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5 2014-08-24 00:01:43 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: I didnt say surprising
6 2014-08-24 00:02:06 <BlueMatt> relaying transactions with obviously dumb fees, double-spends avoiding fees, etc
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8 2014-08-24 00:02:18 <sipa> any other acks on 4683?
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10 2014-08-24 00:03:08 <BlueMatt> sipa: I'll queue it and hopefully get to it today
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20 2014-08-24 00:18:51 <michagogo> jgarzik: ping
21 2014-08-24 00:18:53 <michagogo> 317000?
22 2014-08-24 00:19:03 <michagogo> So that's a new file?
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24 2014-08-24 00:19:31 <jgarzik> michagogo, yes
25 2014-08-24 00:19:37 <michagogo> How come?
26 2014-08-24 00:19:48 <jgarzik> michagogo, Much time passed since beta
27 2014-08-24 00:20:02 <michagogo> Also, how much size difference are we talking about?
28 2014-08-24 00:20:22 <michagogo> (i.e. should I bother linearizing those last blocks, or just update the torrent?
29 2014-08-24 00:20:23 <michagogo> )
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31 2014-08-24 00:21:05 <michagogo> ;;blocks
32 2014-08-24 00:21:05 <gribble> 317193
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36 2014-08-24 00:23:57 <BlueMatt> https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD
37 2014-08-24 00:24:03 <BlueMatt> fucking --with-incompatible-bdb
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39 2014-08-24 00:25:05 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: no use 'cussin about it, we knew that they'd do that.
40 2014-08-24 00:25:10 <Luke-Jr> BlueMatt: I don't see anything at that link. Are they pushing it to end users?
41 2014-08-24 00:25:19 <BlueMatt> Luke-Jr: yes
42 2014-08-24 00:25:21 <gmaxwell> it's crappy, but there you have it.
43 2014-08-24 00:25:26 <Luke-Jr> sigh
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45 2014-08-24 00:25:50 <BlueMatt> are there any oses of note that dont have 5.1 yet?
46 2014-08-24 00:26:09 * Luke-Jr doesn't think Arch doing this warrants bumping it
47 2014-08-24 00:26:22 <BlueMatt> yep, ubuntu
48 2014-08-24 00:26:28 <Luke-Jr> BlueMatt: note if we bump it, we break downgradability too
49 2014-08-24 00:26:30 <BlueMatt> Luke-Jr: no, but its always been the intention to bump it when we can
50 2014-08-24 00:26:46 <BlueMatt> I'd bet arch is far from the only ones doing it
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53 2014-08-24 00:27:03 <Luke-Jr> ⦠no that there's really any excuse at all to be running an old version on Windows
54 2014-08-24 00:27:05 <Luke-Jr> not*
55 2014-08-24 00:27:11 <gmaxwell> I am really not very interested in updating it... due to downgradability, and 5.1 seeming to generally be a regression from 4.8. (it appears to crash much more readily on corrupted files, though 4.8 is no star in that respect either)
56 2014-08-24 00:27:17 <Luke-Jr> (which is frankly the only OS the bdb4.8 should matter for)
57 2014-08-24 00:27:38 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: we can't even stay current with bdb anymore due to license compatiblity.
58 2014-08-24 00:27:41 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: true, plus we hope to get rid of it "someday"
59 2014-08-24 00:27:57 <cfields> wow, codebase builds just fine against musl...
60 2014-08-24 00:28:02 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: yea, but most linuxes dont either, so we're safe there
61 2014-08-24 00:28:06 <cfields> hash anyone worked towards that? or does it actually "just work" ?
62 2014-08-24 00:28:15 <cfields> -h
63 2014-08-24 00:28:25 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: for the moment. But it also means oracle isn't maintaining any of these things anymore anyways.
64 2014-08-24 00:28:35 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: true
65 2014-08-24 00:29:53 <gmaxwell> I assume wallet-ng-format-import-tool will need to link 5.1 anyways for compatiblity with both, upgrading wouldn't be the end of the world, but as you note, there are supported systems that don't have it.. also not eager to make two non-downgradable wallet changes.
66 2014-08-24 00:29:57 <BlueMatt> but, if we had the option to upgrade (mostly ubuntu) then I would say yes
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68 2014-08-24 00:30:18 <BlueMatt> true
69 2014-08-24 00:30:30 <BlueMatt> but is there even anyone working on planing wallet-ng-format?
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71 2014-08-24 00:31:21 <sipa> i had a working version ages ago
72 2014-08-24 00:31:24 <gmaxwell> Not actively, sipa did some design a long time ago. The other issue we have with upgrading is that we really need wallet tests...
73 2014-08-24 00:31:29 <gmaxwell> oh more than design then. :P
74 2014-08-24 00:31:37 <sipa> it missed some error handling etc
75 2014-08-24 00:31:46 <sipa> and compaction
76 2014-08-24 00:32:58 <gmaxwell> Did it also end up forcing you to always have the full wallet in memory?
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78 2014-08-24 00:33:28 <sipa> i believe so, yes
79 2014-08-24 00:33:40 <sipa> but we're doing that already anyway at the application level
80 2014-08-24 00:34:32 <BlueMatt> yea, but a wallet rewrite shouldnt need to
81 2014-08-24 00:34:34 <sipa> cfields: i don't think anyone worked on that
82 2014-08-24 00:34:56 <cfields> hmm, neat
83 2014-08-24 00:35:13 <sipa> BlueMatt: i really just changed bdb for different (and trivial) append-only checksummed key-value system
84 2014-08-24 00:35:18 <cfields> it creates a completely static binary, no reliance on runtime glibc
85 2014-08-24 00:35:27 <cfields> so it's a definite contender for us in the future, imo
86 2014-08-24 00:36:01 <sipa> BlueMatt: changing what is actually stored in the wallet is a much more invasive change
87 2014-08-24 00:36:28 <jgarzik> michagogo, not much size difference
88 2014-08-24 00:36:36 <jgarzik> michagogo, I would just update the torrent
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90 2014-08-24 00:38:12 <gmaxwell> cfields: it still leaves the libstdc++ dependency, so whats the improvement? statically linking any kind of libc will break domainname resolution on some systems.
91 2014-08-24 00:39:34 <BlueMatt> sipa: I havent looked at wallet format in forever, what would actually need changed in there?
92 2014-08-24 00:39:42 <sipa> ?
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94 2014-08-24 00:41:04 <cfields> gmaxwell: from what i've read, libstdc++ can be safely linked statically (or libc++ looking forward). Works for my tests, at least. The dns resolution is a fair point, and i'm not qualified to argue that one.
95 2014-08-24 00:41:30 <Luke-Jr> BlueMatt: as long as you want address reuse, I think you *have* to keep the wallet in memory..
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97 2014-08-24 00:41:37 <Luke-Jr> of course, that could be dropped :p
98 2014-08-24 00:42:16 <gmaxwell> cfields: you're right on libstdc++. Name resolution isn't the only thing that potentially breaks w/ static libc though it's one of the most common things.
99 2014-08-24 00:42:37 <gmaxwell> I'd have to do more research on it myself to figure out how I feel about it... we're not very dependant on name resolution....
100 2014-08-24 00:42:55 <cfields> indeed
101 2014-08-24 00:43:18 <Diablo-D3> gmaxwell: did anything get committed to git that improves download performance yet?
102 2014-08-24 00:43:32 <BlueMatt> Luke-Jr: you might have to keep some parts of wallet around in memory, but that doesnt mean you have to keep everything around
103 2014-08-24 00:43:41 <gmaxwell> Diablo-D3: nope, because you've failed to test anything and report back. :(
104 2014-08-24 00:43:53 <gmaxwell> Diablo-D3: what are you doing, we're all waiting on you.
105 2014-08-24 00:44:05 <Diablo-D3> gmaxwell: lol
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108 2014-08-24 00:44:36 <gmaxwell> Diablo-D3: feel free to test https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4468 on top of git master and report how it goes... and if it fails be sure to keep the debug logs. :)
109 2014-08-24 00:45:19 <cfields> gmaxwell: anyway, i certainly wasn't arguing for considering it now. I was just impressed that it actually builds/runs without any patching.
110 2014-08-24 00:45:36 <Diablo-D3> gmaxwell: yeah I don't like running bitcoin git for some reason =/
111 2014-08-24 00:45:47 <gmaxwell> Diablo-D3: you can run multiple copies. :)
112 2014-08-24 00:46:36 <gmaxwell> failure to run bitcoin from git means that bitcoin release will be as bad as you feared bitcoin from git would be. I also agree that running on a serious mainnet wallet is a bad idea... but testnet or a second copy is safe.
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115 2014-08-24 00:47:07 <Diablo-D3> gmaxwell: yeah
116 2014-08-24 00:47:12 <Diablo-D3> gmaxwell: I used to run git
117 2014-08-24 00:47:18 <Diablo-D3> but then bitcoin started having actual value
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119 2014-08-24 00:50:03 <stacksmash> I use git with testnet, still using 0.8.6 for real money.
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121 2014-08-24 00:50:35 <Diablo-D3> yeah I should just try it out on testnet
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126 2014-08-24 00:55:27 <Diablo-D3> gmaxwell: btw, I ended up building another box to take over linux duties
127 2014-08-24 00:55:44 <Diablo-D3> one of those 20th anniversary haswell pentiums
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129 2014-08-24 00:56:14 <Diablo-D3> 16gb of ram, dual crucial m550 128gb caching dual raid1 seagate 2tb enterprise drives I already had laying around
130 2014-08-24 00:56:20 <Diablo-D3> its goddamned fast for such a tiny box
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132 2014-08-24 00:57:05 <Diablo-D3> idling with spindles off 23w, idling with spindles idle 31w, maximum power usage with gpu off 55w.
133 2014-08-24 00:57:21 <Diablo-D3> well, maximum Ive seen thus far
134 2014-08-24 00:57:28 <Diablo-D3> was rsyncing over the network when I did that
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136 2014-08-24 00:58:25 <SomeoneWeird> Diablo-D3: "i already had laying around"
137 2014-08-24 00:58:27 <SomeoneWeird> damn you :p
138 2014-08-24 00:59:09 <Diablo-D3> my last workstation was 2tb raid1
139 2014-08-24 00:59:36 <Diablo-D3> my new one is crucial m500 960gb raid1
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143 2014-08-24 01:02:46 <SomeoneWeird> Diablo-D3: that is a decently sized ssd :)
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145 2014-08-24 01:03:46 <Diablo-D3> I was building a totally silent box
146 2014-08-24 01:03:57 <Diablo-D3> the hard part was making the 7970 silent
147 2014-08-24 01:04:21 <Diablo-D3> turning up the fans on everything I can just _barely_ hear it
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149 2014-08-24 01:05:26 <Diablo-D3> 2x noctua 120m, 2x noctua 140mm, noctua nh-d14, and artic accelero xtreme iv 280x, all in a corsair obsidian 550d
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151 2014-08-24 01:06:32 <Luke-Jr> hm
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153 2014-08-24 01:06:43 <Diablo-D3> the noctua fans are all plugged in with the undervolt cables, and then the pwmable ones (nh-d14 has 120mm and 140m of its own, but cant be pwmed) at 15% speed, and the accelero's 3 fans at 15%, and the psu's fan halts at low enough wattage
154 2014-08-24 01:06:50 * Luke-Jr wonders what behaviour exactly BCCore manifests not having undo data for a reorg
155 2014-08-24 01:07:15 <stacksmash> Nice, I have Accelero fans on my cards but my one card with the stock blower fan is louder than all the others combined.
156 2014-08-24 01:07:23 <Diablo-D3> so thats 6 noctua fans, 3 gpu fans, and a psu fan
157 2014-08-24 01:07:28 <Diablo-D3> 10 fucking fans.
158 2014-08-24 01:07:40 <Diablo-D3> and its dead silent.
159 2014-08-24 01:07:56 <Diablo-D3> its more silent than any water cooling rig I've met
160 2014-08-24 01:08:07 <Diablo-D3> pumps are always too fucking loud
161 2014-08-24 01:09:22 <stacksmash> I think I had 15 fans in my old mining rig. It was definitely not silent.
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163 2014-08-24 01:09:45 <Diablo-D3> 2 120mm in the front, 1 140mm in the floor blowing right into the gpu, 1 140mm behind the nh-d14 for exhaust
164 2014-08-24 01:09:59 <Diablo-D3> and the 550d is a specially silenced case
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166 2014-08-24 01:10:44 <Diablo-D3> my new box is more conventional
167 2014-08-24 01:12:11 <stacksmash> At some point I'll convert my old equipment into a gaming rig or something. Right now it's doing nothing.
168 2014-08-24 01:12:13 <Diablo-D3> 53w tdp haswell pentium, 2 ssds, 2 hdds, fanless psu with extremely high efficiency at the 20-30w range (seasonic ss-400fl2, 400w, fanless, 80plus platinum, highest efficiency at 20-30w Ive seen of any psu)
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170 2014-08-24 01:12:53 <Diablo-D3> noctua nh-u9b (think of it as a baby nh-d14 without the split block, uses dual 92mm non-pwm fans, also with the undervolt cables)
171 2014-08-24 01:13:09 <Diablo-D3> and then I left the corsair 140mm fan in the front of the case moved dowwn infront of the harddrives
172 2014-08-24 01:13:14 <Diablo-D3> and its a corsair 350d
173 2014-08-24 01:13:20 <Diablo-D3> same series as the 550d, but not specially silenced
174 2014-08-24 01:13:24 * BlueMatt wonders if he's in ##hardware
175 2014-08-24 01:13:38 <Diablo-D3> BlueMatt: hardware fetishism is always on topic ;)
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180 2014-08-24 01:16:13 <stacksmash> My 5870 is still secured to my tower with zip ties.
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202 2014-08-24 02:13:43 <earlz> does bitcoin master support headers only now?
203 2014-08-24 02:13:53 <earlz> (ie, super fast blockchain downloads :) )
204 2014-08-24 02:15:30 <fanquake> earlz see https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4468
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207 2014-08-24 02:18:06 <earlz> so exciting :)
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209 2014-08-24 02:18:18 <SomeoneWeird> (so no, not yet)
210 2014-08-24 02:18:54 <earlz> I saw some variables referencing headersOnly recently, but i guess that's just preperation
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212 2014-08-24 02:19:44 <earlz> headers only means no orphan blocks? that's interesting
213 2014-08-24 02:20:21 <earlz> seems kind of like moving to a concensus form of tracking blocks
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216 2014-08-24 02:22:58 <earlz> seems like it'd make a wallet getting stuck much more likely though
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245 2014-08-24 02:49:09 <jgarzik> PSA: Today's torrent will be the last bootstrap.dat torrent. Future torrents will split the block chain into files no larger than 1GB (and often smaller). https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145386.msg8507165#msg8507165
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247 2014-08-24 02:49:36 <jgarzik> IMO, bootstrap.dat itself may be deprecated, but that's open for debate...
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252 2014-08-24 02:54:23 <dmj`> where do I go to see the rise and rise of bitcoin documentary?
253 2014-08-24 02:55:41 <Luke-Jr> dmj`: off-topic and afaik does not exist. #bitcoin to continue this conversation
254 2014-08-24 02:56:11 <dmj`> Luke-Jr: I asked there, either I'm muted or no one replied
255 2014-08-24 02:56:38 <dmj`> Luke-Jr: of course it exists: http://theriseandriseofbitcoin.com/
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261 2014-08-24 02:59:30 <Luke-Jr> dmj`: again, this is off-topic here. just because nobody wants to discuss it does not mean it's acceptable to bring it to the wrong venue.
262 2014-08-24 03:04:29 <dmj`> Luke-Jr: please stop telling me what to do
263 2014-08-24 03:06:43 <jgarzik> michagogo, Testing the new format torrent now, release in another 3000 blocks or so, perhaps
264 2014-08-24 03:07:16 <jgarzik> michagogo, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4757 generates old bootstrap.dat or new format
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270 2014-08-24 03:10:47 <BlueMatt> jgarzik: I think headers first may deprecate it
271 2014-08-24 03:13:16 <BlueMatt> (hopefully
272 2014-08-24 03:13:16 <BlueMatt> )
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281 2014-08-24 03:29:56 <jgarzik> BlueMatt, Ideally the torrent will be relegated to research purposes and infrequent uses once headers-first lands
282 2014-08-24 03:30:06 <jgarzik> but who knows, once archive nodes are deployed
283 2014-08-24 03:30:13 <BlueMatt> research purposes?
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286 2014-08-24 03:33:29 <jgarzik> BlueMatt, if you need the dataset, easier to just download the block data directly, than run a full node and have it indirectly perform the same function
287 2014-08-24 03:33:34 <phantomcircuit> BlueMatt, it's well formatted blockchain data basically
288 2014-08-24 03:33:51 <phantomcircuit> jgarzik, not to mention it's not full of orphans and/or garbage
289 2014-08-24 03:33:56 <jgarzik> you know the blocks are in-order, with no orphans
290 2014-08-24 03:33:58 <BlueMatt> jgarzik: true
291 2014-08-24 03:34:06 <BlueMatt> mostly in-order w/o orphans
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323 2014-08-24 05:01:52 <jgarzik> 2014-08-24 04:55:21 UpdateTip: new best=0000000000000000070337cf17903810498b47e9c7b077920214d17ea7f0ae7f height=313937 log2_work=80.035541 tx=43818183 date=2014-08-04 11:01:22 progress=0.924860
324 2014-08-24 05:01:52 <jgarzik> 2014-08-24 04:55:21 ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=2 out of range
325 2014-08-24 05:01:52 <jgarzik> 2014-08-24 04:55:21 ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=2 out of range
326 2014-08-24 05:01:52 <jgarzik> 2014-08-24 04:55:21 ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=2 out of range
327 2014-08-24 05:01:52 <jgarzik> 2014-08-24 04:55:21 ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=1 out of range
328 2014-08-24 05:01:54 <jgarzik> 2014-08-24 04:55:21 ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=1 out of range
329 2014-08-24 05:01:55 <jgarzik> 2014-08-24 04:55:21 ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=1 out of range
330 2014-08-24 05:01:58 <jgarzik> 2014-08-24 04:55:22 UpdateTip: new best=00000000000000001004f5fdaa079dd8ca2c95c077fb2d87494ffb9de234cff1 height=313938 log2_work=80.035635 tx=43819630 date=2014-08-04 11:37:39 progress=0.924955
331 2014-08-24 05:02:20 <jgarzik> _hopefully_ those out-of-range are referring to garbage incoming from network, and not garbage in my blk*.dat
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464 2014-08-24 08:40:23 <dionyziz> Hello.
465 2014-08-24 08:40:49 <dionyziz> Can I get some bitcoin testnet coins? 0.5BTC would be fine. Thanks! mozULF1a2qPS1cWXYNk2tie8XGWo4r1PhV
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469 2014-08-24 08:50:20 <justanotheruser> dionyziz: 5f1b14f02e6a2e02456a4f61f618a6a410df60908a228b71935361b20279ac30
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473 2014-08-24 08:54:45 <dionyziz> justanotheruser: Thanks :)
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482 2014-08-24 09:15:51 <BlueMatt> hmm, is there a reason syncing from a node running master should be slower than syncing from a node running 0.9.2.1?
483 2014-08-24 09:16:20 <gmaxwell> none that I'm aware of, seems unlikely to me.
484 2014-08-24 09:27:03 <midnightmagic> comments on whether pullreq based on: https://github.com/midnightmagic/bitcoin/commit/244915c31d7a563a64b8519fae93fc05e3e3e837#diff-d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e or a pullreq based on: https://github.com/midnightmagic/bitcoin/commit/f2c050781f8dbf497d988113d9740610de6150f2#diff-d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e would be more successful? the pkgsrc people are requesting a merge upstream to eliminate the dangers of late merge
485 2014-08-24 09:27:09 <midnightmagic> fails.
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487 2014-08-24 09:30:27 <gmaxwell> midnightmagic: first hunk is incorrectâ I think, that should be accomplished by adjusting autotools to detect and set the right include path.
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489 2014-08-24 09:31:18 <gmaxwell> (which it does just fine on my fedora systemâ it's in /usr/include/libdb4/db_cxx.h )
490 2014-08-24 09:32:13 <gmaxwell> No opinion on the leveldb part, that should go upstream to leveldb ultimately so it should be what they'd want.
491 2014-08-24 09:32:19 <gmaxwell> Netbase change looks okay to me.
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493 2014-08-24 09:33:08 <midnightmagic> case in point then. these were the straight pkgsrc patch files. I can correct that in the pkgsrc wip entry easy.
494 2014-08-24 09:33:10 <gmaxwell> Why is the walletdb change needed? A boost bug on netbsd or?
495 2014-08-24 09:33:46 <midnightmagic> there's a build issue, this one here: http://www.robertnitsch.de/notes/cpp/cpp11_boost_filesystem_undefined_reference_copy_file
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497 2014-08-24 09:35:05 <midnightmagic> in exploring it, it appears it's not immediately easy to get boost homogeneously building with bitcoin (and others) with/without the -std=c++0x flag
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499 2014-08-24 09:36:38 <midnightmagic> so, rather than risk a minor makefile failure messing it up in the future, i thought maybe easier to avoid it altogether, since it only affects copy_file() and not copy()..
500 2014-08-24 09:36:50 <midnightmagic> I'm not attached to any of those changes btw.
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503 2014-08-24 09:39:04 <midnightmagic> tangential irrelevance: it's super irritating that ldd is hardwired to verbose mode when resolving symbol versions, while still retaining all the programmatic logic to support suppression of associated errors
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505 2014-08-24 09:41:09 <BlueMatt> naa, found my bug
506 2014-08-24 09:42:15 <kdomanski__> midnightmagic: that issue is resolved with #define BOOST_NO_CXX11_SCOPED_ENUMS
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508 2014-08-24 09:43:12 <kdomanski__> ah, right, the page you linked says so
509 2014-08-24 09:43:43 <midnightmagic> kdomanski__: one would think so. the error message of a missing copy_file() def with enums persists after patching even right down to the included boost headers.
510 2014-08-24 09:44:33 <Diablo-D3> hey guys
511 2014-08-24 09:44:55 <Diablo-D3> did any of you ever come across a pci-e flexible riser that was advertised as 3.0 compatible?
512 2014-08-24 09:45:27 <midnightmagic> buildlink3 dumps boost headers into the temp working (build) tree and setting even the superceding define does not eliminate the problem; is there a hard necessity for the use of copy_file rather than copy?
513 2014-08-24 09:45:53 <kdomanski__> midnightmagic: what boost version?
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515 2014-08-24 09:46:07 <gmaxwell> midnightmagic: are you putting in the define ahead of including the boost headers?
516 2014-08-24 09:46:19 <midnightmagic> kdomanski__: exact version is 1.55.0nb1
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518 2014-08-24 09:46:33 <midnightmagic> packages required for building are boost-headers-1.55.0nb1 and boost-libs-1.55.0nb1
519 2014-08-24 09:48:05 <midnightmagic> gmaxwell: I did, yes. And then, irritated, I manually modified the boost headers themselves, and then manually edited the proto to eliminate that line itself. The last attempt worked. I didn't trace with a cpp raw output yet or exhaust all possibilities in the interest of getting a functional build going faster.
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522 2014-08-24 09:52:05 <midnightmagic> also tangentially, pkgsrc lists vulns for qt-4.8.x that have been open and unresolved for .. like two years or something, and a number of unresolved qt-5.2.x recent vulns which are also unresolved. So building full bitcoind-qt under the pkgsrc framework requires manual intervention to explicitly ignore those URLs, or shut off pkgsrc vuln checking altogether.
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529 2014-08-24 10:02:06 <midnightmagic> gmaxwell: possibility exists I made a mistake of course.
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531 2014-08-24 10:03:53 <sipa> jgarzik: that return 1 in case of out of range with sighash_one is significant and consensus critical
532 2014-08-24 10:07:27 <Diablo-D3> I think I answered my own question
533 2014-08-24 10:07:28 <Diablo-D3> http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Interconnect/Home/Products/ProductCatalog/Catalog/?PC_Z7_RJH9U5230O73D0ISNF9B3C3SI1000000_nid=TMHBQ9MBNLitJ249BH4P7KglS6SKK96VN3bl
534 2014-08-24 10:07:32 <Diablo-D3> I can get that for $59
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820 2014-08-24 17:52:18 <jgarzik> -rw-rw-r-- 1 jgarzik jgarzik 522737 Oct 31 2009 blk00009.dat
821 2014-08-24 17:52:19 <jgarzik> -rw-rw-r-- 1 jgarzik jgarzik 521531 Nov 30 2009 blk00010.dat
822 2014-08-24 17:52:19 <jgarzik> -rw-rw-r-- 1 jgarzik jgarzik 992159 Dec 31 2009 blk00011.dat
823 2014-08-24 17:52:19 <jgarzik> -rw-rw-r-- 1 jgarzik jgarzik 1190943 Jan 31 2010 blk00012.dat
824 2014-08-24 17:52:19 <jgarzik> -rw-rw-r-- 1 jgarzik jgarzik 1580654 Feb 28 2010 blk00013.dat
825 2014-08-24 17:52:19 <jgarzik> -rw-rw-r-- 1 jgarzik jgarzik 1435103 Mar 31 2010 blk00014.dat
826 2014-08-24 17:52:21 <jgarzik> -rw-rw-r-- 1 jgarzik jgarzik 2646319 Apr 30 2010 blk00015.dat
827 2014-08-24 17:52:23 <jgarzik> ...
828 2014-08-24 17:53:02 <jgarzik> linearize spits out one file per month's worth of blocks. files are dated to the highest block timestamp seen thus far.
829 2014-08-24 17:53:45 <Luke-Jr> tiny files
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831 2014-08-24 17:55:46 <sipa> jgarzik: the warning of returning 1 in signaturehash; it is normal, expected, significant, and consensus criticL
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834 2014-08-24 17:56:35 <jgarzik> sipa, what is the context of this discussion?
835 2014-08-24 17:56:45 <jgarzik> I don't recall bringing that up.
836 2014-08-24 17:58:09 <sipa> you were worried that the warnings you saw were the result of corrupted block files
837 2014-08-24 17:58:23 <sipa> i believe that's unlikely
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840 2014-08-24 18:04:19 <jgarzik> <jgarzik> 2014-08-24 04:55:21 ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=2 out of range
841 2014-08-24 18:04:31 <jgarzik> sipa, the above is not SignatureHash returning 1 AFAICT?
842 2014-08-24 18:04:40 * jgarzik looks further
843 2014-08-24 18:05:00 <michagogo> jgarzik: now have you implemented the partial -reindex (just update location of blocks on disk) yet? :P
844 2014-08-24 18:05:11 <jgarzik> sipa, ah, I see the other end of it
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846 2014-08-24 18:05:59 <jgarzik> sipa, when that occurs during a -reindex operation, it seems odd
847 2014-08-24 18:06:20 <sipa> as i said
848 2014-08-24 18:06:23 <sipa> it's nirmal
849 2014-08-24 18:06:52 <jgarzik> sipa, it is normal... for a transaction with such garbage to appear in a mined block, then get rejected during processing?
850 2014-08-24 18:07:26 <jgarzik> that's the issue
851 2014-08-24 18:07:53 <jgarzik> If it came from the network, that behavior would be expected.
852 2014-08-24 18:08:01 <jgarzik> Coming from an on-disk block, that behavior is unexpected.
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857 2014-08-24 18:16:58 <sipa> jgarzik: it is nit garbage
858 2014-08-24 18:17:12 <sipa> it is a transaction that effectivepy signed the uint256 '1'
859 2014-08-24 18:17:33 <sipa> which is valid, weird, but part of the consensus rules to be valid in that case
860 2014-08-24 18:17:36 <sipa> *not
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862 2014-08-24 18:18:23 <sipa> at least, such transactions exist
863 2014-08-24 18:18:30 <sipa> maybe you really just have corruption
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865 2014-08-24 18:21:13 <sipa> jgarzik: wrt the new linearize format: currently bitcoind guarantees that blocks on disk are in the correct order, but headersfirst removes that constraint (due to parallel block download...)
866 2014-08-24 18:21:43 <jgarzik> sipa, yes, thus the added check to notice if that changes
867 2014-08-24 18:22:05 <jgarzik> eventually I'll have to buffer stuff and reorder it manually
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869 2014-08-24 18:23:27 <jgarzik> I need to switch linearize-hashes.py from headling block hashes via RPC to downloading block headers via P2P
870 2014-08-24 18:23:44 <jgarzik> *downloading
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975 2014-08-24 21:12:21 <alfacent> hi, is there anyone around?
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997 2014-08-24 21:46:27 <sipa> alfacent: naybe
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1001 2014-08-24 21:53:13 <alfacent> Can you tell a bit how "nTime" and "nBits" relate to "nNonce". I understand what the nonce is for, but what is "nTime" and "nBits" for?
1002 2014-08-24 21:54:49 <alfacent> Ah, wait, I guess nBits is the number of leading zeros for mining
1003 2014-08-24 21:55:07 <alfacent> is that it?
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1024 2014-08-24 22:14:22 <Luke-Jr> alfacent: more or less.
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1027 2014-08-24 22:17:00 <alfacent> Luke-Jr: can you say a bit about nTime, then?
1028 2014-08-24 22:17:40 <Luke-Jr> it's a timestamp. not much to say.
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1032 2014-08-24 22:20:22 <sipa> alfacent: nTime is the timestamp of a block, in unix format
1033 2014-08-24 22:20:45 <sipa> alfacent: it's required to be after the median of the past 11 blocks' timestamps, and less than 2 hours in the future
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1035 2014-08-24 22:20:57 <sipa> but it's not actually required to be close to the time of mining
1036 2014-08-24 22:22:07 <sipa> nBits is a custom compact encoding for 256 integers, using 23 bits of mantissa, a sign bit, and 8 exponent bits, together encoding the maximum acceptable hash value (the target)
1037 2014-08-24 22:22:18 <sipa> *for 256 bit integers
1038 2014-08-24 22:24:52 <alfacent> is that explained somewhere on the wiki pages?
1039 2014-08-24 22:25:33 <Luke-Jr> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty#How_is_difficulty_stored_in_blocks.3F
1040 2014-08-24 22:25:52 <Luke-Jr> and/or https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Block_hashing_algorithm
1041 2014-08-24 22:27:06 <alfacent> I have to make this questions because I look at the code and have no clues. Shall I keep making questions or is it too much of a burden?
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1043 2014-08-24 22:27:14 <alfacent> these
1044 2014-08-24 22:28:19 <Luke-Jr> alfacent: it's okay, but if the wiki is unclear, please help improve it
1045 2014-08-24 22:28:32 <Luke-Jr> (and do consult the wiki before asking ;)
1046 2014-08-24 22:29:14 <sipa> and read the developer documentation on the website too
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1048 2014-08-24 22:29:44 <Luke-Jr> +1
1049 2014-08-24 22:29:48 <alfacent> ok, I will do that.
1050 2014-08-24 22:30:16 <sipa> https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-guide
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1111 2014-08-24 23:15:22 <alfacent> Why are double hashings used, like in SHA256(SHA256(Block_Header)) ?
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1113 2014-08-24 23:15:58 <belcher> we'd find out about attacks on sha256() long before sha256^2()
1114 2014-08-24 23:17:27 <sipa> alfacent: ask satoshi, he probably thought it was safer
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1116 2014-08-24 23:18:17 <alfacent> I see
1117 2014-08-24 23:18:38 <Luke-Jr> it probably is for this purpose
1118 2014-08-24 23:19:09 <alfacent> do you also think it is safer?
1119 2014-08-24 23:19:12 <Luke-Jr> considering how it's been mostly optimised down to a single hash for mining
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1122 2014-08-24 23:19:55 <sipa> i don't thik it is safer, no
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1128 2014-08-24 23:25:04 <andytoshi> i think, in contexts where length extension attacks are doable, it is safer...and satoshi wanted a single hash for everything, so here we are double-hashing fixed-]ength headers
1129 2014-08-24 23:26:36 <andytoshi> though come to think of it, i'm not sure anything in bitcoin is in a length-extendable format
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1131 2014-08-24 23:27:09 <sipa> it's all highly structured data anyway
1132 2014-08-24 23:29:17 <alfacent> Have you read the book "Mastering Bitcoin" by Andreas Antonopoulos? What do you reckon?
1133 2014-08-24 23:29:58 <sipa> i doubt i would learn anything :)
1134 2014-08-24 23:30:33 <Apocalyptic> safe assumption
1135 2014-08-24 23:30:37 <netg_> he mastered it without implementation
1136 2014-08-24 23:30:42 <netg_> just in his head
1137 2014-08-24 23:30:46 <andytoshi> alfacent: i read the first four chapters, which he put on github ... 90% bc.i shilling, 50% incorrect
1138 2014-08-24 23:30:48 <alfacent> the eliptic curves explanation is quite good, I reckon
1139 2014-08-24 23:31:06 <Apocalyptic> netg_, from what I got it's far from mastered, even in theory
1140 2014-08-24 23:31:13 <andytoshi> i highly doubt it, i didn't read it carefully since the high-level stuff was so bad anyway
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1145 2014-08-24 23:42:31 <gmaxwell> the stacked sha256 is a construct used by the example fortuna construction. Since there were, even back then, attacks on reduced round sha256 there could be a rational that doubled sha256 had a better security story. Though since we mostly care about second preimage security, for the same computational budged H1(X)^H2(X) probably would have been better then trying to round-extend.
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1148 2014-08-24 23:46:22 <alfacent> Do you think BitcoinJ is helpful to understand Satoshi's code?
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