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  28 2014-10-07 00:31:44 <AdmiralAltcoin> trying to to a testnet btc txn without help, but getting confused if someone could clarify the script input for me? Just need to know does the scriptPubKey (25bytes after OP_HASH160 on blockexplorer.com) need to be reversed like the value and previous txid fields (little Endian)?
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  33 2014-10-07 00:33:44 <AdmiralAltcoin> https://blockexplorer.com/testnet/rawtx/b6aa5308788c0afe30b809ac4e405861d73f5ff17b9e702f5454237f94141d96 in case that helps, curious if this is what is being used for input: 76a914808dc34fd51c936e2db7c702745228b5a6a53d5588ac"
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  60 2014-10-07 01:09:56 <skinnkavaj> Alright so now gavin have proposed what looks like a good plan for the scalability
  61 2014-10-07 01:10:39 <skinnkavaj> Now we just need to focus on the mining centralization issue, this is a problem we should acknoledge and try to fix. there must be a way.
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  73 2014-10-07 01:27:35 <samson_>  
  74 2014-10-07 01:28:40 <samson_> New PM from BCX :
  75 2014-10-07 01:28:40 <samson_> I have removed most of post accusing Baritus of still being involved.
  76 2014-10-07 01:28:40 <samson_> You should delete your responses, relaunch your fundraiser in a new SELF MODDED THREAD to which I will respond with a post stating I am confident now that baritus is gone.
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  78 2014-10-07 01:29:13 <samson_> sorry - wrong channel !
  79 2014-10-07 01:29:20 <samson_> copy/paste error !
  80 2014-10-07 01:29:34 <samson_> meant to be pm - my bad !
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  84 2014-10-07 01:35:29 <hhhhhhhhhh> do you encrypt bitcoin addresses when you store them in your database like passwords
  85 2014-10-07 01:36:05 <samson_> of course not - passwords should be hashed not encrypted
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  88 2014-10-07 01:36:44 <hhhhhhhhhh> oops thats what i mean
  89 2014-10-07 01:36:48 <hhhhhhhhhh> hash addresses
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 258 2014-10-07 05:51:46 <vrjdev> Hi , I am new to bitcoin , any links from where I can start
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 260 2014-10-07 05:52:18 <justanotheruser> vrjdev: #bitcoin is a good start. got some links in the topic
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 325 2014-10-07 07:16:14 <wumpus> Luke-Jr: YOU BROKE github-merge.sh 
 326 2014-10-07 07:16:46 <wumpus> I guess I should go on holiday now, as I can't merge anything anymore :)
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 330 2014-10-07 07:19:19 <SomeoneWeird> wumpus: Uhoh
 331 2014-10-07 07:22:01 <sipa> wumpus: how?
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 333 2014-10-07 07:25:36 <cfields> wumpus: eh? the bash thing broke it?
 334 2014-10-07 07:30:32 <wumpus> pull #5038
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 339 2014-10-07 07:32:46 <sipa> ah i missed thatit modified github-merge
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 341 2014-10-07 07:35:44 <wumpus> I'll just revert the changes to that
 342 2014-10-07 07:36:41 <wumpus> it's not part of the automake system anyway, it doesn't need compatibilty with the 80's
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 344 2014-10-07 07:37:17 <sipa> haha
 345 2014-10-07 07:38:28 <wumpus> and if someone complains it doesn't run in their shell: please rewrite it in python
 346 2014-10-07 07:38:43 <midnightmagic> or C! :-D
 347 2014-10-07 07:38:52 <wumpus> no, python :)
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 350 2014-10-07 07:39:30 <wumpus> at some point we converted the test code from terrible bash scriptisms to python as well
 351 2014-10-07 07:40:01 <wumpus> although there are still some bash RPC tests I believe... need to be ported over
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 578 2014-10-07 12:44:33 <hearn> good afternoon
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 582 2014-10-07 12:46:54 <t7> aft'noon
 583 2014-10-07 12:47:01 <t7> 'ow are ya?
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 587 2014-10-07 12:52:51 <hearn> not bad!
 588 2014-10-07 12:53:05 <hearn> i've started biking to my "office" :) let's see if i can keep it up during the winter ...
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 591 2014-10-07 12:56:07 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: oops? I was kindof assuming the new github-merge.sh would be used to merge that PR :x
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 776 2014-10-07 16:13:26 <starsoccer> hello, Was curious if anyone knew of a good multisignature api
 777 2014-10-07 16:13:34 <starsoccer> or open source multisig service/site
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 780 2014-10-07 16:17:46 <gavinandresen> TD-Linux: RE: “P2SH was a soft fork and the sky did not fall, but miners did lose money and waste electricity mining blocks on the wrong side of the chain”
 781 2014-10-07 16:18:02 <TD-Linux> wrong highlight :)
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 783 2014-10-07 16:18:32 <gavinandresen> TD-Linux: hmm?  Are you not the same TD that is Mike Hearn?
 784 2014-10-07 16:18:41 <TD-Linux> nope
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 788 2014-10-07 16:19:06 <hearn> gavinandresen: i stopped using that nick, sorry for the confusion
 789 2014-10-07 16:19:06 <gavinandresen> ah, ok.
 790 2014-10-07 16:19:13 <jgarzik> gavinandresen, the entity you seek is usually now found under category of: hearn
 791 2014-10-07 16:19:24 <gavinandresen> jgarzik: thanks
 792 2014-10-07 16:19:25 <hearn> nobody who visited #bitcoinj knew where to find me with the old nick :) so after a good 15 year run i retired it ...
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 794 2014-10-07 16:19:41 <hearn> TweedleDee shortened to fit nick limits on old IRC networks .... is no more
 795 2014-10-07 16:19:43 <gavinandresen> hearn: RE: P2SH soft fork: we’ve learned from that mistake
 796 2014-10-07 16:20:11 <gavinandresen> … hence the code to warn if block.version starts to change out from under you, and code that makes up-version transactions non-standard
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 798 2014-10-07 16:21:13 <hearn> having logging is good is an improvement over the old state of affairs for sure, though i doubt many miners/merchants check the logs regularly unless there's a problem. they can still end up on the wrong side of the fork though.
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 801 2014-10-07 16:24:42 <hearn> my root concern is maintaining the full validation guarantee that bitcoin has always implicitly made. IsStandard does complicate it because you can think a transaction will work and then it doesn't get confirmed, if you fall behind the IsStandard rules or if there's version skew.
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 804 2014-10-07 16:24:55 <hearn> but that only affects the mempool which has always been less guaranteed
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 806 2014-10-07 16:25:21 <hearn> on the other hand, there are plenty of places that say "1 block == good", and changing that out from underneath people seems wrong somehow.
 807 2014-10-07 16:26:07 <hearn> sorry, above "implicitly" should read "explicitly"
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 875 2014-10-07 17:26:19 <Happzz> so bitcoin-qt re-broadcasts txs that didnt confirm every so often, right? how do i prevent that
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 907 2014-10-07 17:51:18 <Happzz> i think i got it.
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 938 2014-10-07 18:05:18 <CheckDavid> Anyone looking for a job in a Bitcoin Business? If so, feel free to PM me with your skills or inquiries. We have many vacancies to fill.
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 968 2014-10-07 18:32:13 <sipa> wumpus: ooh, reindexing support!
 969 2014-10-07 18:32:15 * sipa tests
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 971 2014-10-07 18:32:38 <sipa> CheckDavid: not here
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1000 2014-10-07 19:12:10 <sipa> wumpus: the easiest waytofix the skipping problem with it is just to reindex allfilesalways entirely
1001 2014-10-07 19:12:15 <sipa> wumpus: testing that now
1002 2014-10-07 19:12:33 <sipa> it can be optimized bydetecting that a particular block is already processed, and not bothering toread it inthatcase
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1008 2014-10-07 19:26:57 <jtimon> how can I make core compile before server?
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1010 2014-10-07 19:27:36 <sipa> make libbitcoin_core.a check ?
1011 2014-10-07 19:27:51 <sipa> bylisting it explicitly as a target before anything else?
1012 2014-10-07 19:28:00 <sipa> (just a guess; i  haven't tested this)
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1014 2014-10-07 19:31:18 <sipa> wumpus: seems to work very well; letme include your patch + my optimization in the headersfirst tree
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1019 2014-10-07 19:34:44 <sipa> once this 2-thread 1.83 GHz processor finishes compiling...
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1021 2014-10-07 19:34:56 <jtimon> since server depends on core, it would be nice if core was built first by default
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1023 2014-10-07 19:35:03 <sipa> jtimon: makes sense
1024 2014-10-07 19:35:07 <jtimon> I'll try that though
1025 2014-10-07 19:35:17 <sipa> probablysomeordering issue in the makefiles
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1028 2014-10-07 19:38:59 <jtimon> coryfields could you take a look at this? ^^
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1039 2014-10-07 19:49:34 <Happzz> if i remove unconfirmed txs with pywallet and then rescan, will bitcoin-qt show the balance as if those txs i removed and didnt confirm never existed?
1040 2014-10-07 19:49:42 <Happzz> will it try to re-spend the inputs?
1041 2014-10-07 19:49:50 <sipa> yes, yes
1042 2014-10-07 19:49:58 <Happzz> thanks
1043 2014-10-07 19:50:05 <Happzz> oh, one last thing
1044 2014-10-07 19:50:31 <Happzz> i send a tx, it doesnt confirm for days, i remove the tx, i rescan, then my client sees the tx in the network
1045 2014-10-07 19:50:39 <Happzz> will it actively try to re-send it every 30 mins as well?
1046 2014-10-07 19:51:16 <sipa> yes
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1051 2014-10-07 19:53:45 <jtimon> make libbitcoin_core.a check -j2
1052 2014-10-07 19:53:45 <jtimon> make: *** No rule to make target 'libbitcoin_core.a'.  Stop.
1053 2014-10-07 19:53:51 <jtimon> no luck
1054 2014-10-07 19:54:33 <sipa> uhm
1055 2014-10-07 19:54:40 <sipa> the lib is calledlibbitcoin_common.aapparetly :)
1056 2014-10-07 19:55:06 <sipa> sorry, typing sucks here
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1058 2014-10-07 19:58:05 <jtimon> oh, yep, stupid me, that works
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1123 2014-10-07 21:06:21 <ninjashogun> hey
1124 2014-10-07 21:06:38 <ninjashogun> Let's design an ATM card that is a Bitcoin wallet.   Who is up to the task with me.  Ideas?  Thoughts?   Purpose: so that dumb users can just "get a card" rather than have to learn how to set up a complicated node on a p2p network.  They already use ATM cards.  So, this is a form factor thing.
1125 2014-10-07 21:06:45 <ninjashogun> how might we approach this question?
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1127 2014-10-07 21:09:16 <Eliel> ninjashogun: two things. One, that's probably off topic for this channel. Two, google bitcoincard.
1128 2014-10-07 21:10:35 <Eliel> although, it looks like that project ended up as vapourware.
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1130 2014-10-07 21:11:12 <ninjashogun> Eliel - interesting link.  did they actually solve the problem though, or just advertise something with 'imagine'?
1131 2014-10-07 21:11:27 <Eliel> they supposedly had actual prototypes even
1132 2014-10-07 21:11:56 <ninjashogun> I scrubbed thorugh most of the video.  Where are hte prototypes?  Were they in the final form factor?  If so, what happened?
1133 2014-10-07 21:12:24 <Eliel> no idea, the radio silence is deafening
1134 2014-10-07 21:12:24 <ninjashogun> I mean, if we're being precoius about it, the laptop in front of me is a prototype for a card-sized bitcoin client.  (Since it is a bitcoin client.)
1135 2014-10-07 21:12:49 <ninjashogun> Eliel - what makes you think they had prototypes?
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1137 2014-10-07 21:14:01 <Eliel> it was so long ago that I don't remember the details anymore. I'm sure you'll find the info if you look for it.
1138 2014-10-07 21:14:29 <ninjashogun> okay
1139 2014-10-07 21:15:18 <ninjashogun> Eliel - how can you imagine a usage case where  a person could use their ATM card at an ATM, and either check their bitcoin balance, or buy some more bitcoins using an alternative card?
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1141 2014-10-07 21:18:15 <Eliel> as for myself, I'm not interested in any kind of a wallet device without it's own screen.
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1143 2014-10-07 21:19:44 <christophe> Without a (signer -> user) communication channel, tampering with payment info is a risk.
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1152 2014-10-07 21:29:09 <ninjashogun> Eliel, this makes sense. :)
1153 2014-10-07 21:29:16 <phantomcircuit> you are wildly off topic
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1168 2014-10-07 21:55:43 <BlueMatt> cfields: ping
1169 2014-10-07 21:55:47 <BlueMatt> what happened to https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/builds/37322419
1170 2014-10-07 21:56:02 <BlueMatt> can we get travis to rebuild headers-first?
1171 2014-10-07 21:56:07 <BlueMatt> maybe sipa wants to change a commit date?
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1186 2014-10-07 22:07:31 <grep2grok> anybody got contact with MagicalTux? bitcoin.it just recorded a password reset attempt on my account, and his admin email (contact@bitcoin.it) is getting bounced to bitcointalk.org, which failed permanently.
1187 2014-10-07 22:08:22 <Happzz> hes in jail
1188 2014-10-07 22:08:34 <Happzz> or maybe in panama, on the beach, drinking some coconuts
1189 2014-10-07 22:08:41 <grep2grok> I doubt that, his twitter account is alive and well
1190 2014-10-07 22:08:55 <Happzz> he should be in jail*
1191 2014-10-07 22:10:11 <Dizzle> grep2grok: I'd just hit him up on FreeNode if its important. He was online yesterday.
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1225 2014-10-07 22:42:02 <Sleepnbum> semi bitcoin related -- what are the odds David Byrne's "Medici" platform uses counterparty vs a new altcoin?
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1233 2014-10-07 22:51:01 <Sleepnbum> fack, wrong channel.. sry all
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