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  12 2014-07-03 00:14:01 <skinnkavaj> Faith in bitcoin restored with Lighthouse, and we burned down the central Bitcoin Foundation
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  18 2014-07-03 00:25:35 <pedro> I have BTC and DogeCoin to sell. I would prefer to receive payment via Paypal/Neteller Price: Preev.com (640$ Right now ) Escrow is welcome pedromarenco@outlook.com
  19 2014-07-03 00:26:06 <non2> lol, wrong chan !
  20 2014-07-03 00:26:19 <pedro> uppps sorry!!
  21 2014-07-03 00:26:26 <non2> !
  22 2014-07-03 00:26:40 <non2> #bitcoin-otc ;)
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  45 2014-07-03 00:55:01 <Forex> skinnkavaj: what is lighthouse?
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  48 2014-07-03 00:57:42 <non2> Forex, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29n8o0/100000_bounty_winner_announcement/
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  54 2014-07-03 01:01:04 <SatoshiNakamotoS> aloo
  55 2014-07-03 01:02:05 <gwillen> SatoshiNakamotoS: change your nick, please.
  56 2014-07-03 01:02:10 <SatoshiNakamotoS> I would like to know one thing.. well i've fork a coin code and change some parameters like the block time.. for 30m.. anyway its mining 1 block per sec o.O how can be this possible ?
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  59 2014-07-03 01:02:39 <done> ok
  60 2014-07-03 01:02:41 <gwillen> This channel is for discussing the development of the bitcoin client; try ##altcoin-dev?
  61 2014-07-03 01:02:55 <gwillen> You have probably made an error, but I don't know what it is.
  62 2014-07-03 01:03:07 <done> gwillen i know, but nobody answered me whole day.. its just a doubt
  63 2014-07-03 01:03:10 <gwillen> It's easy to screw up the constants. The people over there would no better.
  64 2014-07-03 01:03:11 <gwillen> know*
  65 2014-07-03 01:03:14 <done> and to know if its normal
  66 2014-07-03 01:03:15 <done> or its a mistake..
  67 2014-07-03 01:04:04 <done> so launch an network 1h ago and there are already 3000 blocks its buggedright ?
  68 2014-07-03 01:04:24 <gwillen> Probably? Like I said, this channel is for bitcoin client development. Nobody here does altcoins.
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  70 2014-07-03 01:04:44 <done> me neither
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  72 2014-07-03 01:04:55 <done> Im just trying to know more about it.
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  75 2014-07-03 01:05:49 <gwillen> Well, it should recompute the difficulty every 2016 blocks if you didn't change that.
  76 2014-07-03 01:05:59 <gwillen> So it's normal for the first 2016 blocks to be crazy fast, I believe.
  77 2014-07-03 01:06:08 <gwillen> After that it should be whatever you've set it to, or you've done something wrong.
  78 2014-07-03 01:06:23 <done> ah. understood
  79 2014-07-03 01:06:39 <done> anywy doesnt matter.. my main objective was done.. :D
  80 2014-07-03 01:06:50 <gwillen> To compile the code and see what happens? :-)
  81 2014-07-03 01:07:04 <done> just wanted to know if this was normal or I was made shit..
  82 2014-07-03 01:07:22 <done> gwillen maybe looks a bit dumb but yes..
  83 2014-07-03 01:07:29 <done> I was 0 at ubuntu
  84 2014-07-03 01:07:33 <done> in 2 weeks i learned a lot
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  86 2014-07-03 01:07:46 <done> just compiling a coin..
  87 2014-07-03 01:07:55 <gwillen> nah, getting it to compile is a worthy goal :-)
  88 2014-07-03 01:08:06 <done> I sware to all of you that i've learned a lot.
  89 2014-07-03 01:08:10 <gwillen> you have to start somewhere :-)
  90 2014-07-03 01:08:15 <done> It was to me..
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  92 2014-07-03 01:08:30 <done> with a lot of barriers and bugs on the middle.
  93 2014-07-03 01:08:34 * gwillen nods
  94 2014-07-03 01:08:52 <done> But everything was one.
  95 2014-07-03 01:08:55 <done> done
  96 2014-07-03 01:09:07 <Forex> non2 ok its a platform for croedfunding?
  97 2014-07-03 01:09:08 <done> well, thanks a lot then..
  98 2014-07-03 01:09:16 <Forex> crowdfunding?
  99 2014-07-03 01:09:25 <done> have a good night guys.
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 104 2014-07-03 01:22:36 <done> gwillen
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 106 2014-07-03 01:22:56 <done> I've checked the bitcoin blockchain and the first 1000 blocks took days..
 107 2014-07-03 01:23:19 <done> why does mine already goes pn 4000 o.O
 108 2014-07-03 01:23:28 <gwillen> Hmm, you've really probably made an error then
 109 2014-07-03 01:23:32 <gwillen> especially if you're mining with a CPU only
 110 2014-07-03 01:23:52 <done> o.o
 111 2014-07-03 01:24:02 <done> sounds strange.
 112 2014-07-03 01:24:31 <done> i had follow all steps.
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 115 2014-07-03 01:25:17 <done> static const int64 nTargetTimespan = 7 * 24 * 60 * 60; //1 semana static const int64 nTargetSpacing = 10 * 60; // 10 minutos static const int64 nInterval = nTargetTimespan / nTargetSpacing; //
 116 2014-07-03 01:25:40 <done> that's on my main.cpp
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 120 2014-07-03 01:27:40 <Forex> :P
 121 2014-07-03 01:27:45 <Forex> hi skinnkavaj
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 123 2014-07-03 01:31:42 <Luke-Jr> done: altcoins are off-topic here.
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 127 2014-07-03 01:35:41 <Forex> Luke-Jr: what is this new btc platform?
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 129 2014-07-03 01:35:53 <Forex> how it can decide how much to pay u?
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 142 2014-07-03 01:54:13 <Luke-Jr> dhill: ?
 143 2014-07-03 01:54:26 <dhill> found that pesky bug.  https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/pull/621
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 206 2014-07-03 03:01:11 <Boooooost> hello
 207 2014-07-03 03:01:19 <Boooooost> there is any file replacing chainparams.cpp
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 209 2014-07-03 03:01:31 <Boooooost> there are many coin's sources without chainparams file.
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 212 2014-07-03 03:03:44 <Boooooost> gwillen ?
 213 2014-07-03 03:03:55 <Boooooost> There is a new file replacing that one ?
 214 2014-07-03 03:04:44 <justanotheruser> Boooooost: altcoin-dev talk belongs in ##altcoin-dev
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 231 2014-07-03 03:24:39 <coinheavy> `Error: Invalid -rpcallowip subnet specification: 10.*.*.*`  — are only specific IP addresess enumerable? the wiki says that * can be used as a wildcard but I have tried many permutations (e.g. 10.0.0.*), all of which throw this error.
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 235 2014-07-03 03:38:03 <warren> We implemented a generic payment processor with a bitcoind backend.  https://github.com/slickage/baron  It is meant to be used by other web applications with an API key to create arbitrary invoices.  The user is then sent to the invoice to pay.  The views update with confirmations and shows reorgs or double-spends.  It then can send a notification back to the application to inform it of a successful payment, or a double-spend, etc.
 236 2014-07-03 03:38:37 <warren> http://demo.baronpay.org/  You can see a live demo here of invoice JSON submitted to create an invoice.
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 238 2014-07-03 03:39:30 <warren> If you're interested to help test or perhaps integrate with some other software please join us in #baronpay.
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 271 2014-07-03 04:15:44 <anton000> any motization to add an opcode to obtain blockchain details?
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 273 2014-07-03 04:16:49 <anton000> ie. OP_BLOCKHEIGHT ?
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 279 2014-07-03 04:20:57 <anton000> so we can do soemthing like a '800000 OP_BLOCKHEIGHT OP_GREATERTHAN '
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 506 2014-07-03 09:11:48 <sipa> coinheavy: this was changed very recently
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 510 2014-07-03 09:13:30 <sipa> Ademan: it relies on bitcoinj and is quite extensive; it's not included in the bitcoin source tree
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 523 2014-07-03 09:30:52 <UbuntuDoubts> Hi all
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 528 2014-07-03 09:40:32 <UbuntuDoubts> static const int64 nTargetTimespan = 7 * 24 * 60 * 60; //1 semana static const int64 nTargetSpacing = 10 * 60; // 10 minutos static const int64 nInterval = nTargetTimespan / nTargetSpacing; // 4 blocks  static const int64 nAveragingInterval = nInterval * 1; // 80 blocks static const int64 nAveragingTargetTimespan = nAveragingInterval * nTargetSpacing; // 40 minutes  static const int64 nMaxAdjustDown = 20; // 20% adjustment
 529 2014-07-03 09:40:59 <UbuntuDoubts> Why i'm getting
 530 2014-07-03 09:41:05 <UbuntuDoubts> blocks every secs?
 531 2014-07-03 09:41:06 <UbuntuDoubts> o.O
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 533 2014-07-03 09:42:06 <wumpus> initial sync?
 534 2014-07-03 09:42:52 <UbuntuDoubts> wumpus , waht you mean ?
 535 2014-07-03 09:43:05 <UbuntuDoubts> I had ''fork'' and this is a testcoin.. suposily its new blocks..
 536 2014-07-03 09:43:08 <wumpus> I mean, during the initial sync you receive much more than one block per 10 minutes
 537 2014-07-03 09:43:10 <UbuntuDoubts> i started from genesis one..
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 539 2014-07-03 09:43:20 <wumpus> oh I don't help with altcoins sorry
 540 2014-07-03 09:43:33 <UbuntuDoubts> wumpus isn't an altcoin..
 541 2014-07-03 09:43:47 <UbuntuDoubts> I'm just trying to understand better how this works.. im just bitcoin adicted..
 542 2014-07-03 09:43:58 <UbuntuDoubts> Bitcoin is the coin.. in my opminion
 543 2014-07-03 09:44:01 <UbuntuDoubts> opinionP
 544 2014-07-03 09:44:03 <UbuntuDoubts> *
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 548 2014-07-03 09:47:44 <UbuntuDoubts> wumpus, but can you tell me waht can cause that ?
 549 2014-07-03 09:48:02 <UbuntuDoubts> Since i commit changes on the block time ? o.O
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 611 2014-07-03 11:14:56 <AndersAA> What the heck is Jeremy Allaire talking about? I just spent six months researching Bitcoin and it's development process... And he's just plain wrong. My experience is that the dev process is open to everyone who wishes to participate.
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 614 2014-07-03 11:16:27 <AndersAA> (re: 'bitcoin’s core developers to “step up” and create a more open, inclusive and well-defined process for the protocol’s development.')
 615 2014-07-03 11:18:50 <null> well-defined probably means he wants to be able to throw money at something until something he wants will start happening
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 617 2014-07-03 11:21:13 <AndersAA> He's welcome to start throwing money at someone(or make others do so) but what he's describing is exactly what he's trying to avoid. Trying to force the community to commit to a specific direction is exactly what might lead to a hard fork. The current consensus model is slow - but it's what keeps hard forks from happening every other week.
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 621 2014-07-03 11:29:21 <wumpus> AndersAA: right, I didn't understand either, he's also not specific as to what protocol change he's actually pushing, that would make it easier to give a specific answer why it is welcomed/not welcomed
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 623 2014-07-03 11:31:18 <wumpus> I try to be inclusive towards people, but that doesn't mean that all ideas are good ideas and everything is immediately merged and accepted, we do have to be careful too
 624 2014-07-03 11:32:24 <wumpus> but whatever he wants to push it's some blockchain-forking change... maybe we should ask
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 630 2014-07-03 11:35:35 <wumpus> I'd like to think he's just grossly misquoted by coindesk, it wouldn't be the first time
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 634 2014-07-03 11:43:04 <AndersAA> Yeah, hearn didn't like their interpretation much either. Maybe he just doesn't get that there's an obvious reason why the process isn't "clearly defined" - consensus on that'll be even harder to agree on than a specific piece of code. One could easily change the direction of the project by employing four full time devs with a good understanding of the project and good rhetorical skills. Politics seems to be just as important
 635 2014-07-03 11:43:04 <AndersAA> as code atm.
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 647 2014-07-03 11:56:48 <wumpus> I doubt more politics is what we need
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 681 2014-07-03 12:32:01 <UbuntuDoubts> hi all
 682 2014-07-03 12:32:05 <UbuntuDoubts> what file contains nodes ip's ?
 683 2014-07-03 12:32:31 <wumpus> peers.dat
 684 2014-07-03 12:33:45 <UbuntuDoubts> ty
 685 2014-07-03 12:34:25 <UbuntuDoubts> and how i edit .dat?
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 687 2014-07-03 12:35:27 <sipa> it's a custom format, you probably don't want to
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 689 2014-07-03 12:35:40 <sipa> if you don't like the contents, just delete it
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 691 2014-07-03 12:35:55 <UbuntuDoubts> sipa , trying connection 208.73.211.166:5555 lastseen=106.0hrs
 692 2014-07-03 12:36:04 <UbuntuDoubts> I just want to change that ip adress to my own node..
 693 2014-07-03 12:36:13 <UbuntuDoubts> And i cant find that ip in any file :/
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 695 2014-07-03 12:37:41 <sipa> as i said, it's a very custom format; see the IMPLEMENT_SERIALIZE in addrman.h
 696 2014-07-03 12:37:47 <sipa> you won't be able to edit it
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 698 2014-07-03 12:38:06 <sipa> use -connect=IP if you just want to connect to a particular ip
 699 2014-07-03 12:38:14 <sipa> and bypass the whole peer selection logic
 700 2014-07-03 12:39:14 <UbuntuDoubts> ok, i will get into that :) thanks a lot once again for your time and patience.. you already give me activity for the next hours ;)
 701 2014-07-03 12:39:19 <UbuntuDoubts> Really thanks sipa!
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 767 2014-07-03 14:24:18 <gavinandresen> cfields: I’m getting ./configure: line 2737: syntax error near unexpected token `disable-shared'    … trying to configure master on OSX this morning
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 769 2014-07-03 14:25:17 <drizztbsd> --disable-shared
 770 2014-07-03 14:26:08 <gavinandresen> drizztbsd: hmm?  I’m running ./configure --disable-hardening --disable-silent-rules CXXFLAGS="=g3 -O0 -DDEBUG_LOCKORDER"
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 845 2014-07-03 15:51:46 <skinnkavaj> Proof of idle.. Hmm
 846 2014-07-03 15:51:47 <skinnkavaj> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29pzfk/proof_of_idle_an_optimal_bitcoin_mining_strategy/
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 850 2014-07-03 15:55:13 <gavinandresen> cfields: ‘brew install libtool’ then autogen.sh then re-configure seems to have fixed the problem.
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 854 2014-07-03 15:56:56 <cfields> gavinandresen: yea, libtool is a new dep as of the secp prep merge. I'm not sure we can avoid that initial hump
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 856 2014-07-03 15:57:34 <gavinandresen> cfields: new dependencies are OK, but we need a better way of communicating them…
 857 2014-07-03 15:57:44 <gavinandresen> I’m posting to bitcoin-development mailing list now.
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 859 2014-07-03 15:58:03 <jgarzik_> gavinandresen, to be safe I -always- run the following as the pre-make step,
 860 2014-07-03 15:58:04 <jgarzik_> ./autogen.sh && CXXFLAGS="-O2 -Wall -g" ./configure --with-incompatible-bdb
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 862 2014-07-03 15:58:22 <jgarzik_> that's the only way to guarantee regen of everything, always
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 866 2014-07-03 15:59:16 <cfields> well, this one's a pretty special case. Usually automake and friends know when they need to regen something. Problem here is that it doesn't know wtf libtool is until it's installed
 867 2014-07-03 15:59:43 <cfields> gavinandresen: thanks
 868 2014-07-03 16:00:03 <jgarzik_> cfields, The above practice has worked for 10+ years, and this most recent episode demonstrates why :)
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 870 2014-07-03 16:00:57 <jgarzik_> cfields, the automake-regenerates-itself and autoconf-regenerates-itself stuff doesn't always work.  it gets ever more complex when the Makefile tries to regen itself.
 871 2014-07-03 16:01:30 <cfields> gavinandresen: it may be possible to warn in configure if libtool isn't found, even without knowing what it is. that would at least give builders a sane message while transitioning
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 873 2014-07-03 16:01:33 <cfields> if you think it's worth it
 874 2014-07-03 16:02:04 <cfields> jgarzik_: agreed. depends on which butterflies flapped their wings that day.
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 877 2014-07-03 16:02:42 <jgarzik_> cfields, s/may//   easy to run the libtool check in configure.ac, then fail if necessary
 878 2014-07-03 16:03:19 <cfields> jgarzik_: the "may" was because that assumes that configure re-runs in the first place. See your comments above about that :)
 879 2014-07-03 16:03:52 <cfields> in fact, autoregen would have to run in order to update configure. and by then, the libtool check would've failed
 880 2014-07-03 16:03:58 <gavinandresen> cfields: I’m generally against making things more complicated just to make things a little easier in the short term
 881 2014-07-03 16:04:10 <gavinandresen> … way too much cruft accumulates that way....
 882 2014-07-03 16:04:30 <jgarzik_> Just tell everyone to run autogen.sh&&configure, and it will properly and promptly shit itself if deps are missing
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 884 2014-07-03 16:04:51 <gavinandresen> jgarzik_: … except in this case....
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 886 2014-07-03 16:05:28 <cfields> gavinandresen: osx (and only 10.7+ iirc) is the only place we build where libtool isn't likely to be there by default
 887 2014-07-03 16:05:44 <cfields> so it's a pretty small percentage of builders who will be affected
 888 2014-07-03 16:05:50 <gavinandresen> cfields: yup.
 889 2014-07-03 16:06:00 <gavinandresen> cfields: … so don’t bother.
 890 2014-07-03 16:06:11 <cfields> and for once, i did actually update the docs this time :)
 891 2014-07-03 16:06:14 <cfields> roger, agreed
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 896 2014-07-03 16:09:06 <Ademan> Yesterday I expressed interest in a "node level" set of tests, which I understand exists and is built on top of bitcoinj... but either my google-fu is failing me or I'm failing myself... does anyone know what project that test suite is a part of? bitcoinj has its own unit tests, but what I'm referring to would actually perform tests by connecting as a peer to the node-to-be-tested
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 899 2014-07-03 16:12:34 <davec_> it is part of bitcoinj on a branch
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 902 2014-07-03 16:14:13 <davec_> well at least it was last time I looked -> blocktester branch
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 905 2014-07-03 16:16:24 <davec_> looks like it's on master now -- https://code.google.com/p/bitcoinj/source/browse/core/src/test/java/com/google/bitcoin/core/FullBlockTestGenerator.java
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 908 2014-07-03 16:17:47 <davec_> and the acutal tool is https://code.google.com/p/bitcoinj/source/browse/core/src/test/java/com/google/bitcoin/core/BitcoindComparisonTool.java
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 911 2014-07-03 16:18:06 <davec_> but the fullblcoktestgenerator is what creates the regression test used by th latter
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 915 2014-07-03 16:20:10 <Ademan> davout: thanks a lot
 916 2014-07-03 16:20:37 <davout> Ademan: for what?
 917 2014-07-03 16:20:52 <Ademan> davout: sorry, bad tab-completion
 918 2014-07-03 16:20:55 <Ademan> davec_: thanks a lot
 919 2014-07-03 16:21:14 <Ademan> wow, you joined right before I typed that hah
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1005 2014-07-03 17:34:09 <jcorgan> just read hearn's guest oped on decentralization of mining
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1007 2014-07-03 17:34:33 <jcorgan> mentioned obfuscating data on full nodes to prevent the "insert virus signature" problem
1008 2014-07-03 17:34:44 <jcorgan> using a "per machine key"
1009 2014-07-03 17:34:49 <skinnkavaj> jcorgan link?
1010 2014-07-03 17:34:51 <Apocalyptic> is it even a problem to begin with ?
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1012 2014-07-03 17:35:01 <jcorgan> https://bitcoinfoundation.org/2014/07/03/mining-decentralisation-the-low-hanging-fruit/
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1014 2014-07-03 17:35:39 <gmaxwell> Apocalyptic: yes, its a problem. Varrious windowas AV packages agressively corrupt bitcoin installs.
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1016 2014-07-03 17:35:58 <jcorgan> but gmaxwell had suggested a simple technique a while back to use txid as a an encryption key
1017 2014-07-03 17:36:15 <jcorgan> or something like that, don't recall specifics anymore
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1019 2014-07-03 17:37:06 <gmaxwell> jcorgan: I'd suggested the per-machine before realizing that using the txid as the key was superior. At the joe-user level its all the same in any case.
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1114 2014-07-03 19:14:03 <jgarzik_> AH HAH!  I found it.
1115 2014-07-03 19:14:10 <jgarzik_> Proof that boost is evil:  http://boingboing.net/2014/07/03/if-you-read-boing-boing-the-n.html
1116 2014-07-03 19:14:18 <jgarzik_> (look at the code screenshot)
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1122 2014-07-03 19:20:28 <owowo> jgarzik: damn, now you made me a target for the iNSAne password backup service by making me click on boingboing.net :(
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1127 2014-07-03 19:24:37 <gavinandresen> cfields: did you turn off pull-tester on jenkins?
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1129 2014-07-03 19:25:04 <cfields> gavinandresen: no, haven't messed with it at all
1130 2014-07-03 19:25:29 <gavinandresen> cfields: ok.  I think the whole snelserver rebooted recently....
1131 2014-07-03 19:25:36 <cfields> hard at work on an alternative though :)
1132 2014-07-03 19:25:37 <cfields> yikes
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1260 2014-07-03 21:15:00 <andytoshi> do i have to use getblocks to get an individual block?
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1265 2014-07-03 21:19:14 <andytoshi> seems like a race condition, why can't i separate getting block data from checking for reorgs?
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1306 2014-07-03 21:58:20 <kazcw> andytoshi: you can. getheaders, then if you'll get blocks extending your main chain or reorging from farther back, then getdata the block
1307 2014-07-03 21:58:23 <kazcw> (s)
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1316 2014-07-03 22:04:24 <andytoshi> thx kazcw, getdata is what i was looking for
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1336 2014-07-03 22:19:06 <spinza> hi devs, asked in #bitcoin but no answer: what is up with ubuntu ppa? still stick at 0.9.1.  how do we get it updated?
1337 2014-07-03 22:19:19 <spinza> *stuck
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1342 2014-07-03 22:22:36 <sipa> ;;later tell BlueMatt any time soon to upgrade the PPA to 0.9.2.1?
1343 2014-07-03 22:22:36 <gribble> The operation succeeded.
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1346 2014-07-03 22:24:32 <spinza> sounds like gribble did it :)
1347 2014-07-03 22:24:35 <spinza> thanks
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