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   2 2014-09-30 00:03:04 <Luke-Jr> yeah, boost isn't C at all\
   3 2014-09-30 00:03:58 <earlz> boost isn't C? non sense!
   4 2014-09-30 00:03:59 <earlz> :)
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   6 2014-09-30 00:05:53 <Luke-Jr> anyhow, I think I figured out *why* there isn't: lack of good-idea use cases :D
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  50 2014-09-30 00:54:32 <jtimon> petertodd I proposed verifying backards verification earlier, not sure if I was the first one though https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204283.msg2155915#msg2155915
  51 2014-09-30 00:55:24 <jgarzik> http://www.coindesk.com/early-bitcoin-adopter-calls-multi-sig-solutions-750-btc-theft/
  52 2014-09-30 00:55:27 <jgarzik> How???
  53 2014-09-30 00:55:34 <jgarzik> Did he not encrypt his wallet?
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  58 2014-09-30 01:03:27 <jtimon> at the very least we need to move to cpp v11 before being able to away from boost, no?
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  60 2014-09-30 01:04:00 <sipa> at the very least, yes
  61 2014-09-30 01:04:03 <moa> hacker was only able to remotely get read access to my home directory  (which had numerous unencrypted backups) or whether there’s a customised  root kit avoiding detection and logging my every keystroke
  62 2014-09-30 01:04:03 <moa> MacOSX
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  64 2014-09-30 01:04:43 <jgarzik> No clue why people are suddenly saying "750 BTC stolen due to shellshock"
  65 2014-09-30 01:04:50 <jgarzik> I don't see it
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  67 2014-09-30 01:05:11 <moa> mmm, might be convenient "boating accident" story for all we know
  68 2014-09-30 01:05:37 <sipa> jtimon: i think gmaxwell has been proposing backward verifications for... years?
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  74 2014-09-30 01:08:35 <jtimon> that tends to happen with many proposals that's why I never took credit for that since that seemed kind of obvious to me
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  77 2014-09-30 01:09:10 <sipa> jtimon: https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=User:Gmaxwell/Reverse_header-fetching_sync&oldid=23445
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  83 2014-09-30 01:12:13 <gmaxwell> it was even old when I posted that; but it needs a protocol change
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  94 2014-09-30 01:18:57 <Gnosis> does Bitcoin use RAND_bytes in a thread-safe manner on all platforms?
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  97 2014-09-30 01:19:26 <sipa> yes
  98 2014-09-30 01:19:38 <sipa> openssl does its own locking
  99 2014-09-30 01:19:58 <sipa> or rather, you tell openssl how to acquire locks, with help from the application
 100 2014-09-30 01:21:13 <Gnosis> ah, I see. Where in the code does it tell openssl about this? I found no occurrences of CRYPTO_THREADID_set_callback
 101 2014-09-30 01:21:44 <sipa> CRYPTO_set_locking_callback in util.cpp
 102 2014-09-30 01:22:09 <Gnosis> ahh, thanks!
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 224 2014-09-30 04:48:34 <petertodd> jtimon: cool, though you're idea is a bit different than mine: I'm proposing to build up the UTXO set starting from nothing in reverse order, you're proposing to validate a untrusted UTXO set
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 226 2014-09-30 04:48:48 <petertodd> jtimon: but yeah, all varients of similar ideas
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 230 2014-09-30 04:49:58 <petertodd> jtimon: I am at least fairly confident the "catchy" name "partial UTXO set mode" or "partial mode" for short is original :P
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 233 2014-09-30 04:58:53 <jtimon> well, I'm saying that in the context of a committed utxo, so it's not really completely untrusted
 234 2014-09-30 04:59:36 <sipa> right, seems everyone is talking about pretty different things
 235 2014-09-30 04:59:46 <sipa> just shows there is a lot of potential there :)
 236 2014-09-30 05:02:36 <jtimon> right, I think it would be really useful to define more "levels of validation" than full node and spv
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 288 2014-09-30 06:29:18 <brisque> jgarzik: the "750BTC stolen by shellshock" thing is going to need some serious FUD repellant. I spoke to the user in #bitcoin (check the log for details) at some length and to me it didn't appear to be anything like that. it's blamed without reason.
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 290 2014-09-30 06:31:14 <brisque> jgarzik: they were using a very old (keys were uncompressed point type, so the wallet.dat was extremely old and had never been encrypted. as far as I can find there's no suggestion that a default OSX setup has anything openly vulnerable to shellshock either.
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 292 2014-09-30 06:32:08 <brisque> er that sentence doesn't make sense, sorry. you get the gist though. old wallet that might have been backed up in god knows what insecure places.
 293 2014-09-30 06:33:10 <benrcole> where has the loss been attributed to shellshock?
 294 2014-09-30 06:33:36 <brisque> http://www.coindesk.com/early-bitcoin-adopter-calls-multi-sig-solutions-750-btc-theft/
 295 2014-09-30 06:33:49 <benrcole> Doesnt thay say 'after reading about it , I checked my bitcoin' ?
 296 2014-09-30 06:34:03 <benrcole> not ' because of shellshock - I lost my bitcoin?'
 297 2014-09-30 06:34:37 <benrcole> granted ther'll be FUD anyway but I didnt connect the two directly…
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 299 2014-09-30 06:35:16 <brisque> in the lastlog it was suggested that the connection was made, but I don't know where.
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 452 2014-09-30 10:22:08 <chichov> is there any difference when serializing a transaction between SER_DISK and SER_NETWORK?
 453 2014-09-30 10:22:25 <phantomcircuit> sipa, ^
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 624 2014-09-30 13:48:07 <maraoz> I need ~50 testnet coins to fix a bug that only happens for tx outputs > 100 btc. can anyone spare some test coins? ms53WnNZohQzXs16AssNLxFvLcKNunnEyQ (thanks)
 625 2014-09-30 13:49:07 <hearn> that sounds like a job for regtest mode
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 634 2014-09-30 13:56:30 <maraoz> thanks to whoever sent me the coins :)
 635 2014-09-30 13:56:45 <maraoz> and hearn: I'll check that, thanks!!
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 776 2014-09-30 16:56:59 <wumpus> chichov: no, there is no difference for transactions/blocks for SER_DISK and SER_NETWORK. Only CAddress is different between both...
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 805 2014-09-30 17:28:32 <gmaxwell> from the rust mailing list,
 806 2014-09-30 17:28:33 <gmaxwell> "I've been told by LLVM folks that getting LLVM to do constant time code generation is essentially hopeless, and it should just be written in asm. One could start by compiling with LLVM, then hand-inspecting the output."
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 878 2014-09-30 18:55:09 <maraoz> I'm trying to run the bitcoin.org site locally and all pages except the home page are throwing 404's. Any idea what I could be doing wrong?
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 880 2014-09-30 18:56:02 <maraoz> btw is it OK if I submit a PR to add Copay to https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet or is someone in charge of doing that?
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 886 2014-09-30 19:05:16 <hearn> maraoz: is copay a wallet people can actually use?
 887 2014-09-30 19:05:27 <hearn> maraoz: my understanding was it's basically a web app that requires a full block explorer
 888 2014-09-30 19:05:39 <hearn> maraoz: if there's a hosted version then maybe. otherwise it's more a tool for sysadmins and developers
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 892 2014-09-30 19:06:41 <maraoz> there's a hosted demo instance: https://copay.io/
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 900 2014-09-30 19:16:18 <Happzz> i have my testnet wallet synced up fully, and it cant find txid N
 901 2014-09-30 19:16:26 <Happzz> while test-insight.bitpay.com can see it
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 903 2014-09-30 19:16:37 <Happzz> my wallet can see newer txs than N, too
 904 2014-09-30 19:17:15 <Happzz> error: {"code":-5,"message":"No information available about transaction"}
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 907 2014-09-30 19:19:44 <Happzz> my bitcoind has     "chain" : "test",
 908 2014-09-30 19:19:44 <Happzz>     "blocks" : 282091,
 909 2014-09-30 19:20:11 <Happzz> the tx it cant find was included in block 204292
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 974 2014-09-30 20:29:04 <sipa> Happzz: you need to run with -txindex if you want getrawtransaction to find arbitrary transactions
 975 2014-09-30 20:29:12 <sipa> by default, bitcoind only keeps track of unspent transactions
 976 2014-09-30 20:29:49 <sipa> and gettransaction only works for your own wallet
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1059 2014-09-30 22:44:17 <firelegend> Let me grab a pen and paper to solve those.
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1131 2014-09-30 23:59:06 <lechuga_> lol@new pulltester comments
1132 2014-09-30 23:59:17 <lechuga_> https://github.com/TheBlueMatt/test-scripts/blob/45af728179bfc38ccd8321ab2dacfced415f829a/FullBlockTestGenerator.java#L33-L34
1133 2014-09-30 23:59:25 <lechuga_> debugging those tests really isnt all that difficult
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