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 109 2014-10-05 02:11:15 <gmaxwell> 18:55 < brisque> bitnodes.io is worse than blockchain.info in terms of client spam though. they are very rapid in their connections and flood constantly.
 110 2014-10-05 02:11:18 <gmaxwell> 18:56 < brisque> they now do this fucking stupid thing where they connect, dump your mempool, then dc, wait a few seconds, and do it again
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 119 2014-10-05 02:21:55 <jgarzik> gmaxwell, brisque, ya, I've pondering writing a rate limiting patch specifically for that site
 120 2014-10-05 02:22:15 <jgarzik> "I don't want to see any node more than once per 60 secs"
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 122 2014-10-05 02:22:38 <jgarzik> constant reconnection is annoying
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 124 2014-10-05 02:23:07 <jgarzik> sucks for sockets, poor network behavior for a variety of reasons, potentially uses connection slots someone needs in a crunch, ...
 125 2014-10-05 02:23:30 <gmaxwell> yea, I think we should say "a non-whitelisted node that reconnects within X seconds since being disconnected is banned" with x at some reasonable value like 30 or 60 seconds.
 126 2014-10-05 02:24:07 <gmaxwell> coupled with some random disconnections here and there some of the huge socket wasters will have to chose less abusive strategies.
 127 2014-10-05 02:24:43 <gmaxwell> We also need something to deal with the "transfers oodles of data, never does anything useful for us at all" but I haven't come up with a crisp and safe policy for that.
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 131 2014-10-05 02:31:11 <kanzure> what about rating connected peers, culling low performers periodically where reconnects would require them to rebuild their peer score?
 132 2014-10-05 02:32:10 <kanzure> giving worse service to low scoring peers would be bad for newly-connecting nodes (various sybil issues too), so that wont work. hrm.
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 136 2014-10-05 02:32:48 <glassem> What does a miner do if they receive a transaction referencing a transaction hash they don't know about yet?
 137 2014-10-05 02:33:24 <kanzure> isn't that the same as referencing any other non-existing input?
 138 2014-10-05 02:33:50 <glassem> Uh, I'm a noob
 139 2014-10-05 02:33:55 <glassem> what happens in that case? :P
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 142 2014-10-05 02:37:08 <Luke-Jr> glassem: it gets stored in a cache and ignored
 143 2014-10-05 02:37:20 <Luke-Jr> until/unless a transaction is received satisfying it
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 145 2014-10-05 02:38:23 <glassem> what if they are mutually dependent?
 146 2014-10-05 02:39:31 <Ireneista> the relevant code which would have the responsibilty for detecting a cycle in the transaction graph is the function starting at https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/3fd192f8b4d6db386354dfe635a8a6a105b55de8/src/miner.cpp#L78
 147 2014-10-05 02:39:35 <Ireneista> but it’s not clear to me whether it does so :)
 148 2014-10-05 02:39:41 <Ireneista> it would be “cute” ><
 149 2014-10-05 02:39:48 <Luke-Jr> glassem: let me know when you have a test case for that..
 150 2014-10-05 02:40:24 <glassem> oooh
 151 2014-10-05 02:40:25 <glassem> right
 152 2014-10-05 02:40:27 <Luke-Jr> :p
 153 2014-10-05 02:40:36 <glassem> hey, it's totally computable
 154 2014-10-05 02:40:42 <Luke-Jr> …
 155 2014-10-05 02:40:44 <Luke-Jr> no, it isn't.
 156 2014-10-05 02:40:45 <glassem> tractability is a triviality
 157 2014-10-05 02:41:02 <Luke-Jr> the transactions would need to have the hash of the other in them
 158 2014-10-05 02:41:08 <glassem> yeah
 159 2014-10-05 02:41:09 <Luke-Jr> you'd need to break SHA256d pretty bad to do it
 160 2014-10-05 02:41:16 <glassem> that's still computable
 161 2014-10-05 02:41:20 <glassem> just not tractable
 162 2014-10-05 02:41:29 <Luke-Jr> I mean, you couldn't even do it if we were using MD5
 163 2014-10-05 02:41:31 <Ireneista> lol ><
 164 2014-10-05 02:41:44 <Ireneista> well, that’s a strong statement, MD5 is pretty broken :)
 165 2014-10-05 02:41:50 <Ireneista> you’re right, they’d have to reference each other by hash
 166 2014-10-05 02:41:50 <Luke-Jr> not THAT broken
 167 2014-10-05 02:41:54 <Ireneista> it would take a lot of compute time
 168 2014-10-05 02:42:02 * Ireneista shrugs
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 170 2014-10-05 02:42:16 <Ireneista> yeah, we were discussing this amusing possibility elsewhere and thought we’d bring it here
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 172 2014-10-05 02:42:28 <Luke-Jr> "a lot" being more time than the universe has existed..
 173 2014-10-05 02:42:51 <Ireneista> under present assumptions, yeah
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 175 2014-10-05 02:43:00 <Ireneista> I agree that it can’t be done right now :)
 176 2014-10-05 02:43:09 <Ireneista> sorry, I don’t really want to troll
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 180 2014-10-05 02:46:01 <Ireneista> thank you for educating us :)
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 212 2014-10-05 03:11:45 <coinheavy> Is it just a rumor that there was an initial bug for ~2 years that allowed anyone to spend anyone else's coins?  (I can't find the source but I recall it being found and patched without ever being exploited)
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 217 2014-10-05 03:15:56 <justanotheruser> coinheavy: not sure about 2 years, but yeah
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 219 2014-10-05 03:16:07 <justanotheruser> it would have to be softforked immediately if someone did double-spend
 220 2014-10-05 03:16:46 <coinheavy> justanotheruser: thanks for confirming.  I can't seem to find the post on bitcointalk and I haven't had much luck looking through commits/releases on github.  Any idea where I might find more info?
 221 2014-10-05 03:17:01 <glassem> why isn't there an organized system for bribing miners to boycott a transaction?
 222 2014-10-05 03:17:18 <justanotheruser> I tried to find info on it. I remember reading on the dev list someone mentioning
 223 2014-10-05 03:17:21 <justanotheruser> I'll try to find it
 224 2014-10-05 03:17:34 <coinheavy> justanotheruser: much appreciated
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 228 2014-10-05 03:18:28 <justanotheruser> coinheavy: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Common_Vulnerabilities_and_Exposures#CVE-2010-5141
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 230 2014-10-05 03:19:25 <coinheavy> justanotheruser: cheers -- that's the one!
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 281 2014-10-05 04:38:29 <prettymuchbryce> Anyone know where I can find an up-to-date list of the opcode's still accepted by the majority of nodes ?
 282 2014-10-05 04:39:07 <Luke-Jr> prettymuchbryce: opcodes are not a matter of majority.
 283 2014-10-05 04:39:43 <justanotheruser> Luke-Jr: they're a matter of miner majorty
 284 2014-10-05 04:39:49 <Luke-Jr> nope
 285 2014-10-05 04:39:59 <prettymuchbryce> Can you explain your thinking Luke-Jr ?
 286 2014-10-05 04:40:13 <justanotheruser> Luke-Jr: miners can softfork out opcodes or softfork in opcodes within OP_EVA?L
 287 2014-10-05 04:40:19 <Luke-Jr> prettymuchbryce: opcodes are dictated by consensus, so 100% of nodes must agree on them or it doesn't work
 288 2014-10-05 04:42:58 <sipa> in blocks
 289 2014-10-05 04:43:09 <prettymuchbryce> Luke-Jr Nodes send transactions to each other via the inv message, but if they receive a tx which they determine has an invalid opcode via !::IsStandard. Then the transaction won't be relayed to peers.
 290 2014-10-05 04:43:13 <sipa> for lone transaction individuao nodes may have different rules
 291 2014-10-05 04:43:36 <Luke-Jr> prettymuchbryce: IsStandard has no relationship with validity or invalidity of opcodes
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 293 2014-10-05 04:45:40 <justanotheruser> well isstandard should always be a subset of isvalid
 294 2014-10-05 04:47:08 <sipa> actually, not at all
 295 2014-10-05 04:47:31 <sipa> isstandard is just a quick bailout before validation of a transaction is even attempted
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 297 2014-10-05 04:47:48 <sipa> but there are many more rules that affect whether a transaction is relayed
 298 2014-10-05 04:47:54 <sipa> beyond isstandard and validity
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 300 2014-10-05 04:48:05 <sipa> like throttling low-fee transactions
 301 2014-10-05 04:48:19 <sipa> or double spends (which are technically valid) are ignored
 302 2014-10-05 04:48:26 <Luke-Jr> and noteworthy: developers should not base decisions on whether the transaction they create passes IsStandard or not
 303 2014-10-05 04:49:07 <sipa> prettymuchbryce: to answer your actual question: in p2sh nearly everything is allowed these days
 304 2014-10-05 04:49:34 <sipa> though i don't think the majority of nodes are new enough
 305 2014-10-05 04:50:10 <prettymuchbryce> Sorry. I'm struggling to remember the actual reject error at the moment. Maybe it is check() (non-canonical).
 306 2014-10-05 04:50:15 <Luke-Jr> sipa: 0.9.3 didn't change that, did it?
 307 2014-10-05 04:50:23 <prettymuchbryce> And yes I am potentially talking about non-p2sh.
 308 2014-10-05 04:50:29 <Luke-Jr> prettymuchbryce: be sure then ;)
 309 2014-10-05 04:50:34 <Luke-Jr> non-canonical is a bigger deal
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 494 2014-10-05 09:36:08 <dabura667> Luke-Jr: What does "TBC" mean? tera-bitcoin? or tera-satoshi? or something else?
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 496 2014-10-05 09:36:39 <Apocalyptic> probably Tonal Bitcoin
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 498 2014-10-05 09:38:28 <dabura667> oh ok
 499 2014-10-05 09:38:32 <dabura667> I see the wiki now.
 500 2014-10-05 09:38:35 <dabura667> Thanks
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 521 2014-10-05 10:15:05 <visiteur_1> if you are well off and healthy please consider to make a donation and please spread it :) https://secure.changa.co.ke/myweb/share/3050
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 602 2014-10-05 11:51:59 <xiando> Hi, I "upgraded" bitcoind on gentoo and a new use flag called ljr was enabled by default described as "Enable Luke Dashjr's patches". Now I get errors in the log saying AcceptToMemoryPool : ignoring transaction 289673d37df1a709829b3f3ea7b8549703f4251f26f5721863aacbccc47b95a9 with blacklisted output (SatoshiDice)
 603 2014-10-05 11:52:10 <hearn> er
 604 2014-10-05 11:52:20 <hearn> xiando: gentoo is patching bitcoin core with luke's patches *by default*?
 605 2014-10-05 11:52:22 <xiando> recompiling without the -stupidnazi useflag now, but just to be clear, this is the patches not the official client right?
 606 2014-10-05 11:52:30 <xiando> hearn: yes
 607 2014-10-05 11:52:35 <hearn> xiando: please please please do not use bitcoin packages from linux distros
 608 2014-10-05 11:52:46 <hearn> xiando: it's always better to obtain it from upstream.
 609 2014-10-05 11:53:37 <hearn> that's no good at all. they're forking it without renaming it.
 610 2014-10-05 11:53:39 <xiando> I see your point but if you apply that logic to your whole system then you're in for a full-time job maintaining it. Some of us actually use our computers for things
 611 2014-10-05 11:54:16 <xiando> anyway, just to confirm, this will be fixed when recompiling without the fascistidiotspatches use flag right?
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 614 2014-10-05 11:55:43 <hearn> we all use our computers for things ;) people who don't use linux still manage to be productive. anyway, i have no idea what that ebuild will do, but the fact that it's making such changes by default suggests it'd be better to stay away from it entirely. if they want to distribute a bitcoind with patches like luke's (which change behaviour in quite some fundamental ways) then they should do a proper upstream fork with a new name, so
 615 2014-10-05 11:55:43 <hearn>  you are always sure what you're getting.
 616 2014-10-05 11:57:31 <xiando> Oh now I see. I have the "bitcoin" overlay enabled and guess who owns that https://gitorious.org/bitcoin/gentoo/community
 617 2014-10-05 11:58:15 <xiando> I guess it is better to just use the 0.9.2 in the official portage tree, then. Someone willing to censor payments is probably willing to do all sorts of other evil :-/
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 621 2014-10-05 12:03:23 <xiando> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524512
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 623 2014-10-05 12:03:46 <xiando> It apperas that the default gentoo portage tree now has 0.9.3 and yes it enables the breakbitcoin useflag
 624 2014-10-05 12:04:32 <xiando> perhaps gentoo developers don't know or they are short and therefore want bitcoin to be worthless (which it is the moment you for example say that you can pay for a bible but not the korean because we "don't like it")
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 653 2014-10-05 13:27:05 <vual> Hi there, sillly question maybe but i was going soo well..... how can i convert a "bitcoin address" to a "CTxDestination" in the bitcoin code?
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 655 2014-10-05 13:28:03 <vual> ok no that dosnt make sense
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 659 2014-10-05 13:29:46 <vual> well i was taking a "address string" and wanting to get the balance of it in the QT cpp code, so i made a map<CTxDestination, int64> and i passed it the output from wallet->GetAddressBalances() now i want to access it with the "address string" ie varible[CTxDestination]....
 660 2014-10-05 13:30:04 <vual> does this make any sense? ..... sorry in advance if not
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 662 2014-10-05 13:32:13 <vual> anyone ?
 663 2014-10-05 13:35:01 <vual> well yell out if anyone can take 5min to teach me where i missundertand what im doing here ill tip some btc for your time thank you
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 672 2014-10-05 13:50:50 <wumpus> vual: CTxDestination CBitcoinAddres.Get() maybe?
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 675 2014-10-05 13:51:50 <wumpus> defined in base58.h
 676 2014-10-05 13:52:39 <vual> ok so CBitcoinAddress
 677 2014-10-05 13:52:48 <vual> how can i convert address string to CBitcoinAddress
 678 2014-10-05 13:54:07 <wumpus> CBitcoinAddress(string)
 679 2014-10-05 13:54:50 <wumpus> you could have found that easily by looking at the class declaration
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 682 2014-10-05 13:56:08 <vual> thank you
 683 2014-10-05 13:56:18 <vual> easily?
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 685 2014-10-05 13:56:39 <vual> tech me how please, how to do this, easily.
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 687 2014-10-05 13:57:14 <wumpus> well you search for CBitcoinAddress, which as I said is defined in base58.h ,then you see it has a constructor CBitcoinAddress(const std::string& strAddress) { SetString(strAddress); }
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 689 2014-10-05 13:58:01 <vual> ok
 690 2014-10-05 13:58:04 <vual> but tahts not commited
 691 2014-10-05 13:58:15 <vual> but yes ty i see what you mean
 692 2014-10-05 13:58:21 <vual> *commented
 693 2014-10-05 13:58:42 <vual> i appreciate the help thanks for that
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 699 2014-10-05 14:15:31 <Eliel> function and variable names themselves are a light form of documentation.
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 707 2014-10-05 14:36:04 <vual> thanks
 708 2014-10-05 14:36:29 <vual> any idea about /usr/include/boost/thread/pthread/recursive_mutex.hpp:110: void boost::recursive_mutex::lock(): Assertion `!pthread_mutex_lock(&m)' failed. ? my code is :
 709 2014-10-05 14:36:38 <vual> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GzCmO8oP
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 720 2014-10-05 14:54:50 <vual> its balanceMap = wallet->GetAddressBalances(); thats giving the error
 721 2014-10-05 14:55:01 <vual> when that line is commented out all works fine
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 724 2014-10-05 14:59:01 <wumpus> does using the listaddressgroupings RPC call also result in the same error?
 725 2014-10-05 14:59:28 <wumpus> (its the primary user of GetAddressBalances)
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 760 2014-10-05 15:54:35 <Luke-Jr> xiando: so you're just trolling, or something is actually broken?
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 762 2014-10-05 15:56:38 <xiando> error message does say txes are rejected because you consider addresses bad, right
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 767 2014-10-05 15:59:08 <xiando> I am curious, what other kinds of addresses do you feel like blacklisting in the near future? those belonging to gay groups? religions you don't like? porn actors? political parties you disagree with?
 768 2014-10-05 15:59:51 <Luke-Jr> ok, so you're just trolling
 769 2014-10-05 16:00:04 <Luke-Jr> wrong channel for that, try ##trolls or something
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 771 2014-10-05 16:05:10 <xiando> ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool : ignoring transaction                289673d37df1a709829b3f3ea7b8549703f4251f26f5721863aacbccc47b95a9 with blacklisted output (SatoshiDice)  <- explain this
 772 2014-10-05 16:05:15 <xiando> What is a "blacklisted output"
 773 2014-10-05 16:05:49 <Luke-Jr> xiando: one identified by a particular script
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 775 2014-10-05 16:07:28 <xiando> is that your patches or the official client?
 776 2014-10-05 16:07:45 <Luke-Jr> xiando: there is no such thing as official
 777 2014-10-05 16:07:58 <Luke-Jr> xiando: your questions seem more along the lines of #bitcoin material than development
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 779 2014-10-05 16:08:39 <xiando> Alright, then, the bitcoin-qt as in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
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 783 2014-10-05 16:09:54 <Luke-Jr> that feature is part of my patchset, which you can see on https://github.com/luke-jr/bitcoin/tree/0.9.x-ljr
 784 2014-10-05 16:10:30 <xiando> If you can get your patches into that one then do it, if you can not and want to make it optional for people to get them then fine. If you can't get it in there then the right thing to do is not to force them upon gentoo users because you happen to have a position of power there and pretend it's the same client as everyone else gets
 785 2014-10-05 16:10:48 <Luke-Jr> nobody is being forced to do anything
 786 2014-10-05 16:11:01 <Luke-Jr> if you're going back to trolling, again see ##trolls
 787 2014-10-05 16:13:09 <xiando> I see. Do you claim you are not forcing your patchset upon people because you believe the line IUSE="$IUSE 1stclassmsg dbus kde +ljr +qrcode test upnp" doe snot enable ljr by default due to there being a + there? Or are you just lying?
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 789 2014-10-05 16:14:27 <Luke-Jr> I'm not going to respond to further trolling. If you have more honest user questions, you can ask those in #bitcoin.
 790 2014-10-05 16:16:00 <jaakkos> that is such horseshit. it's useless trying to negotiate with him.
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 792 2014-10-05 16:16:26 <xiando> jaakkos: elaborate
 793 2014-10-05 16:16:38 <jaakkos> xiando: not with you.
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 912 2014-10-05 19:19:32 <chichov> how to get the balance of the whole wallet (all accounts) including tx's with 0 confirmations?
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 915 2014-10-05 19:20:26 <justanotheruser> chichov: getunconfirmedbalance
 916 2014-10-05 19:20:50 <chichov> huh, didn't know such a thing exists
 917 2014-10-05 19:21:02 <chichov> at least it's not listed in https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Original_Bitcoin_client/API_calls_list
 918 2014-10-05 19:21:23 <chichov> justanotheruser: but you're right, it works like a charm :)
 919 2014-10-05 19:21:26 <justanotheruser> chichov:  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  0.9.3
 920 2014-10-05 19:21:39 <justanotheruser> no idea when it was added
 921 2014-10-05 19:22:49 <chichov> alrightie, I'll add it to my wrapper
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 936 2014-10-05 19:40:55 <espringe> Could anyone recommend a good default configuration setting for bitcoin core that will prevent me having trasactions left in unconfirm purgatory
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 938 2014-10-05 19:41:17 <espringe> I'm using the latest bitcoind to send transactions, and been getting recently a lot of complaints about transactions like: https://blockchain.info/tx/58d3b18c87e452299757da02dc00c47ecdd31fee552d98dbbbf568f460007812
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 940 2014-10-05 19:42:20 <sipa> espringe: set the fee to nonzero
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 942 2014-10-05 19:42:57 <espringe> sipa: As in 'paytxfee' ?
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 944 2014-10-05 19:43:10 <sipa> yes
 945 2014-10-05 19:43:35 <sipa> 1000 satoshi or higher (per kilobyte, but paytxfee is per kilobyte already)
 946 2014-10-05 19:43:35 <espringe> sipa: Does that act as a fee floor? Or does it always use that exact amount?
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 948 2014-10-05 19:44:26 <sipa> ^
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 951 2014-10-05 19:47:12 <gmaxwell> espringe: it's per-kilobyte of data. (there is a worst case maximum implied by the fact that it will never make a tx larger than 100kb; though it normally makes much smaller transactions; if at all possible)
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 953 2014-10-05 19:50:04 <espringe> I guess what I mean to say, is I'm happy paying 1000 satoshis / kb -- but I'd also be happier to pay more if deemed appropriate
 954 2014-10-05 19:50:41 <espringe> i guess what i'm looking for is:  payatleasttxfee  or something
 955 2014-10-05 19:50:54 <sipa> espringe: there's no good solution for that right now, except by looking at what fees are being paid right now
 956 2014-10-05 19:51:15 <sipa> soon bitcoin core will automatically do such an estimation, and you can query it
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 959 2014-10-05 19:53:04 <espringe> Yeah nice. It's a bit problematic, like I just ordered something and they use CoinPayments.net to process the order. For what ever retarded reason, they reuse addresses and require the payment to have 2 confirmations within 3 hours, or it won't count against your order
 960 2014-10-05 19:53:33 <sipa> that's crazy...
 961 2014-10-05 19:53:47 <sipa> where does the money go if it confirms later?
 962 2014-10-05 19:53:53 <sipa> do they refund it?
 963 2014-10-05 19:53:56 <espringe> To other peoples orders, presumedly
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 966 2014-10-05 19:54:11 <espringe> I just checked the address they gave me, and it received money 21 times
 967 2014-10-05 19:54:25 <espringe> no wait, 31 times
 968 2014-10-05 19:54:35 <espringe> Here's the address they told me to pay: https://blockchain.info/address/1CgwGc5VX6QbHFGC3AU7z5V5HXoYtGHmNE
 969 2014-10-05 19:55:20 <espringe> Anyway, that's more of a case of someone else creating a stupid system
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 971 2014-10-05 19:55:34 <espringe> Why they'd want to reuse addresses for multiple peoples orders, i will never know
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 973 2014-10-05 19:56:26 <sipa> reusing addresses for receiving different payments from the same person is already bad for privacy, and should be discouraged, but doesn't hurt otherwise
 974 2014-10-05 19:56:43 <sipa> reusing addresses to the point that you can't identify distinct payments anymore is just retarded
 975 2014-10-05 19:59:07 <espringe> I really like reusing addresses on my site, as it makes it trivial for both me and the consumer to see all their deposits. But sharing the same address for multiple people, and giving them a windows time period to have the transaction confirm seems ill thought out
 976 2014-10-05 19:59:46 <espringe> The only thing I can think of, is they don't know how to deterministically generate addresses, and want to have a big pool for backup purposes
 977 2014-10-05 19:59:57 <sipa> You think making it trivial to see all deposits, by making the whole world see them, is a good idea?
 978 2014-10-05 20:00:10 <sipa> Convenience trumps security every day, i guess :(
 979 2014-10-05 20:00:30 <espringe> There's no public link between that address and their account
 980 2014-10-05 20:00:36 <sipa> So?
 981 2014-10-05 20:00:40 <espringe> I've yet to receive a complaint
 982 2014-10-05 20:00:54 <sipa> ^thatś what worries me, that nobody cares about privacy
 983 2014-10-05 20:01:40 <espringe> The convience is extreme though, they can go to blockchain.info  type in their address -- see *all* their deposits and make sure they were all credited
 984 2014-10-05 20:01:55 <sipa> it's just gratuiously letting the whole world link different transactions together
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 986 2014-10-05 20:02:38 <espringe> I've been tempted to use bip44, to allow people to generate a new address after each previous deposit
 987 2014-10-05 20:02:48 <espringe> but its a feature no one has requested, so i don't want to make it for no purpose
 988 2014-10-05 20:04:14 <espringe> And until bitcoin core supports bip44, it's just a shit load more addresses i need to import in it
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1006 2014-10-05 20:27:49 <midnightmagic> I am amused that you appear to think that wasn't a complaint.
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1062 2014-10-05 21:31:36 <brisque> sipa: headers-first is sick :)
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1088 2014-10-05 22:20:02 <sipa> brisque: ?
1089 2014-10-05 22:21:07 <brisque> sipa: delivering praise for headers-first, just got around to messing with it :)
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1125 2014-10-05 23:20:17 <phantomcircuit> sipa, reusing addresses like that actually appears to be a common solution
1126 2014-10-05 23:20:23 <phantomcircuit> iirc bitpay does that also
1127 2014-10-05 23:20:32 <phantomcircuit> but with a much larger interval between reuse
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1129 2014-10-05 23:23:08 <brisque> phantomcircuit: it's interesting, really, that they're doing that.
1130 2014-10-05 23:23:35 <brisque> I've noticed that before and couldn't explain it at all
1131 2014-10-05 23:24:01 <phantomcircuit> brisque, i would assume that they distribute a fixed set of addesses
1132 2014-10-05 23:24:15 <phantomcircuit> but synchronization issues would seem to be an issue there
1133 2014-10-05 23:24:26 <phantomcircuit> possibly it's just a database table with address, last_used
1134 2014-10-05 23:24:46 <brisque> one of the exchanges does that too but I can't remember which
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1141 2014-10-05 23:34:20 <sipa> brisque: well, please keep trying to break it :)
1142 2014-10-05 23:35:32 <phantomcircuit> brisque, really? which one?
1143 2014-10-05 23:35:36 <phantomcircuit> that is mind bogglingly stupid
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1146 2014-10-05 23:37:43 <brisque> phantomcircuit: I honestly don't remember, just someone mentioned making a deposit to an exchange and finding the address was stale (had a transaction months ago)
1147 2014-10-05 23:38:00 <phantomcircuit> jeez
1148 2014-10-05 23:38:39 <brisque> nothing would surprise me. what about the dude who sent hundreds of bitcoin to mt gox after it closed?
1149 2014-10-05 23:39:33 <phantomcircuit> sigh...
1150 2014-10-05 23:40:29 <brisque> that's right, he sent 800 BTC
1151 2014-10-05 23:41:07 <brisque> and got it back, too.
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