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 68 2014-11-09 01:00:10 <cfields> sinetek: i'd like to get in there with a machete once we move to c++11
 69 2014-11-09 01:00:32 <sinetek>  cfields: I'm really glad to hear this
 70 2014-11-09 01:00:51 <sinetek> What is the current policy regarding "std=" ?
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 73 2014-11-09 01:02:19 <cfields> default, so c++98 i think?
 74 2014-11-09 01:05:25 <sinetek> understood. so I imagine it's not a big priority right now
 75 2014-11-09 01:05:52 <cfields> it's been brought up as a possibility for post-0.10
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 77 2014-11-09 01:10:55 <sinetek> boost::signals2 is used in a few places, it's extremely slow apparently and another dependency on boost. could we move over to sigslot? it's small and depends on nothing but std::set and std::map
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 83 2014-11-09 01:16:38 <cfields> i don't have any experience with that personally, so i can't answer.
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 87 2014-11-09 01:20:32 <sinetek> ok. any one else? it's not consensus critical, would help compile times, and is something i could do
 88 2014-11-09 01:20:52 <sinetek> runtime as well
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 92 2014-11-09 01:26:24 <Luke-Jr> sinetek: re C++11, note we need to support compiling on stable distros
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 94 2014-11-09 01:28:10 <sinetek> indeed. to be honest there will come a point where boost will be an issue regarding this if your compiler is too old
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115 2014-11-09 02:15:07 <midnightmagic> fwiw, I've definitely run into issues re: boost compilation on a non-linux platform (netbsd)
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120 2014-11-09 02:24:55 <sinetek> midnightmagic: +1
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122 2014-11-09 02:27:07 <petertodd> cfields: re: assertions, bad handling of exceptions was something I identified as a security issue in my counterparty audit, as you could end up with your local consensus-critical state in a different state than others; failing fast and early prevents those issues and helps get humans into the loop earlier rather than later
123 2014-11-09 02:27:43 <petertodd> re: exceptions, keep in mind that *not* using them lead to the SIGHASH_SINGLE bug. they may be more complex under the hood, but I wouldn't rule them out so quickly
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158 2014-11-09 03:58:48 <NikolaiToryzin> gmaxwell, Ping
159 2014-11-09 03:59:25 <justanotheruser> stqism: haven't seen you here for a while
160 2014-11-09 03:59:46 <NikolaiToryzin> justanotheruser, I've always been around
161 2014-11-09 04:00:09 <NikolaiToryzin> justanotheruser, Was just reminded of something rather funny from bitcoin-core
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163 2014-11-09 04:00:29 <justanotheruser> a bitcoin-core joke?
164 2014-11-09 04:00:58 <NikolaiToryzin> justanotheruser, I'm inclined to believe this was a joke https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/net.cpp#L387-L400
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167 2014-11-09 04:01:48 <justanotheruser> NikolaiToryzin: well heres the answer you're trying to get from gmaxwell, from gmaxwell http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29zx7z/bitcoin_core_uses_showmyip_as_a_centralized_hard/ciqagq0
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169 2014-11-09 04:03:17 <NikolaiToryzin> justanotheruser, Curious as to why a node in a distributed network needs to know its own IP in the first place.
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171 2014-11-09 04:04:49 <sinetek> NikolaiToryzin: satoshi didn't know better
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452 2014-11-09 14:32:19 * Diablo-D3 is finishing mass effect, again: http://www.twitch.tv/diablod3/
453 2014-11-09 14:34:28 <chmod755> Diablo-D3, did you upgrade your twitch account with bitcoin?
454 2014-11-09 14:35:02 <Diablo-D3> chmod755: they do bitcoin now?
455 2014-11-09 14:35:24 <chmod755> Diablo-D3, https://twitter.com/Twitch/status/495394960573616128
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457 2014-11-09 14:35:38 <Diablo-D3> oh thats sexy
458 2014-11-09 14:35:44 <Diablo-D3> problem is I have no bitcoins left =/
459 2014-11-09 14:37:51 <chmod755> Diablo-D3, you don't have a bitcoin income? :o
460 2014-11-09 14:37:57 <Diablo-D3> not anymore no
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584 2014-11-09 18:18:00 <Guest61628> i'm looking at https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-examples#simple-raw-transaction
585 2014-11-09 18:18:21 <Guest61628> this part fails: bitcoin-cli -regtest createrawtransaction '''
586 2014-11-09 18:18:41 <Guest61628> i didn't copy every character into irc so i won't have to use a pastebin
587 2014-11-09 18:19:07 <Guest61628> error: Error parsing JSON:
588 2014-11-09 18:19:16 <Guest61628>        "txid": "",
589 2014-11-09 18:19:16 <Guest61628>         "vout":
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591 2014-11-09 18:19:34 <Guest61628> neither $UTXO_TXID nor $UTXO_VOUT exist
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593 2014-11-09 18:19:55 <Guest61628> $NEW_ADDRESS exists
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595 2014-11-09 18:22:10 <Guest61628> i guess i would have to create one of those by choosing one that's available in the listunspent
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613 2014-11-09 18:43:49 <Tykling> is this what you use nowadays when talking to bitcoin-core from python ? https://github.com/petertodd/python-bitcoinlib
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659 2014-11-09 20:15:13 <petertodd> Tykling: I'm a bit biased, but yes :)
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704 2014-11-09 21:13:22 <Tykling> petertodd: hah :) well it works well so far, thanks
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718 2014-11-09 21:22:53 <rdponticelli> I'm getting this on travis:
719 2014-11-09 21:22:57 <rdponticelli> https://bitcoincore.org/depends-sources/clang+llvm-3.2-x86-linux-ubuntu-12.04.tar.gz:
720 2014-11-09 21:22:57 <rdponticelli> 2014-11-09 20:59:35 ERROR 404: Not Found.
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752 2014-11-09 21:58:20 <fvdl> hello
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754 2014-11-09 21:59:15 <fvdl> i have a question about the p2pkh stack steps
755 2014-11-09 21:59:17 <fvdl> anyone ?
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757 2014-11-09 22:03:11 <fvdl> ?
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801 2014-11-09 23:02:41 <midnightmagic> does someone have a copy of clang-llvm-3.2-x86-linux-ubuntu-12.04.tar.gz somewhere I could download?
802 2014-11-09 23:02:52 <midnightmagic> the llvm.org download site appears to be down
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809 2014-11-09 23:08:40 <cfields> midnightmagic: it can't be redistributed, unfortunately
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811 2014-11-09 23:08:47 <midnightmagic> :-(
812 2014-11-09 23:08:55 <midnightmagic> gall dangit
813 2014-11-09 23:09:02 <cfields> er wait, sorry
814 2014-11-09 23:09:03 <cfields> wrong one
815 2014-11-09 23:09:14 <cfields> sec, checking
816 2014-11-09 23:09:22 <midnightmagic> ok
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820 2014-11-09 23:10:41 <cfields> midnightmagic: fixed
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823 2014-11-09 23:11:28 <midnightmagic> cfields: uh. what, the website?
824 2014-11-09 23:11:36 <cfields> midnightmagic: yea, hit that link now
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826 2014-11-09 23:12:24 <midnightmagic> http://llvm.org/releases/3.2/clang+llvm-3.2-x86-linux-ubuntu-12.04.tar.gz still not responding to my socal server
827 2014-11-09 23:12:31 <cfields> no, the backup
828 2014-11-09 23:12:36 <cfields> https://bitcoincore.org/depends-sources/clang+llvm-3.2-x86-linux-ubuntu-12.04.tar.gz
829 2014-11-09 23:12:39 <midnightmagic> Oh!
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833 2014-11-09 23:13:16 <midnightmagic> there we go, grabbing it now.
834 2014-11-09 23:13:23 <midnightmagic> cfields: thank you. is the .sig file in there too?
835 2014-11-09 23:13:28 <cfields> if it's down at the source url, we try our own as a backup. the file was named wrong there (we rename to take out the "+" since gitian doesn't like it and i accidentally uploaded it that way)
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841 2014-11-09 23:14:00 <cfields> midnightmagic: no, but the depends builder verifies the checksum after downloading
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849 2014-11-09 23:14:07 <midnightmagic> okie doke..  perfect.
850 2014-11-09 23:14:12 <midnightmagic> cfields: thank you very much
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860 2014-11-09 23:14:32 <cfields> np, sorry about that. the backup exists for exactly that reason
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