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   2 2014-10-15 00:00:25 <coryfields_> in fact, probably worth doing that now to save hearing that a bunch of times
   3 2014-10-15 00:00:39 <sipa> ok
   4 2014-10-15 00:00:51 <sipa> less than 4MB, nice :)
   5 2014-10-15 00:01:22 <sipa> utilstrencoding has over half a MB in object code, wth
   6 2014-10-15 00:01:45 <coryfields_> iirc the one with static libcrypto was ~2mb or so, stripped
   7 2014-10-15 00:02:17 <sipa> tinyformat results in a lot of object code
   8 2014-10-15 00:02:27 <coryfields_> 216K	.libs/libbitcoinconsensus.so.0.0.0
   9 2014-10-15 00:02:32 <BlueMatt> we need a --use-link-time-optimization flag
  10 2014-10-15 00:02:39 <coryfields_> that's with shared libcrypto. We'll have to discuss how we want to handle that for release
  11 2014-10-15 00:02:56 <sipa> coryfields_: i'd prefer crypto to be linked in statically
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  14 2014-10-15 00:03:08 <BlueMatt> you mean ssl libcrypto?
  15 2014-10-15 00:03:11 <sipa> ah
  16 2014-10-15 00:03:18 <sipa> never mind!
  17 2014-10-15 00:03:19 <BlueMatt> or our crypto?
  18 2014-10-15 00:03:25 <sipa> i though we were talking about ours
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  20 2014-10-15 00:03:27 <lechuga_> this is coming along so quickly
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  22 2014-10-15 00:03:33 <lechuga_> thx @ cfields & BlueMatt
  23 2014-10-15 00:03:35 <coryfields_> yea, ours will be static. i was talking about ssl/libcrypto
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  25 2014-10-15 00:03:49 <sipa> whatever is normal for the platform i guess
  26 2014-10-15 00:03:52 <sipa> same as bitcoind
  27 2014-10-15 00:03:57 <coryfields_> for win, i think static into the .dll is the most reasonable choice
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  29 2014-10-15 00:04:12 <BlueMatt> coryfields_: ack
  30 2014-10-15 00:04:14 <coryfields_> since otherwise that would require acquiring a compat dll, or dealing with the nightmare of building it in win
  31 2014-10-15 00:04:17 <sipa> in 0.11 we drop the libcrypto dependency :p
  32 2014-10-15 00:04:28 <BlueMatt> lechuga_: its mostly coryfields_, and jtimon is working on longer-term stuff which will trim it down further
  33 2014-10-15 00:04:45 <BlueMatt> coryfields_: ack to win static, dynamic elsewhere
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  35 2014-10-15 00:04:54 <lechuga_> this will be extremely helpful, thx 2 all involved
  36 2014-10-15 00:05:10 <coryfields_> haven't tested osx dylib yet. i'm hoping for a libtool miracle, and that it just works
  37 2014-10-15 00:05:17 <coryfields_> seems unlikely though :)
  38 2014-10-15 00:05:29 <sipa> coryfields_: let me know when you have updated PRs to review
  39 2014-10-15 00:05:33 <BlueMatt> osx......meh
  40 2014-10-15 00:06:23 <sipa> heh, what is FormatSubVersion doing in version.cpp
  41 2014-10-15 00:06:39 <coryfields_> sipa: #4981 is updated again, if that's what you meant
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  43 2014-10-15 00:07:05 <coryfields_> sipa: as opposed to the util stringhandling?
  44 2014-10-15 00:07:21 <sipa> yeah- not that it matters much because libconsensus needs both (for now)
  45 2014-10-15 00:07:32 <sipa> but version having 300 kb of object code is crazy
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  48 2014-10-15 00:08:05 <coryfields_> yea. i'd really like to nuke those util deps..
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  50 2014-10-15 00:08:20 <coryfields_> i'll leave it up to you to fight the error/logging stuff :)
  51 2014-10-15 00:08:45 <sipa> deal
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  53 2014-10-15 00:09:44 <coryfields_> i went the most hackish route for now and just deleted em as you suggested. I figured we'd discuss that separately when we got to it.
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  57 2014-10-15 00:13:42 <coryfields_> libbitcoinconsensus.0.dylib
  58 2014-10-15 00:13:46 <coryfields_> woohoo :)
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 105 2014-10-15 01:16:06 <FXOR> I have a pretty in depth knowledge of how the bitcoin protocol works, but I can't figure out one thing.
 106 2014-10-15 01:18:29 <FXOR> how does a wallet with a private address know that a utxo's receiving address belongs to it
 107 2014-10-15 01:19:38 <FXOR> wouldn't it have to sha256 and base58 encode every permutation to see if it belongs?
 108 2014-10-15 01:21:01 <gmaxwell> "every permutation" ? Its not clear to me what you're thinking of specifically.
 109 2014-10-15 01:22:26 <FXOR> I mean running sha256 and encoding the public key until getting the result in the transaction.
 110 2014-10-15 01:23:11 <gwillen> FXOR: the wallet knows all its own addresses, the transaction has the address in it, it just has to check if it's in the list
 111 2014-10-15 01:23:23 <gwillen> if it has a lot of keys, it has to check all of them, yeah, but that's really fast
 112 2014-10-15 01:23:44 <gwillen> unless I'm misunderstanding what you're asking
 113 2014-10-15 01:24:11 <gwillen> (and of course what I said only applies to standard one-recipient transaction outputs)
 114 2014-10-15 01:25:14 <FXOR> how many permutations for a single publicaddy are there?
 115 2014-10-15 01:28:15 <gwillen> what do you mean by 'permutations'?
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 117 2014-10-15 01:29:30 <phantomcircuit> FXOR, there is exactly 1 canonical hash value per public key
 118 2014-10-15 01:29:31 <phantomcircuit> iirc you can pad the public key to get more but that will fail IsStandard and wont be relayed by most of the network
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 120 2014-10-15 01:30:52 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, is the public key DER encoded?
 121 2014-10-15 01:30:58 <phantomcircuit> or is that just the signature
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 123 2014-10-15 01:32:03 <Luke-Jr> FXOR: all addresses are encoded as exactly 1 scriptPubKey ever
 124 2014-10-15 01:32:07 <Luke-Jr> there are no permutations possible
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 127 2014-10-15 01:32:40 <Luke-Jr> you don't need to look for weird stuff you don't expect, because that's simply not a valid payment to your address
 128 2014-10-15 01:32:44 <gwillen> Luke-Jr: but given a scriptpubkey, determining if you can redeem it is not necessarily trivial
 129 2014-10-15 01:32:53 <gmaxwell> FXOR:  I don't know what you're talking about "permutations" there are no permutations.
 130 2014-10-15 01:32:59 <Luke-Jr> gwillen: it is if you keep a list of scriptPubKeys you're expecting
 131 2014-10-15 01:33:11 <gwillen> (but presumably there's only one standard one-recipient scriptpubkey for a given pubkey in your wallet)
 132 2014-10-15 01:33:15 <Luke-Jr> gwillen: add to the list for every invoice/address you generate, optionally remove when paid
 133 2014-10-15 01:33:16 <gmaxwell> A single private key _uniquely_ defines a single public key.
 134 2014-10-15 01:34:12 <Luke-Jr> FXOR: also, addresses are inhernetly public - there is no "private address"
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 136 2014-10-15 01:34:49 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, but does it also uniquely define a single public key encoding which is accepted by OP_CHECKSIG
 137 2014-10-15 01:34:54 <phantomcircuit> that im not so sure of
 138 2014-10-15 01:35:05 <Luke-Jr> phantomcircuit: not relevant, though
 139 2014-10-15 01:35:37 <Luke-Jr> if you ask for payment at 1xxxx and they send to something else, they didn't pay you
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 142 2014-10-15 01:35:56 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: what luke said.  Simply because you only accept the public keys _you specified_ not any which you could conceivably redeem; doing the latter would get you robbed right quick.
 143 2014-10-15 01:36:23 <gmaxwell> (e.g. when some wiseass pays you with 1 of 2 {you, them} ... sure you can spend it, ... and so can they, bye bye funds.)
 144 2014-10-15 01:36:26 <FXOR> Luke-Jr: how can a single public key have multiple addresses?
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 170 2014-10-15 01:40:35 <Luke-Jr> FXOR: it doesn't. you use a single key once ever.
 171 2014-10-15 01:40:35 <gmaxwell> FXOR: What do you mean by permutation?
 172 2014-10-15 01:40:35 <Luke-Jr> unless you mean a watch-only HD wallet, which you'd have to read the spec on
 173 2014-10-15 01:40:36 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, right
 174 2014-10-15 01:40:36 <phantomcircuit> i wasn't saying otherwise (for a number of reasons beyond 1/2)
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 177 2014-10-15 01:40:36 <FXOR> by permutations I meant outputs of sha256. i had incorrectly assumed there was a "salt"  added of sorts similar to mining
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 198 2014-10-15 01:40:39 <FXOR> e.g. timestamps or whatveer data the miner chooes
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 201 2014-10-15 01:40:39 <phantomcircuit> FXOR, an address is simply base58(ripemd160(sha256(der(publickey))))
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 213 2014-10-15 01:40:53 <jgarzik> compressed vs. uncompressed
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 220 2014-10-15 01:43:26 <FXOR> yup, this : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Technical_background_of_Bitcoin_addresses helped clear things up for me
 221 2014-10-15 01:44:15 <SomeoneWeird> phantomcircuit: 'simply' ;p
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 243 2014-10-15 01:50:18 <jgarzik> ICYMI: SSL 3.0 bug http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/10/this-poodle-bites-exploiting-ssl-30.html
 244 2014-10-15 01:50:18 <FXOR> phantomcircuit: What about the checksum or version byte, or is that defined in the ripemd160 function.
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 250 2014-10-15 01:50:19 <phantomcircuit> FXOR, oh forgot about that
 251 2014-10-15 01:50:19 <phantomcircuit> shrug
 252 2014-10-15 01:50:19 <phantomcircuit> logically that's what it's doing
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 259 2014-10-15 01:50:20 <phantomcircuit> FXOR, so there are actually multiple addresses per private key, but that doesn't really matter because you give someone one specific address to use
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 272 2014-10-15 01:50:21 <phantomcircuit> since it's a hash they cannot generate another address which would be valid for the corresponding private key
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 279 2014-10-15 01:50:36 <FXOR> how are the multiple addresses generated w/o a salt of some sort? ot is there?
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 281 2014-10-15 01:50:38 <phantomcircuit> which is what Luke-Jr was telling you before
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 283 2014-10-15 01:50:52 <BlueMatt> jgarzik: yup, ssl is hilariously broken...me and a friend hacked together a "if I can mitm you, I can tweet from your twitter account" PoC that worked surprisingly well a year ago
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 288 2014-10-15 01:51:03 <phantomcircuit> FXOR, the binary representation of the public key has two forms, compressed and uncompessed
 289 2014-10-15 01:51:17 <phantomcircuit> but more so you can null pad various bits to get even more representations
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 292 2014-10-15 01:59:33 <phantomcircuit> they're all logically an identical public key
 293 2014-10-15 01:59:33 <phantomcircuit> but have difference hash values
 294 2014-10-15 01:59:34 <phantomcircuit> does that make sense?
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 296 2014-10-15 01:59:34 <Luke-Jr> FXOR: the checksum is a checksum, it is discarded before it become a scriptPubKey
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 298 2014-10-15 01:59:34 <Luke-Jr> FXOR: the version tells the wallet what format the script is
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 300 2014-10-15 01:59:34 <Luke-Jr> version 0 is OP_DUP OP_HASH160 <data> OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG
 301 2014-10-15 01:59:34 <Luke-Jr> version 5 is OP_HASH160 <data> OP_EQUAL
 302 2014-10-15 01:59:35 <Luke-Jr> FXOR: you only look for the format you expect, nothing more
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 309 2014-10-15 01:59:36 <FXOR> so its is or isnt possible to have multiple public addresses(with the same format) correspondong to a single privatekey
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 311 2014-10-15 01:59:36 <Luke-Jr> FXOR: define "single private key"
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 313 2014-10-15 01:59:36 <Luke-Jr> FXOR: a single ECDSA private key, it's possible, but you'd have to do it yourself and it'd be a stupid idea; a single wallet, it's however you want
 314 2014-10-15 01:59:36 <Luke-Jr> in no case can someone else make up new addresses that they can argue pay you
 315 2014-10-15 01:59:36 <Luke-Jr> unless you tell them explicitly how anyway
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 324 2014-10-15 02:08:25 <FXOR> Yes, a single ecdsa private key is what I was referring to when I said private key
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 334 2014-10-15 02:17:04 <Theonevortex> Hello all
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 336 2014-10-15 02:19:22 <sipa> FXOR: a single ecdsa private key could be used to construct many possible addresses (through p2sh scripts involving it, ot by using the compressed or uncompressed form), but you'd still need to know the actuala script to be able to spend funds
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 338 2014-10-15 02:19:43 <sipa> so typically it is still the receiver that determines which scripts he will accept payments to
 339 2014-10-15 02:20:08 <sipa> the fact that other scripts can be unlocked using the same private key is not actually relevant
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 375 2014-10-15 03:39:45 <coryfields_> jtimon: ping. around?
 376 2014-10-15 03:40:35 <coryfields_> jtimon: (it's nowhere near ready to PR, but thought you might like to have a look): https://github.com/theuni/bitcoin/tree/libbitcoinconsensus
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 379 2014-10-15 03:41:51 <coryfields_> rather, it won't be pr'd, but chunks at a time will
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 382 2014-10-15 03:44:49 <jtimon> I'll take a look, is that already boost free ?
 383 2014-10-15 03:47:37 <coryfields_> yea. boost-free, builds standalone solib/dll/dylib, and passes all tests
 384 2014-10-15 03:48:05 <coryfields_> well, dll has stupid toolchain dependencies due to a libtool bug. that's on my list.
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 390 2014-10-15 03:56:45 <BlueMatt> coryfields_: so it did magically work on osx?
 391 2014-10-15 03:57:00 <coryfields_> yep, got lucky for once :)
 392 2014-10-15 04:00:50 <coryfields_> sipa: i'm going to leave my macbook running tonight doing a fresh sync with headers-first. anything out of the ordinary you need tested?
 393 2014-10-15 04:01:53 <kanzure> what's the background on wanting to remove boost?
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 395 2014-10-15 04:02:45 <coryfields_> kanzure: only for libconsensus, to simplify it on our side and users' side
 396 2014-10-15 04:02:56 <kanzure> more specifically: faster builds?
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 399 2014-10-15 04:04:37 <coryfields_> others may have different motivations. For me, it greatly reduces the infrastructure needed to build/deploy, and simplifies things for anyone using the lib
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 401 2014-10-15 04:04:50 <coryfields_> outside the scope of the lib (for bitcoind), nothing's changing
 402 2014-10-15 04:04:59 <kanzure> what are the other popular motivations? heh
 403 2014-10-15 04:06:03 <coryfields_> not sure. it was my requirement for working on the lib :p
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 405 2014-10-15 04:08:04 <coryfields_> kanzure: libbitcoinconsensus is meant to be as barebones as possible. low barrier for entry, so that others are encouraged to use it rather than try to reimplement. so, simpler is better.
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 635 2014-10-15 10:28:29 <fanquake> sipa tested HF on osx fairly extensively now, haven’t seen any issues.
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 643 2014-10-15 10:46:53 <Adlai> would running an electrum server on hf be a good idea / valuable test?
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 645 2014-10-15 10:47:56 <Luke-Jr> running an electrum server might not be a good idea in general. <.<
 646 2014-10-15 10:48:40 <Adlai> why not?
 647 2014-10-15 10:49:11 <Luke-Jr> Adlai: poor design? :p  (look at its protocol..)
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 649 2014-10-15 10:49:38 <Adlai> w/e, i'm looking for ways to help test HF
 650 2014-10-15 10:49:56 <Adlai> and this seems like it'll put some real world stress on it, beyond just relaying between 17-22 connections
 651 2014-10-15 10:49:57 <Luke-Jr> yes, it was mostly a joke :P
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 659 2014-10-15 10:54:43 <wumpus> Adlai: everything that uses the HF code is a valuable test
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 661 2014-10-15 10:58:58 <Adlai> can i tell electrum to use bitcoind's leveldb?
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 663 2014-10-15 11:00:05 <wumpus> I doubt that, but that's not a question for here
 664 2014-10-15 11:00:36 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: sure it is O.o?
 665 2014-10-15 11:00:45 <Luke-Jr> not that the relevant people are here
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 671 2014-10-15 11:04:22 <wumpus> Luke-Jr: well I don't mean it's necessarily off-topic, but I doubt anyone here knows
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 709 2014-10-15 11:40:09 <Adlai> what can i do to better keep an eye on possible breakage in HF?
 710 2014-10-15 11:40:42 <Adlai> meanwhile i just stare at -printtoconsole and -getconnectioncount
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 739 2014-10-15 12:13:28 <Adlai> why does the client retain many orphaned blocks, visible with getchaintips? is it juuust in case a stronger fork appears from one of them?
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 742 2014-10-15 12:17:34 <wumpus> chaintips doesn't show orphaned blocks
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 744 2014-10-15 12:18:06 <wumpus> orphan blocks are blocks that have no known parent, they used to be stored in memory but after headers-first these are not stored  at all anymore
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 749 2014-10-15 12:21:17 <wumpus> as for alternative chaintips, sometimes it happens that there is a small fork in the chain but these are quite rare in bitcoin and generally not longer than one block
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 753 2014-10-15 12:22:29 <wumpus> you can run linearize.py (part of the repository) to get a linear block history without forks, if you need that
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 758 2014-10-15 12:23:59 <Adlai> so without explicitly linearizing, the fork less taken gets ignored but still remembered on-disk?
 759 2014-10-15 12:24:11 <wumpus> yes
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 762 2014-10-15 12:25:22 <wumpus> that's always been the case, though getchaintips is a relatively new addition that allows inspecting the alternative tips
 763 2014-10-15 12:26:28 <Adlai> total_amount in gettxoutsetinfo is the sum of all potentially spendable outputs?
 764 2014-10-15 12:26:53 <Adlai> eg it includes the +2Kbtc in the xcp arson address?
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 766 2014-10-15 12:28:21 <wumpus> yes
 767 2014-10-15 12:29:00 <wumpus> unless you use OP_RETURN to explicitly mark an output as non-spendable, it will end up in there
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 864 2014-10-15 14:15:34 <btcdrak> "arson address"
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 866 2014-10-15 14:17:44 <Mikuru> A lot more descriptive than burn address, and accurate too.
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 875 2014-10-15 14:26:41 <czzarr> hello, can someone please explain to me the serializing algorithm in coins.h? I don't get it from the doc and have a really hard time understanding c++
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 877 2014-10-15 14:27:19 <czzarr> associated SE question: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/31978/how-does-serializing-in-coins-h-work
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 897 2014-10-15 14:38:13 <ligar> Odd question. Is it possible to seperate the function of block transmission and handeling from transaction\broadcasting handeling?
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 900 2014-10-15 14:38:39 <ligar> Idea being one node for one and another for the other.
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 903 2014-10-15 14:39:11 <ligar> question is basicly on a protocol lvl not bitcoind
 904 2014-10-15 14:39:28 <wumpus> yes, those uses of the network are separate
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 906 2014-10-15 14:41:02 <justanotheruser> ligar: You want one node that validates blocks and one that validates transactions?
 907 2014-10-15 14:41:02 <ligar> <- in the early brain stormimming of makinf a proff of consept of seperation the functions of bitcoind into conponate parts alowing seperate nodes to fill those functions (think internal cluster for a company)
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 909 2014-10-15 14:41:28 <ligar> justanotheruser: YES  using a comon but seperate DB
 910 2014-10-15 14:42:07 <justanotheruser> ligar: and a user wouldn't be running both clients?
 911 2014-10-15 14:42:17 <ligar> no
 912 2014-10-15 14:42:39 <justanotheruser> ligar: that wouldn't work very well
 913 2014-10-15 14:42:47 <wumpus> though you need the blocks (or at least, a utxo set) to verify transactions against
 914 2014-10-15 14:43:00 <ligar> correct
 915 2014-10-15 14:43:15 <ligar> the nodes would share a comon current unspent DB
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 917 2014-10-15 14:43:33 <justanotheruser> you could trust someone elses DB, but at that point, why even validate transactions?
 918 2014-10-15 14:43:37 <ligar> the node(s) handeling injesting would up date this
 919 2014-10-15 14:43:55 <ligar> justanotheruser: I would own all the boxes
 920 2014-10-15 14:44:06 <ligar> was thinking more High avalibiility
 921 2014-10-15 14:44:15 <justanotheruser> 10:34 < justanotheruser> ligar: and a user wouldn't be running both clients?
 922 2014-10-15 14:44:18 <justanotheruser> 10:34 < ligar> no
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 924 2014-10-15 14:44:20 <justanotheruser> so you mean "yes"
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 926 2014-10-15 14:44:35 <ligar> but not on the same computer
 927 2014-10-15 14:44:41 <ligar> or instance
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 929 2014-10-15 14:45:06 <ligar> I was wondering if the protocol allowed the handeling seperately
 930 2014-10-15 14:45:25 <justanotheruser> ligar: okay, now what does this accomplish being between computers?
 931 2014-10-15 14:45:52 <ligar> I would think it would scale better in the really long run
 932 2014-10-15 14:46:01 <ligar> Just wondering if it is possible
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 936 2014-10-15 14:46:39 <ligar> Something like this wouldn't be needed anywhere in the near time frame but maybe in 10-15 years
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 938 2014-10-15 14:47:31 <justanotheruser> ligar: I'm confused. Why is 2 servers cheaper than one?
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 940 2014-10-15 14:47:53 <ligar> It would be nice to be able to split the full blockchain into smaller node for storage
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 945 2014-10-15 14:49:05 <justanotheruser> ligar: do you know what SPV is?
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 947 2014-10-15 14:49:18 <ligar> nope
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 953 2014-10-15 14:50:15 <ligar> NM i have the power! (google)
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 959 2014-10-15 14:54:26 <ligar> I not really sure SPV invalidates what I was thinking about
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1041 2014-10-15 16:12:23 <Arnavion> Damn
1042 2014-10-15 16:12:52 <Arnavion> bitcoin-qt showed an error about needing to close because of a RunawayException or something, and to check debug.log
1043 2014-10-15 16:13:08 <Arnavion> I didn't think to screencap the dialog box, and debug.log's doesn't have anything about the crash
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1045 2014-10-15 16:13:16 <Arnavion> debug.log doesn't*
1046 2014-10-15 16:15:37 <Arnavion> Oh, it did print the dialog box's contents to stdout
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1050 2014-10-15 16:17:32 <Arnavion> http://privatepaste.com/ccdedc50f7   This is stdout and the last few bits from debug.log
1051 2014-10-15 16:19:02 <Arnavion> Oh, haha
1052 2014-10-15 16:19:18 <Arnavion> snapperd caused an error in btrfs and put the whole filesystem in read-only mode
1053 2014-10-15 16:19:30 <Arnavion> That explains it
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1058 2014-10-15 16:23:18 <ThomasV> any core dev here?
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1060 2014-10-15 16:26:37 <blast_> most of them are, although seemingly afk atm
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1073 2014-10-15 16:41:33 <coryfields_> sipa: full sync on osx without issue w/ headers-first. very speedy :)
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1081 2014-10-15 16:49:40 <jgarzik> ThomasV, generally yes
1082 2014-10-15 16:50:32 <ThomasV> jgarzik: I am listed as an author of bip39, but I actually disagree with its content. can you remove me from the list?
1083 2014-10-15 16:51:37 <jgarzik> ThomasV, can you submit a pull request for that?
1084 2014-10-15 16:51:45 <ThomasV> ok
1085 2014-10-15 16:52:02 <jgarzik> ThomasV, it will look much better coming from you, than anyone else
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1087 2014-10-15 16:52:31 <ThomasV> sure
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1092 2014-10-15 16:57:40 <gmaxwell> ThomasV: you can open a pull req is what I think jeff is saying. :) Will happily merge asap.
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1129 2014-10-15 17:33:05 <ThomasV> gmaxwell: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/111
1130 2014-10-15 17:33:29 <gmaxwell> merged.
1131 2014-10-15 17:33:53 <ThomasV> thanks
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1281 2014-10-15 19:42:24 <kruug> attempting to set up gitian to build with, but I keep getting this error when attempting to setup the lxc vm's http://paste.debian.net/127015/
1282 2014-10-15 19:42:53 <kruug> using these instructions
1283 2014-10-15 19:42:54 <kruug> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/gitian-building.md#create-a-new-virtualbox-vm
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1325 2014-10-15 20:34:27 <kruug> Anyone able to offer assistance with gitian?
1326 2014-10-15 20:34:46 <kruug> Since DevRandom doesn't offer much in the way of documentation/support channels :/
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1375 2014-10-15 22:03:09 <fanquake> coreyfields_ See my comment in #4993
1376 2014-10-15 22:03:33 <fanquake> I can make a pull for that if you intend on merging that fix.
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1416 2014-10-15 22:53:20 <coryfields_> fanquake: sure
1417 2014-10-15 22:54:15 <coryfields_> fanquake: please be sure to add it everywhere that's needed. i should think you'd need it for test-bitcoin_qt too
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1422 2014-10-15 23:01:02 <coryfields_> gmaxwell: ping
1423 2014-10-15 23:01:05 <gmaxwell> pong
1424 2014-10-15 23:01:41 <coryfields_> gmaxwell: are you familiar with our LockedPageManager ?
1425 2014-10-15 23:02:52 <gmaxwell> yes, it's kinda broken... it really needs a different appraoch (an allocator pool). Not super familar anymore, long time since I looked at it.
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1428 2014-10-15 23:03:54 <coryfields_> ok. up for discussing a 3rd approach, then? or... maybe briefly explaining why it'd benefit from pooling?
1429 2014-10-15 23:04:30 <coryfields_> (i'm looking to nuke boost there, for the sake of signing in a future lib)
1430 2014-10-15 23:04:40 <sipa> because now if you allocate 1000 times 4 bytes, you may end up locking 1000 pages
1431 2014-10-15 23:04:59 <sipa> pooling would reuse the already locked pages for multiple objects
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1434 2014-10-15 23:06:21 <sipa> coryfields_: there's no way you can avoid threading, right?
1435 2014-10-15 23:06:30 <coryfields_> ok, maybe 3rd option is worth discussing, then..
1436 2014-10-15 23:06:31 <sipa> and i don't want to go back to per-OS threading code
1437 2014-10-15 23:06:56 <coryfields_> sipa: i reimplemented using posix_memalign on a page boundary
1438 2014-10-15 23:07:27 <sipa> hmm?
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1440 2014-10-15 23:07:38 <coryfields_> so afaik, that means no need for bookkeeping, just lock the current pages and unlock when done
1441 2014-10-15 23:07:49 <coryfields_> that's why i wanted to discuss, i fear i'm missing some major aspect :)
1442 2014-10-15 23:08:18 <sipa> hmm
1443 2014-10-15 23:08:50 <coryfields_> are there many (any) cases where we're allocating > $pagesize ?
1444 2014-10-15 23:09:30 <coryfields_> where pagesize is assumed to be the lowest realistic size we'd encounter in the wild
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1447 2014-10-15 23:11:07 <sipa> coryfields_: no, the opposite
1448 2014-10-15 23:11:40 <sipa> so i think your approach would work, actually, but it makes the average case equal to the current worst case
1449 2014-10-15 23:11:51 <coryfields_> if no, then with posix_memalign aligned to page boundary, we can use our allocator to lock the current structure and know that it won't overlap with the next
1450 2014-10-15 23:11:54 <sipa> (a separate memlock for every allocation)
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