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  14 2014-11-17 00:12:18 <Luke-Jr> hate to nag, but block proposal still isn't merged, and is something we really should get in sooner rather than later IMO; wumpus wants to branch for 0.10 on Tuesday, so it's down to the last minute now..
  15 2014-11-17 00:12:29 <Luke-Jr> sipa: ^ you had commented positively on IRC, but didn't leave a github comment?
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  89 2014-11-17 01:52:03 <xuxu> does anyone here use bitcoinj?
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  96 2014-11-17 01:55:09 <BlueMatt> xuxu: #bitcoinj
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 107 2014-11-17 02:04:45 <xuxu> are micropayments ideal for tipping?
 108 2014-11-17 02:04:50 <xuxu> if you have a lot of people tipping a single person, wouldn't that result in a wallet of dust?
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 110 2014-11-17 02:05:33 <midnightmagic> xuxu: Probably best to ask that in #bitcoin. This is the dev channel. :)
 111 2014-11-17 02:05:56 <xuxu> thanks midnightmagic
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 301 2014-11-17 07:47:23 <wumpus> Luke-Jr: will take a look
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 311 2014-11-17 08:02:47 <BlueMatt> we need an option to connection to *.onion without a proxy set
 312 2014-11-17 08:03:15 <BlueMatt> ie using tor's magic dns mapping shit
 313 2014-11-17 08:04:49 <phantomcircuit> BlueMatt, -onion
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 318 2014-11-17 08:13:06 <wumpus> indeed, that's what -onion does, it sets a proxy but it is only used to connect to .onion
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 344 2014-11-17 08:54:11 <bitbit> Hi, how does the blockchain work with Ethereum? does it differ from how it's used with bitcoin? are there miners?
 345 2014-11-17 08:58:40 <justanotheruser> bitbit: #ethereum
 346 2014-11-17 08:59:15 <bitbit> I'm there and there's no one talking, I figured theres 4 times more users here :)
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 349 2014-11-17 09:02:29 <justanotheruser> bitbit: at the very least, make it bitcoin related and ask in #bitcoin
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 357 2014-11-17 09:07:51 <sipa> gmaxwell: the reason for using block psitions is that they are (much) smaller than block hashes
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 360 2014-11-17 09:08:38 <sipa> gmaxwell: though ideally i guess blocks would get a local 32-bit or 64-bit id, and we use that for referencing
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 374 2014-11-17 09:16:18 <gmaxwell> sipa: only the longest chain is in the txindex, so it could use height.
 375 2014-11-17 09:16:46 <sipa> no, everything is in the txindex
 376 2014-11-17 09:17:31 <sipa> or rather, "last seen"
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 501 2014-11-17 13:25:40 <wumpus> Luke-Jr: would be nice if #1816 had RPC tests for the new getblocktemplate functionality
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 503 2014-11-17 13:27:11 <wumpus> I'm not so sure how to go about manually testing it
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 563 2014-11-17 15:00:51 <jgarzik> wumpus, after watching #bitcoin-commits, still apparent that #bitcoin-dev needs a commit watcher also
 564 2014-11-17 15:01:05 <wumpus> why?
 565 2014-11-17 15:01:12 <jgarzik> wumpus, As I expected, #bitcoin-commits becomes filled with commits not necessary related to #bitcoin-dev
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 567 2014-11-17 15:01:22 <jgarzik> it fill up with bfgminer work and other commits
 568 2014-11-17 15:01:31 <sipa> yeah, i left the channel too because of that reason
 569 2014-11-17 15:01:34 <wumpus> I really prefer to leave bot stuff out of here
 570 2014-11-17 15:01:41 <jgarzik> when a nice, low traffic bitcoin/bitcoin.git feed would be on-channel and on-topic here
 571 2014-11-17 15:01:52 <jgarzik> it's a balance
 572 2014-11-17 15:01:57 <jgarzik> bots are fine, if low traffic and useful
 573 2014-11-17 15:02:15 <jgarzik> _just_ the bitcoin/bitcoin.git feed would be fine here
 574 2014-11-17 15:02:27 <sipa> no opinion on whether it should be in here (and there has been protest before)... but #bitcoin-commits to me personally is currently too annoying to join
 575 2014-11-17 15:03:13 <jgarzik> nod.
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 578 2014-11-17 15:04:33 <jgarzik> This channel #bitcoin-dev is exceedingly low traffic, except when there's on-topic activity.  Adding "or work" (commits) seems reasonable.
 579 2014-11-17 15:04:34 <wumpus> but what projects would be ontopic here? that starts that discussion again...
 580 2014-11-17 15:04:42 <jgarzik> bitcoin/bitcoin.git
 581 2014-11-17 15:04:51 <wumpus> btcd? obelisk?
 582 2014-11-17 15:04:51 <jgarzik> start small, grow later if needed
 583 2014-11-17 15:05:27 <jgarzik> Let's not overthink it.  Active channel denizens seem to intersect most with bitcoin/bitcoin.git.
 584 2014-11-17 15:05:39 <jgarzik> If people want more, we can have that discussion
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 588 2014-11-17 15:06:44 <wumpus> I'm fine with a bitcoin/bitcoin commits only channel, but rather not  here
 589 2014-11-17 15:07:16 <jgarzik> I think another channel is pointless.  Merges to bitcoin/bitcoin.git are infrequent enough that it is IMO on-topic and useful here.
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 591 2014-11-17 15:07:44 <jgarzik> Most other Linux kernel & Fedora communities I've worked with follow the same logic.
 592 2014-11-17 15:07:45 <harding> jgarzik: it looks like all the bfgminer commits made in -commits are by Not-1dff.  Maybe you can just /ignore that bot?
 593 2014-11-17 15:08:23 <jgarzik> not a valuable use of my time, pruning channel participants to make a useless channel useful
 594 2014-11-17 15:08:43 <sipa> i don't like the "bitcoin development is only about bitcoin core" message that that gives
 595 2014-11-17 15:09:12 <sipa> those of us who are actively following bitcoin/bitcoin development probably already watch it anyway in their github feed
 596 2014-11-17 15:09:26 <Jouke> *rss-feed
 597 2014-11-17 15:09:34 <jgarzik> sipa, If and when btcd devs show up and ask, by all means, turn it on.
 598 2014-11-17 15:09:35 <sipa> bitcoin/bips could go here perhaps, but meh
 599 2014-11-17 15:09:53 <wumpus> rather a  no-bot policy here
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 601 2014-11-17 15:10:03 <jgarzik> -1
 602 2014-11-17 15:10:06 <jgarzik> bots are useful
 603 2014-11-17 15:10:22 <Jouke> btcd devs have their own irc server and channel
 604 2014-11-17 15:10:55 <jgarzik> indeed.  it was a rhetorical point.
 605 2014-11-17 15:10:57 <sipa> maybe we need a separate channel for bitcoin core development (separate from protocol development)
 606 2014-11-17 15:10:58 <jgarzik> they won't
 607 2014-11-17 15:11:01 <jonasschnelli> btcd talks on irc.conformal.com:6697
 608 2014-11-17 15:11:33 <sipa> other wallet deverlopers are certainly not interested in many of the discussions we're having here either
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 610 2014-11-17 15:12:37 <jgarzik> the intersection of useful commits and useful devs arrives at bitcoin/bitcoin.git
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 612 2014-11-17 15:13:00 <jgarzik> other projects already have their own resources.  mentioned btcd was a rhetorical point to illustrate that.
 613 2014-11-17 15:13:58 <sipa> that effectively establishes this channel as the channel about bitcoin core development
 614 2014-11-17 15:14:07 <wumpus> well most of the talk here is pretty high level, I think it still makes sense to be here if you're not a bitcoin/bitcoin dev (and probably other people agree - otherwise there wouldn't be 470 users here...), but if someone wants to split up the channnels I'm not against it
 615 2014-11-17 15:14:09 <sipa> and i would rather not have that; even if it already is in practice
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 618 2014-11-17 15:16:31 <jgarzik> The reference implementation remains a reference implementation.  Not "the only" implementation but it is followed more than others.
 619 2014-11-17 15:16:37 <wumpus> #bitcoin-core-dev?
 620 2014-11-17 15:16:59 <sipa> jgarzik: fully agree with that, but i'm biased
 621 2014-11-17 15:17:25 <sipa> and the part that is reference is mostly the consensus code
 622 2014-11-17 15:17:44 <sipa> discussions about e.g. our GUI are totally irrelevant to anyone else
 623 2014-11-17 15:17:46 <wumpus> yes, if it was just changes to the consensus code it'd be different
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 625 2014-11-17 15:17:55 <wumpus> if only that was in a separate repository
 626 2014-11-17 15:18:09 <wumpus> but indeed, it will flood with gui changes for progress bar fixes etc too
 627 2014-11-17 15:18:25 <sipa> #bitcoin-core-dev is fine to me
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 632 2014-11-17 15:22:27 <hearn> i'd hope anything that affects other implementations/wallets will stay here. not just stuff traditionally considered consensus changes.
 633 2014-11-17 15:22:43 <sipa> right, fully agree
 634 2014-11-17 15:22:55 <sipa> anything network/protocol/consensus/policy related
 635 2014-11-17 15:23:54 <wumpus> hearn: yes, I was just talking about what would be acceptable for a commit bot here, I agree the topic of discussion here by human participants is allowed to be wider...
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 655 2014-11-17 15:54:04 <wiw> Hi all :) Is there any way to see/assume what a mining pool is mining?
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 657 2014-11-17 15:54:27 <sipa> if they choose to publish it, sure
 658 2014-11-17 15:54:39 <wiw> e.g. connect as a miner to the pool, ask for work, then look at the block they gave me to hash
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 661 2014-11-17 15:58:59 <wumpus> PSA: there is now a Bitcoin Core specific development channel at #bitcoin-core-dev, with commit feed for just bitcoin/bitcoin
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 667 2014-11-17 16:03:46 <wiw> i'll take that as a no. if i'm looking for a particular txn, i guess i'm only given the merkle root of txns (?), leaving me in the dark...
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 669 2014-11-17 16:04:29 <sipa> wiw: there's also no guarantee they're giving the same set of transactions to another miner
 670 2014-11-17 16:04:46 <sipa> so unless you end up mining the winning block yourself, there's really no way to know
 671 2014-11-17 16:04:54 <sipa> at least not with traditional protocols
 672 2014-11-17 16:05:24 <wiw> that i know. the question is do i know which txns my mining pool has given me to mine
 673 2014-11-17 16:05:36 <wiw> this is all guesswork of course
 674 2014-11-17 16:05:39 <sipa> you can't
 675 2014-11-17 16:05:46 <sipa> not with traditional mining protocols
 676 2014-11-17 16:06:17 <wiw> thanks sipa
 677 2014-11-17 16:06:46 <sipa> GBT does support that, but it's not commonly used directly between pools and miners
 678 2014-11-17 16:08:37 <wiw> common method these days is getwork as opposed to GBT?
 679 2014-11-17 16:09:12 <sipa> or stratum i guess, but i'm no expert
 680 2014-11-17 16:09:54 <wiw> ok thx :)
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 682 2014-11-17 16:15:10 <hearn> wiw: gbt is in general better for miners and the ecosystem, or would be it if was fully used
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 688 2014-11-17 16:21:59 <kouradas> http://www.dogeraiser.com/c/58 i made this dogeraiser and they scammed me. if you can help there is a hefty sum to be made check this post also http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2mkfvd/dogeraiser_repost/ 6 MILLION DOGECOIN
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 700 2014-11-17 16:37:12 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: there isn't really any easy way - we'd need to run in regtest mode or similar and throw every kind of invalid block at it
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 702 2014-11-17 16:38:32 <sipa> Luke-Jr: the rpc tests already run in regtest mode, and testing something is certainly preferably to testing nothing imho
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 705 2014-11-17 16:40:03 <wumpus> right, just a basic test that exercises the new functionality would be a good start
 706 2014-11-17 16:40:46 <Luke-Jr> is there a simple way to run them?
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 709 2014-11-17 16:42:03 <wumpus> cd  qa/rpc-tests && python <nameoftest>.py ?
 710 2014-11-17 16:42:21 <Luke-Jr> I presume I need to set bitcoind up in some way for that
 711 2014-11-17 16:42:24 <wumpus> no
 712 2014-11-17 16:42:54 <wumpus> they're self-contained
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 715 2014-11-17 16:44:50 <Luke-Jr> anyone mind if I keep the new tests independent from the LP ones so they can run fast? what's the best way to do that?
 716 2014-11-17 16:45:27 <wumpus> LP ones?
 717 2014-11-17 16:45:41 <sipa> longpolling?
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 719 2014-11-17 16:46:56 <Luke-Jr> right
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 721 2014-11-17 16:47:05 <Luke-Jr> the existing test takes 70 seconds to complete
 722 2014-11-17 16:47:36 <Luke-Jr> side note: I didn't see any disagreement on changing permitbaremultisig default.. just agreement and requests for stats nobody has
 723 2014-11-17 16:47:40 <wumpus> oh sure, if you think that makes sense, just copy the testcase to a new one and change it
 724 2014-11-17 16:48:07 <wumpus> Luke-Jr: it's controversial
 725 2014-11-17 16:48:20 <Luke-Jr> defaults should be considered inherently uncontroversial IMO
 726 2014-11-17 16:48:20 <sipa> yes it is :)
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 730 2014-11-17 16:50:24 <Luke-Jr> re testing: trial run with smartfees.py failed :P
 731 2014-11-17 16:50:47 <sipa> bah
 732 2014-11-17 16:50:52 <sipa> those tests really need to run in travis
 733 2014-11-17 16:51:43 <wumpus> some do now, afaik
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 737 2014-11-17 16:53:09 <Luke-Jr> anyhow, I think it's setting a bad precedent in a number of ways to NOT change the default when all the comments are in favour of it; dropping it now
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 740 2014-11-17 16:54:14 <wumpus> have you discussed it on the mailing list too? github issues are pretty limited in scope
 741 2014-11-17 16:54:35 <sipa> it definitely needs wider discussion
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 747 2014-11-17 16:58:23 <Luke-Jr> k, left a few comments on https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1816/files - will address the rest once I get some testing
 748 2014-11-17 16:59:06 * Luke-Jr wonders if there's a single rpctest he can use as an example of one passing
 749 2014-11-17 16:59:06 <wumpus> Luke-Jr: if you want to give it further discussion on the mailing list, I'm fine with reopening the issue, but it's far from clear-cut enough to me right now
 750 2014-11-17 16:59:34 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: well, if the cutoff for this change is tomorrow, I doubt it can resolve that in 1 day, so might as well wait until 0.11
 751 2014-11-17 16:59:48 <wumpus> right, it can't make it into 0.10 anyhow anyhow
 752 2014-11-17 17:00:52 <Luke-Jr> ok, going to focus on 0.10 stuff until it branches then
 753 2014-11-17 17:01:01 <wumpus> let's aim on getting #1816 in
 754 2014-11-17 17:01:11 <Luke-Jr> yay qa/rpc-tests/listtransactions.py works
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 756 2014-11-17 17:04:56 <Luke-Jr> bleh
 757 2014-11-17 17:05:06 <Luke-Jr> this will be a pain since we need to create our own coinbase
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 759 2014-11-17 17:05:57 <Luke-Jr> hm
 760 2014-11-17 17:06:06 <Luke-Jr> does regtest allow non-height-in-coinbase? :>
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 762 2014-11-17 17:06:28 <Luke-Jr> otoh, that's dangerous if it does..
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 783 2014-11-17 17:34:30 <Luke-Jr> # Copied from Eloipool (AGPLv3); MIT license granted for this snippet
 784 2014-11-17 17:34:37 <Luke-Jr> is this sufficient for a few functions copied from Eloipool?
 785 2014-11-17 17:34:49 <Luke-Jr> or probably not even necessary since I'm committing it
 786 2014-11-17 17:35:40 <Luke-Jr> ?
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 796 2014-11-17 17:48:51 <Luke-Jr> where are rpctests getting their bitcoind from? they don't seem to be using mine :/
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 804 2014-11-17 17:59:14 <gavinandresen> Luke-Jr: bitcoind/bitcoin-cli should be found in ../../src (default for test_framework.py —srcdir= option)
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 808 2014-11-17 18:00:13 <gavinandresen> Luke-Jr: okey doke, then pass —srcdir=./src ....
 809 2014-11-17 18:00:33 <Luke-Jr> thx
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 820 2014-11-17 18:04:47 <wumpus> Luke-Jr: if you're committing code you wrote yourself, you don't need to add that
 821 2014-11-17 18:05:39 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: ?
 822 2014-11-17 18:05:42 <Luke-Jr> ok
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 827 2014-11-17 18:06:57 <wumpus> (or at least, hold the copyright to)
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 835 2014-11-17 18:13:43 <Luke-Jr> ok, so confirmed regtest is failing to enforce block height in coinbase
 836 2014-11-17 18:13:48 <Luke-Jr> any easy fix? or should I ignore?
 837 2014-11-17 18:14:06 <sipa> it has no switchover date afaik
 838 2014-11-17 18:14:20 <sipa> i'd ignore that for now
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 881 2014-11-17 18:50:23 <cfields> gavinandresen: i'm not quite sure what to do about the win32 rpc tests, they act up on travis quite often
 882 2014-11-17 18:50:42 <cfields> gavinandresen: i haven't been able to narrow it down to anything, starting to wonder if it's an issue with wine itself
 883 2014-11-17 18:51:16 <sipa> only run them for native architectures?
 884 2014-11-17 18:51:34 <kanzure> i don't know any windows people that have time available, but testing in wine does not sound like a good idea to me
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 886 2014-11-17 18:51:41 <kanzure> i mean, if you are interested in targetting wine itself, that sounds fine
 887 2014-11-17 18:52:37 <kanzure> btw microsoft dumped some vagrant boxes of windows finally http://vagrantbox.es/ (at the bottom of the list)
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 890 2014-11-17 18:53:50 <cfields> sipa: sure, but there are obvious implications there. Afaik wine hasn't given us trouble elsewhere
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 919 2014-11-17 19:20:53 <Luke-Jr> ETA 5 mins on #1816 revision
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 921 2014-11-17 19:22:56 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: can we rename the 'core' directory before 0.10? :/
 922 2014-11-17 19:24:36 <Luke-Jr> I think that got hung up in bikeshedding
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 930 2014-11-17 19:29:24 <Luke-Jr> ok, #1816 comments addressed and tests added
 931 2014-11-17 19:29:32 <Luke-Jr> sipa: wumpus: ^
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 950 2014-11-17 19:51:58 <todam00n> anyone knows something about merged mining? I'm trying to calculate the hash the coinbasetx using the auxpow field returned by getblock and sometimes i get the expeceted txid and on a particular block, it doesn't work
 951 2014-11-17 19:52:01 <todam00n> really strange :/
 952 2014-11-17 19:52:42 <Luke-Jr> Bitcoin doesn't have any kind of merged mining code
 953 2014-11-17 19:52:56 <todam00n> yes I know
 954 2014-11-17 19:53:06 <todam00n> I was asking to altcoin devs
 955 2014-11-17 19:53:38 <todam00n> is there a better channel for that?
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 957 2014-11-17 19:58:05 <Luke-Jr> todam00n: ##altcoin-dev ; it's specifically off-topic/not-allowed in here (see topic)
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 982 2014-11-17 20:21:03 <todam00n> is there any easy way to inspect the raw data of a specific block?
 983 2014-11-17 20:21:42 <Luke-Jr> getblock <hash> false
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 987 2014-11-17 20:26:04 <BlueMatt> phantomcircuit/wumpus: no, no, silly...I can only connect to *.onion WITHOUT a proxy
 988 2014-11-17 20:26:09 <BlueMatt> I dont have a proxy to set...
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 991 2014-11-17 20:27:55 <wumpus> ah, you've redirected DNS to tor itself?
 992 2014-11-17 20:27:59 <BlueMatt> yes
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 994 2014-11-17 20:28:39 <wumpus> we indeed can't handle that at the moment
 995 2014-11-17 20:29:00 <wumpus> you could run a dummy socks5 proxy I guess ... :P
 996 2014-11-17 20:29:01 <BlueMatt> there should just be an override "I know I can connect to onions, shut up and try"
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1016 2014-11-17 20:51:13 <todam00n> Luke-Jr: thanks
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1018 2014-11-17 20:58:58 <isis> BlueMatt: if you're using a Tor Transproxy to redirect all your DNS, you might be able to jankily tell bitcoind to connect to bluemattonion.com and then, connect to Tor's ControlPort and do `MAPADDRESS bluemattonion.com=fubar01234567890.onion`
1019 2014-11-17 20:59:38 <isis> BlueMatt: although obviously that's kludgey and having a -no-seriously-onion bitcoind option is nicer. :)
1020 2014-11-17 20:59:40 <BlueMatt> actually, I have a dnsmasq proxy in between (to not forward non-onion dns requests to tor)...I could probably tell it to map .btconion to .onion or something
1021 2014-11-17 21:00:13 <isis> interesting… yes, that might work
1022 2014-11-17 21:00:42 <BlueMatt> still, probably quicker for me to implement -no-really-tor than to read dnsmasq man page...
1023 2014-11-17 21:01:06 <isis> true :)
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1038 2014-11-17 21:22:35 <droffel> So, i'm trying to write a program that will listen to the network for transactions relating to an arbitrary address.
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1043 2014-11-17 21:23:09 <phantomcircuit> droffel, bloom filters and/or parse the full blockchain
1044 2014-11-17 21:23:11 <droffel> My current thoughts are to pretend to be a validating node, and run through every transaction to create the next block, at which point I discard the block prior, until i'm caught up
1045 2014-11-17 21:23:33 <droffel> and then just pull each block on its own after its mined after that
1046 2014-11-17 21:23:46 <droffel> I haven't heard of bloom filters before
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1048 2014-11-17 21:25:07 <phantomcircuit> droffel, look into spv clients (simple payment verification)
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1052 2014-11-17 21:25:59 <droffel> phantomcircuit, can I shoot you a few messages in private?
1053 2014-11-17 21:26:18 <phantomcircuit> nope
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1055 2014-11-17 21:26:29 <phantomcircuit> better to ask where there's more eyeballs
1056 2014-11-17 21:26:32 <phantomcircuit> also im leaving
1057 2014-11-17 21:26:36 <droffel> damn, alright
1058 2014-11-17 21:32:14 <todam00n> ah damn it
1059 2014-11-17 21:32:36 <todam00n> i was multiplying a float by 1e8 in python
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1061 2014-11-17 21:32:47 <todam00n> 3 wasted hours
1062 2014-11-17 21:32:50 <todam00n> :'(
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1065 2014-11-17 21:33:04 <Luke-Jr> todam00n: problem
1066 2014-11-17 21:33:06 <Luke-Jr> ?
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1068 2014-11-17 21:33:33 <belcher> 1e8 is the number of satoshis in a bitcoin, if hes doing what i think he is
1069 2014-11-17 21:33:44 <todam00n> yes
1070 2014-11-17 21:33:56 <belcher> Decimal() baby
1071 2014-11-17 21:33:59 <todam00n> that's why some transactions wouldn't hash to the correct txid :(
1072 2014-11-17 21:34:08 <Luke-Jr> todam00n: I don't see the problem
1073 2014-11-17 21:34:12 <todam00n> i forgot to round after multiplying
1074 2014-11-17 21:34:15 <Luke-Jr> oh
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1076 2014-11-17 21:34:22 <Luke-Jr> yeah, that's important
1077 2014-11-17 21:34:42 <todam00n> i just saw this https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proper_Money_Handling_(JSON-RPC) :/
1078 2014-11-17 21:36:03 <todam00n> i was doing s_txout += int_to_hex(int(txout['value'] * COIN), 8) instead of  s_txout += int_to_hex(long(round(txout['value'] * COIN)), 8)
1079 2014-11-17 21:36:07 <todam00n> anyways, problem solved
1080 2014-11-17 21:37:06 <Luke-Jr> … why are you doing it in hex?
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1083 2014-11-17 21:40:01 <todam00n> im not sure.. trying to reuse electrum functions
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