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304 2014-07-18 07:32:17 <wumpus> hehe
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347 2014-07-18 08:49:50 * michagogo pokes his head in
348 2014-07-18 08:49:59 <michagogo> Greetings from Slovenia!
349 2014-07-18 08:51:36 <wumpus> greetings back from the Netherlands!
350 2014-07-18 08:55:37 <damethos> wumpus, give us some weed
351 2014-07-18 08:55:41 <damethos> :p
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356 2014-07-18 09:05:00 <michagogo> wumpus: yeah, but you live there :P
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368 2014-07-18 09:21:26 <wumpus> damethos: hah it's all weed, windmills and wooden shoes here right?
369 2014-07-18 09:22:25 <damethos> hehe exactly
370 2014-07-18 09:22:36 <damethos> and toulips
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485 2014-07-18 13:03:44 <jokoon> hello
486 2014-07-18 13:04:13 <jokoon> is it possible to use the existing bitcoins nodes to develop another protocol on top of it ?
487 2014-07-18 13:04:23 <jokoon> like for example host other types of data ?
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489 2014-07-18 13:11:15 <jgarzik> jokoon, no
490 2014-07-18 13:11:34 <jokoon> any other protocols that do that ?
491 2014-07-18 13:11:36 <jokoon> like dogecoin ?
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615 2014-07-18 16:20:12 <jcorgan> at the time AddBlockToIndex is called in AcceptBlockHeader, are all the block validation tests complete?
616 2014-07-18 16:20:28 <jcorgan> i know this is pre-reorg logic
617 2014-07-18 16:22:36 <sipa> no
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619 2014-07-18 16:22:51 <sipa> not the tests that require the utxo set
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621 2014-07-18 16:23:18 <sipa> but header connectivity, context-independent transaction tests and proof of work have
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623 2014-07-18 16:24:56 * jgarzik still wants to find a data[base|structure] that permits efficient viewing of the UTXO set, as it existed when $hash was the tip of the best chain.
624 2014-07-18 16:25:03 <jgarzik> for my own edification if nothing else.
625 2014-07-18 16:25:19 <jcorgan> thanks. i'm trying to locate the point of "greatest trust"; that is, where is that an incoming block has had every test applied and has passed
626 2014-07-18 16:25:20 <jgarzik> ie. given block $hash, return utxo set
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628 2014-07-18 16:27:41 <sipa> jgarzik: not hard... use a functional treemap (never overwriting entries, just building new versions that reuse nodes from the previous version if unchanged)
629 2014-07-18 16:28:01 <sipa> jgarzik: but it'll grow faster in memory usage than the blockchain itself
630 2014-07-18 16:28:04 <jgarzik> sipa, or more coarsely, a snapshotting filesystem
631 2014-07-18 16:28:19 <sipa> that's pretty much how snapshotting filesystems work, yes
632 2014-07-18 16:28:26 <sipa> at least zfs does
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638 2014-07-18 16:36:20 <jcorgan> orphan blocks get put into a map for later processing, and don't go through all the validation in AcceptBlock until they have a predecessor, correct?
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640 2014-07-18 16:37:39 <sipa> until they have _all_ predecessors, yes
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642 2014-07-18 16:37:51 <jcorgan> right
643 2014-07-18 16:37:51 <sipa> also, headersfirst removes the concept of orphan blocks :)
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870 2014-07-18 22:22:52 <ebfull> i'm doing listtransactions on a watch-only account, but it's only returning 'receive' transactions and not 'send' transactions
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882 2014-07-18 22:28:56 <Luke-Jr> ebfull: that would be expected from a watch-by-address type thing
883 2014-07-18 22:29:01 <Luke-Jr> ebfull: since addresses only receive
884 2014-07-18 22:29:12 * Luke-Jr wonders if that was fixed finally
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886 2014-07-18 22:30:32 <jrick> you can watch an outpoint and record the tx that spent it
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892 2014-07-18 22:37:13 <Luke-Jr> jrick: you can, but that's unrelated to the address, and shouldn't be done when the user just asks to watch an address
893 2014-07-18 22:38:02 <jrick> yeah, and it would probably produce wonky results anyways. what happens when they use a change address? now the "send" details would have different values than if that was your bitcoind hot wallet
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895 2014-07-18 22:39:13 * jrick doesn't like the send category in listtransactions anyways
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899 2014-07-18 22:39:49 <ebfull> lol alright here's my use case
900 2014-07-18 22:39:58 <ebfull> i used to be able to do this on sipa's original watchonly branch
901 2014-07-18 22:40:10 <ebfull> but i have an address that uses itself as a change address
902 2014-07-18 22:40:21 <ebfull> i need to see every transaction to and "from" (hurrrrrrrrrrrrr) the address
903 2014-07-18 22:40:47 <ebfull> how can i do this with the always-amazing json rpc
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905 2014-07-18 22:41:40 <Luke-Jr> ebfull: don't do that.
906 2014-07-18 22:41:53 <ebfull> (it's not up to me)
907 2014-07-18 22:41:58 <Luke-Jr> ebfull: it's quite intentional not to support things you're not supposed to do
908 2014-07-18 22:42:01 <ebfull> sorry i just need to code what i've been asked to
909 2014-07-18 22:42:09 <Luke-Jr> sorry, we don't have to help you
910 2014-07-18 22:42:13 <ebfull> it sucks that i have to stay on 0.8 sipa watchonly branch
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912 2014-07-18 22:42:55 <ebfull> it's ok if you don't want to help, i just followed "tell us what you're trying to do, not how you're trying to do it
913 2014-07-18 22:43:01 <ebfull> and got a real non-answer
914 2014-07-18 22:43:22 <Luke-Jr> when your use case no longer involves a "from address" or reusing an address (for change or otherwise), I'd be glad to help assist
915 2014-07-18 22:43:27 <ebfull> hehehe
916 2014-07-18 22:43:28 <ebfull> k
917 2014-07-18 22:43:32 <Luke-Jr> no, actually, you're still saying how you're trying to do it
918 2014-07-18 22:43:39 <Luke-Jr> what you're trying to do is more high-level than that
919 2014-07-18 22:44:04 <Luke-Jr> (it doesn't involve words like "address" or "change", for example)
920 2014-07-18 22:44:24 <ebfull> what if i'm trying to make an API that mimics https://blockchain.info/address/18fVX4W42EuM1cSftyt3aekfLecaPugRKx
921 2014-07-18 22:44:46 <ebfull> but for a smaller number of addresses (specifically, 1)
922 2014-07-18 22:44:55 <Luke-Jr> then I recommend leaving out the broken-by-design parts of the API
923 2014-07-18 22:45:11 <Luke-Jr> since nobody should ever use them
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983 2014-07-18 23:44:24 <jcorgan> there are signedness warnings in the leveldb code during compile, do we care?
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