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44 2014-12-06 00:59:03 <sipa> lechuga_: sure, it's a bitcoin specific thing
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46 2014-12-06 01:00:57 <lechuga_> ok, so if you write a wallet and you use openssl and for whatever reason it's impractical for you to use libsecp256k1 then don't upgrade your txs to v3
47 2014-12-06 01:01:31 <lechuga_> unless you're manually re-encoding with a low S value
48 2014-12-06 01:05:51 <lechuga_> maybe it's worth mentioning openssl's behavior in this regard explicitly in the bip as is done wrt to its permissiability of noncanonical sigs for verification
49 2014-12-06 01:06:07 <lechuga_> if u think so i can make a PR
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81 2014-12-06 01:52:34 <sipa> lechuga_: go ahead
82 2014-12-06 01:52:44 <sipa> some example code about how to do the reencoding would be useful too
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85 2014-12-06 01:55:47 <lechuga_> k
86 2014-12-06 01:57:15 <sipa> bitcoin has had such code until recently, before switching to libsecp256k1
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88 2014-12-06 01:57:22 <cidon> hi how do i install bitcoin-qt client for linux?
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90 2014-12-06 01:58:48 <sipa> #bitcoin please
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118 2014-12-06 02:28:38 <Belxjander> is the torrented bootstrap.dat in any particular format?
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214 2014-12-06 04:48:35 <BlueMatt> how strong are our guarantees that wallet transactions will always be in memory pool?
215 2014-12-06 04:49:15 <BlueMatt> actually, nvm
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310 2014-12-06 07:05:57 <wumpus> Belxjander: the standard serialized block format as used everywhere
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314 2014-12-06 07:07:07 <wumpus> Belxjander: the bootstrap file has been generated with the linarize.py script, which writes them head-to-tail and make sure there are no gaps in between, which sometimes can happen in the blkXXXX.dat files
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413 2014-12-06 09:20:35 <aschildbach> saivann: Hi! What does "custodial" mean? I tried translating that to German but it doesn't make any sense in the context of your guideline proposal.
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423 2014-12-06 09:38:26 <paveljanik> How can I read src/util.cpp:instance_of_cinit;?
424 2014-12-06 09:38:47 <paveljanik> I understand what it should do. But how it is done?
425 2014-12-06 09:39:08 <paveljanik> Is it to me unknown compiler or language feature?
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427 2014-12-06 09:39:55 <paveljanik> looks like it is boostism 8)
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432 2014-12-06 09:44:16 <average> paveljanik: boost heh.. was it that knowing modern C++ equates to knowing Boost ? :)
433 2014-12-06 09:45:46 <paveljanik> hmm, but boost has only is_instance_of_2...
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435 2014-12-06 09:46:49 <paveljanik> but instance_of is in the preprocessor output, so it has to be language/compiler feature not boost one.
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437 2014-12-06 09:47:28 <average> paveljanik: maybe dig deep into the boost docs and source code
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440 2014-12-06 09:58:17 <paveljanik> and even more interesting, the class itself is class CInit ;-)
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443 2014-12-06 10:04:02 <wumpus> paveljanik: it's normal c++ syntax - a class is defined, and an instance of that class is defined in the same statement
444 2014-12-06 10:04:36 <wumpus> normally you'd do class CInit {}; CInit instance_of_cinit; this is just shorthand
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446 2014-12-06 10:04:52 <paveljanik> wumpus: I'm now reading the C++ books I have and there is no word about it 8)
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448 2014-12-06 10:05:16 <paveljanik> ah - there is no ; there 8)))
449 2014-12-06 10:05:18 <wumpus> this existed in C!
450 2014-12-06 10:05:22 <paveljanik> I'm blind.
451 2014-12-06 10:05:56 <paveljanik> the coding staly is a bit new to me. newline between class decl and instance...;
452 2014-12-06 10:05:58 <wumpus> the motivation for this construction is to run some code at startup (before main) and at shutdown (after main)
453 2014-12-06 10:05:59 <paveljanik> style
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455 2014-12-06 10:06:07 <paveljanik> yup, this is clear.
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458 2014-12-06 10:06:27 <paveljanik> the newline there makes this unreadable - at least for me ;-)
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460 2014-12-06 10:06:29 <wumpus> just have patience while reading code, and if you don't at first understand it keep starting at it until you do
461 2014-12-06 10:06:54 <paveljanik> this is why I run the preprocessor 8)
462 2014-12-06 10:06:55 <wumpus> don't start off complaining or being annoyed, it gets in the way of reviewing what the code *does*
463 2014-12-06 10:07:57 <paveljanik> in this case, it was clear what it does, but how it does it was not clear to me - I never write code like
464 2014-12-06 10:07:58 <paveljanik> int
465 2014-12-06 10:07:59 <paveljanik> a;
466 2014-12-06 10:08:01 <paveljanik> 8)
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468 2014-12-06 10:09:08 <paveljanik> Thanks for a free lesson :-)
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478 2014-12-06 10:19:01 <paveljanik> I'd call C blindness ;-)
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700 2014-12-06 16:27:56 <op_null> can anybody confirm or deny what this fool is saying? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=883675.0
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706 2014-12-06 16:31:29 <op_null> as much as I can find, yes that's a problem if people have been relying on that function and leaving their RPC port exposed.
707 2014-12-06 16:31:57 <sipa> well there may be other local users
708 2014-12-06 16:32:16 <sipa> if we weren't concerned about security of the RPC even if non-exposed, it shouldn't a need a password at all
709 2014-12-06 16:32:24 <sipa> if there is one, i guess it needs some security
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713 2014-12-06 16:34:18 <op_null> in other places like the OSX instructions it's bytes being read from /dev/urandom, so that's fine.
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717 2014-12-06 16:37:28 <op_null> (I called him a fool because this is the guy who claimed to have broken ECDSA before and wouldn't shut up about it)
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736 2014-12-06 17:02:26 <gmaxwell> op_null: sure, that was known and fixed two years ago... debian submitted packaging files were brain damaged.
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738 2014-12-06 17:02:46 <gmaxwell> Indpendantly the Fedora package did the same thing, and I caught it before they got anyone to use it.
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741 2014-12-06 17:03:57 <gmaxwell> (the original stupidity there was someone in the debian project, not Matt... he just bulk imported their existing packaging stuff, I believe)
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743 2014-12-06 17:08:19 <HM2> you could always default to unix sockets for the RPC and then do peer verification
744 2014-12-06 17:08:30 <HM2> not sure if that's portable to other unixes
745 2014-12-06 17:08:53 <HM2> that's what databases like postgres default to
746 2014-12-06 17:08:57 <op_null> gmaxwell: right, I didn't realised he linked to the 0.9.1 tag. well that's a whole load more annoying from the guy.
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749 2014-12-06 17:10:38 <gmaxwell> 0.8.1
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751 2014-12-06 17:11:19 <op_null> typo.
752 2014-12-06 17:11:28 <gmaxwell> HM2: yea, I've mentioned domain sockets before... but it's not that portable (e.g. not windows). We already bind only to localhost unless told otherwise.
753 2014-12-06 17:11:47 <gmaxwell> and you must know the rpcpassword... so..
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756 2014-12-06 17:15:13 <HM2> i think once someone has the ability to connect to loopback you're toast anyway
757 2014-12-06 17:15:37 <HM2> i think Linux has peer id for TCP
758 2014-12-06 17:15:49 <HM2> you could probably ifdef that in if you felt like it
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925 2014-12-06 21:50:37 <English-> hey folks, just messing around with the code. Using reindex to go through the blockchain, to look at inputs/outputs for non coinbase transctions. I seem to be having an issue with the client crashing on IsPayToScriptHash. This occurs when an output from one transaction is used as the input for another, within the same block
926 2014-12-06 21:51:05 <English-> ExtractDestination is called first, on the input, which crashes when IsPayToScriptHash is called
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929 2014-12-06 21:51:33 <English-> anyone know why this might be....? :)
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986 2014-12-06 23:35:40 <BlueMatt> testnet coins? mxbQiyEaekyFH858KcKzV4NyAeMDYiRT4v
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