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  28 2014-11-21 00:22:04 <Luke-Jr> sipa: libsecp256k1's "32bit" options are really "generic C", right?
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  34 2014-11-21 00:26:40 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: assuming you have a uint32 type. Really the whole library could be made to work where int is 16 bits (so long as there is a 32 bit type available) though I think it's very likely broken in that case right now.
  35 2014-11-21 00:27:16 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: uint32_t is required by C :p
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  37 2014-11-21 00:27:48 <gmaxwell> C89 doesn't give that type any particular name.
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  39 2014-11-21 00:28:20 <gmaxwell> (e.g. it may be unsigned long)
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  42 2014-11-21 00:29:16 <sipa> Luke-Jr: "32bit" also requires uint64_t
  43 2014-11-21 00:29:20 <gmaxwell> oh actually I'm wrong, actualy the 32 bit fields need access to a long long; which is only guarenteed by C99. (though pretty widely available even in c89 compilers)
  44 2014-11-21 00:29:39 <sipa> 64bit requires __int128
  45 2014-11-21 00:30:10 * Luke-Jr pretends C < C99 doesn't exist ☺
  46 2014-11-21 00:30:30 <gmaxwell> now I'm wondering if comparisons of long long on 32bit x86 produce the brancy mess that comparisons of int128 do on x86_64.
  47 2014-11-21 00:30:53 <sipa> gmaxwell: they do
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  49 2014-11-21 00:31:56 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: you can do that, but you can also predent that non-gcc non-clang systems don't exist... mostly it's the same as pretending the same thing. (well, I guess the very latest MSVC finally picked up some more of C99)
  50 2014-11-21 00:33:09 <sipa> some guy made an MSVC build env for it, so i'm sure it forks
  51 2014-11-21 00:33:10 <sipa> eh
  52 2014-11-21 00:33:12 <sipa> works
  53 2014-11-21 00:33:18 <sipa> that was a genuine typo!
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  69 2014-11-21 00:49:37 <gmaxwell> sipa: only in the very latest visual studio which can be a problem for existing projects.  (only the very latest version added var arrays)
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  72 2014-11-21 00:55:55 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: I explicitly ignore MSVC :P
  73 2014-11-21 00:56:06 <Luke-Jr> sipa: is that even possible? :o
  74 2014-11-21 00:56:21 <sipa> what possible?
  75 2014-11-21 00:56:21 <Luke-Jr> didn't know they finally got var arrays
  76 2014-11-21 00:56:41 <Luke-Jr> sipa: (apparently until recently) MSVC has never supported variable-size arrays
  77 2014-11-21 01:00:22 <gmaxwell> yea, the very latest version got them. I was surprised. God knows how they're implemented, they might malloc. :P
  78 2014-11-21 01:01:24 <Luke-Jr> sipa: did libsecp256k1 drop OpenSSL bignum support?
  79 2014-11-21 01:01:31 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: >_<
  80 2014-11-21 01:01:36 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: yes.
  81 2014-11-21 01:01:48 <sipa> yes, it was a pain to maintain
  82 2014-11-21 01:01:50 <sipa> and slow
  83 2014-11-21 01:01:50 <Luke-Jr> configure.ac still has a check for it
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  85 2014-11-21 01:02:01 <sipa> there are still unit tests that compare with openssl
  86 2014-11-21 01:02:02 <gmaxwell> we do use openssl in the tests.
  87 2014-11-21 01:02:20 <sipa> the library itself should never require openssl
  88 2014-11-21 01:02:55 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: ultimately I believe the gmp req will also go away.
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  92 2014-11-21 01:05:19 <sipa> also, i'd like to get rid of vararrays nonetheless
  93 2014-11-21 01:05:35 <sipa> (and gmaxwell even more, i guess)
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  95 2014-11-21 01:07:47 <gmaxwell> yea, I'll do that too. I wasn't going to stop with the comments, var arrays is probably next.
  96 2014-11-21 01:08:13 <gmaxwell> then non-block allocations, which will be an ugly patch (or probably several ugly patches).
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 116 2014-11-21 01:40:35 <gmaxwell> Luke-Jr: they actually make writing reliable code harder though. Since if you don't know in advance what the maximums are, then potentially some input can smash the stack irrecoverably.  If you do know in advance what the maximums are... no need for variability.  Of course, sometimes you might only care to optimizes for the average case instead of the worst case; but in an adversarial setting its usually the worst case that matters.
 117 2014-11-21 01:40:58 <gmaxwell> there are some rare cases where they can truly reduce the worst case usage, but they're rare.
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 119 2014-11-21 01:41:50 <gmaxwell> (e.g. say you have a recursive function of bounded maximum depth where the total allocated is constant, but the allocations could happen at any mixture of depths; without var arrays each call would always have to allocate the maximum)
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 121 2014-11-21 01:42:46 <Luke-Jr> I think GCC can generate stack smashing protections
 122 2014-11-21 01:42:51 <Luke-Jr> probably LLVM too
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 124 2014-11-21 01:43:07 <gmaxwell> yea, sure great, but when they trigger you're still crashed.
 125 2014-11-21 01:43:23 <gmaxwell> (and assuming nothing bad happened before they trigger, the canaries are only checked on return.
 126 2014-11-21 01:43:26 <gmaxwell> )
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 128 2014-11-21 01:43:49 <Luke-Jr> if you don't check explicitly, you crash anyway.
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 130 2014-11-21 01:44:16 <Luke-Jr> and when you don't check, the worst-case outcome is more dangerous (something else gets corrupted)
 131 2014-11-21 01:44:29 <Luke-Jr> var length arrays, the worst case is going beyond the stack size and crashing I think?
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 133 2014-11-21 01:44:58 <gmaxwell> no the worst case is that you corrupt the stack and in doing so give a bad guy control of the instruction pointer. :(
 134 2014-11-21 01:45:28 <Luke-Jr> var length arrays shouldn't make corrupting the stack possible..
 135 2014-11-21 01:46:09 <gmaxwell> they do, go try to do long long foo[2097152] and start writing to foo and see what happens.
 136 2014-11-21 01:47:02 <Luke-Jr> oh, the pointer overflows? :/
 137 2014-11-21 01:47:25 <Luke-Jr> though that example would only be ~16 MB
 138 2014-11-21 01:47:42 <Luke-Jr> but I guess if it's non-sequential access, that could be something else
 139 2014-11-21 01:48:07 <Luke-Jr> lame :<
 140 2014-11-21 01:48:34 <Luke-Jr> oh well, either way, you need to check lengths explicitly
 141 2014-11-21 01:48:43 <gmaxwell> stacks on x86_64/linux are 8mb normally. (IIRC 2MB on windows)
 142 2014-11-21 01:49:16 <gmaxwell> yea, sure but if you do that then you could have avoided the var array and just used the limit.  (don't get me wrong, I love var arrays and use them in all my throw away code)
 143 2014-11-21 01:49:46 <gmaxwell> I just don't think they're a good tool in high reliablity software.
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 151 2014-11-21 01:56:09 <Luke-Jr> gmaxwell: btw, Mac stack is like 512k
 152 2014-11-21 01:56:34 <Luke-Jr> that bit me when I was assigning a big struct :/
 153 2014-11-21 01:56:53 <Luke-Jr> (for some reason, LLVM seems to initialise the struct on the stack then copy it :| )
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 157 2014-11-21 02:06:22 <Diablo-D3> I will confirm that stacks on linux are absolutely huge
 158 2014-11-21 02:06:40 <Diablo-D3> having small stacks on modern machines makes zero sense tbh
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 167 2014-11-21 02:19:05 <Luke-Jr> for now, it seems libbitcoinconsensus does in fact need boost
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 172 2014-11-21 02:20:53 <fanquake> I’ve got a boost issue with it as well.
 173 2014-11-21 02:21:57 <fanquake> Also noticed that configure wont find boost HEAD installed via brew.
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 190 2014-11-21 02:46:08 <Luke-Jr> not sure if anyone cares at this point, but if USE_SECP256K1 somehow gets defined (bitcoin-config.h is never included in the relevant file), it won't build with current libsecp256k1 *shrug*
 191 2014-11-21 02:46:16 <Luke-Jr> uses old functions that are gone
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 196 2014-11-21 02:51:05 <lechuga_> Luke-Jr: are u working on gbt template mixing as part of your new effort?
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 198 2014-11-21 02:52:32 <Luke-Jr> lechuga_: if nobody else does, yes
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 200 2014-11-21 02:52:57 <Luke-Jr> (very likely from the past year)
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 202 2014-11-21 02:54:30 <lechuga_> is gbt work part of your immediate focus?
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 204 2014-11-21 02:55:51 <Luke-Jr> lechuga_: yes
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 206 2014-11-21 02:56:45 <lechuga_> what are u doing first?
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 208 2014-11-21 02:57:02 <lechuga_> (if u dont mind me prying)
 209 2014-11-21 02:57:30 <Luke-Jr> lechuga_: probably rewriting the BFGMiner side so it can handle the concept of work from multiple servers
 210 2014-11-21 02:58:13 <Luke-Jr> but I might have to do the pool side first so I can test that
 211 2014-11-21 02:58:39 <Luke-Jr> realitically, that needs the client for testing too
 212 2014-11-21 02:58:48 <Luke-Jr> so I'm in practice doing both concurrently XD
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 214 2014-11-21 02:59:59 <lechuga_> ic
 215 2014-11-21 03:00:02 <lechuga_> makes sense
 216 2014-11-21 03:00:35 <Luke-Jr> s/both/all three/
 217 2014-11-21 03:01:22 <lechuga_> why is BFGminer all C
 218 2014-11-21 03:01:33 <Luke-Jr> lechuga_: why would it be anything but C?
 219 2014-11-21 03:01:37 <lechuga_> C++
 220 2014-11-21 03:01:43 <Luke-Jr> C++ is heavy
 221 2014-11-21 03:01:49 <rodo_> hello room
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 224 2014-11-21 03:05:08 <Luke-Jr> lechuga_: some platforms running BFGMiner don't even have room for BFGMiner (uncompressed) - adding libstdc++ would overflow compressed
 225 2014-11-21 03:05:30 <lechuga_> heh
 226 2014-11-21 03:06:16 <lechuga_> awesome that you're getting funding to do this work
 227 2014-11-21 03:06:26 <lechuga_> it really needs to get done
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 259 2014-11-21 03:46:25 <Luke-Jr> anyone opposed to increasing default RPC threads high enough for solo mining testnet? probably like 20 or so I'm guessing
 260 2014-11-21 03:46:34 <Luke-Jr> testnet-in-a-box*
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 262 2014-11-21 03:46:44 <Luke-Jr> although now that I think of it, it's going to vary by hashrate, so maybe a bad idea
 263 2014-11-21 03:46:55 <Luke-Jr> (most of it is submitting blocks found "at the same time"..
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 266 2014-11-21 03:56:14 <cfields> Luke-Jr: libbitcoinconsensus does not build that file.
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 270 2014-11-21 03:57:24 <cfields> Luke-Jr: and yes, the USE_SECP256K1 stuff is stale, it's not intended to be used now.
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 272 2014-11-21 03:58:00 <Luke-Jr> cfields: libbitcoinconsensus does include that file somehow.. --without-daemon --without-utils --without-gui - am I missing something?
 273 2014-11-21 03:58:20 <cfields> sipa: ping re ^^. What do you want to do about the old USE_SECP256K1 for verification stuff? I'd prefer that it not be there if it's not supposed to work yet. maybe remove it until that stuff comes in later?
 274 2014-11-21 03:58:33 <cfields> Luke-Jr: make libbitcoinconsensus.la
 275 2014-11-21 03:58:43 <cfields> Luke-Jr: there should be no way that file is included
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 294 2014-11-21 04:25:14 <netg> Could an switch from LevelDB to LMDB be reasonable for Bitcoin (anytime)?
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 296 2014-11-21 04:29:11 <Luke-Jr> netg: switching db engines usually needs a reason
 297 2014-11-21 04:31:31 <netg> i am an ordinary person, i read in other cryptocurrency channels that developers stated lmdb is superiror to leveldb for blockchain-storing
 298 2014-11-21 04:31:47 <netg> i so try to find out its true by asking this question :)
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 301 2014-11-21 04:38:11 <gmaxwell> netg: if you'd like to switch it out in bitcoin-qt and provide benchmark results, I'd love to see it.  Database code is consensus critical so it has to be considered quite carefully. ... and in profiles leveldb isn't showing up as a huge bottleneck (though profiles are sometimes misleading)
 302 2014-11-21 04:38:14 <fanquake> cfields having trouble compiling master after the libconsensus merge. See https://gist.github.com/fanquake/cfae6837fc73f1f63456
 303 2014-11-21 04:39:05 <cfields> fanquake: mm, that's missing libstdc++
 304 2014-11-21 04:39:33 <cfields> libtool: ignoring unknown tag CXX
 305 2014-11-21 04:39:37 <cfields> did you see that before?
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 307 2014-11-21 04:39:55 <netg> tnx gmaxwell
 308 2014-11-21 04:39:57 <fanquake> Yes, thats been around for a while
 309 2014-11-21 04:40:24 <cfields> fanquake: are you doing anything odd with configure? It's trying to link with clang rather than clang++
 310 2014-11-21 04:40:48 <gmaxwell> netg: the benchmarks on the lmdb site are not helpful, in that they focus on workloads which are unlike ours (e.g. highly concurrent)
 311 2014-11-21 04:41:06 <cfields> the fact that it's using "clang" rather than some symlink from gcc leads me to believe that you're specifying it explicitly
 312 2014-11-21 04:41:07 <fanquake> Nope. Only —with-gui=qt5 and —enable-debug
 313 2014-11-21 04:42:09 <cfields> fanquake: do gcc/g++ not exist as symlinks to clang/clang++ for you?
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 316 2014-11-21 04:42:50 <fanquake> What’s the easisest way to check?
 317 2014-11-21 04:42:56 <cfields> which gcc
 318 2014-11-21 04:43:16 <fanquake> usr/bin/gcc
 319 2014-11-21 04:43:30 <cfields> which g++
 320 2014-11-21 04:43:44 <fanquake> usr/bin/g++
 321 2014-11-21 04:44:04 <cfields> mm, so why is it using clang by default? do you have CC/CXX exported in your env?
 322 2014-11-21 04:44:27 <fanquake> hmm, not that I know of.
 323 2014-11-21 04:44:38 <cfields> echo $CC; echo $CXX
 324 2014-11-21 04:45:25 <fanquake> That doesn’t echo anything.
 325 2014-11-21 04:45:42 <cfields> odd. can you pastebin your config.log?
 326 2014-11-21 04:46:49 <fanquake> https://gist.github.com/fanquake/bd9f2d4429cf1b830dc3 That is with just plain ./configure
 327 2014-11-21 04:47:55 <cfields> oh ok, it's running gcc, but output says clang
 328 2014-11-21 04:48:07 <cfields> (duh)
 329 2014-11-21 04:49:18 <fanquake> This is the old issue I was thinking of https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/3228 quite a bit of discussion
 330 2014-11-21 04:50:38 <cfields> fanquake: this one's not boost related. libbitcoinconsensus doesn't use boost
 331 2014-11-21 04:51:03 <cfields> rather, it appears to be trying to link with the c linker
 332 2014-11-21 04:51:10 <cfields> please do "make V=1" and pastebin
 333 2014-11-21 04:53:29 <fanquake> https://gist.github.com/fanquake/bb44d7b3616577a7cf44
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 336 2014-11-21 04:55:49 <cfields> fanquake: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Q7dPfKKW
 337 2014-11-21 04:55:54 <cfields> run that, please. it should work.
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 339 2014-11-21 04:57:42 <fanquake> clang: error: no such file or directory: 'core/.libs/libbitcoinconsensus_la-transaction.o'
 340 2014-11-21 04:57:52 <cfields> cd src first :)
 341 2014-11-21 04:58:01 <fanquake> ugh
 342 2014-11-21 04:58:07 <fanquake> haven’t turned my brain on yet
 343 2014-11-21 04:58:53 <fanquake> done that now, and then ran make but still have the same error
 344 2014-11-21 04:59:12 <cfields> no, don't run make. that line does the same thing that make does, but fixed
 345 2014-11-21 04:59:17 <cfields> it runs without error?
 346 2014-11-21 04:59:31 <fanquake> yes that runs without error
 347 2014-11-21 04:59:50 <cfields> ok, so the issue is just the libtool tag thing
 348 2014-11-21 05:00:01 <cfields> (i'm starting to _really_ dislike libtool)
 349 2014-11-21 05:00:26 <fanquake> I’m starting to get sick of osx
 350 2014-11-21 05:00:29 <cfields> fanquake: for now, you can ./configure --without-libs
 351 2014-11-21 05:00:52 <fanquake> cheers, will do
 352 2014-11-21 05:00:53 <cfields> fanquake: ok to poke at it tomorrow? I need to get to bed before too long
 353 2014-11-21 05:01:09 <fanquake> Yea no worries.
 354 2014-11-21 05:01:26 <cfields> that's a 100% workaround, it just avoids the actual problem
 355 2014-11-21 05:01:37 <cfields> though, i'm surprised you don't have other problems because of the root cause
 356 2014-11-21 05:01:39 <fanquake> Yep
 357 2014-11-21 05:02:00 <fanquake> There probably lurking somewhere
 358 2014-11-21 05:02:05 <fanquake> One unrelated issue, I’ve noticed configure wont pickup boost if you’ve installed HEAD
 359 2014-11-21 05:02:56 <cfields> that sounds likely related... it relies on c++ for tests
 360 2014-11-21 05:03:05 <cfields> not related for sure, but enough to be suspicious
 361 2014-11-21 05:03:30 <fanquake> hmm ok. Can debug later.
 362 2014-11-21 05:03:41 <fanquake> One thing I’m starting to wonder is if my XCode is somehow borked
 363 2014-11-21 05:03:43 <cfields> well, what's your work-around there?
 364 2014-11-21 05:04:15 <fanquake> Just using boost 1.56.0
 365 2014-11-21 05:04:33 <cfields> wait. you meant boost HEAD ?
 366 2014-11-21 05:04:41 <fanquake> Yea
 367 2014-11-21 05:04:46 <cfields> are you a madman? :)
 368 2014-11-21 05:05:11 <fanquake> Well I am australian
 369 2014-11-21 05:05:58 <fanquake> I don’t try and use HEAD specifically, just had it installed and linked, and noticed configure wasn’t seeing it
 370 2014-11-21 05:06:01 <cfields> i thought that just made you an asshole? you can still be clever :)
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 372 2014-11-21 05:06:43 <cfields> mm, i'm not touching that one. stable boost is enough to deal with.
 373 2014-11-21 05:06:47 <fanquake> ahah
 374 2014-11-21 05:06:58 <fanquake> I try to be clever.
 375 2014-11-21 05:07:15 <fanquake> I’ll leave being really smart ot the experts ;)
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 377 2014-11-21 05:09:01 <cfields> heh, nice cop-out
 378 2014-11-21 05:09:08 <cfields> i'll build on my osx box first thing tomorrow
 379 2014-11-21 05:09:37 <cfields> actually.. just did. finished faster than i thought. no problem here. You're on 10.10, i'd guess?
 380 2014-11-21 05:09:44 <fanquake> Just keeping up AUS US relations
 381 2014-11-21 05:09:50 <fanquake> nah 10.9.5
 382 2014-11-21 05:10:40 <cfields> mm, same
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 386 2014-11-21 05:11:35 <fanquake> I’’l play around a bit this arvo
 387 2014-11-21 05:11:54 <cfields> ok
 388 2014-11-21 05:12:02 <fanquake> Might actually have to install the entire Xcode app
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 390 2014-11-21 05:14:17 <cfields> do you know when you started seeing that tag warning?
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 392 2014-11-21 05:15:54 <fanquake> I’m fairly certain it was before we added the CXX tag to the makefile
 393 2014-11-21 05:17:06 <fanquake> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/6f155bdb80f045f8542550a5a9b97a00201fa0c5
 394 2014-11-21 05:18:28 <cfields> grep -m 1 available_tags ./libtool
 395 2014-11-21 05:18:30 <cfields> from srcroot
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 397 2014-11-21 05:20:33 <fanquake> Seeing No such file or directory
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 399 2014-11-21 05:20:58 <cfields> from the bitcoin/ dir?
 400 2014-11-21 05:21:05 <fanquake> mm
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 402 2014-11-21 05:22:38 <fanquake> I can see libtool though
 403 2014-11-21 05:22:52 <cfields> ok, no worries
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 407 2014-11-21 05:27:28 <cfields> fanquake: try one quick thing?
 408 2014-11-21 05:28:38 <fanquake> sure
 409 2014-11-21 05:29:13 <cfields> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pBwF2Wb0
 410 2014-11-21 05:29:20 <cfields> then ./autogen && ./configure
 411 2014-11-21 05:29:43 <cfields> that _should_ be redundant. but since your config isn't picking up on it, shouldn't hurt to be explicit
 412 2014-11-21 05:31:48 <fanquake> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DR1NBYB9
 413 2014-11-21 05:33:09 <cfields> see if it builds without that tag warning now, and without the libbitcoinconsensus error
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 418 2014-11-21 05:41:18 <fanquake> cfields Same error
 419 2014-11-21 05:41:38 <cfields> ok. will look into it some more tomrrow. thanks for testing
 420 2014-11-21 05:41:56 <fanquake> No trouble
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 423 2014-11-21 05:47:01 <gmaxwell> sipa: there is an unrelated travis timeout on https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5316  we should probably change run_ge to only run 1000 or 500 times, and perhaps insert some printfs in between tests in the secp256k1 tests since travis seems to care about output.
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 472 2014-11-21 07:27:08 <bitname> Are there any projects to create a coin that's blockchain is dedicated to a marketplace?
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 478 2014-11-21 07:31:08 <Luke-Jr> bitname: yes, but it doesn't require "a coin", it works fine with bitcoin
 479 2014-11-21 07:32:13 <bitname> Luke-Jr, do you know where would I find more info
 480 2014-11-21 07:33:07 <Luke-Jr> not sure - maybe #freicoin is appropriate, but maaku would know where is best
 481 2014-11-21 07:33:29 <bitname> Thanks Luke-Jr
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 503 2014-11-21 08:18:31 <xperia> hi all. i am having problem building bitcoin master. i am getting this compile error message here:
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 506 2014-11-21 08:19:25 <xperia> protocol.cpp: In member function 'std::string CMessageHeader::GetCommand() const': protocol.cpp:43:81: error: 'strnlen' was not declared in this scope
 507 2014-11-21 08:19:26 <xperia>      return std::string(pchCommand, pchCommand + strnlen(pchCommand, COMMAND_SIZE));
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 509 2014-11-21 08:19:28 <xperia> make[2]: *** [libbitcoin_common_a-protocol.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/bitcoin/src'  make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/bitcoin/src' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
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 511 2014-11-21 08:21:03 <jonasschnelli> xperia, on which plattform do you build?
 512 2014-11-21 08:21:33 <xperia> mingw windows. i had no problem with building bitcoin v0.9.3
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 514 2014-11-21 08:24:20 <paveljanik> had the same problem on a very old Mac OS X machine
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 519 2014-11-21 08:28:53 <xperia> paveljanik: your patch worked. compiles great here with your changes.
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 524 2014-11-21 08:35:41 <paveljanik> but I still didn't dfound the time to investigate when strnlen was standardized or if systems without it are already deprecated, sorry for that.
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 526 2014-11-21 08:36:24 <paveljanik> looks like it is POSIX.1-2008
 527 2014-11-21 08:36:26 <wumpus> xperia: you need to use a newer version of mingw
 528 2014-11-21 08:37:45 <wumpus> the one that we use for gitian does support strnlen
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 530 2014-11-21 08:38:10 <paveljanik> yes. I think it is not worth to add any workaround to the repo...
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 533 2014-11-21 08:40:43 <xperia> wumpus: thanks for the suggestion. it should be the newest version if i am not wrong. installed it a few days back. also updated all packages using aptitude like gui. looking to find version.
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 535 2014-11-21 08:41:48 <xperia> as said i had no problems with building compiling bitcoin v0.9.3 with the same mingw version but maybe master has some big changes and this is why it breaks now.
 536 2014-11-21 08:42:03 <wumpus> master has *lots* of changes since
 537 2014-11-21 08:42:19 <wumpus> thanks for trying though
 538 2014-11-21 08:43:35 <wumpus> must be possible to find a workaround for strnlen, although I'd prefer not ot
 539 2014-11-21 08:46:38 <paveljanik> but it would be nice to have it in the issues so people can find the solution.
 540 2014-11-21 08:46:58 <wumpus> well if he's already using the newest mingw then there isn't a solution
 541 2014-11-21 08:47:03 <paveljanik> xperia: do you care enough to file an issue for it? I'll add the patch I have used locally (hack)..
 542 2014-11-21 08:48:02 <wumpus> apart from changing the code, ie use AC_CHECK_FUNC([strnlen]) in the build system, then provide a helper function if it doesn't exist...
 543 2014-11-21 08:48:03 <xperia> paveljanik: i will be glad to do anything but i have absolute no clue what you mean with filing an issue. do you mean making a bug report ? if yes where ?
 544 2014-11-21 08:48:21 <wumpus> mingw at least http://sourceforge.net/p/mingw/bugs/1912/
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 547 2014-11-21 08:50:31 <paveljanik> xperia: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues, New issue
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 551 2014-11-21 08:54:38 <xperia> paveljanik: => https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/5338
 552 2014-11-21 08:56:58 <xperia> wumpus: so it looks like the bug report is still open in mingw. so installing newest version will not help if i am not wrong as mingw does not have any strnlen function while bitcoin is using one. so without a patch bitcoin could not be compiled anymore with mingw ?
 553 2014-11-21 08:57:20 <wumpus> xperia: the curious thing is that it works with the mingw used by gitian, which is used to build releases
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 557 2014-11-21 08:57:46 <wumpus> xperia: so there must be some way to coerce your mingw to have it as well
 558 2014-11-21 08:58:27 <wumpus> damnit, cannot even build ARM depends anymore
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 563 2014-11-21 09:02:49 <wumpus> oh, forgot to provide NO_QT and NO_WALLET
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 576 2014-11-21 09:34:16 <xperia> wumpus: paveljanik: i checked the mingw version and i can confirm that it is that ltest availble for download that i have installed => http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/?source=navbar
 577 2014-11-21 09:34:37 <wumpus> ok
 578 2014-11-21 09:35:12 <xperia> i got another build breaking error. this time with the database itself.
 579 2014-11-21 09:36:21 <xperia> Building LevelDB ...
 580 2014-11-21 09:36:22 <xperia> from helpers/memenv/memenv.cc:7:
 581 2014-11-21 09:36:24 <xperia> helpers/memenv/memenv.cc: In member function 'leveldb::Status leveldb::{anonymous}::FileState::Read(uint64_t, size_t, leveldb::Slice*, char*) const':
 582 2014-11-21 09:36:25 <xperia> helpers/memenv/memenv.cc:65:35: error: 'SIZE_MAX' was not declared in this scope
 583 2014-11-21 09:36:27 <xperia>      assert(offset / kBlockSize <= SIZE_MAX);
 584 2014-11-21 09:36:29 <xperia> make[3]: *** [helpers/memenv/memenv.o] Error 1
 585 2014-11-21 09:36:38 <wumpus> please don't paste all that stuff here, use a pastebin
 586 2014-11-21 09:36:50 <paveljanik> maybe the strnlen depends on the base OS. But I wonder how it could be connected...
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 589 2014-11-21 09:39:29 <sipa> cfields: yes, we should remove the USE_SECP256K1 stuff... it's easy enough to merge it back in again i guess
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 595 2014-11-21 09:47:37 <wumpus> paveljanik: my guess is that it's some -Dsomething that needs to be passed
 596 2014-11-21 09:48:12 <paveljanik> on my old system, there is no string strnlen in the headers at all.
 597 2014-11-21 09:48:28 <wumpus> but are you using a recent mingw like xperia?
 598 2014-11-21 09:48:43 <paveljanik> nono, I have the strneln issue on other system...
 599 2014-11-21 09:48:59 <paveljanik> I do not use Windows at all
 600 2014-11-21 09:49:00 <wumpus> 'old system' could mean mingw 4.4 or so, we don't support that
 601 2014-11-21 09:49:18 <paveljanik> I can reproduce the bug on Mac OS X 10.6.8 IIRC
 602 2014-11-21 09:50:10 <wumpus> xperia: I think I know the issue - we use ming-w64 to build, not mingw, http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64/?source=directory
 603 2014-11-21 09:50:19 <paveljanik> hmm, but the current master introduced too many new dependencies taht I first have to tackle them :-((
 604 2014-11-21 09:50:40 <wumpus> paveljanik: only libgmp
 605 2014-11-21 09:51:08 <paveljanik> yes
 606 2014-11-21 09:51:32 <paveljanik> on such old systems, this could mean something else as well
 607 2014-11-21 09:52:05 <xperia> wumpus: ahh yeah that could be. i use ming32 the 32 Bit version. still strange that a function like strnlen is missing in a 32 Bit version but availble in a 64 Bit Version
 608 2014-11-21 09:52:23 <sipa> mingw-w64 also does 32bit
 609 2014-11-21 09:52:25 <wumpus> xperia: no, mingw-w64 is *not* the 64 bit version, it's just a fork of mingw that supports both 32 and 64 bit
 610 2014-11-21 09:52:58 <wumpus> I really wish they had chosen a different name, everyone gets that confusion
 611 2014-11-21 09:53:28 <xperia> ahhh okey well fork say it all then.
 612 2014-11-21 09:54:25 <Diablo-D3> the important part to understand is
 613 2014-11-21 09:54:33 <Diablo-D3> msys2 uses mingw-w64 instead of mingw
 614 2014-11-21 09:54:47 <Diablo-D3> ALL GLORY TO MSYS2
 615 2014-11-21 09:54:57 <wumpus> hehe
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 617 2014-11-21 09:56:47 <Diablo-D3> seriously, if it wernt for msys2, I would ahve driven to the microsoft campus in washington, and burned the whole motherfucker down by now
 618 2014-11-21 09:58:46 <wumpus> that would be like kicking a dead horse
 619 2014-11-21 09:59:29 <phantomcircuit> wumpus, people do that
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 621 2014-11-21 09:59:37 <Diablo-D3> no, it would be safely disposing of its corpse as to prevent the spread of disease
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 627 2014-11-21 10:07:07 <xperia> wumpus: ahh okey i got it. i thinked the mingw-w64 is the same package like mingw64 the 64 Bit mingw version. indeed confusing.
 628 2014-11-21 10:07:08 <xperia> btw. what LevelDB version works with bitcoin 0.9.99 ? I have "db-4.8.30.NC" and it breaks bitcoin compilation with this line here
 629 2014-11-21 10:07:10 <xperia> helpers/memenv/memenv.cc: In member function 'leveldb::Status leveldb::{anonymous}::FileState::Read(uint64_t, size_t, leveldb::Slice*, char*) const': helpers/memenv/memenv.cc:65:35: error: 'SIZE_MAX' was not declared in this scope
 630 2014-11-21 10:07:11 <xperia> this need to be solved. any suggestions ?
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 633 2014-11-21 10:07:58 <sipa> xperia: the one in the bitcoin source code should work
 634 2014-11-21 10:08:12 <sipa> src/leveldb
 635 2014-11-21 10:08:44 <Belxjander> is there any limitations on using other DB systems instead of bdb and leveldb?
 636 2014-11-21 10:09:04 <sipa> if you implement the changes to use another, sure
 637 2014-11-21 10:09:32 <sipa> they're really just key-value stores with atomic batch writes
 638 2014-11-21 10:10:16 <Belxjander> Then MongoDB should have little or no issue then?
 639 2014-11-21 10:11:10 <sipa> why the hell would you want to use that?
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 641 2014-11-21 10:13:02 <sipa> we don't need indexes, the data is not useful to other applications, we don't support multiple processes accessing the same data, and it's only a few 100 MB
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 644 2014-11-21 10:15:00 <xperia> sipa. okey thanks for the tip related LevelDB. checked my configuration settings to see if i changed anything to DB related stuff and it appears it was nothing changed. i expected bitcoin works with BDB is this not anymore the case for 0.9.99 ? sorry to ask such question i just started studying bitcoin.
 645 2014-11-21 10:15:26 <sipa> xperia: the wallet (still) uses BDB; everything else uses LevelDB
 646 2014-11-21 10:15:35 <sipa> since 0.8.0
 647 2014-11-21 10:16:00 <gmaxwell> how can travis be kicked if its had a spurrious timeout?
 648 2014-11-21 10:16:21 <wumpus> you can go to the travis page, and click the reload/refresh icon
 649 2014-11-21 10:16:27 <sipa> oh really?!
 650 2014-11-21 10:16:39 <wumpus> yes
 651 2014-11-21 10:16:46 <sipa> wait, does that rerun the test?
 652 2014-11-21 10:16:50 <wumpus> yes
 653 2014-11-21 10:17:12 <wumpus> or may be something special that I have because I'm logged in?
 654 2014-11-21 10:17:28 <gmaxwell> yea, I don't see it.
 655 2014-11-21 10:17:54 <wumpus> ok, which one do you need restarted?
 656 2014-11-21 10:19:45 <xperia> sipa: ahhh okey thanks for the info. good to know. any suggestion why then the bitcoin LevelDB fails/breaks to compile in master branch? is this a known issue?
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 658 2014-11-21 10:20:07 <sipa> seems to work here, and in mingw-w64
 659 2014-11-21 10:20:14 <wumpus> xperia: you're having mingw specific issues, please upgrade to mingw-w64
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 661 2014-11-21 10:20:41 <xperia> wumpus: okey thanks will do it then.
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 663 2014-11-21 10:23:16 <Belxjander> sipa: using mongodb is overkill then? if I wanted multiple nodes to run a common blockchain but local wallets?
 664 2014-11-21 10:23:31 <wumpus> there is no 'known issue' because no one else builds with your specific compiler/environment
 665 2014-11-21 10:23:37 <sipa> Belxjander: use one node, plus several SPV wallets
 666 2014-11-21 10:24:24 <sipa> Belxjander: as i said, multiple nodes using the same blockchain is not supported - the database is not intended to be shared with other processes
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 668 2014-11-21 10:27:36 <Belxjander> sipa well I have a lot to learn then
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 673 2014-11-21 10:29:56 <jonasschnelli> sipa: is there a reason why the wallet still uses BDB?
 674 2014-11-21 10:30:06 <sipa> jonasschnelli: nobody did the work to change it
 675 2014-11-21 10:30:17 <wumpus> jonasschnelli: backwards compatibility
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 677 2014-11-21 10:30:37 <jonasschnelli> is there any discussion about a standard wallet format? or what would be appropriate?
 678 2014-11-21 10:31:01 <sipa> plus, even though technically we could pretty much switch to LevelDB as a drop-in replacement, that would be very inconvenient, because a database in leveldb is a whole directory
 679 2014-11-21 10:31:33 <sipa> jonasschnelli: i suggested/worked on a very simple append-only checksummed key-value store file format for a while (and had it somewhat working in bitcoin core)
 680 2014-11-21 10:32:13 <sipa> jonasschnelli: regarding 'standard format': i don't believe in that - i don't think people agree what wallet best practices are, or even what exactly a wallet is in terms of database structure
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 683 2014-11-21 10:33:21 <jonasschnelli> sipa: is there any significant performance situations why you suggest append only?
 684 2014-11-21 10:33:42 <sipa> performance is utterly irrelevant; the whole wallet in loaded into memory anyway
 685 2014-11-21 10:34:01 <sipa> it's just for consistency
 686 2014-11-21 10:34:39 <sipa> read in a bunch of checksummed records; if you reach the end, or read an incorrect checksum, stop
 687 2014-11-21 10:34:41 <jonasschnelli> sipa just thinking with my humble brain: can it not be a human readable format like json or something?
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 689 2014-11-21 10:35:01 <sipa> jonasschnelli: can you read transactions? hashes?
 690 2014-11-21 10:35:04 <sipa> what's the point
 691 2014-11-21 10:35:28 <sipa> a text format could be used, sure, and even be append-only
 692 2014-11-21 10:35:38 <sipa> with long sequences of hex in it
 693 2014-11-21 10:36:17 <jonasschnelli> of course the wallet file size would be double or even more... but still more convenient for most users and developers
 694 2014-11-21 10:36:32 <sipa> it's not like you could edit it manually
 695 2014-11-21 10:36:37 <sipa> or use much of what is inside
 696 2014-11-21 10:36:43 <sipa> without breaking consistency
 697 2014-11-21 10:36:58 <jonasschnelli> Yes. sure. But it would be better understandable for other devs
 698 2014-11-21 10:37:09 <sipa> perhaps
 699 2014-11-21 10:37:11 <jonasschnelli> And at least some experience users could have "a look at it"
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 704 2014-11-21 10:40:49 <gmaxwell> wumpus: can you kick https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/builds/41664968 for rebuild in travis?
 705 2014-11-21 10:41:22 <btcdrak> has anyone noticed bitcoin compile is borked?
 706 2014-11-21 10:41:54 <btcdrak> I get make[3]: *** No rule to make target `libsecp256k1.la'. Stop.
 707 2014-11-21 10:41:54 <btcdrak>  on the latest master
 708 2014-11-21 10:42:07 <wumpus> btcdrak: re-run ./autogen.sh
 709 2014-11-21 10:42:18 <wumpus> gmaxwell: done
 710 2014-11-21 10:42:34 <gmaxwell> jonasschnelli: making the file many times larger via encoding does make it more vulnerable to corruption.  Also there are internal references between data in the file, just going in and editing it will result in corruption... which then means more code to deal with non-sensible wallets, or more users bumping their heads into sharp corners when those cases aren't handled.
 711 2014-11-21 10:43:07 <gmaxwell> having diagnostic tools for dumping and inspecting all sound reasonable to me.
 712 2014-11-21 10:44:21 <jonasschnelli> okay. larger files = more corruption risks. That's right.
 713 2014-11-21 10:44:36 <jonasschnelli> But i'm still thinking if the file backend is the only thing.
 714 2014-11-21 10:44:46 <jonasschnelli> I would love to see my keys in my OS keychain.
 715 2014-11-21 10:45:04 <jonasschnelli> metadata could still be kept in a file.
 716 2014-11-21 10:45:22 <wumpus> aren't there wallets that do that yet?
 717 2014-11-21 10:45:27 <btcdrak> wumpus I get the same error after rerunning autogen
 718 2014-11-21 10:45:42 <wumpus> btcdrak: have you also re-run configure?
 719 2014-11-21 10:45:44 <jonasschnelli> wumpus not that i know of. I once tried that with "MacWallet".
 720 2014-11-21 10:45:46 <gmaxwell> jonasschnelli: it's very important that the wallet be _consistent_. Seperating parts out isn't helpful ... now, putting e.g. wallet encryption keys in the OS keyring seems reasonable to me.
 721 2014-11-21 10:46:11 <wumpus> or the wallet seed in case of a deterministic wallet
 722 2014-11-21 10:46:16 <jonasschnelli> gmaxwall okay. i see.
 723 2014-11-21 10:46:21 <btcdrak> wumpus: yes
 724 2014-11-21 10:46:26 <jonasschnelli> wumpus, that's another storry.
 725 2014-11-21 10:46:53 <jonasschnelli> I would love to help implementing BIP32... but it just seams to be complex for me.
 726 2014-11-21 10:47:04 <wumpus> btcdrak: hm, try wiping the entire build directory and starting from scratch
 727 2014-11-21 10:47:14 <sipa> btcdrak: which commit are you at?
 728 2014-11-21 10:47:27 <wumpus> jonasschnelli: it really doesn't have to be within the scope of bitcoin core
 729 2014-11-21 10:48:04 <jonasschnelli> you mean a separate wallet wich uses bitcoin-core as full node backend?
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 733 2014-11-21 10:48:14 <sipa> jonasschnelli: which is like every single spv wallet :)
 734 2014-11-21 10:48:27 <wumpus> jonasschnelli: yes, like any SPV wallet
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 736 2014-11-21 10:48:36 <wumpus> just tell it to only connect to your node
 737 2014-11-21 10:48:53 <btcdrak> wumpus: same result
 738 2014-11-21 10:49:01 <wumpus> btcdrak: no clue then
 739 2014-11-21 10:49:13 <jonasschnelli> Does normal endusers have one VPS/roots with a node running?
 740 2014-11-21 10:50:08 <sipa> do they need to?
 741 2014-11-21 10:50:11 <netg> most people and irc or BCT have
 742 2014-11-21 10:50:21 <netg> the others not so much
 743 2014-11-21 10:51:19 <btcdrak> btw wumpus there is something odd in the build logs: https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/jobs/41664969#L1310 it's a git command being run which is obviously wrong
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 745 2014-11-21 10:51:50 <sipa> btcdrak: known but harmless
 746 2014-11-21 10:51:56 <wumpus> jonasschnelli: what are 'normal endusers'?
 747 2014-11-21 10:52:09 <sipa> jonasschnelli: i expect normal endusers to just run an SPV client
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 750 2014-11-21 10:52:24 <sipa> (or more centralized things :'( )
 751 2014-11-21 10:52:40 <wumpus> the lowest denomination would be using one of the android SPV wallets, probably
 752 2014-11-21 10:53:10 <wumpus> not pointed at a specific node
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 763 2014-11-21 11:17:11 <btcdrak> wumpus solved, i was missing a new dependency libgmp-dev
 764 2014-11-21 11:18:03 <sipa> btcdrak: it should tell you that it couldn't find a num implementation then... not that there is no libsecp256k1.la
 765 2014-11-21 11:18:08 <sipa> during configure
 766 2014-11-21 11:18:49 <btcdrak> sipa: dunno, it just works now.
 767 2014-11-21 11:19:00 <sipa> ok!
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 769 2014-11-21 11:20:56 <wumpus> yes, the conifigure would have shown that
 770 2014-11-21 11:21:08 <wumpus> it is easy to ignore if you're used to configure succeeding
 771 2014-11-21 11:21:14 <sipa> we should rename our configure to coinfigure, i guess
 772 2014-11-21 11:21:20 <wumpus> hehe
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 922 2014-11-21 14:44:02 <sipa> how are those python tests supposed to work?
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 924 2014-11-21 14:44:44 <sipa> i always get method not found
 925 2014-11-21 14:45:00 <jtimon> ping #5111
 926 2014-11-21 14:46:13 <sipa> jtimon: not really a priority now :)
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 928 2014-11-21 14:46:33 <sipa> jtimon: also, seems to need rebase
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 931 2014-11-21 14:47:14 <jtimon> I know, but I mean the only reason it was separated from #5100 was to keep the former move-only
 932 2014-11-21 14:47:26 <jtimon> oh, yes, I should rebase it
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 936 2014-11-21 14:55:16 <wumpus> sipa: you should just be able to run them
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 938 2014-11-21 14:56:00 <wumpus> if it doesn't guess the srcdir right you can provide that, see qa/pull-tester/rpc-tests.sh
 939 2014-11-21 14:57:31 <sipa> same
 940 2014-11-21 14:57:39 <sipa> https://0bin.zertrin.org/paste/b527e5d0711fa2467334de22e9b19086c771d3fc#EpD1IwdxeKFmQtYx/M8XjUvnyZA5kO+BuC10+GHj9AQ=
 941 2014-11-21 14:57:41 <gavinandresen> sipa: what version of python are you running?
 942 2014-11-21 14:57:42 <wumpus> for *all* of them?
 943 2014-11-21 14:57:52 <sipa> yes
 944 2014-11-21 14:58:01 <sipa> 2.7.6
 945 2014-11-21 14:58:15 <wumpus> are you running it against the right version of bitcoind?
 946 2014-11-21 14:58:34 <gavinandresen> sipa: try ./smartfees.py —tracerpc
 947 2014-11-21 14:58:45 <wumpus> seems it can't find the RPC method, maybe some new RPC method was added in between?
 948 2014-11-21 14:58:58 <sipa> wumpus: all scripts give that
 949 2014-11-21 14:59:03 <wumpus> shouldn't happen as it spins up its own bitcoind
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 951 2014-11-21 14:59:06 <wumpus> but stil.
 952 2014-11-21 14:59:11 <gavinandresen> they all setup a cache directory, and use setmocktime.....
 953 2014-11-21 14:59:12 <sipa> let me reconfigure etc
 954 2014-11-21 14:59:50 <wumpus> travis also runs them succesfully so it must be a local problem
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 959 2014-11-21 15:00:19 <sipa> oh
 960 2014-11-21 15:00:29 <sipa> i likely was using a build without wallet support
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 962 2014-11-21 15:00:46 <wumpus> ah, yes then at least the wallet-related tests won't work
 963 2014-11-21 15:00:55 <sipa> the other ones fail too
 964 2014-11-21 15:01:05 <sipa> sec, rebuilding
 965 2014-11-21 15:01:08 <gavinandresen> that’d do it.  the test framework should probably test for that and give a good error
 966 2014-11-21 15:02:11 <wumpus> I don't think all of them require a wallet, but most do
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 970 2014-11-21 15:02:51 <wumpus> oh wait... probably all of them do; they use regtest and the internal miner
 971 2014-11-21 15:02:57 <sipa> ha
 972 2014-11-21 15:03:00 <sipa> of course
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 976 2014-11-21 15:06:52 <sipa> seems to continue further now at least :)
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1165 2014-11-21 19:02:36 <Luke-Jr> sipa: cfields: http://dpaste.com/0SZ5N6Q any ideas?
1166 2014-11-21 19:04:06 <cfields> Luke-Jr: first guess would be the hand-rolled asm isn't pic friendly
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1168 2014-11-21 19:04:13 <cfields> Luke-Jr: i can have a look in a min
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1171 2014-11-21 19:04:44 <Luke-Jr> cfields: different issue I think
1172 2014-11-21 19:05:23 <Luke-Jr> I think we need to add something liek this to the yasm: http://codepad.org/3qcjNsiX
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1174 2014-11-21 19:05:39 <Luke-Jr> this is outside my scope of testing, since I'm 32-bit :x
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1176 2014-11-21 19:06:11 <cfields> Luke-Jr: throw scanelf at it and see what the exact problem is?
1177 2014-11-21 19:06:43 <Luke-Jr> cfields: isn't that last line of the first paste from scanelf?
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1180 2014-11-21 19:08:52 <cfields> yea, i see
1181 2014-11-21 19:09:42 <cfields> looks like you're right. testing now.
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1185 2014-11-21 19:15:14 <cfields> Luke-Jr: confirmed fixed with that
1186 2014-11-21 19:15:31 <Luke-Jr> might check if x32 has a different elf thing there
1187 2014-11-21 19:15:38 <Luke-Jr> not sure if there's a one check we can use
1188 2014-11-21 19:17:05 <cfields> gentoo says there's elf32. no idea what that implies
1189 2014-11-21 19:17:35 <Luke-Jr> hm
1190 2014-11-21 19:17:38 * Luke-Jr looks up docs
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1192 2014-11-21 19:18:35 <cfields> but either way, that asm obviously only builds for 64bit, so it wouldn't be in there for a real 32bit elf anyway
1193 2014-11-21 19:18:36 <helo> what's up docs?
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1195 2014-11-21 19:18:59 <Luke-Jr> cfields: the asm builds for x32 too
1196 2014-11-21 19:19:59 <cfields> Luke-Jr: i know. my point is that even if elf32 means only a native 32bit elf, it would be harmless since it couldn't be reached anyway
1197 2014-11-21 19:20:44 <Luke-Jr> right
1198 2014-11-21 19:20:57 <Luke-Jr> docs suggest 'elf' == 'elf32'
1199 2014-11-21 19:21:03 <Luke-Jr> so we want 'elf64' and 'elfx32' I guess
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1203 2014-11-21 19:21:55 <cfields> i defer to you on the details. just confirming that 64bit is fixed :)
1204 2014-11-21 19:21:59 <Luke-Jr> added to my fixups branch
1205 2014-11-21 19:22:04 <cfields> thanks for finding
1206 2014-11-21 19:23:31 <Luke-Jr> blueness found it ;)
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1211 2014-11-21 19:25:50 <cfields> Luke-Jr: may be worth grabbing some of bitcoin's other hardening flags
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1213 2014-11-21 19:26:35 <cfields> relro/binding/etc
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1217 2014-11-21 19:28:40 <Luke-Jr> cfields: not sure relro makes sense here - but I'm no expert on x86 assembly stuffs
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1223 2014-11-21 19:33:16 <cfields> Luke-Jr: admittedly i'm not either
1224 2014-11-21 19:33:49 <Luke-Jr> what was the reason for not just using inline asm again? :P
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1329 2014-11-21 21:56:22 <BlueMatt> isnt https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L925 duplicate code?
1330 2014-11-21 21:56:24 <BlueMatt> sipa: ^
1331 2014-11-21 21:56:53 <BlueMatt> (ie we move on to check that coins are available via viewMemPool in the next step, so why do we have to check it previously)
1332 2014-11-21 21:57:25 <BlueMatt> (also, if its not, there should be a race around the pool.cs lock, no?)
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1352 2014-11-21 22:19:56 <BlueMatt> actually, nvm, CTxMemPoolView doesnt filter out spent-in-mempool
1353 2014-11-21 22:20:52 <sipa> not yet
1354 2014-11-21 22:21:03 <sipa> andytoshi has a patch that does that
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1356 2014-11-21 22:21:36 <sipa> and the reason it wasn't done is because we used to be able to distinguish between existed-but-already-spent and doesnt-exist
1357 2014-11-21 22:21:57 <sipa> but since 0.8 that became harder, and with the various utxo cache optimizations even hardere
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1366 2014-11-21 22:40:55 <cfields> gavinandresen: around?
1367 2014-11-21 22:41:41 <Luke-Jr> weird, libbitcoinconsensus seems to not build without libsecp256k1 code
1368 2014-11-21 22:42:08 <cfields> gavinandresen: i've managed to cobble together a successful detached dmg signer. let me know when you've got ~10min to give it a try
1369 2014-11-21 22:43:04 <cfields> Luke-Jr: huh?
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1372 2014-11-21 22:43:37 <Luke-Jr> cfields: trying to build it with src/secp256k1 gone (and the autotools requirements for it removed)
1373 2014-11-21 22:43:48 <Luke-Jr> seems it still gets #included
1374 2014-11-21 22:44:14 <cfields> Luke-Jr: i don't see how, unless something slipped in in the last day or two
1375 2014-11-21 22:44:34 <cfields> Luke-Jr: i built on wed, i think, completely out of tree
1376 2014-11-21 22:44:38 <Luke-Jr> in key.cpp
1377 2014-11-21 22:45:05 <cfields> it doesn't require key.cpp
1378 2014-11-21 22:45:53 <Luke-Jr> well, building only the lib tries to compile it
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1381 2014-11-21 22:46:43 <cfields> Luke-Jr: the required files are completely explicit in the makefile
1382 2014-11-21 22:46:51 <cfields> Makefile.am:343
1383 2014-11-21 22:47:33 <sipa> are you somehow building with USE_LIBSECP256K1?
1384 2014-11-21 22:48:23 <Luke-Jr> sipa: pretty sure not
1385 2014-11-21 22:48:48 <Luke-Jr> I didn't see any possible way for that to get set
1386 2014-11-21 22:48:58 <sipa> there shouldn't be
1387 2014-11-21 22:50:11 <Luke-Jr> hm, it's possible --enable-tests is being used
1388 2014-11-21 22:50:18 <cfields> Luke-Jr: make libbitcoinconsensus.la
1389 2014-11-21 22:50:33 <cfields> afaik, no matter what, ^^ should only build the lib
1390 2014-11-21 22:50:52 <cfields> (for testing, just to verify that you don't need other libs)
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1393 2014-11-21 22:52:06 <sipa> works correctly here
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1396 2014-11-21 22:56:57 <Luke-Jr> cfields: that make works, but it shouldn't be necessary IMO
1397 2014-11-21 22:57:25 <sipa> was it a make check?
1398 2014-11-21 22:57:30 <cfields> Luke-Jr: sure, i'm not saying that by any means. only that i haven't gotten around to making the 'build the lib only' case work yet
1399 2014-11-21 22:57:40 <Luke-Jr> sipa: no, just a normal make
1400 2014-11-21 22:57:41 <cfields> (i assume that's what you're doing now, though?)
1401 2014-11-21 22:57:46 <Luke-Jr> cfields: yes
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1408 2014-11-21 23:06:28 <cfields> Luke-Jr: i believe convenience libs are always built, so you'll need to be sure those are all properly hidden behind if's
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