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335 2014-09-11 08:27:22 <wumpus> warren: pong?
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347 2014-09-11 08:37:27 <wumpus> why is markets.blockchain.info connecting to my node every 5 seconds, doing nothing but immediately disconnect again
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350 2014-09-11 08:38:56 <wumpus> I can't think of any reason why this would be useful...
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362 2014-09-11 08:54:11 <arowser> I guess they try to check if your node is online, but 5 seconds is too short.
363 2014-09-11 08:54:19 <warren> wumpus: sipa: sorry about that, I thought I found a problem in one of the recent patches but gmaxwell corrected me
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365 2014-09-11 08:55:45 <wumpus> arowser: but why would they care if my node is online? and indeed, why with such small granularity?
366 2014-09-11 08:57:03 <wumpus> anyhow I'll just contact them
367 2014-09-11 08:57:53 * wumpus is close to adding a measure to automatically bans nodes that reconnect too fast
368 2014-09-11 08:58:20 <warren> wumpus: that's easy with iptables
369 2014-09-11 08:58:38 <warren> iptables can also prevent too many connections from the same IP or subnet
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372 2014-09-11 09:00:09 <wumpus> sure, that'd be possible, but I think hammering a node with repeated connections is misbehavior (and something the real client would never do), even though it's not directly harmful
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374 2014-09-11 09:01:13 <warren> agreed
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383 2014-09-11 09:11:43 <wumpus> ResendWalletTransactions()'s logic is a bit twisted; it looks at, and sorts *all* wallet transactions older than 5 hours, and only just before actually relaying each transaction it checks if the transaction is unconfirmed
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385 2014-09-11 09:13:10 <wumpus> meh, only one of the many things that make the wallet slow with lots of transactions
386 2014-09-11 09:14:19 <arowser> wumpus: Just guss, and what's the blockchain.info ip, I want try to check it on my node.
387 2014-09-11 09:14:52 <wumpus> arowser: I gave the hostname, you can easily look up the ip :p
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389 2014-09-11 09:17:01 <arowser> wumpus: The site looks like behind cloudflare CDN, how to get it's realy IP?
390 2014-09-11 09:17:38 <wumpus> sigh, okay it's 209.105.246.182
391 2014-09-11 09:18:05 <arowser> wumpus:thanks
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396 2014-09-11 09:25:21 <arowser> wumpus: The ip(209.105.246.182) seems not run a active node, I search the history on three site http://btcnodes.org/search?keyword=209.105.246.182 https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/?q=209.105.246.182 https://blockchain.info/ip-address/209.105.246.182, but no any result, and I can't find it on my three active node's debug.log, so its just connect your node by tcp, and not send any msg like "ver"?
397 2014-09-11 09:25:48 <wumpus> it does do the version handshake
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400 2014-09-11 09:28:10 <arowser> so its just a tcp connect, then close it immediately?
401 2014-09-11 09:32:47 <wumpus> no, it connects, it does sends its version, it receives my version, I send a verack, sometimes even a ping, then it disconnects...
402 2014-09-11 09:33:23 <wumpus> identifies as /BitCoinJ:0.12SNAPSHOT/Satoshi:0.2.0/: version 70001
403 2014-09-11 09:34:03 <arowser> wumpus: its wired
404 2014-09-11 09:34:18 <wumpus> ?
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406 2014-09-11 09:36:31 <arowser> wumpus: my node not received it, it just for you
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408 2014-09-11 09:37:38 <wumpus> I doubt that, but I guess it's a subset
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413 2014-09-11 09:45:32 <wumpus> seeing from the sequence of their source port numbers they're connecting to 150-200 nodes every time
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415 2014-09-11 09:48:56 <wumpus> hah, must have been a software bug, they stopped hammering and open a normal connection dialogue now
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429 2014-09-11 10:06:16 <inian> Hi I have set up a local regtest network and I would like to set up a mining pool as well on my local network to simulate some experiments.
430 2014-09-11 10:06:53 <inian> any place where I can get started on setting up a private mining pool which my nodes can connect to?
431 2014-09-11 10:07:52 <wumpus> it may be better to use a testnet-in-a-box setup instead of regtest if you want to simulate a mining pool, as regtest doesn't require mining
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433 2014-09-11 10:09:05 <inian> The testnet-in-a-box is not related to the testnet network right?
434 2014-09-11 10:09:49 <wumpus> well - it's a testnet, but limited to your own nodes, unlike the regtest network it does have a variable difficulty
435 2014-09-11 10:10:13 <inian> How do I simulate the mining environment using that?
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437 2014-09-11 10:10:30 <wumpus> make your miners connect to one of the nodes?
438 2014-09-11 10:10:58 <inian> Sorry, I meant a mining-pool environment
439 2014-09-11 10:11:01 <inian> not solo mining
440 2014-09-11 10:11:58 <inian> I looked online and could not find an open-source implementation of a mining pool for bitcoin which is currently being maintained
441 2014-09-11 10:19:20 <sturles> eloipool?
442 2014-09-11 10:19:33 <wumpus> not sure one exists; the open source preference is P2Pool
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444 2014-09-11 10:23:25 <inian> @sturles I will try eloipool..thanks!
445 2014-09-11 10:24:11 <inian> @wumpus yes P2Pool looks cool but I need a centralised mine pool for my simulation!
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509 2014-09-11 12:09:14 <b-itcoinssg> hearn:Hey Mike, really enjoyed your talk on lighthouse and SIGHASH_ANYONECANPAY!
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518 2014-09-11 12:21:27 <hearn> b-itcoinssg: thanks!
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521 2014-09-11 12:25:18 <b-itcoinssg> hearn: no prob. Is there, in your opinion, another promising untapped function of the Bitcoin protocol that holds promise, but don't have the time to work on?
522 2014-09-11 12:25:32 <hearn> have you read the contracts page?
523 2014-09-11 12:26:12 <hearn> https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-guide#contracts
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525 2014-09-11 12:27:27 <b-itcoinssg> not in detail, but, will do if you recommend it
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529 2014-09-11 12:32:43 <hearn> b-itcoinssg: it's docs intended for developers about other features. you can do micropayments, multi-party payments, payments conditional on various other things. quite a lot of interesting potential. there's a talk i gave in 2012 about this too.
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531 2014-09-11 12:33:00 <hearn> b-itcoinssg: so if you prefer videos then you could watch that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD4L7xDNCmA
532 2014-09-11 12:35:26 <b-itcoinssg> hearn: excellent! That sounds interesting enough to pursue. I've watched that video, but I'm gonna regurgitate again.
533 2014-09-11 12:37:20 <hearn> oh ok. well if you watched it already ...
534 2014-09-11 12:37:56 <b-itcoinssg> I'm downloading it, I'm gonna watch it again.
535 2014-09-11 12:40:07 <b-itcoinssg> If for some reason in the future, the hashing algorithm had to be replaced, e.g. let's say for security purposes. Would the transition be intractable or fairly smooth. I realize the there would have to be some sort of intervention where the network dictates that proof-of-work is now such and such. But would there have to changed made retrospectively, like
536 2014-09-11 12:40:07 <b-itcoinssg> address generation etc.?
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567 2014-09-11 13:32:19 <wumpus> I intend to tag 0.9.3rc2 soon; anything missing? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commits/0.9.3 @theuni any mac-related build/code signing changes that still have to go in?
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571 2014-09-11 13:33:58 <hearn> b-itcoinssg: if sha256 broke unexpectedly it's hard to imagine any workable transition that wasn't chaos. however there is no history of hash functions breaking over night
572 2014-09-11 13:34:09 <hearn> b-itcoinssg: they tend to get weaker with time. and humanity got better at designing them with time too
573 2014-09-11 13:34:15 <hearn> sha256 is widely considered to be extremely strong
574 2014-09-11 13:38:11 <b-itcoinssg> hearn: I couldn't disagree with any of what you just said. Sometimes I like to play devil's advocate just in the spirit of exploring territories in the hopes of making fringes, ex-fringes.
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596 2014-09-11 13:53:32 <jgarzik> Holy shit. The Bnak of England just emailed me personally. Drawing my attention to a quarterly bulletin, that discusses digital currencies.
597 2014-09-11 13:53:35 <jgarzik> *Bank
598 2014-09-11 13:53:45 <jgarzik> I bet a few other comm members got the same email
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600 2014-09-11 13:56:06 <hearn> i didn't, but i did get an email from a journo asking me what i thought of it
601 2014-09-11 13:56:09 <hearn> guess i should read it too
602 2014-09-11 13:58:07 <hearn> jgarzik: this is the bulletin that only mentions bitcoin once?
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604 2014-09-11 13:58:22 <hearn> does not seem very significant
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608 2014-09-11 13:59:54 <jgarzik> http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/quarterlybulletin/2014/qb14q3digitalcurrenciesbitcoin2.pdf
609 2014-09-11 14:00:07 <jgarzik> Just started reading. Still getting over the shock of a direct email from BoE to me.
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611 2014-09-11 14:01:17 <jgarzik> Companion article, "how digital currencies work" http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/quarterlybulletin/2014/qb14q3digitalcurrenciesbitcoin1.pdf
612 2014-09-11 14:01:20 <b-itcoinssg> jgarzik: to me that just indicates that they're doing they're due dilligence to contact the experts, isn't that what we hope they would do?
613 2014-09-11 14:02:00 <jgarzik> b-itcoinssg, ideally
614 2014-09-11 14:02:07 <jgarzik> b-itcoinssg, it also means bitcoin is growing up
615 2014-09-11 14:02:17 <b-itcoinssg> :-)
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624 2014-09-11 14:09:32 <hearn> jgarzik: ah ha
625 2014-09-11 14:09:38 <hearn> jgarzik: well BoE is just an organisation like any other :)
626 2014-09-11 14:10:20 <hearn> oh i see
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653 2014-09-11 14:31:36 <gavinandresen> jgarzik: BoE emailed me, too. Most interesting piece of spam Iâve received in a while....
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655 2014-09-11 14:32:03 <b-itcoinssg> lol
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659 2014-09-11 14:34:51 <jgarzik> The backgrounder is actually quite good, and goes into bitcoin in some depth.
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661 2014-09-11 14:35:16 <jgarzik> It covers proof-of-work, orphan blocks, and other details.
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695 2014-09-11 15:00:46 <amaclin> does not cover bitcoin risks: centralization, forking...
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705 2014-09-11 15:08:57 <wumpus> would be funny if BoE saw centralization as a risk
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709 2014-09-11 15:11:35 <hearn> wumpus: they do!
710 2014-09-11 15:11:42 <hearn> they talk about the risk of miner centralisation and monopoly
711 2014-09-11 15:11:50 <hearn> they have quite a sophisticated analysis and argument about miner economy and fees
712 2014-09-11 15:12:24 <hearn> although they seemed to suggest they think the hardware arms race will never end. not sure i followed that part.
713 2014-09-11 15:13:20 <Luke-Jr> hearn: if the price keeps going up, it subsidises more hardware
714 2014-09-11 15:13:41 <hearn> yeah but their argument was based on that
715 2014-09-11 15:14:12 <Luke-Jr> was or wasn't?
716 2014-09-11 15:14:21 <hearn> oops wasn't
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718 2014-09-11 15:16:58 <MiningBuddy> im looking for a proxy type of setup to modify hashrate output to multiple sources, something similar to the 3 way mining you can do in cgminer but need more control if anything like that already exists?
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727 2014-09-11 15:26:47 <ajweiss> i'm not sure if i agree with their choice to plot hashrate against "address count"
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731 2014-09-11 15:27:49 <paveljanik> Do we still need MEMPOOL_GD_VERSION constant?
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745 2014-09-11 15:39:32 <jgarzik> got BoE to fix an error
746 2014-09-11 15:39:53 <jgarzik> They refer to "longest chain of blocks" when it is total PoW
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753 2014-09-11 15:46:21 <Luke-Jr> jgarzik: so it's a work-in-progress?
754 2014-09-11 15:47:02 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, everything is a work in progress :)
755 2014-09-11 15:47:22 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, It is going to the printers for hardcopy, but the online PDF can still be updated if other errors are found.
756 2014-09-11 15:47:37 <Luke-Jr> i c
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759 2014-09-11 15:49:25 <Luke-Jr> bleh, they mislabel stale blocks as "orphaned blocks"
760 2014-09-11 15:50:33 <Luke-Jr> jgarzik: how do you even contact them?
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762 2014-09-11 15:52:09 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, (question just for clarification) so blocks on a weak chain are officially "stale blocks"? That is the name people use?
763 2014-09-11 15:53:18 <Luke-Jr> jgarzik: "orphaned blocks" is not a rare misterm, but properly speaking refers to blocks for which no parent block is known; the misuse of "orphaned blocks" seems to come from the orphaned *generation transaction* in bitcoind
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765 2014-09-11 15:54:04 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, that did not directly address the question...
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767 2014-09-11 15:54:21 <Luke-Jr> jgarzik: I'm not aware of any "official" term, but "stale blocks" is common and well-understood
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776 2014-09-11 16:02:12 <Luke-Jr> hard to answer a question about "official" when there is no such thing ;)
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1023 2014-09-11 20:16:00 <robertjw> I had an 'out of disk space' event yesterday and after clearing the space issue and restarting bitcoind I'm now getting "PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery" in db.log. What's the safest way to recover from this?
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1087 2014-09-11 21:04:58 <Strider_> hello
1088 2014-09-11 21:07:04 <Strider_> I am trying to use the blockchain.info RPC API
1089 2014-09-11 21:07:10 <Strider_> This is the response I am getting: http://nobanchan.com/btctest/index.php
1090 2014-09-11 21:07:41 <Strider_> what did I do wrong? I am using the bitcoin.inc wrapper linked to in thier API documentation, and using the constructor the way they show
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1092 2014-09-11 21:09:14 <Strider_> since you're all away, i will be lurking
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1096 2014-09-11 21:17:41 <michagogo> robertjw: what version of bitcoind, on what system?
1097 2014-09-11 21:17:52 <Strider_> ..
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1100 2014-09-11 21:18:12 <robertjw> bitcoin-0.9.1 on Fedora 20
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1103 2014-09-11 21:18:48 <robertjw> it looks like wallet.dat is corrupted, and my best alternative might be to regenerate it somehow
1104 2014-09-11 21:19:24 <michagogo> robertjw: hm. Db.log would suggest it's the wallet, yeah.
1105 2014-09-11 21:19:33 <robertjw> I have recorded my private key, and am now looking for a way to inject that private key into a freshly generated wallet.dat
1106 2014-09-11 21:19:33 <michagogo> Do you have backups?
1107 2014-09-11 21:20:01 <helo> robertjw: did you ever send any transactions, or only receive to a single address?
1108 2014-09-11 21:20:06 <michagogo> robertjw: unless you've only ever received once and never sent, there is more than one private key
1109 2014-09-11 21:20:31 <robertjw> I have received multiple times, but never sent
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1111 2014-09-11 21:20:39 <michagogo> robertjw: first thing, back up what you have now ASAP
1112 2014-09-11 21:20:47 <robertjw> already done
1113 2014-09-11 21:21:01 <michagogo> Do you have pre-corruption backups?
1114 2014-09-11 21:21:07 <robertjw> no
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1116 2014-09-11 21:21:26 <michagogo> Do you have the privkey for each address you received to?
1117 2014-09-11 21:22:38 <robertjw> I have recorded one private key (when wallet.dat was first generated) and I have a record of all public keys which were used to receive
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1119 2014-09-11 21:22:57 <michagogo> robertjw: each address has it's own private key
1120 2014-09-11 21:23:02 <robertjw> dang
1121 2014-09-11 21:23:08 <michagogo> You need the key for each and every address you received to
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1123 2014-09-11 21:23:41 <michagogo> Unfortunately, I know nothing about BDB and I can't give you any advice on recovering your wallet
1124 2014-09-11 21:23:56 <michagogo> (Or any idea whether it's even possible)
1125 2014-09-11 21:24:10 <mr_burdell> Strider_: I think your password is in plaintext
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1127 2014-09-11 21:24:23 <Strider_> it is in plaintext,
1128 2014-09-11 21:24:29 <robertjw> Then I'm stuck. I'm looking at the source now to see if I might be able to manually hexedit the file to find the keys
1129 2014-09-11 21:24:36 <Strider_> the API docs show me to do it as follows:
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1132 2014-09-11 21:25:02 <mr_burdell> wallet id and password encoded with base64?
1133 2014-09-11 21:25:17 <Strider_> function getConnection() {
1134 2014-09-11 21:25:18 <Strider_> $scheme = 'http';
1135 2014-09-11 21:25:18 <Strider_> $username = 'login key';
1136 2014-09-11 21:25:18 <Strider_> $password = 'password';
1137 2014-09-11 21:25:18 <Strider_> $addresss = 'rpc.blockchain.info';
1138 2014-09-11 21:25:18 <Strider_> $port = '80';
1139 2014-09-11 21:25:18 <Strider_> $certificate_path = '';
1140 2014-09-11 21:25:19 <Strider_> $debug_level = 2;
1141 2014-09-11 21:25:19 <Strider_> $btc = new BitcoinClient($scheme, $username, $password, $address = "localhost", $port = 80, $certificate_path, $debug_level);
1142 2014-09-11 21:25:20 <Strider_>
1143 2014-09-11 21:25:20 <Strider_> return $btc;
1144 2014-09-11 21:25:21 <Strider_> }
1145 2014-09-11 21:25:26 <Strider_> this is what I thought i was supposed to do
1146 2014-09-11 21:25:36 <mr_burdell> well, I hope you don't have funds in that wallet
1147 2014-09-11 21:25:48 <robertjw> 0.8 BTC
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1149 2014-09-11 21:26:03 <robertjw> Enough for me to spend some time to sort this out
1150 2014-09-11 21:26:28 <Apocalyptic> why don't people backup wallets is beyond me...
1151 2014-09-11 21:26:40 <Strider_> then from there, you take your connection to perform the methods from the BitcoinClient object. ex: $btc->getinfo();
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1153 2014-09-11 21:26:57 <Strider_> but, as you see, the getinfo() method is giving me that garbage response
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1156 2014-09-11 21:28:55 <mr_burdell> looks like it's encoded as gzip and then it decodes it as "page ok"
1157 2014-09-11 21:29:35 <Strider_> um,
1158 2014-09-11 21:29:41 <Strider_> lol i see that, i just have no idea why
1159 2014-09-11 21:29:45 <Strider_> i mean, im using the stock stuff
1160 2014-09-11 21:30:01 <michagogo> Strider_: do you have any funds in that wallet?
1161 2014-09-11 21:30:16 <phantomcircuit> Strider_, whatever you're doing
1162 2014-09-11 21:30:16 <robertjw> 0.8 BTC
1163 2014-09-11 21:30:17 <phantomcircuit> stahp
1164 2014-09-11 21:30:23 <Strider_> no sir. this is brand new stuff.
1165 2014-09-11 21:30:32 <michagogo> The http log you posted includes the wallet identifier and password in base64
1166 2014-09-11 21:30:34 <Strider_> zero finds.
1167 2014-09-11 21:30:46 <michagogo> You'll want to change wallets immediately.
1168 2014-09-11 21:30:54 <phantomcircuit> michagogo, plz2notencourage
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1170 2014-09-11 21:31:06 <Strider_> ill change it, but since theres nothing in it i might as well sort the problem out first
1171 2014-09-11 21:31:12 <michagogo> phantomcircuit: hm? There are no funds.
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1174 2014-09-11 21:32:14 <phantomcircuit> michagogo, this is wildly offtopic
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1186 2014-09-11 21:45:25 <Strider_> Yeah. no idea what the problem is.
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