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  73 2014-09-16 01:26:33 <dgenr8> I myself prefer unary.  happy 111111111111111 September, don't ask what year.
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  75 2014-09-16 01:29:50 <skinnkavaj> http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/97258629244/adept-ibm-samsung-bitcoin
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 130 2014-09-16 02:22:29 <jgarzik> Random:
 131 2014-09-16 02:22:44 <jgarzik> sipa, I say go ahead and clang-format a few infrequently-touched files
 132 2014-09-16 02:22:54 <jgarzik> have some examples in tree
 133 2014-09-16 02:23:17 <sipa> jgarzik: was planning to do that indeed
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 135 2014-09-16 02:23:41 <Luke-Jr> Is there any undefined behaviour in this? ~((1 << ((bytesleft ? bytesleft : 4) * 8)) - 1)
 136 2014-09-16 02:23:53 <Luke-Jr> GCC and LLVM are giving me opposite results :|
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 139 2014-09-16 02:30:02 <phantomcircuit> so
 140 2014-09-16 02:30:24 <sipa> stackoverflow?
 141 2014-09-16 02:30:43 <phantomcircuit> wallet with 630k outputs/590k spendable outputs
 142 2014-09-16 02:31:09 <phantomcircuit> sendmany with 1k addresses and randomly sized outputs takes ~60 seconds to generate
 143 2014-09-16 02:32:06 <phantomcircuit> afaict the only issue with huge wallets is load time and certain rpc calls timing out
 144 2014-09-16 02:32:13 <phantomcircuit> (listunspent being the prime example)
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 146 2014-09-16 02:33:43 <sipa> doesn't seem unreasonable
 147 2014-09-16 02:34:11 <phantomcircuit> sipa, nope seems entirely reasonable actually
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 149 2014-09-16 02:34:20 <phantomcircuit> im going to test some more of the rpc calls
 150 2014-09-16 02:34:30 <phantomcircuit> oh well actually
 151 2014-09-16 02:34:38 <phantomcircuit> 60 seconds is long enough that the rpc call times out
 152 2014-09-16 02:34:42 <phantomcircuit> which is a problem
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 154 2014-09-16 02:36:11 <x48> does anyone know a good source of aggregate historical exchange data?
 155 2014-09-16 02:36:34 <phantomcircuit> offtopic
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 157 2014-09-16 02:37:03 <x48> for #bitcoin then?
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 165 2014-09-16 02:52:40 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, what is the type of 'bytesleft'?
 166 2014-09-16 02:53:06 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, '1' is subject to implicit type conversion
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 193 2014-09-16 03:35:59 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, ...and possible range of bytesleft values?
 194 2014-09-16 03:38:28 <Luke-Jr> 0 1 2 3
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 198 2014-09-16 03:41:41 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, you might shift an 'int' 32 bits before doing other stuff
 199 2014-09-16 03:42:25 <Luke-Jr> well, I replaced it with bytesleft ? (0xffffffff << (bytesleft * 8)) : 0 which works, but it was curious that LLVM did weird stuff with the previous expression
 200 2014-09-16 03:42:48 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, not curious
 201 2014-09-16 03:42:59 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, undefined behavior
 202 2014-09-16 03:43:15 <Luke-Jr> the '1' type?
 203 2014-09-16 03:43:37 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, 1 is an int
 204 2014-09-16 03:43:41 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, 32 bits
 205 2014-09-16 03:43:58 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, what happens when you shift 0x00000001 32 bits left?
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 209 2014-09-16 03:44:39 <gwillen> you morally should get 0
 210 2014-09-16 03:44:42 <gwillen> but in C you get undefined
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 212 2014-09-16 03:44:46 <gwillen> because C hates you
 213 2014-09-16 03:44:48 <Luke-Jr> *8 = 0; - 1 = -1; ~ = 0
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 215 2014-09-16 03:44:53 <jrick> it's signed
 216 2014-09-16 03:45:09 <Luke-Jr> gwillen: shifting a 32-bit value 32 bits is undefined?
 217 2014-09-16 03:45:12 <gwillen> correct
 218 2014-09-16 03:45:24 <gwillen> see e.g. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2648764/whats-bad-about-shifting-a-32-bit-variable-32-bits
 219 2014-09-16 03:45:29 <jgarzik> in addition... it's an int
 220 2014-09-16 03:45:30 <jgarzik> signed
 221 2014-09-16 03:45:49 <Luke-Jr> I thought you could shift the full width, and beyond that was undefined. my bad
 222 2014-09-16 03:45:51 <gmaxwell> you're not allowed to shift a 1 into the 'sign position' in a signed number, nor are you ever allowed to shift beyond the size of the type. It's undefined, and the compiler is permitted to end the universe as a result.
 223 2014-09-16 03:46:01 <Luke-Jr> bleh
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 225 2014-09-16 03:46:54 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: well written C code should work on a ones compliment machine, if that makes it seem any more sensible to you.
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 232 2014-09-16 03:53:08 <earlz> So, could anyone in here help me with gitian?
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 240 2014-09-16 03:59:44 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, 0xffffffffU (unsigned int), 0xffffffffULL (unsigned long long) etc.
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 242 2014-09-16 04:00:19 <jgarzik> Luke-Jr, e.g. you can use "1ULL << ..."
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 252 2014-09-16 04:02:44 <fanquake> earlz What the question?
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 258 2014-09-16 04:04:51 <earlz> fanquake: havign trouble using bin/make-base-vm
 259 2014-09-16 04:04:52 <earlz> er
 260 2014-09-16 04:05:13 <earlz> make-clean-vm
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 262 2014-09-16 04:05:31 <earlz> I just get this back from it lxc-execute: No such file or directory - failed to exec /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/lxc/lxc-init
 263 2014-09-16 04:05:45 <earlz> I can get into the LXC VM though
 264 2014-09-16 04:06:42 <fanquake> That’ll be due to recent changes to gitian-builder, see https://github.com/devrandom/gitian-builder/blob/master/RELEASE_NOTES
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 274 2014-09-16 04:10:11 <earlz> wtf
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 276 2014-09-16 04:10:46 <earlz> and making a new VM doesn't automatically install it? that seems stupid
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 283 2014-09-16 04:13:31 <fanquake> I had the same issue this morning, didn’t dig much into it. If your gitian setup was already working, you could just checkout the gitian-builder source to the commit previous to the lxc execute merge.
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 288 2014-09-16 04:15:06 <earlz> it wasn't already working
 289 2014-09-16 04:15:18 <earlz> I tried going back a few commits and now I get more mystic errors
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 291 2014-09-16 04:15:27 <earlz> sudo: unable to resolve host debian
 292 2014-09-16 04:15:27 <earlz> stdin: is not a tty
 293 2014-09-16 04:15:33 <Luke-Jr> jgarzik: ah, didn't know ULL and such worked on hex
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 295 2014-09-16 04:15:45 * Luke-Jr <.< at his syntax highlighter
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 473 2014-09-16 05:13:29 <Luke-Jr> grr clang… http://dpaste.com/2K5M0MB
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 497 2014-09-16 05:24:42 <paveljanik> what is wrong with that? ;-)
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 499 2014-09-16 05:24:59 <paveljanik> I miss colors 8)
 500 2014-09-16 05:25:28 <Luke-Jr> paveljanik: seems the only safe, standard-compatible way to convert from int to size_t while detecting an overflow (ie, int is wider than size_t) is to cast it to uintmax_t :x
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 520 2014-09-16 05:32:21 <phantomcircuit> Luke-Jr, SIZE_MAX is for int
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 523 2014-09-16 05:32:37 <phantomcircuit> but yeah that warning is wrong
 524 2014-09-16 05:32:48 <Luke-Jr> paveljanik: yes, but I'm trying to get Travis to check my software with -Wall -Werror :p
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 735 2014-09-16 06:58:07 <warren>             return state.DoS(100, error("CheckBlockHeader() : block with too little proof-of-work"),
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 805 2014-09-16 07:55:59 <warren> OK, I'm curious why the peer is not disconnected in that case...
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 812 2014-09-16 07:59:11 <Luke-Jr> warren: git log tends to be insightful in general
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 830 2014-09-16 08:21:53 <warren> Anyone have the older signed alert messages saved anywhere?  I am testing changes pertaining to alert relaying.
 831 2014-09-16 08:23:14 <wumpus> warren: src/test/alert_tests has a few, also if you want to generate your own alert key for testing see https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4883
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 847 2014-09-16 08:32:23 <warren> wumpus: https://github.com/wtogami/bitcoin/commit/f137e32f90504be24aaa9a06ec0f7f28c61a2e12  does this look reasonable?  I am thinking to additionally add an option to set the MIN_PEER_PROTO_VERSION at startup instead of hard-coded.
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 851 2014-09-16 08:33:58 <wumpus> warren: looks fine to me; the only potential problem I see is if the alert protocol changes in an incompatible way
 852 2014-09-16 08:34:10 <wumpus> warren: why would you add an option for that?! 
 853 2014-09-16 08:34:19 <wumpus> MIN_PEER_PROTO_VERSION is for hard incompatibilities only
 854 2014-09-16 08:35:14 <wumpus> it's not something a user (that doesn't change the protocol code) has any business changing
 855 2014-09-16 08:35:32 <warren> If the user wants to discourage the use of obsolete client versions
 856 2014-09-16 08:35:44 <warren> It is also helpful in reducing log spam
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 858 2014-09-16 08:36:03 <warren> (lots of poorly coded alt coins)
 859 2014-09-16 08:36:10 <wumpus> it is not meant to 'discourage the use of obsolete client versions', any programs that talk a valid protocol should be accepted on the network IMO
 860 2014-09-16 08:36:19 <wumpus> there is more than just bitcoin core :)
 861 2014-09-16 08:36:22 <warren> hence it is an option
 862 2014-09-16 08:36:50 <warren> regarding "the only potential problem I see is if the alert protocol changes in an incompatible way" isn't that already a problem now?
 863 2014-09-16 08:37:21 <wumpus> warren: well that was only a minor remark as I see the chances of the alert protocol changing as very slim
 864 2014-09-16 08:37:53 <warren> will it be a problem on the receiving end to receive an alert message prior to the version negotiation?
 865 2014-09-16 08:38:05 <wumpus> only if the format of the alert messages changed
 866 2014-09-16 08:38:13 <wumpus> which, as I said, isn't really likely
 867 2014-09-16 08:38:49 <warren> OK, I'll submit just this patch for now.
 868 2014-09-16 08:39:51 <wumpus> but the protocol versioning is there to avoid problems with clients that just cannot communicate anymore with recent clients... it's not meant as an arbitrary option to discourage old clients, or something like that...also remember: protocol versions and client versions are disconnected
 869 2014-09-16 08:40:31 <warren> as you said, there's more than Bitcoin Core
 870 2014-09-16 08:40:44 <wumpus> yes
 871 2014-09-16 08:40:48 <warren> I personally find it useful to bump up the MIN_PEER_PROTO_VERSION on my nodes as it reduces log spam
 872 2014-09-16 08:41:58 <wumpus> toning down the amount of unecessary logging in those cases seems a better solution
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 874 2014-09-16 08:42:56 <warren> I rather not talk to bogus peers at all, I want that to be a personal choice.
 875 2014-09-16 08:42:58 <wumpus> if it is known that a certain old version creates a lot of spammy log messages, then there's something wrong with logging, as logging is about unexpected things
 876 2014-09-16 08:43:12 <wumpus> ok, keep it a personal patch then
 877 2014-09-16 08:43:25 <warren> well, nothing wrong with this above patch is there?
 878 2014-09-16 08:43:32 * Luke-Jr bumps 0.5.x branch to claim to be the latest proto version
 879 2014-09-16 08:43:51 <warren> Luke-Jr: you'll confuse bitcoinj =)
 880 2014-09-16 08:43:52 <wumpus> not that I'm aware of - I was talking about the option
 881 2014-09-16 08:44:05 <Luke-Jr> warren: good, maybe hearn can fix the bugs revealed
 882 2014-09-16 08:44:26 <warren> I don't think he wants to fix the bugs like "relies entirely on DNS seeds"
 883 2014-09-16 08:44:52 <Luke-Jr> warren: am I supposed to be concerned with this? :p
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1023 2014-09-16 11:28:44 <warren> wumpus: BTW, why does "ERROR: ProcessBlock() : block with too little proof-of-work" not disconnect the peer?
1024 2014-09-16 11:28:56 <warren> was this a conscious decision?
1025 2014-09-16 11:29:35 <wumpus> warren: I don't know
1026 2014-09-16 11:29:58 <wumpus> does it flag it as misbehavior at all? 
1027 2014-09-16 11:30:22 <warren>             return state.DoS(100, error("ProcessBlock() : block with too little proof-of-work"),
1028 2014-09-16 11:30:22 <warren>                              REJECT_INVALID, "bad-diffbits");
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1031 2014-09-16 11:31:00 <wumpus> a DoS of 100 is supposed to disconnect the peer
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1033 2014-09-16 11:31:07 <warren> I thought I was in master but it actually is in 0.9.3
1034 2014-09-16 11:31:13 <warren> the peer isn't disconnected after doing that
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1036 2014-09-16 11:31:34 <wumpus> (not immediately, but when it comes to the appropriate loop where fDisconnect is checked)
1037 2014-09-16 11:32:19 <warren> getpeerinfo shows banscore of 0 on that peer
1038 2014-09-16 11:32:26 <wumpus> that sounds like a possible bug, what is done with the state?
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1040 2014-09-16 11:32:51 <warren> AFAICT nothing actually checks nDoS after ProcessBlock
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1043 2014-09-16 11:33:36 <wumpus> right, state.DoS does not itself actually flag misbehavior
1044 2014-09-16 11:33:54 <warren> I'm tired, I'll look harder tomorrow.
1045 2014-09-16 11:34:24 <wumpus> there is usually a if (state.IsInvalid(nDoS)) { Misbehaving(node, nDos); } afterwards
1046 2014-09-16 11:34:51 <wumpus> if not then indeed it is just ignored (this is done on purpose in some cases, with dummy states)
1047 2014-09-16 11:35:43 <warren> banscore has nothing to do with DoS(), only Misbehaving?
1048 2014-09-16 11:35:48 <warren> why are they separate?
1049 2014-09-16 11:36:01 <wumpus> I just gave the reason ^
1050 2014-09-16 11:36:35 <warren> haven't seen this before:
1051 2014-09-16 11:36:37 <warren> 2014-09-16 09:47:28 UpdateTip: new best=00000000000000000aa1b9951862015e0fc35f2df69d75cea2fb296a9007f7d3  height=320949  log2_work=80.690339  tx=46812288  date=2014-09-16 09:47:21 progress=1.000000
1052 2014-09-16 11:36:37 <warren> 2014-09-16 09:56:51 ERROR: Non-canonical public key: neither compressed nor uncompressed
1053 2014-09-16 11:36:37 <warren> 2014-09-16 09:56:51 ERROR: Non-canonical public key: invalid length for uncompressed key
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1055 2014-09-16 11:36:46 <wumpus> sometimes you want to check without it having any consequences for a peer, note that a State object isn't even linked to a peer
1056 2014-09-16 11:37:11 <warren> we do keep track of where a block came from
1057 2014-09-16 11:37:19 <wumpus> I know that.
1058 2014-09-16 11:37:26 <warren> so i wonder if it would be appropriate to use Misbehaving() instead?
1059 2014-09-16 11:37:40 <wumpus> no, misbehaving should not be used *instead*
1060 2014-09-16 11:37:44 <wumpus> <wumpus> there is usually a if (state.IsInvalid(nDoS)) { Misbehaving(node, nDos); } afterwards
1061 2014-09-16 11:37:48 <wumpus> that's how it is done
1062 2014-09-16 11:38:09 <warren> should I be concerned about that non-canonical error?
1063 2014-09-16 11:38:20 <wumpus> so if it's supposed to have consequences for a node, you propagate the DoS from the state object into the node
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1065 2014-09-16 11:39:38 <wumpus> this is not always the case; it should be carefully evaluated if there is any risk that something could risk a network partitions
1066 2014-09-16 11:39:45 <wumpus> no, that's just someone submitting a junk transaction
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1068 2014-09-16 11:40:36 <wumpus> in general you shouldn't be concerned unless *locks fail to validate, loose transactions failing is normal
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1218 2014-09-16 14:31:29 <michagogo> dammit
1219 2014-09-16 14:31:45 <michagogo> wumpus: I took a closer look at the gitian changes
1220 2014-09-16 14:32:02 <michagogo> The change is to use lxc-execute instead of lxc-start
1221 2014-09-16 14:32:19 <michagogo> I don't know what the difference is and why the change was made
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1224 2014-09-16 14:32:49 <michagogo> But I now know this: it requires certain stuff to be available inside the container
1225 2014-09-16 14:33:18 <michagogo> make-base-vm was changed, so now it installs the `lxc` package in the base VM, which makes it work
1226 2014-09-16 14:34:09 <michagogo> It was breaking for me because lxc isn't installed in the base containers
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1231 2014-09-16 14:37:36 <michagogo> .whois devrandom devrandom
1232 2014-09-16 14:37:38 <michagogo> gah
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1238 2014-09-16 14:48:11 <michagogo> wumpus: would you have any idea how to add a package to the base VMs, as if it were there at the start?
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1442 2014-09-16 18:25:43 <gfawkes> Whois-output DOMAIN      jayneclaire.com Registrar:      JOKER.COM Status:      hold,expired Owner Name:      Jayne  Ochoa Organization:       Email:      jayne@jayneclaire.com Address:      18081 Midway Rd. Apt. #1121 Postal code/City:      75287 Dallas State:      TX Country:      US Administrative contact:      CCOM-502375 Technical contact:      CCOM-502375 Billing contact:      CCOM-502375 Nameserver:      a.ns.joker.com  b.ns.joker.com  c.n
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1444 2014-09-16 18:31:18 <catlasshrugged> Is leveldb's use of snprintf() is prone to an off-by-one overflow? They tend to use it e.g. snprintf(rate, sizeof(rate), ...) in db_bench.cc
1445 2014-09-16 18:31:35 <catlasshrugged> http://cwe.mitre.org/data/definitions/193.html
1446 2014-09-16 18:32:49 <sipa> no
1447 2014-09-16 18:33:02 <michagogo> Hm, how do you check out a Github PR locally?
1448 2014-09-16 18:33:15 <michagogo> I found https://help.github.com/articles/checking-out-pull-requests-locally, but I don't see a "command line" link
1449 2014-09-16 18:33:28 <michagogo> (on https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4727 )
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1451 2014-09-16 18:33:39 <sipa> put this in your .git/config:
1452 2014-09-16 18:33:40 <sipa> [remote "upstream-pull"] fetch = +refs/pull/*:refs/remotes/upstream-pull/* url = git@github.com:bitcoin/bitcoin.git
1453 2014-09-16 18:33:48 <sipa> (with proper newlines)
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1455 2014-09-16 18:34:07 <sipa> then git fetch upstream-pull
1456 2014-09-16 18:34:15 <sipa> git checkout upstream/NUM/head
1457 2014-09-16 18:34:15 <michagogo> What are the proper newlines?
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1461 2014-09-16 18:34:28 <sipa> [remote "upstream-pull"]
1462 2014-09-16 18:34:35 <catlasshrugged> sipa: why not?
1463 2014-09-16 18:34:43 <sipa>     fetch = +refs/pull/*:refs/remotes/upstream-pull/*
1464 2014-09-16 18:34:46 <sipa>     url = ...
1465 2014-09-16 18:34:56 <sipa> catlasshrugged: snprintf writes at most N bytes, including the terminating newline
1466 2014-09-16 18:34:57 <michagogo> sipa: thanks
1467 2014-09-16 18:35:10 <sipa> perhaps a tab instead of 4 spaces
1468 2014-09-16 18:35:18 <michagogo> sipa: hm, you put spaces in there, but it looks like the file uses tabs
1469 2014-09-16 18:35:24 <sipa> so use tabs!
1470 2014-09-16 18:35:36 <michagogo> Does that just go at the end?
1471 2014-09-16 18:35:41 <sipa> anywhere
1472 2014-09-16 18:35:48 <michagogo> Okay, thanks
1473 2014-09-16 18:35:52 * michagogo tries
1474 2014-09-16 18:36:47 <michagogo> sipa: git@github.com? I thought GH was accessed with https://github.com?
1475 2014-09-16 18:36:54 <catlasshrugged> sipa: ah, thanks. Guess that MITRE page is out of date/incorrect.
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1479 2014-09-16 18:37:55 <sipa> catlasshrugged: no, it's correct, but the problem there in that example is with the strcat, not snprintf
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1481 2014-09-16 18:40:10 <michagogo> 21:27:38 <sipa> git checkout upstream/NUM/head
1482 2014-09-16 18:40:10 <michagogo> not upstream-pull?
1483 2014-09-16 18:40:54 <catlasshrugged> sipa: got it. thanks.
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1486 2014-09-16 18:41:23 <sipa> michagogo: indeed
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1535 2014-09-16 19:36:18 <michagogo> coryfields: there?
1536 2014-09-16 19:37:01 <michagogo> coryfields: what do I give to gbuild's --commit?
1537 2014-09-16 19:37:20 <michagogo> (testing 4727)
1538 2014-09-16 19:37:48 <jgarzik> New full node
1539 2014-09-16 19:37:51 <jgarzik> https://github.com/coinbase/toshi
1540 2014-09-16 19:37:57 <jgarzik> Ruby + Postgres
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1543 2014-09-16 19:38:18 <jgarzik> it's built to power large, web-scale applications.
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1545 2014-09-16 19:39:50 <jrick> I was under the impression that postgres was too ACID for webscale
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1567 2014-09-16 20:11:01 <potatowedge> **noob alert** Multisig: Is it possible to determine how many authenticated private keys are required to unlock funds from only one multisignature public address?
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1570 2014-09-16 20:13:10 <Luke-Jr> potatowedge: that doesn't make sense.
1571 2014-09-16 20:13:38 <Luke-Jr> from the blockchain, you don't know anything about a P2SH address until it's spent
1572 2014-09-16 20:13:46 <Luke-Jr> you don't even know it's multisig
1573 2014-09-16 20:14:17 <Luke-Jr> what is the "public" qualifier to "address" supposed to mean to you?
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1575 2014-09-16 20:14:39 <sipa> as opposed to the private keys, i assume
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1577 2014-09-16 20:15:39 <sipa> but indeed, the answer is "intentionally, no"
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1589 2014-09-16 20:31:34 <potatowedge> Sorry if I am a noob about this. What I'm trying to ask is if I have a P2SH "public" address which requires m-of-n signatures to unlock; can I determine 'm' from only the Bitcoin URI?
1590 2014-09-16 20:32:11 <potatowedge> Such as 2 out of three to unlock, where m=2.
1591 2014-09-16 20:32:32 <sipa> no
1592 2014-09-16 20:32:41 <potatowedge> Thanks :)
1593 2014-09-16 20:32:46 <sipa> the p2sh address is the hash of the script
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1596 2014-09-16 20:32:57 <sipa> it is impossible to determine the script from the hash
1597 2014-09-16 20:33:42 <potatowedge> Thanks sipa.
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1661 2014-09-16 22:04:26 <cotix> why does bitcoin core download the blockchain so slow? I know it is an intensive operation, but 1 blocke per ~10-20 seconds? cmon
1662 2014-09-16 22:04:55 <sipa> it probably means it's just fetching it from a slow peer
1663 2014-09-16 22:05:13 <sipa> the next release will improve the block fetching logic significantly
1664 2014-09-16 22:05:24 <cotix> it also stops downloading after awhile and doesn start untill i restart bitcoind
1665 2014-09-16 22:05:27 <cotix> great
1666 2014-09-16 22:05:45 <cotix> such a pain that i need a week of downloading and restarting even with 1gbits symmetric
1667 2014-09-16 22:06:01 <sipa> should be doable in a few hours
1668 2014-09-16 22:06:24 <sipa> you can use bootstrap.dat, or use -connect=IP to a fast node to speed things up
1669 2014-09-16 22:06:39 <cotix> ill try that connect thing
1670 2014-09-16 22:07:02 <sipa> boostrap.dat is a file you fetch using bittorrent and then have bitcoin load it
1671 2014-09-16 22:07:13 <sipa> it means more temporary storage
1672 2014-09-16 22:07:17 <Happzz> implement bittorrent for blockchain syncing!
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1674 2014-09-16 22:07:57 <sipa> Happzz: we have parallel block fetching implemented, which is superior to bittorrent as it verifies on the fly without needing 25 GB storage temporary data before starting validation
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1676 2014-09-16 22:08:12 <gmaxwell> cotix: I can sync the whole chain from a gigabit connected peer in 2 hours 17 minutes.
1677 2014-09-16 22:08:32 <cotix> That's odly specific time haha
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1679 2014-09-16 22:08:37 <Happzz> sipa you guys seriously need to think about some way to reduce the amount of data nodes use
1680 2014-09-16 22:08:42 <cotix> I'll try the connect thing, maybe just some bad luck
1681 2014-09-16 22:08:48 <Happzz> sipa especially in circumstances where they dont care about the whole history of a coin
1682 2014-09-16 22:09:01 <midnightmagic> cotix: try #bitcoin next time for questions like that.
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1684 2014-09-16 22:09:33 <cotix> Also I dissabled ipv6 because I thought that might have to do with it, can I put that back on or should i stay on ipv4?
1685 2014-09-16 22:10:00 <midnightmagic> cotix: #bitcoin please.
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1741 2014-09-16 22:55:29 <rrose> Hi, anyone got some experience with testnet in a box on OSX?
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