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21 2014-06-14 00:47:09 <jgarzik> wow. btcd (the Go impl.) recreates bitcoind RPCs... including esoterica such as getmininginfo
22 2014-06-14 00:47:36 <jgarzik> It is somewhat inadvisable to pursue compatibility with an internal control plane
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35 2014-06-14 01:01:36 <jcorgan> i'm sure they do it so existing 3rd party software that talks RPC remains compatibile
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62 2014-06-14 01:49:21 <dhill> jgarzik: it was mainly added for simnet
63 2014-06-14 01:50:33 <dhill> since btcd added cpu mining (mainly for simnet).. might as well be compatible
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71 2014-06-14 02:06:28 <dsnrk> dhill: simnet == testnet?
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78 2014-06-14 02:09:59 <dhill> no, more like a private net for simulation testing
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80 2014-06-14 02:10:39 <dsnrk> oh, regtest?
81 2014-06-14 02:11:08 <dhill> --testnet Use the test network
82 2014-06-14 02:11:09 <dhill> --regtest Use the regression test network
83 2014-06-14 02:11:09 <dhill> --simnet Use the simulation test network
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85 2014-06-14 02:11:51 <dhill> dsnrk: https://github.com/conformal/btcd/commit/605eb7f4b4bb50505d0538af349b94b42fc3ab58
86 2014-06-14 02:11:52 <dsnrk> got it.
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97 2014-06-14 02:24:31 <phantomcircuit> 2014-06-14 02:23:55 UpdateTip: new best=0000000000000a3290f20e75860d505ce0e948a1d1d846bec7e39015d242884b height=150000 log2_work=67.003783 tx=1718407 date=2011-10-20 13:44:51 progress=0.022031
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109 2014-06-14 02:30:05 <phantomcircuit> sipa, how difficult would it be to just switch all wallets over to encrypted w/ a master key of ""
110 2014-06-14 02:30:27 <phantomcircuit> 2014-06-14 02:29:46 UpdateTip: new best=0000000000000a3290f20e75860d505ce0e948a1d1d846bec7e39015d242884b height=150000 log2_work=67.003783 tx=1718407 date=2011-10-20 13:44:51 progress=0.022031
111 2014-06-14 02:30:30 <phantomcircuit> 2014-06-14 02:27:50 UpdateTip: new best=000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f height=0 log2_work=32.000022 tx=1 date=2009-01-03 18:15:05 progress=0.000000
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118 2014-06-14 02:31:33 <phantomcircuit> sipa, yeah ~15% improvement for the first 150k blocks
119 2014-06-14 02:31:47 <jgarzik> Edit the file /etc/sx.cfg to point to my server. It might be offline so
120 2014-06-14 02:31:48 <jgarzik> no promises. I'm planning a more persistent one later.
121 2014-06-14 02:31:48 <jgarzik> $ vi /etc/sx.cfg
122 2014-06-14 02:31:48 <jgarzik> service = "tcp://46.4.92.107:9091"
123 2014-06-14 02:31:50 <jgarzik> </quote>
124 2014-06-14 02:31:51 <jgarzik> quality!
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126 2014-06-14 02:33:13 <phantomcircuit> heh
127 2014-06-14 02:33:15 <phantomcircuit> Hetzner
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137 2014-06-14 02:51:47 <jgarzik> Rather than rawtx, perhaps the tool should be "bitcoin-tx" to be a bit more friendly to the global /usr/bin binary namespace.
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139 2014-06-14 02:54:19 <skinnkavaj> Ghashcoin...
140 2014-06-14 02:54:52 <Luke-Jr> skinnkavaj: off-topic
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142 2014-06-14 02:56:48 <phantomcircuit> i keep saying it but nobody takes me up on it
143 2014-06-14 02:56:54 <phantomcircuit> send me money and i'll buy their hw
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145 2014-06-14 02:56:59 <phantomcircuit> put it on another pool
146 2014-06-14 02:57:49 <skinnkavaj> Luke-Jr: Do we have to have bitcoin 51% attacked before a hard fork?
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148 2014-06-14 02:58:16 <Luke-Jr> skinnkavaj: off-topic
149 2014-06-14 02:58:24 <Luke-Jr> skinnkavaj: try #bitcoin
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170 2014-06-14 03:22:02 <Guest14473> Can someone who knows auxpow.cpp very well (namecoin's merged mining), can you confirm this:
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172 2014-06-14 03:22:44 <Guest14473> if the parent chain has non-standard transactions (e.g. extra fields), namecoin won't know how to parse the transaction, is that correct?
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175 2014-06-14 03:26:56 <Luke-Jr> Guest14473: non-standard transactions don't have extra fields.
176 2014-06-14 03:27:05 <Luke-Jr> nor does namecoin try to parse them
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178 2014-06-14 03:28:42 <Guest14473> Luke-Jr: I mean parentcoin's tx format is different
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180 2014-06-14 03:29:07 <Luke-Jr> Guest14473: doesn't matter (and isn't, in this case)
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182 2014-06-14 03:30:42 <Guest14473> Luke-Jr: well namecoin parses the parentcoin coinbase transaction, right?
183 2014-06-14 03:30:48 <Luke-Jr> nope
184 2014-06-14 03:31:00 <Luke-Jr> actually, namecoin might
185 2014-06-14 03:31:03 <Luke-Jr> not sure
186 2014-06-14 03:31:06 <Luke-Jr> it doesn't have a reason to
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188 2014-06-14 03:32:51 <Guest14473> i mean as part of IMPLEMENT_SERIALIZE in auxpow, it first reads the coinbase tx, then the merkle path, then the index (if I am reading the code correctly)
189 2014-06-14 03:33:10 <Luke-Jr> ok
190 2014-06-14 03:33:13 <Luke-Jr> point is it doesn't matter
191 2014-06-14 03:34:08 <Guest14473> oh because you can rewrite it into a standard bitcoin/namecoin transaction?
192 2014-06-14 03:34:45 <Guest14473> no wait, that won't work because you wont have the path from the parent pow to the coinbase
193 2014-06-14 03:34:52 <Guest14473> i mean that merkle path won't validate
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203 2014-06-14 03:52:31 <Guest14473> yup
204 2014-06-14 03:52:33 <Guest14473> if (CBlock::CheckMerkleBranch(GetHash(), vMerkleBranch, nIndex) != parentBlock.hashMerkleRoot)
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206 2014-06-14 03:53:02 <Guest14473> the transaction has to be something namecoin understands
207 2014-06-14 03:53:22 <Guest14473> so e.g. freicoin can't be parent chain to namecoin
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264 2014-06-14 05:32:23 <wumpus> sheesh @ bitcoin-dev
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266 2014-06-14 05:37:50 <wumpus> someone might maliciously rearrange the deck chairs on the titanic!
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268 2014-06-14 05:38:23 <wumpus> anyhow, * [new tag] v0.9.2 -> v0.9.2
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271 2014-06-14 05:39:23 <owowo> as long as the band plays everything is alright. :P
272 2014-06-14 05:39:51 <jcorgan> congrats everyone on 0.9.2
273 2014-06-14 05:41:16 <wumpus> :P
274 2014-06-14 05:41:18 <wumpus> thanks jcorgan
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277 2014-06-14 05:44:32 <malikteen230> Hello.
278 2014-06-14 05:44:35 <malikteen230> Any developers?
279 2014-06-14 05:48:29 <malikteen230> msg/ @gribble Hello
280 2014-06-14 05:48:48 <kadoban> malikteen230: Generally on IRC you do a lot better just stating your question/concern/whatever than asking for someone to respond that they're around or asking to ask.
281 2014-06-14 05:49:17 <malikteen230> I see.
282 2014-06-14 05:49:50 <malikteen230> If I edit this MaruCoin code from "main.cpp": int64 static GetBlockValue(int nBits, int nHeight, int64 nFees) { double dDiff = (double)0x0000ffff / (double)(nBits & 0x00ffffff); dDiff = ConvertBitsToDouble(nBits); int64 nSubsidy = 0; if(nHeight >= 2000) { if((nHeight >= 7000 && dDiff > 75) || nHeight >= 15000) { // GPU/ASIC difficulty calc // 2222222/(((x+2600)/9)^2)
283 2014-06-14 05:49:54 <malikteen230> Uggh
284 2014-06-14 05:50:03 <malikteen230> If I edit this MaruCoin code from "main.cpp":
285 2014-06-14 05:50:24 <jcorgan> malikteen230: this is bitcoin-dev, your question is off-topic
286 2014-06-14 05:50:36 <gwillen> malikteen230: this is only an appropriate place for questions about working on bitcoin itself, not altcoins or derivatives
287 2014-06-14 05:50:52 <malikteen230> Where can I find altcoin dev irc?
288 2014-06-14 05:51:07 <gwillen> I don't know that there is one. But not here, sorry.
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291 2014-06-14 05:51:30 <malikteen230> Does BTC use block rewards?
292 2014-06-14 05:51:58 <gwillen> It does, yes, but that's the kind of question that would be more appropriate for #bitcoin, unless you have a question about the development of the bitcoin software itself.
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321 2014-06-14 06:35:24 <grunz_> Guys, how to set up testnet on bitcoind with difficulty 1? I put in testnet=3 and difficulty is 230!
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324 2014-06-14 06:37:08 <sci3nc3guy> anyone here can answer a straight question about openssl and how heartbleed might impact transaction verification?
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327 2014-06-14 06:43:54 <justanotheruser> sci3nc3guy: it doesn't effect verification. It effect encrypted communications with the daemon in <= v0.9
328 2014-06-14 06:44:35 <justanotheruser> grunz_: the difficulty is determined by the network... but I wasn't aware it was that high. Everyone uses testnet3, you could make your own if you like though
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330 2014-06-14 06:45:49 <grunz_> justanotheruser: itâs defintely something is wrong on my machine. I was checking the difficulty with blockexplorer.com/testnet and tbtc.blockr.io
331 2014-06-14 06:45:53 <grunz_> and it shows 1
332 2014-06-14 06:47:13 <grunz_> so, I canât understand why my testnet difficulty is 230. Also many people mention that they sync up testnet within 30 minutes, Iâve been syncing for days and itâs going very very slow ~ 1block per second
333 2014-06-14 06:47:29 <grunz_> there are 260k block
334 2014-06-14 06:47:31 <grunz_> s
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338 2014-06-14 06:54:45 <grunz_> never mind. for some reason now Iâm able to see that the difficulty is set to 1. No idea why it was showing 230 before. but the blocks synchonization is still very very slow :-( (8 connections)
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340 2014-06-14 06:56:44 <justanotheruser> grunz_: weird...
341 2014-06-14 06:57:33 <grunz_> justanotheruser: yeap. using bitcoind via homebrew package on mac. if I should change on linux let me know, I will do so. by the way, will every distro satisfy my needs?
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377 2014-06-14 07:50:38 <dsnrk> grunz_: you are welcome to peer with me if you need a faster node to sync from.
378 2014-06-14 07:50:58 <grunz_> dsnrk: how do I do it?
379 2014-06-14 07:51:35 <dsnrk> grunz_: bitcoind -testnet -connect=188.226.199.217:18332
380 2014-06-14 07:51:47 <grunz_> dsnrk: ok, thank you!
381 2014-06-14 07:52:04 <grunz_> is it testnet3?
382 2014-06-14 07:52:09 <dsnrk> mmhm
383 2014-06-14 07:53:00 <dsnrk> remember to remove that when you're done syncing, the -connect line will *only* make outgoing connections to my peer. that's fine for syncing, but you probably don't want that when it's actually in use.
384 2014-06-14 07:53:30 <sipa> every release since 0.7 has been testnet3
385 2014-06-14 07:56:32 <grunz_> sipa: ok
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387 2014-06-14 07:56:53 <grunz_> dsnrk: killed bitcoind and ran again with that commandâ¦no connections so far :-(
388 2014-06-14 07:57:30 <dsnrk> hm, I can't explain that. you're not in my logs either.
389 2014-06-14 07:57:56 <gmaxwell> Hopefully by "killed" you mean shutdown cleanly? killing during initial block download is likely to corrupt what you've downloaded and loaded so farâ¦
390 2014-06-14 07:58:27 <grunz_> gmaxwell: :-( let me see the logs
391 2014-06-14 07:59:22 <grunz_> gmaxwell: looks fine in debug.log
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394 2014-06-14 08:00:07 <grunz_> I donât understand what is wrong
395 2014-06-14 08:00:23 <grunz_> I should probaly run some vm with linux (Lubuntu or something)
396 2014-06-14 08:01:01 <dsnrk> no hold on, for some reason I'm not able to connect to that either.
397 2014-06-14 08:01:11 <grunz_> dsnrk: ok
398 2014-06-14 08:01:31 <dsnrk> I'm an idiot
399 2014-06-14 08:01:37 <dsnrk> bitcoind -testnet -connect=188.226.199.217:18333
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401 2014-06-14 08:01:49 <dsnrk> ^ I had the wrong port number, 18333 is for p2p, 18332 is for RPC
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403 2014-06-14 08:02:16 <grunz_> ahh
404 2014-06-14 08:02:16 <grunz_> ok
405 2014-06-14 08:02:25 <grunz_> I was just able to connect to this one
406 2014-06-14 08:02:25 <grunz_> https://tpfaucet.appspot.com/
407 2014-06-14 08:02:54 <dsnrk> yep, that'll work too. sorry about that. forgot what I was doing for a moment.
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410 2014-06-14 08:03:09 <grunz_> yeap, no I connected to you
411 2014-06-14 08:03:21 <grunz_> but again, should I have 1block/second speed?
412 2014-06-14 08:03:29 <grunz_> I thought itâs way faster in testnet
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414 2014-06-14 08:03:52 <dsnrk> could be you're bottlenecking somewhere else
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416 2014-06-14 08:04:14 <grunz_> yeah, I gotta check my router
417 2014-06-14 08:04:27 <grunz_> or try to do it on other machine
418 2014-06-14 08:04:35 <grunz_> and see how it works there
419 2014-06-14 08:04:46 <grunz_> to identify the problem
420 2014-06-14 08:04:56 <dsnrk> some parts of the sync will be very slow, there's some big blocks on testnet3.
421 2014-06-14 08:05:19 <grunz_> Iâm on 85187
422 2014-06-14 08:05:28 <grunz_> itâs been synching for a few days
423 2014-06-14 08:05:54 <dsnrk> mmm, something sounds wrong there. you should be able to get testnet3 up in a few hours.
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425 2014-06-14 08:06:18 <grunz_> dsnrk: definitely agree
426 2014-06-14 08:06:55 <grunz_> dsnrk: alright, I will go to sleepâ¦will check it tomorrow
427 2014-06-14 08:07:06 <dsnrk> o/
428 2014-06-14 08:07:13 <grunz_> dsnrk: thanks!
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430 2014-06-14 08:08:55 <grunz_> dsnrk: my ram usage is totally full, maybe thatâs why
431 2014-06-14 08:09:17 <dsnrk> if you're swapping that'll really slow things down
432 2014-06-14 08:10:12 <grunz_> just cleaned up 4 gb of ram
433 2014-06-14 08:10:15 <grunz_> still slow :-(
434 2014-06-14 08:10:41 <grunz_> bitcoind only takes 60Mb
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436 2014-06-14 08:11:13 <dsnrk> don't know. I can't explain it
437 2014-06-14 08:11:37 <grunz_> should it take more?
438 2014-06-14 08:12:09 <grunz_> uses 20 threads. Iâm on Mac
439 2014-06-14 08:12:55 <grunz_> server=1
440 2014-06-14 08:12:55 <grunz_> txindex=1
441 2014-06-14 08:13:02 <grunz_> in bitcoin.conf
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443 2014-06-14 08:15:06 <grunz_> removed txindex=1 and now the speed impoved drastically. Itâs like 30-40 blocks/ per second
444 2014-06-14 08:17:11 <grunz_> I copy/pasted bitcoin.conf from insight-api github repo from bitpay company
445 2014-06-14 08:18:01 <grunz_> interesting, does -txindex Maintain a full transaction index (default: 0) should really change performance that much
446 2014-06-14 08:18:20 <sipa> i wouldn't expect such a difference
447 2014-06-14 08:18:26 <sipa> but txindex isn't optimized for performance at all
448 2014-06-14 08:18:38 <grunz_> will it work with default value txindex=0 (the insight-api), I gotta check that
449 2014-06-14 08:18:48 <sipa> no clue what insight api is
450 2014-06-14 08:19:14 <sipa> if it needs to be able to look up arbitrary historical transactions, you need txindex
451 2014-06-14 08:19:16 <grunz_> https://github.com/bitpay/insight-api
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453 2014-06-14 08:20:20 <sipa> the documentation says it needs txindex
454 2014-06-14 08:20:35 <grunz_> thatâs what I said
455 2014-06-14 08:20:44 <grunz_> actually, I set it back again to 1
456 2014-06-14 08:20:52 <grunz_> and still have great performance
457 2014-06-14 08:21:01 <grunz_> I have no idea why it was that slow before
458 2014-06-14 08:21:07 <grunz_> I think I had to reindex it
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460 2014-06-14 08:21:12 <grunz_> and it fixed the problem
461 2014-06-14 08:21:18 <sipa> unlikely
462 2014-06-14 08:22:13 <grunz_> When I changed txindex to 0 in first time, bitcoind told me that I have to reindex
463 2014-06-14 08:22:22 <grunz_> so I did, and started working faster
464 2014-06-14 08:22:33 <grunz_> then I changed to 1 again to see if it is txindex
465 2014-06-14 08:22:49 <grunz_> it asked me again to reindex and I was still able to run in good speed
466 2014-06-14 08:23:02 <grunz_> so probably something was wrong in index
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468 2014-06-14 08:23:34 <grunz_> thank you guys anyways
469 2014-06-14 08:23:46 <grunz_> Now I can sleep better :-)
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534 2014-06-14 09:47:17 <dsnrk> is there any reason for my node to be printing UpdateTip lines for the same block over and over? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=u9zG2pJe
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537 2014-06-14 09:50:20 <gmaxwell> Thats bad.
538 2014-06-14 09:50:28 <gmaxwell> Any idea how you got it in that state?
539 2014-06-14 09:50:30 <dsnrk> around block height 305722 it also seems to do a reorg (rewind then back forward) http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=t9ByDLbF
540 2014-06-14 09:51:28 <gmaxwell> you're stuck at 305713?
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542 2014-06-14 09:52:05 <dsnrk> second pastebin has context for the first.
543 2014-06-14 09:53:13 <gmaxwell> might just be some concurrency bug in the logging.
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545 2014-06-14 09:54:32 <dsnrk> it's a recent build from master at 11ef78f1150f6b10a97f4f4e9b508308ac7581d9. would a concurrency bug explain the false reorg?
546 2014-06-14 09:54:48 <dsnrk> (I wish I had turned the timestamps on for this)
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643 2014-06-14 11:25:21 <skinnkavaj> So anyone here can just go to Jeffrey Smith at Cex.io with a gun and 51% attack bitcoin since he is pubclicly known.
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650 2014-06-14 11:31:52 <belcher> skinnkavaj yeah the government might do that one day
651 2014-06-14 11:32:02 <belcher> and say "please block all tx to the following addresses"
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700 2014-06-14 12:27:33 <aschildbach_> Did v0.9.2 change any dependencies, compared to v0.9.1? I'm asking because of the Gitian build.
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765 2014-06-14 13:23:56 <aschildbach> wumpus: I need some help with Gitian.
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772 2014-06-14 13:26:52 <chichov> anyone knows what the average signature size is?
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774 2014-06-14 13:28:49 <gavinandresen> chichov: between 72 and 73 bytes if I remember correctly. But that is exactly the kind of thing I'm very good at getting wrong.
775 2014-06-14 13:29:16 <gavinandresen> wumpus: I'm gitian building 0.9.2 now.
776 2014-06-14 13:29:19 <chichov> gavinandresen: I've calculated that the maximum is 73 bytes + 1 byte datapush
777 2014-06-14 13:29:34 <gavinandresen> chichov: that sounds right.
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779 2014-06-14 13:29:45 <chichov> however, I'm looking for the average signature size
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783 2014-06-14 13:31:34 <chichov> it always fluctuates, the coordinates are encoded without starting zeros
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786 2014-06-14 13:36:45 <aschildbach> Who can help with gitian? I'm getting some errors when building the deps.
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788 2014-06-14 13:38:34 <chichov> also wondering where the numbers for the transaction dust calculations come from. 34 bytes TxOut? More like 35 (scriptPubkey) + 8 (nValue) + VarInt. 148 bytes for TxIn? More like 32 (hash) + 4 (index) + VarInt + 74 (signature) + 4 in case of a P2PK
789 2014-06-14 13:39:49 <chichov> at least the output is calculated from the raw transaction, but the constant 148 bytes are puzzling
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791 2014-06-14 13:41:01 <mtgox555> I tried to spend a 2 of 2 p2sh address but it says complete: false. I basicly combined two public keys, made a transaction and used signrawtransaction <tx> at machine one and then signrawtransaction <output from first sign> but it says that it is not complete. Anything obvious i might have done wrong?
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795 2014-06-14 13:44:34 <chichov> mtgox555: try decoding the raw transaction with "decoderawtransaction <hexString>" and see if somewhere the scriptSig fields are empty and if only one input is used, if 2 signatures are supplied
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801 2014-06-14 13:50:36 <mtgox555> It seems that there is only one signature in the scriptsig field. Now to find out why.
802 2014-06-14 13:51:35 <chichov> missing private key, most likely
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805 2014-06-14 13:52:12 <chichov> if you know both private keys, you can supply them as a parameter in signrawtransaction
806 2014-06-14 13:53:00 <mtgox555> I only have one private key per computer
807 2014-06-14 13:54:12 <chichov> you need to access both keys
808 2014-06-14 13:54:29 <chichov> you can take the partly signed transaction and sign it with the second key on the other computer
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810 2014-06-14 13:54:58 <mtgox555> Yes of course. But my brother has the other key and i asked him to sign it. I guess i will have to go do it myself :)
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836 2014-06-14 14:34:14 <gavinandresen> wumpus: 0.9.2 gitian sigs pushed
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1009 2014-06-14 18:10:23 <davec> anyone familiar with getblocktemplate here? I noticed that the depends list often contains a reference to the same txindex multiple times when the same tx has multiple inupts which reference the same tx
1010 2014-06-14 18:10:29 <davec> seems odd
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1012 2014-06-14 18:11:14 <davec> http://zer0byte.com/zeropastebin/?8b555131efb8366e#VLZu1y25MKX98dkOc9i9WQl3Zsn1LLrXPcnEWBOOcP8=
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1015 2014-06-14 18:11:55 <davec> notice it has 491, 492, and 493 multiple times.
1016 2014-06-14 18:13:06 <davec> smells like a bug to me
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1019 2014-06-14 18:15:18 <davec> I'm off for a while, but will check when back. I'll file an issue for it if folks agree
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1077 2014-06-14 19:13:10 <grunz> I found a problem why my sync was soo damn slow on Mac. Avast file shield. Just added exception there and boom!
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1088 2014-06-14 19:22:57 <michagogo> 18:48:52 <Jouke> Because the RPC uses a json array, with the addresses as keys. So a sendmany to {"address1":1,"address1:2} won't work.
1089 2014-06-14 19:23:30 <michagogo> Jouke: an array is just a ["list", "of", "things"]
1090 2014-06-14 19:23:53 <michagogo> Not key-value
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1093 2014-06-14 19:24:32 <michagogo> I think of those as hashes, thanks to ruby, but I think json calls them Objects or something
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1188 2014-06-14 20:52:46 <midnightmagic> gmaxwell: I checked again today and discovered that the listunspent total now matches up with the getinfo balance. :-( sorry man I guess I missed it. I didn't think it would correct itself like that.
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1267 2014-06-14 22:17:47 <G_Qu> hi there. i'm looking for resources that demonstrate/give examples of how to write the cpp OP codes in script for Apple terminal. can anyone help?
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1269 2014-06-14 22:19:54 <amiller> what do you mean by "the cpp OP codes", like Bitcoin script?
1270 2014-06-14 22:20:08 <amiller> what are you trying to do G_Qu ?
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1282 2014-06-14 22:32:00 <G_Qu> amiller: yes the Bitcoin script. I want to be able to write transactions to be able to develop my own app.
1283 2014-06-14 22:32:43 <poutine> G_Qu, https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Script https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-guide#standard-transactions https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/script.cpp#L299-L971 - All this assumes you understand what a stack is, how txout scripts (scriptPubKey) and txin scripts (scriptSig) interact. Assembly knowledge is also useful
1284 2014-06-14 22:33:11 <G_Qu> thanks poutine
1285 2014-06-14 22:33:18 <amiller> apple script seems like a really strange choice, maybe you want to use an existing library like python-bitcointools for this and call that from apple script
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1287 2014-06-14 22:34:32 <poutine> also relevant bitcoind commands, listunspent, signrawtransaction, decoderawtransaction, sendrawtransaction (on testnet)
1288 2014-06-14 22:34:49 <G_Qu> ok amiller I will try that
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1291 2014-06-14 22:35:38 <G_Qu> thanks poutine
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1297 2014-06-14 22:47:03 <G_Qu> what I'm doing right now poutine is understand assembly poutine
1298 2014-06-14 22:47:21 <G_Qu> *try to understand
1299 2014-06-14 22:47:44 <kazcw> G_Qu: assembly language? that is completely unrelated
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1301 2014-06-14 22:48:20 <G_Qu> kazcw: I assumed that what poutine meant was how to assemble stacks and commands
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1303 2014-06-14 22:48:36 <poutine> I was saying knowledge of it is helpful, understanding how instructions work. Not that you need to learn assembly if you don't already know it
1304 2014-06-14 22:48:37 <kazcw> oops, didn't see that. carry on then :)
1305 2014-06-14 22:49:42 <G_Qu> I understand what the instructions of the OP codes mean, but putting them together is different poutine
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1312 2014-06-14 22:53:09 <G_Qu> where do I get the transactions to practice with for testnet?
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1314 2014-06-14 22:55:21 <cypherpunk00> Is there anyone around here who might be able to help me use multisig?
1315 2014-06-14 22:55:52 <shesek> cypherpunk00, it'll be easier to help if you ask a question
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1317 2014-06-14 22:56:19 <cypherpunk00> I'm not entirely sure what questions to ask.
1318 2014-06-14 22:57:13 <cypherpunk00> I'm trying to use bitcoind to do a simple 2of2 like in this example: https://gist.github.com/gavinandresen/3966071
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1320 2014-06-14 22:58:07 <cypherpunk00> but when I try to use 'sendtransaction' it always gives me a vague error
1321 2014-06-14 22:58:31 <cypherpunk00> shesek ^
1322 2014-06-14 22:58:43 <kadoban> cypherpunk00: That description is pretty outdated I believe. You can do it much easier now, without createraw and such
1323 2014-06-14 22:58:44 <poutine> you don't think that vague error was relevant enough to disclose as part of your question?
1324 2014-06-14 22:59:19 <cypherpunk00> "error: {"code":-22,"message":"TX rejected"}"
1325 2014-06-14 22:59:35 <poutine> your debug.log likely has a reason why, but I'd listen to kadoban
1326 2014-06-14 23:00:04 <cypherpunk00> kadoban, do you know where I can find updated docs on how to do this?
1327 2014-06-14 23:00:35 <kadoban> cypherpunk00: I wrote one for a project before, let me see if I can find it. It was for 2 of 2, that's what you said you were doing, right?
1328 2014-06-14 23:00:49 <cypherpunk00> Yes indeed
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1330 2014-06-14 23:01:36 <G_Qu> kadoban: in testnet, when I want to "createrawtransaction" where do I pull the txid from?
1331 2014-06-14 23:02:36 <michagogo> G_Qu: well, you figure out which transaction outputs you want to spend
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1333 2014-06-14 23:02:48 <michagogo> listunspent may be helpful for that.
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1335 2014-06-14 23:03:23 <G_Qu> michagogo: doesn't that only apply to my own account?
1336 2014-06-14 23:03:31 <G_Qu> doing that just shows my own balance
1337 2014-06-14 23:03:47 <kadoban> cypherpunk00: Hmmm...the guy I wrote it for seems to have taken it down...let me copy and paste just the relevent text somewhere just in case
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1339 2014-06-14 23:04:20 <cypherpunk00> kadoban, thanks.
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1349 2014-06-14 23:14:46 <G_Qu> i keep getting a parse error
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1357 2014-06-14 23:26:12 <cypherpunk00> okay, so does anyone else have any links to up to date info on multisig using bitcoind?
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1359 2014-06-14 23:26:46 <kadoban> cypherpunk00: https://www.emptypath.com/2of2.pdf in case anyone else was curious what I responded with...it needs rewriting though since it was part of a bigger doc so it's a bit crap at the moment
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1362 2014-06-14 23:38:05 <mkarrer> cypherpunk00: I documented a while ago my first attempts for 2of2 MS with bitcoin qt console for my p2p exchange project. maybe it helps you: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o4Cwh709Vw_MLKuP8Dz6u7Qk_dmA5WJb0HUsvq1IBas/ , https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YhuIwjCl6AABfspS5VehQiDosxuvdtDjyVOvQkS4Eag/
1363 2014-06-14 23:41:37 <mkarrer> the context how it was used is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v-WrmNO9JZnphE2lSYc0iiVPv3LVRMaHMcqw7PAOnCw/edit#heading=h.2xvyi1qh09gw
1364 2014-06-14 23:42:09 <kadoban> mkarrer: That last one doesn't seem to be shared
1365 2014-06-14 23:42:10 <mkarrer> but thats the old version of the concept. the actual version is that: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d3EiWZdaM89-P6MVhS53unXv2-pDpSFsN3W4kCGXKgY/edit
1366 2014-06-14 23:42:46 <mkarrer> just changed it, should be accessible now
1367 2014-06-14 23:42:58 <kadoban> worked
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1369 2014-06-14 23:43:28 <mkarrer> but for MS the first 2 docs are relevant, the other just for info if u are interested in the context...
1370 2014-06-14 23:45:02 <kadoban> Ah yeah yours is more complicated that mine. My scenario was pretty simple, basically using 2of2 for split storage
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1372 2014-06-14 23:46:05 <mkarrer> ah ok.... i needed it for deposit from 2 traders. http://multisig.info/ might be interesting for you
1373 2014-06-14 23:46:41 <mkarrer> or that http://bitcoinmagazine.com/11113/pybitcointools-multisig-tutorial/
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1375 2014-06-14 23:50:02 <G_Qu> can anyone help with this? https://gist.githubusercontent.com/gavinandresen/3966071/raw/ae5b99e0b9ba58e2e837aa11c6602571c5f82258/TwoOfThree.sh
1376 2014-06-14 23:57:18 <amiller> G_Qu, you're asking really poorly formatted questions that are unlikely to get much help
1377 2014-06-14 23:57:33 <amiller> G_Qu, you need to be more specific and give more detail than "i get a parse error" and "help with this:"
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