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117 2014-08-31 02:46:55 <dcousens> does a Tx sequence number have any effect on a transactions behaviour in the mempool?
118 2014-08-31 02:46:58 <dcousens> (nowadays)
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150 2014-08-31 03:44:58 <bassguitarman> I have a question for the devs
151 2014-08-31 03:45:21 <bassguitarman> I am about to start working on watch only addresses in the bitcoin client
152 2014-08-31 03:45:28 <bassguitarman> are you against this at all?
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156 2014-08-31 03:54:02 <Luke-Jr> bassguitarman: working on in what sense?
157 2014-08-31 03:54:13 <Luke-Jr> bassguitarman: it's a bad idea, and already supported in Bitcoin Core.
158 2014-08-31 03:54:31 <bassguitarman> It is?
159 2014-08-31 03:54:35 <Luke-Jr> yes
160 2014-08-31 03:55:18 <bassguitarman> is it natively supported?
161 2014-08-31 03:55:22 <Luke-Jr> ⦠yes
162 2014-08-31 03:55:28 <bassguitarman> I cant find any reference, sorry :)
163 2014-08-31 03:55:34 <Luke-Jr> bassguitarman: if you want something to work on toward making it better (ie, no longer "watch only addresses"), I suggest focussing on HD wallet and multiwallet support
164 2014-08-31 03:55:42 <Luke-Jr> that's because it's not released until 0.10
165 2014-08-31 03:55:58 <bassguitarman> Luke-Jr, that makes sense
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170 2014-08-31 03:57:47 <Luke-Jr> bassguitarman: the ability to load multiple wallets in the same instance of Bitcoin Core
171 2014-08-31 03:57:55 * stapler117 can't wait untill HD wallet in bitcoin-core
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222 2014-08-31 05:55:57 <BlueMatt> valid point: https://bitcoin.org/en/download's source link points to master, but all other links on that page are to 0.9.2.1
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308 2014-08-31 08:16:48 <jacob___> i downloaded bitcoin client on my linux, but frack!! is there an easier way to download the blockchain? maybe torrent?
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313 2014-08-31 08:19:20 <fanquake> jacob__ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145386.0
314 2014-08-31 08:19:24 <kuzetsa> jacob___: yes, there is
315 2014-08-31 08:19:28 <kuzetsa> thanks fanquake
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317 2014-08-31 08:19:52 <kuzetsa> jacob___ that link is for the torrent (the one fanquake linked)
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319 2014-08-31 08:20:51 <jacob___> ok cool
320 2014-08-31 08:20:57 <kuzetsa> :)
321 2014-08-31 08:21:02 <jacob___> thanks kuzetsa
322 2014-08-31 08:21:09 <kuzetsa> heh, I didn't do anything
323 2014-08-31 08:21:21 <kuzetsa> just confirmed it was the same link I was trying to dig up and mentioned as much lol
324 2014-08-31 08:21:24 <jacob___> you potentially saved me A LOT of time
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336 2014-08-31 08:44:30 <jacob___> whats the status on ethereum,.., did they produce a workable client yet?
337 2014-08-31 08:44:54 <BlueMatt> jacob___: not here
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491 2014-08-31 12:47:34 <wumpus> gmaxwell: I'd prefer to have only one regtest mode as well, on the other hand if some tests really need specific sets of parameters to work with I'm not going to block that
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494 2014-08-31 12:48:38 <wumpus> gmaxwell: there should anyhow be no tests for specific chains in the production code, the idea is to have flags on the Params object and test those
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497 2014-08-31 12:50:48 <wumpus> anyhow if it's possible to have the tests use just the current mainnet, regtest or testnet that'd be preferable
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603 2014-08-31 14:36:48 <jtimon> weird SSL error with pull tester but not with travis https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4796
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605 2014-08-31 14:38:19 <jtimon> wumpus is it related to testing standardness stuff without mining?
606 2014-08-31 14:39:23 <jtimon> maybe we should just regtest's behavior to be more like mainnet, should be easy to do in chainparams
607 2014-08-31 14:40:13 <jtimon> You're talking about #4732, right?
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635 2014-08-31 15:18:43 <dgenr8> dcousens: nSequence < (max uint value) enables tx to be non-final based on nLockTime. nothing else.
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710 2014-08-31 16:31:38 <dcousens> dgenr8: what do you mean by non-final?
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744 2014-08-31 17:17:09 <jtimon> dcousens probably main.cpp::IsFinalTx()
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747 2014-08-31 17:19:03 <azariah4> when creating the tx hash to sign with SIGHASH_ALL and SIGHASH_ANYONECANPAY , should the input count always be set to 01?
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750 2014-08-31 17:20:51 <azariah4> noticed bitcoinj seems to clear all inputs and just add the one input that is signed: https://github.com/bitcoinj/bitcoinj/blob/master/core/src/main/java/com/google/bitcoin/core/Transaction.java#L992
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754 2014-08-31 17:23:41 <azariah4> ah, I should RTFM. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/OP_CHECKSIG#Procedure_for_Hashtype_SIGHASH_ANYONECANPAY
755 2014-08-31 17:23:52 <jtimon> azariah I'm not sure I understand the question
756 2014-08-31 17:24:21 <jtimon> but you may want to read class script.cpp::CTransactionSignatureSerializer
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758 2014-08-31 17:25:37 <jtimon> void SerializeInput(S &s, unsigned int nInput, int nType, int nVersion) const {
759 2014-08-31 17:25:37 <jtimon> // In case of SIGHASH_ANYONECANPAY, only the input being signed is serialized
760 2014-08-31 17:25:37 <jtimon> if (fAnyoneCanPay)
761 2014-08-31 17:25:37 <jtimon> nInput = nIn;
762 2014-08-31 17:25:37 <jtimon> // Serialize the prevout
763 2014-08-31 17:25:38 <jtimon> ::Serialize(s, txTo.vin[nInput].prevout, nType, nVersion);
764 2014-08-31 17:26:12 <azariah4> yepp that's exactly what I was looking for
765 2014-08-31 17:26:17 <jgarzik> "If programming languages were weapons" http://bjorn.tipling.com/if-programming-languages-were-weapons </off-topic>
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768 2014-08-31 17:28:13 <Ademan> haha js is a sword without a hilt
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770 2014-08-31 17:29:50 <Ademan> That seems unfair about PHP though, I heard you can create a really great Bitcoin node from scratch with PHP
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772 2014-08-31 17:31:27 <sipa> lol
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774 2014-08-31 17:33:17 <jtimon> Ademan, I don't get it
775 2014-08-31 17:33:57 <jtimon> did anyone actually tried that?
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777 2014-08-31 17:34:19 <jtimon> a php bitcoin node from scratch?
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785 2014-08-31 17:40:24 <Ademan> jtimon: yeah, karpeles did
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787 2014-08-31 17:41:20 <jtimon> oh, I see
788 2014-08-31 17:41:40 <jtimon> well it was mccaleb who started that, no?
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794 2014-08-31 17:47:04 <Ademan> It's possible that the bitcoin-node-in-php was an addition by karpeles, but I don't know
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796 2014-08-31 17:49:53 <sipa> Ademan: mtgox's own bitcoin client was in c++ (allegedly)
797 2014-08-31 17:50:29 <Ademan> sipa: hrm, I thought I had heard otherwise, but they may have been referring to the website and I misunderstood
798 2014-08-31 17:50:58 <sipa> the website was php yes
799 2014-08-31 17:51:46 <Adlai> jgarzik: thanks for that :D
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801 2014-08-31 17:55:04 <Ademan> I was just trying to figure out why Luke was receiving emails for errors at Gox, but then I realized it was regarding transaction submission
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807 2014-08-31 17:59:03 <anddam> can bitcoin-qt be run without the server? the idea would be to use it as a GUI for an already running bitcoind instance
808 2014-08-31 17:59:18 <sipa> ni
809 2014-08-31 17:59:20 <sipa> no
810 2014-08-31 17:59:35 <sipa> you can run it with or without the rpc server
811 2014-08-31 17:59:40 <sipa> but not without the core
812 2014-08-31 17:59:53 <anddam> sipa: I actually appreciated the "ni"
813 2014-08-31 18:00:06 <sipa> i want you to find a shrobbery
814 2014-08-31 18:00:21 <anddam> sure, let me start the dictionary app first
815 2014-08-31 18:01:26 <anddam> sipa: that's a curious request
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817 2014-08-31 18:02:43 <anddam> different topic: do I need to explicitly do something after importing a priv key in order to generate the public counterpart?
818 2014-08-31 18:02:55 <anddam> importprivkey at https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Original_Bitcoin_client/API_calls_list says "There's no need to import public key, as in ECDSA (unlike RSA) this can be computed from private key"
819 2014-08-31 18:03:25 <sipa> what do you want to do?
820 2014-08-31 18:04:46 <anddam> import a private key
821 2014-08-31 18:05:11 <anddam> oh, I just figured it was shown in https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/How_to_import_private_keys_v7%2B
822 2014-08-31 18:05:25 <anddam> the public key is automatically calculated, is that correct?
823 2014-08-31 18:05:30 <sipa> yes
824 2014-08-31 18:05:44 <anddam> ok, I just never did that and was curious
825 2014-08-31 18:05:57 <sipa> if you imported the key, bitcoin-qt knows the key
826 2014-08-31 18:06:03 <anddam> about the GUI/core separation is there a plan to move into that direction?
827 2014-08-31 18:06:18 <sipa> yes, but hardly more than a plan
828 2014-08-31 18:06:30 <anddam> sipa: my question was focused on the public key, since I was thinking of importing the private key
829 2014-08-31 18:07:05 <anddam> I mean I see that since public key can be calculated talking about a single key or a pair makes no difference
830 2014-08-31 18:07:31 <anddam> thanks for the info
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854 2014-08-31 18:39:43 <jtimon> sipa I made #4754 easier to review
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904 2014-08-31 19:38:29 <sipa> jtimon: thabks; will review soon
905 2014-08-31 19:38:44 <jtimon> cool, thanks
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910 2014-08-31 19:44:20 <anddam> my client is rescanning the blockchain, is the process cpu or disk bound?
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912 2014-08-31 19:44:27 <anddam> I'm on i5 with an SSD
913 2014-08-31 19:44:54 <anddam> what kind of time could I expect with current blockchain height?
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915 2014-08-31 19:47:15 <Luke-Jr> anddam: #bitcoin
916 2014-08-31 19:47:25 <anddam> k
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961 2014-08-31 20:56:44 <jtimon> in util::GetDataDir(bool fNetSpecific = true) we can cache the path for specific modes/networks
962 2014-08-31 20:57:34 <jtimon> is this really necessary? Can you start testnet and then move to mainnet without restarting bitcoind?
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964 2014-08-31 20:58:01 <sipa> no
965 2014-08-31 20:58:26 <sipa> in particular, that would require resetting the blockchain data
966 2014-08-31 20:58:31 <sipa> which isn't really supported
967 2014-08-31 20:58:44 <jtimon> so I can remove that parameter and only cache one path, right?
968 2014-08-31 20:58:44 <sipa> (and is a pain in the ass for tests, so it'd be nice to change that)
969 2014-08-31 20:58:52 <sipa> ah
970 2014-08-31 20:59:05 <sipa> no, the initial config file can be read before the network is known at all
971 2014-08-31 20:59:17 <sipa> that's the reason for the netspecific
972 2014-08-31 20:59:45 <jtimon> mhmm, what about not caching in that first read? I could replace it with a bool cache param
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974 2014-08-31 21:00:44 <sipa> wumpus probably knows better why and what those things are for
975 2014-08-31 21:01:22 <jtimon> it would be nice to be able to remove that BaseParams().NetworkID()...
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1002 2014-08-31 21:39:55 <aljosa> is it possible to use bitcoin libraries to create decentralized network and use it to distribute content and verify content source?
1003 2014-08-31 21:41:23 <jtimon> #bittorrent ?
1004 2014-08-31 21:43:06 <jtimon> #tahoe-lafs ?
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1008 2014-08-31 21:48:31 <Luke-Jr> aljosa: of course it's possible, just incredibly stupid and inefficient; that's what BitTorrent, git-annex, and similar technologies are designed for
1009 2014-08-31 21:48:47 <Luke-Jr> Bitcoin isn't designed for distributing content or anything like that
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1014 2014-08-31 21:56:23 <joedoe-> hehe
1015 2014-08-31 21:56:38 <joedoe-> dont be like smtp creators ;>
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1018 2014-08-31 21:57:25 <aljosa> i don't need it to distribute content, i need to guarantee that network agrees which node in network created content and that it can't be altered after ownership is set
1019 2014-08-31 21:59:24 <joedoe-> I am not sure although I think similiar project already exists
1020 2014-08-31 21:59:24 <joedoe-> w8
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1033 2014-08-31 22:14:03 <jtimon> sipa I got it without changing the parameter #4803
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