  libdb5.3++:amd64                                                          5.3.28-3ubuntu3                           amd64                                     Berkeley v5.3 Database Libraries for C++ [runtime]
  27 2014-06-03 00:18:12 <phantomcircuit> $ locate db_cxx.h
  28 2014-06-03 00:18:14 <phantomcircuit> $
  29 2014-06-03 00:18:15 <phantomcircuit> >.>
  30 2014-06-03 00:18:51 <maaku> :(
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  35 2014-06-03 00:20:37 <phantomcircuit> maaku, reinstall and the file magically appears
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  45 2014-06-03 00:28:54 <maaku> phantomcircuit: of course :)
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  47 2014-06-03 00:29:19 <maaku> actually i've been exactly there -- interupted upgrade resulted in neither package actually installed
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  78 2014-06-03 01:06:24 <phantomcircuit> lol
  79 2014-06-03 01:06:27 <phantomcircuit> doing a reindex
  80 2014-06-03 01:06:29 <phantomcircuit>      2.68%     999035319         bitcoind  libcrypto.so.1.0.0             [.] 0x00000000000e57d0
  81 2014-06-03 01:06:29 <phantomcircuit>      2.38%     884765008         bitcoind  bitcoind                       [.] CBlockIndex::IsSuperMajority(int, CBlockIndex const*, unsigned int, unsigned int)
  82 2014-06-03 01:06:53 <phantomcircuit> that silly function takes only slightly less cpu time than the ECDSA verification stuff
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  88 2014-06-03 01:08:41 <gmaxwell> seems unlikely, is that also counting its children?
  89 2014-06-03 01:09:43 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, i've done this a number of times different ways, including putting calls to gettimeoday in there
  90 2014-06-03 01:09:54 <phantomcircuit> it's consistently come back as using a comical ridiculous amount of cpu time
  91 2014-06-03 01:10:16 <phantomcircuit> i suspect it's something about thrashing the shit out of the cpu cache
  92 2014-06-03 01:10:34 <phantomcircuit> obviously that only holds true for the first ~100k blocks
  93 2014-06-03 01:10:41 <phantomcircuit> after that the ecdsa stuff dominates by a wide margin
  94 2014-06-03 01:10:52 <gmaxwell> well there is no ecdsa in the first 100k blocks.
  95 2014-06-03 01:10:56 <gmaxwell> it's distabled.
  96 2014-06-03 01:11:08 <phantomcircuit> hmm you're right
  97 2014-06-03 01:11:15 <phantomcircuit> i wonder if that's just sha256 then
  98 2014-06-03 01:11:29 <phantomcircuit> lets try again wtih a debug build of openssl
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 103 2014-06-03 01:13:32 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, it seems like once IsSuperMajority returns true you can safely cache the result, as downgrade isn't possible
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 105 2014-06-03 01:14:29 <gmaxwell> sure now that we've passed the point of no return, but it would be good to understand why it's slow
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 107 2014-06-03 01:15:46 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, it's walking a linked list backwards 1000 block headers, then going back to the start and doing it again 100 times
 108 2014-06-03 01:15:53 <phantomcircuit> for each block
 109 2014-06-03 01:16:27 <phantomcircuit> also the error message is wrong
 110 2014-06-03 01:16:32 <gmaxwell> why does it do it 100 times?
 111 2014-06-03 01:16:51 <gmaxwell> is it also hashing the header each step? if so that would suddenly explain the profile.
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 113 2014-06-03 01:17:41 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, iirc the actual rule is 950 of the last 1000 blocks OR 75 of the last 100 blocks on testnet
 114 2014-06-03 01:17:54 <phantomcircuit> actually i guess this shouldn't do the 100
 115 2014-06-03 01:17:57 <phantomcircuit> since TestNet() will be false
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 118 2014-06-03 01:19:45 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, anyways to get to block 100k requires you to do ~100m operations
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 121 2014-06-03 01:20:31 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, actually the uint256 comparison function is also super expensive apparently
 122 2014-06-03 01:20:38 <phantomcircuit> (or maybe is just called A LOT)
 123 2014-06-03 01:21:15 <gmaxwell> thats also suspicious, I suggest stepping through it in a debugger. :P
 124 2014-06-03 01:21:57 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, im using perf
 125 2014-06-03 01:22:06 <phantomcircuit> i guess i can step through it in gdb also
 126 2014-06-03 01:22:17 <phantomcircuit> but i've seen these results enough times that i think they're accurate
 127 2014-06-03 01:22:20 <phantomcircuit> if not insane
 128 2014-06-03 01:22:56 <phantomcircuit> yeah that openssl function was      3.45%     394140350         bitcoind  libcrypto.so.1.0.0             [.] sha256_block_data_order
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 130 2014-06-03 01:23:46 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: the reason I suggest stepping is not because I think the profile is wrong, but because if its right then something moderately surprising is happening that isn't visible in the profile.
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 132 2014-06-03 01:25:16 <phantomcircuit>      5.32%   15456911093         bitcoind  libcrypto.so.1.0.0                   [.] 0x00000000000e80ea
 133 2014-06-03 01:25:16 <phantomcircuit>      3.03%    8807578250         bitcoind  bitcoind                             [.] base_uint<256u>::CompareTo(base_uint<256u> const&) const
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 135 2014-06-03 01:25:45 <phantomcircuit> apparently i dont get libcrypto symbols this time?
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 137 2014-06-03 01:26:42 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, the results here are uh
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 147 2014-06-03 01:33:42 <coryfields> phantomcircuit: not afaik
 148 2014-06-03 01:33:46 <coryfields> phantomcircuit: get it worked out?
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 153 2014-06-03 01:36:42 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, pastebin.com/raw.php?i=s50M0jyf
 154 2014-06-03 01:36:48 <phantomcircuit> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=s50M0jyf
 155 2014-06-03 01:37:19 <phantomcircuit> that's a reindex upto 140557
 156 2014-06-03 01:37:22 <phantomcircuit> weird right
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 161 2014-06-03 01:37:55 <copumpkin> is it a "laptop" or a laptop?
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 171 2014-06-03 01:55:58 <phantomcircuit> <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, once again but this time with symbols for libstd++
 172 2014-06-03 01:55:58 <phantomcircuit> <phantomcircuit> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=LWgxUgu
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 174 2014-06-03 01:58:52 <phantomcircuit> so it seems like Hash, uint256::CompareTo, and malloc/free, are the most expensive things before we get to checkpoints
 175 2014-06-03 01:59:14 <gmaxwell> yea, I knew about the malloc free, the whole coding style used in the codebase heavily abuses the allocator.
 176 2014-06-03 01:59:37 <phantomcircuit>      1.10%    9095160715         bitcoind  bitcoind                            [.] std::vector<unsigned char, std::allocator<unsigned char> >::end() const
 177 2014-06-03 01:59:38 <phantomcircuit> wat
 178 2014-06-03 01:59:49 <gmaxwell> lots and lots of short lived heap allocated things.
 179 2014-06-03 01:59:52 <phantomcircuit> returning the end() iterator is that expensive for a vector?
 180 2014-06-03 02:00:06 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, yeah i noticed that
 181 2014-06-03 02:01:04 <phantomcircuit> afaict std::vector::end() should be O(1)
 182 2014-06-03 02:01:12 <phantomcircuit> but maybe that 1 is very very expensive
 183 2014-06-03 02:01:38 <phantomcircuit> GetOp2
 184 2014-06-03 02:01:39 <phantomcircuit> wat
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 186 2014-06-03 02:02:37 <gmaxwell> I assume you've compiled without optimization?
 187 2014-06-03 02:02:59 <gmaxwell> some of this I think you're seing is pure calling overhead for little snippits of code that are otherwise always inlined.
 188 2014-06-03 02:03:02 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, just ./configure --with-incompatible-bdb --enable-debug --without-miniupnpc
 189 2014-06-03 02:03:05 <phantomcircuit> whatever that gets you
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 191 2014-06-03 02:03:06 <gmaxwell> hm.
 192 2014-06-03 02:03:25 <phantomcircuit> that should get me -O2 i think
 193 2014-06-03 02:04:18 <phantomcircuit> yeah
 194 2014-06-03 02:04:23 <phantomcircuit> ./configure:    CXXFLAGS="-g -O2"
 195 2014-06-03 02:04:45 <phantomcircuit> oh wait
 196 2014-06-03 02:04:46 <phantomcircuit> no
 197 2014-06-03 02:04:52 <phantomcircuit> CXXFLAGS = -g3 -O0 -DDEBUG -Wall -Wextra -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter  -Wstack-protector -fstack-protector-all -fPIE
 198 2014-06-03 02:04:59 <phantomcircuit> i guess --enable-debug sets -O0
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 201 2014-06-03 02:05:37 <phantomcircuit> CXXFLAGS = -g -O2 -Wall -Wextra -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter  -Wstack-protector -fstack-protector-all -fPIE
 202 2014-06-03 02:05:40 <phantomcircuit> well that's annoying
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 252 2014-06-03 03:15:51 <andytoshi> in PR 4277 i suggested replacing the "pKey != NULL" assertation for checking if the ssl lib supports EC with a nicer error message
 253 2014-06-03 03:16:02 <andytoshi> Luke-Jr suggested i use LogPrintf instead of fprintf, what are thoughts on that?
 254 2014-06-03 03:16:14 <andytoshi> the current assertation appears on the terminal as a visible failure
 255 2014-06-03 03:16:42 <andytoshi> i'd assume the first run of bitcoind would always be on an interactive terminal where that's a better output than debug.log (which a new user might not even know of)
 256 2014-06-03 03:16:46 <Luke-Jr> we should use whatever current startup errors use.. eg, dialog for Qt..
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 258 2014-06-03 03:19:37 <andytoshi> oh, is that the InitWarning() function in init.cpp?
 259 2014-06-03 03:20:07 <andytoshi> i mean, uiInterface.ThreadSafeMessageBox
 260 2014-06-03 03:21:50 <andytoshi> Luke-Jr: you also suggested i give advice for how to fix this, i'm not sure what to say there. i manage it by compiling my own openssl and overwriting the package manager's files, which is an ugly thing to do
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 278 2014-06-03 03:31:28 <Luke-Jr> andytoshi: oh, this is your PR? :D
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 281 2014-06-03 03:31:50 <Luke-Jr> andytoshi: perhaps a wiki page people can list options? :\
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 283 2014-06-03 03:32:26 <andytoshi> Luke-Jr: oh, yeah, i'm apoelstra everywhere except IRC :}
 284 2014-06-03 03:32:50 <andytoshi> except bitcoin-related stuff, i mean
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 286 2014-06-03 03:33:08 <andytoshi> that's a good idea, i'll look for one or create one
 287 2014-06-03 03:33:38 <PRab> Anyone willing to send some testnet coins to 2NG7aR2ovqtsi7Xn6VLxGKUSpkVAjGooub8?
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 289 2014-06-03 03:34:37 <PRab> And anyone know how big the testnet blockchain is?
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 303 2014-06-03 03:47:30 <jcrubino> pr 2 gigs using btcd
 304 2014-06-03 03:47:39 <jcrubino> PRab,
 305 2014-06-03 03:47:50 <jcrubino> maybe 3
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 307 2014-06-03 03:48:40 <pigeons> no
 308 2014-06-03 03:48:48 <pigeons> less
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 311 2014-06-03 03:54:24 <Luke-Jr> pigeons: you use btcd?
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 315 2014-06-03 03:57:42 <andytoshi> Luke-Jr, gmaxwell, everyone: can you check https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/OpenSSL_and_EC_Libraries for correctness?
 316 2014-06-03 03:59:13 <Luke-Jr> andytoshi: I'd change 2 things: 1) clearly point out that the patents do NOT affect the EC used by Bitcoin, 2) don't claim Heartbleed's effect on Bitcoin is non-serious (since it can be)
 317 2014-06-03 03:59:51 <andytoshi> okey doke
 318 2014-06-03 04:03:48 <andytoshi> ok Luke-Jr, i have fixed both
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 325 2014-06-03 04:07:21 <pigeons> Luke-Jr: oops, no, i dont use btcd sorry my mistake
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 338 2014-06-03 04:35:47 <justanotheruser> I'm trying to connect to the json rpc and I'm getting an error:
 339 2014-06-03 04:35:47 <justanotheruser> IOError: ('http protocol error', 0, 'got a bad status line', None)
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 341 2014-06-03 04:38:18 <justanotheruser> http://hastebin.com/iwukonigak.hs
 342 2014-06-03 04:38:22 <justanotheruser> that is the basic code
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 444 2014-06-03 07:07:55 <gdm85> wumpus: since I managed to make the docker approach work for gitian builds, do you think we could mention it in the doc/gitian-build.md?
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 446 2014-06-03 07:08:31 <gdm85> surely can help at having more gitian builds, since it's almost fully automated
 447 2014-06-03 07:08:47 <wumpus> gdm85: my goal with gitian-build.md is to have one approach that works for everyone; I'm fine with mentioning it, but don't add multiple equivalent options that are just technically different
 448 2014-06-03 07:09:10 <wumpus> (ie, for example, I left the KVM versus LXC choice out of there)
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 451 2014-06-03 07:13:09 <gdm85> wumpus: I understand. I will temptatively add a hyperlink reference in the PR I am making
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 455 2014-06-03 07:15:47 <gdm85> wumpus: what do you think about (in future, not now) having the dependencies in a separate list file?
 456 2014-06-03 07:16:34 <gdm85> one could streamline wget'ing them, and the docs would need less changes across versions in case of dep changes
 457 2014-06-03 07:17:10 <wumpus> I understand the rationale, but I like having everything in one file
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 459 2014-06-03 07:17:22 <wumpus> a script that fetches al lthe dependencies would be useful of course
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 461 2014-06-03 07:17:37 <wumpus> (something like: fetch new dependencies if necessary)
 462 2014-06-03 07:18:36 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, derp http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KmwpfVXM
 463 2014-06-03 07:18:39 <phantomcircuit> that's more like it
 464 2014-06-03 07:18:47 <phantomcircuit> 20% doing sha256 ops
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 467 2014-06-03 07:19:01 <phantomcircuit> really highlights how retarded it is to make the pow mode expensive
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 470 2014-06-03 07:21:34 <gdm85> wumpus: yeah indeed. not sure if it's more in the domain of our docs or gitian-builder features
 471 2014-06-03 07:22:23 <wumpus> 'build new intermediate dependencies if needed' would be useful too
 472 2014-06-03 07:22:28 <wumpus> would be sort of a makefile at the gitian level
 473 2014-06-03 07:22:36 <gdm85> yeah
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 476 2014-06-03 07:22:47 <wumpus> but yes, it's probably outside the scope of the docs
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 478 2014-06-03 07:23:20 <gdm85> now, on that docs page I would like to add (right before the make-base-vm commands) that user should cleanup the environment from undesired LC_* variables. what do you think about this? it is for sure the fix that would have saved me heaps of time in finding the hashes problem :)
 479 2014-06-03 07:23:42 <gdm85> (still, can be seen as a gitian-builder issue..)
 480 2014-06-03 07:24:00 <gdm85> but would be helpful to mention that it can give problems
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 482 2014-06-03 07:24:30 <wumpus> if LC_* variables are a problem, you should update gitian-builder to nuke them
 483 2014-06-03 07:24:57 <gdm85> I asked devrandom about that
 484 2014-06-03 07:24:58 <Luke-Jr> probably should anyway
 485 2014-06-03 07:24:59 <wumpus> let's not make the user do manual steps like that, it's easy to forget them
 486 2014-06-03 07:25:25 <wumpus> Luke-Jr: ideally nothing should 'leak into' LXC
 487 2014-06-03 07:25:34 <gdm85> wumpus: exactly
 488 2014-06-03 07:26:34 <gdm85> but it could be that those LC_* variables are polluting the make-base-vm's generated images only, not the commands executed afterwards. I didn't verify this..but likely they are polluting both
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 490 2014-06-03 07:26:59 <wumpus> they're even polluting the *making of* the VMs? ouch
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 492 2014-06-03 07:27:04 <gdm85> only thing I know is that unsetting them and performing all steps from scratch gave me same hashes as everybody else
 493 2014-06-03 07:27:12 <gdm85> wumpus: that's my speculation
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 495 2014-06-03 07:27:23 <Luke-Jr> I'd speculate it's the SSH
 496 2014-06-03 07:27:30 <gdm85> Luke-Jr: yep
 497 2014-06-03 07:27:35 <wumpus> the environment should definitely be sanitized then
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 499 2014-06-03 07:27:57 <wumpus> both before creating the vm images and before calling into them
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 502 2014-06-03 07:28:20 <wumpus> who knows what else other obscure environment settings could mess with
 503 2014-06-03 07:28:22 <gdm85> yes. for example in the guide it is mentioned that you can pick any locale, now I am not so sure..
 504 2014-06-03 07:28:33 <wumpus> you should be able to pick any locale you want
 505 2014-06-03 07:28:39 <poutine> How do you know when someone sends money to you via a multisig address?
 506 2014-06-03 07:28:45 <wumpus> the outer OS shouldn't matter that much, it's not part of the determinish
 507 2014-06-03 07:28:50 <wumpus> determinism*
 508 2014-06-03 07:28:53 <gdm85> yeah, I agree
 509 2014-06-03 07:29:11 <Luke-Jr> ssh -o SendEnv=
 510 2014-06-03 07:29:14 <Luke-Jr> may do the trick
 511 2014-06-03 07:30:03 <gdm85> Luke-Jr, wumpus perhaps we could mention that modified ssh syntax in the docs for the time being until gitian-builder has a proper (acknowledged) fix?
 512 2014-06-03 07:30:24 <wumpus> LXC doesn't use ssh AFAIK
 513 2014-06-03 07:30:35 <wumpus> but for KVM it makes senes
 514 2014-06-03 07:30:51 <wumpus> I don't see what mentioning it in the docs would help, the ssh calls are done internally in gitian, the user has no control over them
 515 2014-06-03 07:31:06 <wumpus> the only way to fix this is to fix the gitian builder
 516 2014-06-03 07:31:20 <gdm85> wumpus: it helps: if your first SSH is not polluted, the subsequent won't
 517 2014-06-03 07:31:53 <gdm85> hold on, will pastebin a docs diff
 518 2014-06-03 07:32:00 <wumpus> really, just fix gitian builder, it consists of some simple ruby scripts
 519 2014-06-03 07:32:08 <Luke-Jr> env -i <anything> then :p
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 521 2014-06-03 07:33:10 * gdm85 <-- not ruby fluent :(
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 523 2014-06-03 07:33:31 <wumpus> it's almost the same as python
 524 2014-06-03 07:33:33 <gdm85> I have been through many languages & dialects, but not much ruby so far..
 525 2014-06-03 07:33:55 <Luke-Jr> the relevant code is probably bash
 526 2014-06-03 07:34:00 <Luke-Jr> bin/on-target
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 530 2014-06-03 07:37:27 <gdm85> Luke-Jr: coryfields proposed to add LANG and LC_ALL, but not sure that would cover the (possible, not confirmed) pollution of the base VM creation
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 532 2014-06-03 07:38:25 <wumpus> it wouldn't; you'd have to do the same in make-base-vm
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 555 2014-06-03 07:54:29 <wumpus> another programming language, woohoo, let's scatter and fragment the development community even further
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 565 2014-06-03 08:00:11 <SomeoneWeird> wumpus, hehe, just what i was thinking
 566 2014-06-03 08:01:06 <lianj> much room for packagemanager innovations again :D
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 623 2014-06-03 09:15:35 <gdm85> wumpus: do you still think that we should use sort -s -n instead of simple sort? If yes I will put a commit for the gitian descriptors in the PR I am going to submit now
 624 2014-06-03 09:15:57 <gdm85> because one could say: if the environment is sane you do not need to specify -s -n
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 628 2014-06-03 09:17:01 <kiddouk> got a question regarding OP_CHECKMULTISIG
 629 2014-06-03 09:17:32 <kiddouk> The documentation says : All signatures need to match a public key.
 630 2014-06-03 09:18:06 <kiddouk> Meaning that I could repeat the same public key , let's say 2 times. And insert twice the same signature.
 631 2014-06-03 09:18:24 <kiddouk> Would that work ? (I guess yes, but would like to be certain).
 632 2014-06-03 09:19:17 <kiddouk> And aside, can I have 1 public key and twice the same signature, or MUST they go by pair only ?
 633 2014-06-03 09:20:15 <kiddouk> meaning that we have move signature that public key
 634 2014-06-03 09:20:25 <kiddouk> (The documentation only explains for the inverse situation – more public key than sigs.)
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 636 2014-06-03 09:21:10 <kiddouk> we have moRe* signatures thaN* publick key
 637 2014-06-03 09:21:14 <kiddouk> (typo)
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 677 2014-06-03 10:01:50 <gdm85> for all those interested in building deterministically using gitian + docker + LXC: https://github.com/gdm85/tenku/blob/master/docker/gitian-bitcoin-host/README.md
 678 2014-06-03 10:02:12 <gdm85> it is almost fully automated, so less pain expected in future :)
 679 2014-06-03 10:03:55 <wumpus> gdm85: eh, it makes no sense to add the -o SendEnv= to that ssh command in the guide
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 681 2014-06-03 10:04:09 <wumpus> it's for connecting to the *outer* VM
 682 2014-06-03 10:04:29 <wumpus> you want the environment to be filtered when going to the inner VM (so, LXC in this case)
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 686 2014-06-03 10:06:30 <gdm85> wumpus: I replied also on github. it is effective because if your initial SSH shell is not poisoned, those coming afterwards can't be either
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 690 2014-06-03 10:07:53 <wumpus> that's extrememly brittle; the outer VM may also not have the 'right' locale
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 692 2014-06-03 10:08:31 <kiddouk> wumpus: any chance that you have an answer to my question (read above) ?
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 694 2014-06-03 10:09:14 <wumpus> or what if the outer VM isn't a VM but a real machine
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 698 2014-06-03 10:09:17 <wumpus> no ssh needed
 699 2014-06-03 10:10:22 <wumpus> kiddouk: yes, you could do a N-out-of-N with N times the same key
 700 2014-06-03 10:10:28 <gdm85> wumpus: sure, then one should consider that step also as being part of the VirtualBox-specific section. I will remove that
 701 2014-06-03 10:10:54 <gdm85> let me know about other amends, then I can update the commit
 702 2014-06-03 10:11:02 <kiddouk> wumpus: and what about N signatures and only 1 time the same key ? Or do they go by pairs only ?
 703 2014-06-03 10:11:03 <wumpus> gdm85: as I've said before, I'd like this to be solved either in the gitian builder or in the descriptors
 704 2014-06-03 10:11:10 <wumpus> kiddouk: I don't know
 705 2014-06-03 10:11:13 <kiddouk> Damn, I have to read that bitcoin code rather sooner than later.
 706 2014-06-03 10:11:17 <kiddouk> Ok. Will read then.
 707 2014-06-03 10:11:24 <kiddouk> thanks wumpus for the input.
 708 2014-06-03 10:11:45 <wumpus> gdm85: I had a patch to the descriptors to sanitize the environment once, but people responded 'this is not needed, gitian does it'  .. but apparently not
 709 2014-06-03 10:12:29 <gdm85> wumpus: I can add a commit for the sort -s -n fix, but I didn' verify that such change alone will make hashes match. I verified only that cleaning up the shell environment before using gitian-builder gives out correct hashes at the end
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 711 2014-06-03 10:12:33 <gdm85> ah, that sucks.. :(
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 713 2014-06-03 10:13:08 <gdm85> probably using sort -s -n will make all hashes change for good (although untie them from locales/env)
 714 2014-06-03 10:13:30 <wumpus> and I checked the gitian builder code then, and indeed it set some environment variables, so I have no clue what is happening here
 715 2014-06-03 10:13:57 <wumpus> gdm85: I agree with you with regard to sort -s -n ... instead of forcing every single command into no-locale mode, it makes more sense to force a locale for the whole script
 716 2014-06-03 10:14:19 <wumpus> otherwise it's too easy to forget one
 717 2014-06-03 10:14:51 <gdm85> wumpus: so far my "feeling" is that setting LANG/LC_ALL is not enough, one has to unset the individual vars. but this is counterintuitive for how I know LANG/LC_ALL should work..so needs more testing
 718 2014-06-03 10:14:54 <wumpus> I mean, sort is not the only unix command affected by the locale
 719 2014-06-03 10:15:01 <gdm85> yep
 720 2014-06-03 10:16:31 <wumpus> gdm85: maybe try to patch libexec/on-target first to undefine the environment variables before launching the command on the guest, and if that isn't enough
 721 2014-06-03 10:16:41 <wumpus> gdm85: then patch the vmbuilder too
 722 2014-06-03 10:16:53 <gdm85> uhm, the vmbuilder..I had forgot about that guy..
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 724 2014-06-03 10:17:18 <wumpus> but I *think* only on-target should be enough, if you force a locale there, it should take precedence over the system locale defined in vmbuilder (and people won't have to rebuild their images...)
 725 2014-06-03 10:17:55 <gdm85> wumpus: ok, will try this. luckily with the stuff I prepared it is easy to iterate
 726 2014-06-03 10:18:16 <gdm85> but later, not now
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 728 2014-06-03 10:19:33 <wumpus> gdm85: thanks a lot for trying to improve the gitian process anyhow :)
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 730 2014-06-03 10:20:29 <gdm85> wumpus: oh, you're welcome! I thought there would be many more issues to get this working through docker containers, but it was easy in the end. just a locale issue and coryfields pointed that to me (I would *never* have thought of it..)
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 732 2014-06-03 10:21:07 <gdm85> did you see the diagram? https://github.com/gdm85/tenku/tree/master/docker/gitian-host
 733 2014-06-03 10:22:10 <wumpus> gdm85: yes, looks good to me
 734 2014-06-03 10:23:18 <gdm85> perhaps I stretched the octagon too much.. :) now I need to go, will try to better narrow down the locale issue later
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 740 2014-06-03 10:34:37 <wumpus> gdm85: I'm interested though: what locale causes problems?
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 742 2014-06-03 10:35:41 <gdm85> wumpus: dutch :D but set for almost all e.g. monetary address etc
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 745 2014-06-03 10:43:43 <wumpus> ok yes I'm dutch but am not using the dutch locale, so that's probably why I haven't noticed
 746 2014-06-03 10:44:38 <sipa> kiddouk: every signature must match exactly one public key; there can be excess public keys, but not excess signatures
 747 2014-06-03 10:46:28 <kiddouk> sipa: thanks for clarifying this for me.
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 767 2014-06-03 11:08:02 <gdm85> wumpus: I have removed the -o SendEnv= suggestion from the PR
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 805 2014-06-03 12:20:29 <uiop> played out on my laptop daily
 806 2014-06-03 12:20:32 <uiop> ;)
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 808 2014-06-03 12:23:48 <uiop> void abort(void){while(1) printf("\a");} /*it could be worse*/
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 899 2014-06-03 14:24:55 <crunk-juice> Were there ever any SPV wallets for IOS?
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 914 2014-06-03 14:33:10 <t7> if you root it
 915 2014-06-03 14:33:34 <t7> or get a device that lets you install the software YOU choose
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 917 2014-06-03 14:34:45 <dsnrk> crunk-juice: not that I am aware of. there's a number of them but they all use central models. there's a SPV library in objective C though, so I don't think there's much stopping it happening.
 918 2014-06-03 14:34:46 <crunk-juice> i meant before the apple ban
 919 2014-06-03 14:35:12 <crunk-juice> i have an android wallet that I'm interested in putting on the ios platform
 920 2014-06-03 14:35:19 <dsnrk> apple never banned bitcoin apps. the CoinJar.io wallet has never been removed.
 921 2014-06-03 14:35:41 <crunk-juice> but coinbase, blockchain, etc... have right?
 922 2014-06-03 14:35:56 <Hasimir> but a bunch of apps never made it past their vetting process, arguably the same thing
 923 2014-06-03 14:36:06 <crunk-juice> there is a reason people were smashing iphones a couple months ago...i hope
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 927 2014-06-03 14:36:40 <dsnrk> no that was just reddit users being stupid.
 928 2014-06-03 14:37:00 <crunk-juice> lol
 929 2014-06-03 14:37:40 <wumpus> plaease take this to #bitcoin, this is not development related
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 931 2014-06-03 14:38:09 <crunk-juice> Anyone got a link to the objective c client?
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 953 2014-06-03 14:58:38 <Hasimir> dsnrk, that implies there's a time when reddit users aren't being stupid ...
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1043 2014-06-03 16:57:52 <jgarzik> wumpus, Has the release announcement actually gone out yet?  http://newsbtc.com/2014/06/03/bitcoin-core-version-0-9-2-released/
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1063 2014-06-03 17:14:07 <Emcy> Per-peer block download tracking and stalled download detection
1064 2014-06-03 17:14:22 <Emcy> the second item is great but what is per peer block download about?
1065 2014-06-03 17:14:44 <Emcy> bull blocks from all your peers in turn?
1066 2014-06-03 17:14:47 <Emcy> pull
1067 2014-06-03 17:14:56 <wumpus> jgarzik: no, it hasn't
1068 2014-06-03 17:15:32 <wumpus> the announcement was accidentally already posted on the bitcoin foundation blog
1069 2014-06-03 17:16:01 <jgarzik> ah
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1071 2014-06-03 17:16:40 <wumpus> it was removed pretty quickly, but seemingly other sites picked it up
1072 2014-06-03 17:16:52 <wumpus> everyone is always too eager to announce a new release
1073 2014-06-03 17:17:14 <jgarzik> wumpus, indeed, though I think in this case the linked-to news outlet simply assumed that tag == release
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1075 2014-06-03 17:18:03 <wumpus> right, and they don't distinguish between the release candidate and the release
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1083 2014-06-03 17:25:38 <maaku> knotwork: is Mergecoin the most up to date bitcoind with namecoin merged mining patches? People are pointing me to various repos of yours
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1106 2014-06-03 17:48:45 <Luke-Jr> someone to decide whether RPC is English or American? <.<
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1108 2014-06-03 17:50:14 <jcrubino> What do they say in Australia?
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1119 2014-06-03 18:01:21 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, lol ok yeah
1120 2014-06-03 18:01:23 <phantomcircuit> i was wrong
1121 2014-06-03 18:01:37 <phantomcircuit> nearly all of the cpu time is spent on sha256 and malloc/free
1122 2014-06-03 18:01:51 <phantomcircuit> but very heavily weighted towards sha256
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1127 2014-06-03 18:03:05 <devrandom> lastlog devr
1128 2014-06-03 18:03:12 <devrandom> urgh
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1131 2014-06-03 18:04:59 <devrandom> gdm85: thank you for digging into the discrepancy.  any chance of a pull request with the LC* stuff? :)
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1174 2014-06-03 18:56:09 <cfields> ahh, finally
1175 2014-06-03 18:56:22 <cfields> sorry if i was spamming dis/reconnects for a while, my ircd was giving me fits
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1180 2014-06-03 19:05:46 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: yea, so the next question is how many of those sha256s are totally redundant.
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1182 2014-06-03 19:06:32 <gmaxwell> might be kinda fun to just instrument the call to the hash output with something that checks it against a hashmap.
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1189 2014-06-03 19:10:30 <AndyOfiesh> I believe that I have verified that 3-of-5 multi-sig p2sh (non-compressed) keys is considered non-standard in bitcoind 0.9.1
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1191 2014-06-03 19:10:35 <AndyOfiesh> 2-of-5 works
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1193 2014-06-03 19:10:43 <AndyOfiesh> Here is the output from my test http://pastebin.com/5hNVvvY2
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1195 2014-06-03 19:10:56 <stephenreed> I want a census of full nodes and spv nodes. I know bitnodes.io crawls the network with getaddr. Does this function count connected SPV nodes too?
1196 2014-06-03 19:11:06 <AndyOfiesh> Can anyone link me to a 3-of-5 tx spend on the block chain?
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1199 2014-06-03 19:12:14 <AndyOfiesh> On the 3-of-5 spend I believe it's hitting this condition         if (txin.scriptSig.size() > 1650) {
1200 2014-06-03 19:12:14 <AndyOfiesh>             reason = "scriptsig-size";
1201 2014-06-03 19:12:14 <AndyOfiesh>             return false;
1202 2014-06-03 19:12:14 <AndyOfiesh>         }
1203 2014-06-03 19:12:32 <AndyOfiesh> The scriptsig-size error shows up in the log
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1206 2014-06-03 19:12:46 <gmaxwell> stephenreed: no, they can't be counted. also even the spidering only gets a small portion of the full nodes.
1207 2014-06-03 19:12:54 <AndyOfiesh> The thing is my script sig  is only 570 something bytes
1208 2014-06-03 19:13:08 <AndyOfiesh> this is over the limit for the previous version of the code
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1210 2014-06-03 19:13:38 <stephenreed> gmaxwell: anyones guess then as to the number of SPV clients a full node can support?
1211 2014-06-03 19:14:33 <AndyOfiesh> It used to be > 500. That is before march when this was pushed 4d79098ad548874ca6e4c09d873fc2f481e6edb4
1212 2014-06-03 19:14:40 <gmaxwell> they cost the same to support as a full node, assuming they aren't catching up with the chain. Nodes normally support a maximum of 125 connections.
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1214 2014-06-03 19:15:48 <stephenreed> gmaxwell: Thanks.
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1216 2014-06-03 19:16:34 <AndyOfiesh> The 2-of-5 is considered standard, and it's scriptsig size 480 something.
1217 2014-06-03 19:16:44 <AndyOfiesh> It's as if that code change is not there
1218 2014-06-03 19:16:59 <AndyOfiesh> getinfo shows that I'm on the latest version
1219 2014-06-03 19:17:08 <sipa> which version?
1220 2014-06-03 19:17:12 <sipa> 0.9.1 is not master
1221 2014-06-03 19:17:18 <AndyOfiesh> 0.9.1
1222 2014-06-03 19:17:29 <sipa> that does nit have that change
1223 2014-06-03 19:17:29 <AndyOfiesh> So maybe thats not in a release yet?
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1225 2014-06-03 19:17:34 <sipa> 0.10 will
1226 2014-06-03 19:18:03 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, actually that's not a bad idea
1227 2014-06-03 19:18:04 <AndyOfiesh> Well that's the answer then.
1228 2014-06-03 19:18:14 <AndyOfiesh> Thanks
1229 2014-06-03 19:18:25 <phantomcircuit> they're all going through the Hash function anyways
1230 2014-06-03 19:18:31 <phantomcircuit> so that should be fairly trivial to test
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1232 2014-06-03 19:18:51 <sipa> i did that a long time ago
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1235 2014-06-03 19:19:12 <sipa> and removed all duplicates that occur during ibd
1236 2014-06-03 19:19:22 <sipa> but there may have been extra ones introduced
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1238 2014-06-03 19:19:28 <sipa> in fact, i know there have
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1241 2014-06-03 19:19:55 <Hasimir> ah, sipa, if you ever find yourself in the antipodes, I believe I owe you a beer/drink of your choice  :)
1242 2014-06-03 19:20:28 <sipa> ... australia?
1243 2014-06-03 19:20:35 <Hasimir> yah
1244 2014-06-03 19:20:43 <sipa> never been there :(
1245 2014-06-03 19:20:56 <Hasimir> a certain samba server was indeed the fault
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1247 2014-06-03 19:21:06 <sipa> ah :)
1248 2014-06-03 19:21:14 <Hasimir> but the vdi sitting on it now is syncing wuite nicely
1249 2014-06-03 19:21:22 <Luke-Jr> Hasimir: if you give something priority, what is the verb you use? :P
1250 2014-06-03 19:21:22 <Hasimir> *quite
1251 2014-06-03 19:21:50 <Hasimir> Luke-Jr, "to the bar!"
1252 2014-06-03 19:22:03 <Luke-Jr> lolwut
1253 2014-06-03 19:22:09 <Luke-Jr> Hasimir: no, you _______ it <.<
1254 2014-06-03 19:22:20 <sipa> "sudo _____"
1255 2014-06-03 19:22:32 <gmaxwell> Hasimir: just play along, what word would you use for that?
1256 2014-06-03 19:22:34 <Hasimir> inebriate, dilapidate ... escalate
1257 2014-06-03 19:22:58 <gmaxwell> Hasimir: he just wants the verb "to give priority" from you
1258 2014-06-03 19:23:00 <Hasimir> possibly defenestrate
1259 2014-06-03 19:23:04 <Hasimir> depending on mood
1260 2014-06-03 19:23:41 <Luke-Jr> Hasimir: say you're mining, and someone wants to pay you to confirm their transaction before others with the same fee..
1261 2014-06-03 19:23:45 <Hasimir> prioritise
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1265 2014-06-03 19:24:53 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: told you.
1266 2014-06-03 19:24:58 <gmaxwell> (in pm)
1267 2014-06-03 19:25:03 <Hasimir> ah
1268 2014-06-03 19:25:13 <Luke-Jr> jcrubino: ^
1269 2014-06-03 19:25:22 <gmaxwell> I don't know why he was asking, but I assumed he wanted to know if you would use the US or UK spelling.
1270 2014-06-03 19:25:43 <Luke-Jr> [17:46:54] <jcrubino> What do they say in Australia?
1271 2014-06-03 19:25:48 <jcrubino> yes
1272 2014-06-03 19:25:50 <jcrubino> RPC
1273 2014-06-03 19:25:52 <jcrubino> ?
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1275 2014-06-03 19:27:04 <Hasimir> jcrubino, <Hasimir> prioritise
1276 2014-06-03 19:27:14 <Hasimir> there you go
1277 2014-06-03 19:27:20 <jcrubino> hmm
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1279 2014-06-03 19:29:23 <sipa> and is that traditional english or simplified english?
1280 2014-06-03 19:29:30 <sipa> i always forget which is which
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1282 2014-06-03 19:30:06 <Hasimir> much of a muchness
1283 2014-06-03 19:30:52 <Hasimir> the uk vs. us thing generally boils down to: s vs. z, u vs. no u and some pronunciation
1284 2014-06-03 19:31:19 <sipa> ok, prioritise is traditional, prioritize is simplified
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1286 2014-06-03 19:31:23 <Hasimir> oh, and gaol vs. jail
1287 2014-06-03 19:31:24 <Luke-Jr> sipa: the original question, which may be unrelated to Australia, is whether RPC should be English English or American
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1289 2014-06-03 19:31:50 <sipa> i see
1290 2014-06-03 19:32:08 <sipa> let's introduce i18n support for rpc
1291 2014-06-03 19:32:18 <sipa> (j/k)
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1293 2014-06-03 19:32:32 <Hasimir> I think it would depend on how polite the function is meant to be
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1295 2014-06-03 19:33:04 <sipa> i will leave this discussion to native english speakers
1296 2014-06-03 19:33:56 <Hasimir> if it's an imperative, American, if it's a queued request then English
1297 2014-06-03 19:34:28 <Hasimir> then you can argue your code has character too, perhaps even a little flair
1298 2014-06-03 19:34:49 <sipa> perhaps it shoyld use scittish
1299 2014-06-03 19:34:53 <sipa> *scittish
1300 2014-06-03 19:34:59 <sipa> *scOttish
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1303 2014-06-03 19:35:31 <Hasimir> aye, but then only a wee few of us will understand ...
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1359 2014-06-03 20:35:26 <justanotheruser> Is there a way to set my testnet port? I don't know what it is and 18333 is returning IOError: ('http protocol error', 0, 'got a bad status line', None)
1360 2014-06-03 20:35:42 <justanotheruser> or at least I think it may be my port number that's wrong and causing that problem
1361 2014-06-03 20:36:01 <justanotheruser> well would it even be returning that if the port no was wrong
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1363 2014-06-03 20:36:56 <Ry4an> you can check it with something like 'sudo netstat --tcp --listening -p -n' but if something is answering on port 18333 you've probably got the right port and the wrong message
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1367 2014-06-03 20:40:14 <justanotheruser> Ry4an: yes, it is bitcoind. What would be causing that error? All I do is print getinfo.
1368 2014-06-03 20:40:23 <justanotheruser> I started bitcoind with --testnet --server
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1371 2014-06-03 20:45:53 <Ry4an> from that message it really sounds like it's expecting a HTTP request.  What, exactly are you sending to that port?
1372 2014-06-03 20:46:13 <justanotheruser> Ry4an: well I connect http://uname:pass:localhost:port
1373 2014-06-03 20:46:30 <sipa> 18333 is the p2p port
1374 2014-06-03 20:46:31 <justanotheruser> It's in python so I do access = ServiceProxy(http://unam...)
1375 2014-06-03 20:46:32 <sipa> use 18332
1376 2014-06-03 20:46:36 <justanotheruser> :O
1377 2014-06-03 20:46:38 <justanotheruser> ok thanks
1378 2014-06-03 20:46:47 <Ry4an> :)
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1381 2014-06-03 20:48:23 <justanotheruser> thanks sipa Ry4an it worked
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1390 2014-06-03 21:03:24 <Ry4an> t'was all sipa. I just know netstat well :)
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1392 2014-06-03 21:05:35 <rvoellmy> help /join
1393 2014-06-03 21:05:56 <rvoellmy> asd
1394 2014-06-03 21:06:04 <sipa> ?
1395 2014-06-03 21:07:42 <rvoellmy> sorry using irssi for the first time. I did not mean to send these messages :)
1396 2014-06-03 21:08:52 <snoopstr> irssi rocks :)
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1402 2014-06-03 21:15:34 <Ry4an> /help join # but I imagine you've figured that out by now :)
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1437 2014-06-03 21:41:43 <justanotheruser> How is bitcoind able to verify a message if it only has the hashed public key and a message and a signature? Wouldn't it need a public key?
1438 2014-06-03 21:42:00 <belcher> you can derive the public key from the message and signature
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1440 2014-06-03 21:42:23 <sipa> yup
1441 2014-06-03 21:42:39 <sipa> unfortunately, this fact was not known to satoshi, so transactions don't use that
1442 2014-06-03 21:42:49 <justanotheruser> oh
1443 2014-06-03 21:42:59 <justanotheruser> well wouldn't that be a softfork?
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1446 2014-06-03 21:43:50 <sipa> + changing every wallet on earth
1447 2014-06-03 21:44:23 <justanotheruser> oh yeah
1448 2014-06-03 21:44:39 <justanotheruser> well it could just make every wallet have the option to send to address 2.0 right?
1449 2014-06-03 21:44:50 <sipa> yup
1450 2014-06-03 21:45:02 <sipa> but it would be a very invasive softfork
1451 2014-06-03 21:45:07 <justanotheruser> okay, thanks guys
1452 2014-06-03 21:45:09 <sipa> perhaps we rather want it as a hardfork
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1480 2014-06-03 22:02:36 <justanotheruser> If someone gives me a pubkey and an address is there an RPC call to verify that that address is derived from the pubkey?
1481 2014-06-03 22:02:45 <justanotheruser> Or do I have to construct it myself?
1482 2014-06-03 22:03:07 <sipa> afaik no rpc for that exists
1483 2014-06-03 22:03:20 <sipa> but it's just hashing + converting to base58
1484 2014-06-03 22:03:32 <justanotheruser> indeed
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1487 2014-06-03 22:03:49 <justanotheruser> I'll probably just do all my crypto using python libs instead of RPC calls then
1488 2014-06-03 22:04:17 <justanotheruser> makes more sense anyways I think :)
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1490 2014-06-03 22:05:25 <sipa> absolutely
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1507 2014-06-03 22:17:07 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, facepalm
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1509 2014-06-03 22:17:20 <phantomcircuit> the *vast* majority of calls to Hash return duplicate results
1510 2014-06-03 22:17:27 <phantomcircuit> total: 1000000 duplicates: 909089 counters.size: 90911
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1513 2014-06-03 22:19:11 <sipa> phantomcircuit: is that with --disable-wallet ?
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1517 2014-06-03 22:19:47 <phantomcircuit> sipa, no it's not
1518 2014-06-03 22:20:22 <sipa> can you try with --disable-wallet? that will assess whether the duplicates are in wallet code or not
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1524 2014-06-03 22:23:15 <phantomcircuit> sipa, worth a try, this wallet is mostly empty though so who knows
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1526 2014-06-03 22:23:38 <sipa> let me fix a few obvious ones first...
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1528 2014-06-03 22:23:45 <phantomcircuit> i should probably actually go back to work lol
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1531 2014-06-03 22:25:21 <phantomcircuit> sipa, lol nope it's not
1532 2014-06-03 22:25:25 <phantomcircuit> total: 700000 duplicates: 636362 counters.size: 63638
1533 2014-06-03 22:25:30 <phantomcircuit> w/ --disable-wallet
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1536 2014-06-03 22:26:21 <phantomcircuit> sipa, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=1P0zhFLT
1537 2014-06-03 22:26:26 <phantomcircuit> that does what i think it does right?
1538 2014-06-03 22:29:30 <phantomcircuit> yeah it seems to
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1545 2014-06-03 22:32:10 <sipa> oh my
1546 2014-06-03 22:32:19 <sipa> there are many redundant tx hash computations...
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1550 2014-06-03 22:33:47 <phantomcircuit> sipa, i wonder what that is
1551 2014-06-03 22:33:56 <phantomcircuit> im going to do a histogram of the lengths
1552 2014-06-03 22:34:07 <sipa> i have fixed 4 cases already
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1556 2014-06-03 22:40:38 <kiddouk> so, I have sent some funds to a P2SH wallet. Now that I want to spend them, troubles are coming >_<
1557 2014-06-03 22:40:50 <kiddouk> s/wallet/address
1558 2014-06-03 22:41:54 <kiddouk> I have made a transaction that I can decode (see http://pastebin.com/CtaqNUNA )
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1560 2014-06-03 22:42:08 <kiddouk> I have verified that the signature are matchine the publick keys
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1564 2014-06-03 22:42:45 <kiddouk> I have verified that the hash_160(redeem_script) is equal to the hash160 of the previous tx
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1566 2014-06-03 22:43:00 <kiddouk> and verified that no other operation than push_data are in script sig
1567 2014-06-03 22:43:20 <phantomcircuit> sipa, it's nearly all 80 bytes, which means it's probably all block headers hashes
1568 2014-06-03 22:43:50 <kiddouk> Yet, the bitcoin client says : ERROR: CScriptCheck() : af5b9a5fd2dff60170b1e2e2260427f5f33a5776b6269e13c7a56f3689126913 VerifySignature failed
1569 2014-06-03 22:44:14 <kiddouk> What can I do wrong that trigger a failure in connecting in the inputs ?
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1571 2014-06-03 22:44:32 <phantomcircuit> sipa,
1572 2014-06-03 22:44:33 <phantomcircuit> total: 1600000 duplicates: 1454521 counters.size: 145479
1573 2014-06-03 22:44:33 <phantomcircuit> 32 25
1574 2014-06-03 22:44:33 <phantomcircuit> 80 1599975
1575 2014-06-03 22:44:38 <sipa> phantomcircuit: oh, i've mostly been looking at transaction hashes, as there are much more of those
1576 2014-06-03 22:44:40 <phantomcircuit> what are the 32 byte ones?
1577 2014-06-03 22:44:45 <sipa> double sha256?
1578 2014-06-03 22:44:50 <sipa> oh
1579 2014-06-03 22:44:57 <phantomcircuit> sipa, i instrumented the Hash function
1580 2014-06-03 22:45:02 <sipa> ok
1581 2014-06-03 22:45:09 <sipa> that's not possible
1582 2014-06-03 22:45:16 <phantomcircuit> except....
1583 2014-06-03 22:45:20 <sipa> oh
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1585 2014-06-03 22:45:31 <sipa> not all hash computations use Hash()
1586 2014-06-03 22:45:43 <sipa> there is CHashSerializer
1587 2014-06-03 22:45:52 <phantomcircuit> ooh
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1589 2014-06-03 22:46:01 <phantomcircuit> well that should make it easier to narrow down then
1590 2014-06-03 22:46:02 <phantomcircuit> heh
1591 2014-06-03 22:46:27 <sipa> i expect that there are much much more hashes done through that
1592 2014-06-03 22:46:44 <phantomcircuit> sipa, CHashWriter?
1593 2014-06-03 22:46:48 <phantomcircuit> i dont see a CHashSerializer
1594 2014-06-03 22:46:49 <sipa> yes
1595 2014-06-03 22:46:50 <sipa> that
1596 2014-06-03 22:47:21 <sipa> indirectly called through SerializeHash
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1598 2014-06-03 22:49:33 <phantomcircuit> hmm well i cant record the size with that one (easily)
1599 2014-06-03 22:49:44 <phantomcircuit> but i can record the duplicates
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1601 2014-06-03 22:50:13 <phantomcircuit> CHashWriter total: 1100000 duplicates: 804115 counters.size: 295885
1602 2014-06-03 22:50:13 <phantomcircuit> Hash total: 1100000 duplicates: 999998 counters.size: 100002
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1604 2014-06-03 22:50:27 <phantomcircuit> doesn't look much better
1605 2014-06-03 22:50:43 <sipa> are those simultaneously?
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1608 2014-06-03 22:51:04 <phantomcircuit> sipa, yeah
1609 2014-06-03 22:51:05 <sipa> as in: are there exactly 1100000 hashes done with hashwriter while there are 1100000 done with hash?
1610 2014-06-03 22:51:10 <phantomcircuit> sipa, oh
1611 2014-06-03 22:51:11 <phantomcircuit> no
1612 2014-06-03 22:51:17 <sipa> please count them :)
1613 2014-06-03 22:51:26 <phantomcircuit> man that's slightly harder to do
1614 2014-06-03 22:51:27 <sipa> i expect a factor 10 or more hashwriter ones
1615 2014-06-03 22:51:41 <phantomcircuit> sipa, CHashWriter total: 9600000 duplicates: 7556734 counters.size: 2043266
1616 2014-06-03 22:51:41 <phantomcircuit> Hash total: 1700000 duplicates: 1545379 counters.size: 154621
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1619 2014-06-03 22:51:53 <phantomcircuit> the first one is from the start the second from the end
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1622 2014-06-03 22:53:44 <sipa> phantomcircuit: #4283
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1631 2014-06-03 22:58:35 <phantomcircuit> sipa, neat
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1643 2014-06-03 23:02:43 <therion> Hey All....
1644 2014-06-03 23:02:48 <therion> I have a problem...
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1646 2014-06-03 23:02:55 <therion> Am I in the right place?  lol
1647 2014-06-03 23:03:52 <therion> I am having a problem with Multibit...   Missing Transaction
1648 2014-06-03 23:04:14 <sipa> #bitcoin
1649 2014-06-03 23:04:33 <therion> I have tried everything on the multibit site...  Resetting transaction and now its gone
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1651 2014-06-03 23:04:48 <therion> Are you telling me I should be in just bitcoin room?, Sipa
1652 2014-06-03 23:04:48 <therion> ?
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1654 2014-06-03 23:05:29 <sipa> yes
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1656 2014-06-03 23:05:42 <therion> Okay, Thank You Sipa
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1764 2014-06-03 23:46:07 <justanotheruser> Is there another name for Secp256k1?
1765 2014-06-03 23:46:18 <justanotheruser> ecdsa library doesn't recognize curve=Secp256k1
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1767 2014-06-03 23:47:12 <sipa> it's not a very common curve
1768 2014-06-03 23:47:18 <sipa> before bitcoin probably nothing used it
1769 2014-06-03 23:47:27 <justanotheruser> sipa: why was it used?
1770 2014-06-03 23:47:34 <gmaxwell> Because its awesome. :P
1771 2014-06-03 23:47:54 <maaku> openssl ecparam -list_curves
1772 2014-06-03 23:48:01 <sipa> because there were some theoretical optimizations possible with it, which were not implemented anywhere at the time
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1774 2014-06-03 23:48:11 <sipa> but satoshi liked that idea, apparently
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1776 2014-06-03 23:48:20 <sipa> and openssl had (non-optimized) support for it
1777 2014-06-03 23:48:34 <justanotheruser> hmm.
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1781 2014-06-03 23:49:10 <justanotheruser> any reccomended python libs containing Secp256k1?
1782 2014-06-03 23:49:11 <maaku> it also turns out that it is one of the few existing curves with nothing-up-your-sleeve numbers
1783 2014-06-03 23:49:19 <maaku> though satoshi probably didn't know that
1784 2014-06-03 23:49:30 <sipa> i don't think anyone knew that at the time
1785 2014-06-03 23:49:35 <maaku> justanotheruser: does speed matter?
1786 2014-06-03 23:49:43 <justanotheruser> maaku: no
1787 2014-06-03 23:49:58 <justanotheruser> This program will be validating a handful of signatures
1788 2014-06-03 23:50:10 <maaku> ecdsa is the easiest interface to use
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1790 2014-06-03 23:50:33 <justanotheruser> maaku: I tried         vk = VerifyingKey.from_string(theirPubkey, curve=Secp256k1)
1791 2014-06-03 23:50:40 <justanotheruser> but NameError: global name 'Secp256k1' is not defined
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1793 2014-06-03 23:50:59 <maaku> see https://github.com/monetizeio/python-bitcoin/blob/master/bitcoin/ecdsa_generic.py
1794 2014-06-03 23:51:07 <justanotheruser> ok brb
1795 2014-06-03 23:51:28 <sipa> wouldn't you need curve="secp256k1" instead?
1796 2014-06-03 23:51:34 <sipa> oh
1797 2014-06-03 23:51:35 <sipa> nvm
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1800 2014-06-03 23:52:49 <justanotheruser> maaku: is this ecdsa with all it's methods except including NameError: global name 'Secp256k1' is not defined
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1803 2014-06-03 23:53:04 <justanotheruser> ... except including secp256k1 support?
1804 2014-06-03 23:53:19 <justanotheruser> thought secp256k1 was on my clipboard :P
1805 2014-06-03 23:53:21 <maaku> justanotheruser: i've never imported curves from the ecdsa namespace
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1807 2014-06-03 23:53:45 <maaku> on line 24 of the file i linked, you can do : SECP256k1 = ecdsa.curves.find_curve((1, 3, 132, 0, 10))
1808 2014-06-03 23:54:00 <gmaxwell> that sounds .. reliable. :P
1809 2014-06-03 23:54:17 <maaku> look at that part of the file. it it fails, it monkey-patches support for secp256k1
1810 2014-06-03 23:54:34 <maaku> well it uses official apis so not really monkey-patching
1811 2014-06-03 23:55:03 <sipa> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/ecdsa/0.11
1812 2014-06-03 23:55:11 <sipa> ^ defines SECP256k1
1813 2014-06-03 23:56:47 <sipa> (with that exact capitalization)
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